a lot of the experts are worrying about whether there's a potential emp effect, electromagnetic pulse. it depends on where the devices detonated. would it take out satellites in orbit? could it take out electrical grids and communication systems? land areas where the detonation takes place? this is more serious than just setting off a big firecracker. it shows fundamentally why the president is properly concerned about how irrational this is. wars can start, not simply because people intend they start but from miscalculation. you see a dictatorship like this -- miscalculation should be much on our mind. >> jeanine: earlier, i read that what kim jong un did with regard to that icbm that was headed toward japan, you know, his alignments are not that