stuff. those people tend to turn into racial and ethnic groups that rush limbaugh maybe doesn't like or feel are too close to the democratic party. let's put it that way. rush limbaugh is doing what rush limbaugh does. it does show limbaugh is so influential. entertainers like him and donald trump are so influential in the republican party that mitt romney can't assert himself as the leader of that party because those guys keep talking. >> steve, i think that's what the point of this is. limbaugh and trump together just constantly go at racial politics. they're constantly playing with it in different kinds of ways. now trump is running around with his new racial shield, his new defense against any such accusations saying, hey, come on, on my game show i picked a black man to be the winner, arcenio hall. so you can't possibly suggest i have any negative racial feelings. >> right. no, i mean, i think there is