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setting because they've been burned here, as you well know, before. >> and jonathan, how much does he have a ceiling in the state of iowa? you mentioned '08. he spent $10 million, untold amounts of time in the state. you know, and he topped out, i think he got 25 if memory serves me. is 25 basically it and he just hopes that the conservative vote fractures enough that 25 is enough? >> the difference between this time and '08 asç some of his supporters will tell you is in 2008 mike huckabee coalesced the christian conservative vote. now you've got santorum, bachmann, and perry and newt to a certain degree making a claim on some of the same voters. so, yeah, 25% could well do it for romney this time. that wasn't enough four years ago when huckabee had all those supporters here in place. now, there's been some buzz, chris, santorum is making a move here. but there are five days to go

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