nor facilitating that payment which was to influence the lengs and trying to make it look like something else? is it participating in a cover-up? >> so there is a pathway to prosecution for that. >> that's much more difficult. that's like a books and accounting offense which you will see with public companies where they itemize something in a false way. they don't include the proper expenses. and the michael cohen information somewhat notably lays out in greater detail than necessary the cover-up. if someone pled to finance