city's confederate statues. it is easier said than done. particularly when we have a please suggestions the confederacy and all that it stood for, terrorizing people solely based on the color of their skin, is nothing to be ashamed of. >> you had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of to them, a very, very important statue. and the renaming of a park from robert e. lee to another name. george washington was a shave owner. was george washington a slave owner? so will george washington now lose his status? are we going to take down, excuse me, are we going to take down statues? how about thomas jefferson? what do you think of thomas jefferson? do you like him? he was a major slave owner. >> joining me now, the member of the national board of directors of the naacp, and by phone,