republicans. none. zero. peter king, i mean, if that's the best we've got, then he's not very moderate. what i think there are, however, are a few pragmatists, who understand that the party is going over a cliff, and they're going to get taken with it when it goes. but i'm just astonished by the cowardice of, for example, the former treasury secretaries that i knew and have worked for who didn't say a single solitary word about defaulting on the debt and potentially bringing down the entire world financial system. >> yeah, you were calling out former republican treasury secretaries to say, hey, guys, can anyone maybe come out and say, this is a bad idea, to go through the debt ceiling, at least pierce the bubble of delusion that has been building, that this is going to be fine. and no one did. >> not that i know of. i mean, if they had, i would have trumpeted it to the skies. but, we have quite a few living former republican treasury secretaries, george schultz,
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