policing, well apparently these police officers knew this guy fairly well. he is very frustrated that he's been a target of these officers repeatedly. you hear the guy on the camera at pun point saying eric garner was trying to break up a fight. the police officers there seemed to suggest that they saw him selling what are called loosies, cigarettes. this is something in the underground economy, goes on pretty frequently in new york and as you know in new york the taxes on cigarettes are incredibly high and there's a whole industry around that so there you have those police officers going after him in a way that i think most americans see as excessive. here's a guy who doesn't -- who isn't posing any real immediate harm. >> is that a cop killing a man or is it a policy? >> you know, it's probably a combination of both and this is something that rand paul talked about yesterday when he was
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