>> jesse: let's dispense with the lies that this is about being president. it's not. de blasio, beto, it could be a step to a job in a new administration, network, a book on amazon, and a lifetime on msnbc. it is about fame, battling the orange godzilla, guarantees more slobbering coverage that a convention of basset hounds, especially if you keep saying dumb stuff about concentration camps. that turns them into political versions of snail darter's, insignificant and annoying but protected. i include aoc and omar. they garner immediate media mob protection. you can't attack without feeling the wrath of social vigilantes. running for president or anything is a great gig for a tiny fish. it's a movie in which the plot simply develops around you.