he's been on the list. sort of like moderate muslims trying to reduce the islamic extremism in theirik religion. why did they do this? why does splc make it such a blanket statement for everybody? >> juan: i don't know if it's blanket but i think they provide a public service. i think it'se. one that conservatives are very uptight about because they feel that they are being labeled as hate groups when they have argumentsi about, for example, family research council about attitudes towards transsexuals or gay whatever. they say we are expressing our religious values. the southern poverty law center says they are hateful views. after charlottesville, you get apple and tim cook millions of dollars pouring into southern poverty law center. >> greg: virtue signaling. >> juan: right, i am just saying. lots of people see them as virtuous and don't get into the finances. has thisy standard piece about them having offshore