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the way on health care op does he take on mihm grags in his first term? >> in his first term? i don't think so. if you think about the things where he can govern from the middle, if you think about the energy bill, it's interesting, jobs point, i think is right. what they learned from health care the left was really the -- there was no public option if you -- wall street reform is where he can govern from the middle. education he can govern from the middle. energy and theory on this move, immigration is the most devicive of those four. it seems to me it's the last one on the list. certainly not this year. possibly not the whole first term. >> i think the chances on immigration are pretty close to zero for this wreer. >> one of the things sarkozy was telling him yesterday at the white house i'm told was you've got to do more. it was very clear from even the public statements that they've got to do more and sarkozy is going to be taking over the g-8 and g-20 next year with american support, and that they have to not only do more regulations and

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