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that was not to insult you or to somehow say, but. again, i don't know what your circumstances are in your state. i can only speak to when i was lieutenant governor of maryland how we worked with our state employees. but this is the point -- >> the republican party is attacking labor and these two guys are middle classers who have turned on your party. >> i understand that. >> what does the party have to do to get them back? >> i understand that. there are those who will argue that the republican party is not attacking labor. >> okay. >> that they are responding to -- michael, you want to respond to that? >> let me finish my point. >> absolutely. we tried to sit down in ohio with the senator jones. we tried to sit down with leadership. we went to the speaker. we went to the senate president. no one wanted to sit down and talk to us. nobody showed us this bill until the day it was introduced. we only heard rumors of what might be in it. so mr. steele's, you know, statement about working with

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