about that and not be hi hypocritical about it. the secretary talked about an ifm loan and about europe doing more and i think folks are looking into that. the ifm is there in kiev talking about this and, yes, a lot more money in the west and ukraine wants to lean towards the west. i think everybody wants us to do more. >> but -- go ahead, gene. >> i was going to say, there is an issue in ukraine, though. there are parts of ukraine that lean toward russia and see themselves historically as more a part of russia and filled with russian speakers. the crimea where stalin marched everybody out because he thought they were centrally collaborationists in world war ii with the germans and filled it up with russian speakers and they are very nervous about going the other way with ukraine and that is an issue has to be dealt with and putin will have a lot of populace support in russia if he takes a hard line.

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