make a mistake. but the question is if romney is down a couple of points or down in these polls, does he go for a bigger type of gamble in one of these begaits, sort of a knock out punch, tougher line of attack, those are southeast debates that will hav to be had within the romney campaign. you know, if he's down going into the fall in those debates. >> dave, thank you very much for joining us. up next we're going inside president obama's inner circle. and best selling author and veteran editor james mann tells us what's going on. we're waiting for that news conference by the board of trustees to begin. stay with us here on "the cycle". >> time for your business entrepreneur of the week. pamela baer was doing well but when the work stopped coming she