thirdly you were right in the earlier segment. there is no question that the auto industry is lethal for romney in ohio. that story was told during the smur summer. the bain story was told during the summer and he lives with it. by the way, he didn't write that headline. i'll let detroit go bankrupt. but he adopted it. he doubled down on it in a television interview and said yes, that's exactly what i was saying. >> is there a motivation pitch being made by rove to make people feel good. >> i think nathsly you're going to see some more movement toward the president. i think he's going to win ohio by 4, 5, 6 points. i think the nbc poll out there is probably right. but rove does have this belief that if you say you're going to win, then you're likely to win. the difficulty with that is even he's getting scared. he's done this interview with the "the washington post" where he said the hurricane helped the president, it's hurt romney. he was predicting romney at 279 elect troel votes. >> when you elect a president,

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