people he has to regulate. what is driving this? what is your assessment of the man's motive here? >> it doesn't matter if you work at mcdonald's or at the white house, everybody tries to better themselves, but this went well beyond that. i heard early, you bringing this up after secretary price was fired, and that is when we all got together and said enough is enough, we are not going to do anything like that anymore and in my opinion, administrator doubled and tripled down and it got worse. that is when the hundred thousand a month private plane came in. and that is when i knew that was my last couple of days. that i had to be moved to a different agency or quite frankly had to leave. >> so you are saying, ignorance is no excuse after the price