you guys have done to be really effective in communicating this, but in brief, connect the dots. you obviously have a receptive audience. >> we learned a lot in the interviews. it was really interviewing surreally sage minds that understand the fraud we're dealing with in the film. >> when wall street realized they could basically win the confidence of the pension system to effectively serve as a collateral for the gambling spree, that's the effect of what happened. >> it seems to me like you're fed two things. you're fed either fear in the form of terrorism or financial terrorism, but then you're also fed hope. either of these are kind of like a delusion game. one of the things we talk about in the film is like student loans, for example. we're calling them the new subprimes. it's very true, students are turning into serfs.