he also shared tim's anti-government views and mcveigh has an edge over him intellectually and can manipulate him as well. >> in mid-december of 1994, mcveigh and fortier are traveling from the nichols' farm in michigan to fortier's trailer in arizona. they make a detour to get an up-close look at their target. >> mcveigh and fortier took a drive through oklahoma city and looked over the murrah building and mcveigh said, "that's the one." he liked it because it was uncluttered. >> mcveigh's focus and belief in the mission is becoming laser sharp. but by late winter 1995, nichols and fortier are having doubts. >> you've got to remember, fortier and nichols are more family oriented. they have wives, they have kids. mcveigh, in my opinion, had nothing to live for.