it's double chaotic because we have a president who comes out of the bess community, as i did when i went to washington and then you have to adjust your style. you run a business like trump and you become an autocrat and here you have to learn to manage the bureaucracy. >> do you think that's something he has the ability and desire to learn? >> time will tell. >> that's a totally cop-out answer. >> i totally believe he can do it, the question is does he want to do it. we see what happened with president obama. he tried and it didn't work and he went to signing the pen and the automatic resolutions. i don't think that's a way to govern and i hope president trump can adjust. >> i want to get your opinion on