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base. >> 25 seats in swing districts that they never had any thought of winning. those are the one that is are a given. >> let's put this in perspective because we haven't done this for a while. even if barack obama were at 53%, 54%, democrats won big in '06, in '08. the tide came in. democrats are holding seats they have no right ideologically to hold. they would have lost seats anyway. add on top of that in every off-year election, voters are older and whiter. that's a reality. that would move it. i think even in the best-case scenario with barack obama at a 55% approval rating, they'd probably lose 15 seats, 20 seats. you add 15% real unemployment to it -- >> i think they could have lost 30 seats. >> even if a good environment. >> after friday's jobs number, that will be the last big jobs number.

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