in the old days when i was -- took her husband to the train in the morning, picked him up at night, went to new york once in a while, read the papers, knew what was going on. is that woman still out there? she may be in her 60s or 70s now or older, but they're out there voting. >> i always say, they're intrigued by trump. i was up in buck county. these are the kind of women and men who are pro-choice, they're pro-choice moderate. both parties, they're looking maybe for an excuse to vote for trump, but as long as he continues to have incendiary language on women and other issues, there's a bar. >> well, let's get to the heart of this, april and howard. despite days of teasing he might bring up bill clinton's past scandals like sex stuff at the next debate, today trump seemed to rule that out. he told the "new york post" -- there's a reliable source -- i want to win this election on my policies for the future, not on bill clinton's past, jobs, trade, ending illegal immigration, veteran care, and strengthening our military is what i really want to be -- well, that's what he should be talking about! >> that's what the county chair, the republican county chair told him --