unintentional. in other words, i think he wants to get the message out, but have enough removed so he can have some plausible deniability and say i don't want this to happen. if i wanted to order it to happen, i would. which of course everybody would know would be a near immediate impeachable offense. so he's walking a fine line. but as we are learning with trump and giuliani, there is more of a method to their madness than it meets the eye. and everything that they say comes from somewhere, and the difficulty for us is to try to figure out what is driving them. >> what do you think is driving them? >> it's a little more method than madness. we know where it's coming from. it's coming from both of their screaming raging ids, the fear center of the president. some day when i die if i go to heaven, heaven for me is going to be a poker game where donald trump is at the table with a big stack of chips.