joe. >> it's going to be tough, especially with this party, which this fits into your last segment about redistricting. the republican party has become more and more and more a party of its right-wing base. and this guy is out of the -- you know, the republican party of a generation ago. >> yeah. >> jennifer, i don't mean it in any other way, but baseball term is mickey mantle was a switch hitter. the ability to go left or right with batting. not what field to hit to but which arms to use. >> exactly. >> this guy, it seems he could go either way on the same night. >> on the key core issues the republican conservatives care about. i mean, it's not like we're talking about small issues. we're talking about the litmus test issues. >> the core issues. >> the core issues for a man, as you said earlier, who doesn't seem to have a core. i don't see why conservatives would elect him and undo the gains they made in 2010, undo all the gains they've made as they've turned the party to the right. why would they erase all that and go back to a moderate republican? >> good question.