build exactly like amazon, they're not helping anything. >> i'm talking about the amount of money they're going after amazon with. it's like oh, we can spend a million to get amazon, i'd say go ahead. >> and it's a million dollars that you're not giving to another business, gary. >> my point is they will return more than a million dollars economically. >> is it worth it in terms of incentives. but i'd say there's nothing wrong states being as competitive as possible. let's make it fire. time word over to heather. >> is it fair? i guess what is worse is that it's not disclosed. a lot of the states have kept it secret. so for the people to decide you and i and gary and hitha, we can't decide if it works out and if it's fair if the states don't disclose what incentives they are giving big corporations like amazon. >> trish: by the way, i don't think i have ever seen gary b. in person. >> it's rare. >> me neither.

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