A new deep and special Partnership Im now beginning to have a feel a very worrying sense of groundhog day here. Mr speaker we are going to leave the European Union in march two thousand and nine to. Mr speaker in watts on the most crucial negotiations of our countrys recent history we clearly stuck in an impasse delivering on the democratic will of the british people. Does the Prime Minister believe and i come that hes not getting might be setting the bar a bit too love. Also coming up tonight to the us president s call to console a Fallen Soldiers wife and the name that should not have escaped him. If models when hes out here by and. By culture remember his name. We begin the day with a divorce proceeding was going nowhere last week the leaders of all European Union countries minus britain came together and came to the same conclusion but were not there yet its a new leaders told british Prime Minister to resign may that the broad terms of the brakes a divorce must be settled first now simply put britain has to pay its bills before it can close out its tab or rumors and reports have been flying ever since there is even talk serious talk of britain simply leaving the e. U. With no deal no deal would mean no guarantees to access what is and remains britains largest and most important trading partner you guessed it the European Union a german newspaper reported that things are so bad that british Prime Minister theresa may practically begged the European Commission president for help during a dinner last week the European Commission president today denied that the Prime Ministers office has been signed or today the Prime Minister went to parliament with a positive attitude about the next stage of breaks it talks heres part of what she said and what she had to hear. He talked about us making Real Progress but we havent reached a final agreement but its going to happen. I do have a degree of confidence i dont have a degree of confidence that well be able to get to the point of sufficient progress by december off of the floor speech that is a new momentum the florence speech was a step forward and that should be a positive response to the willingness to work on the interim period and there has been a stop placed a momentum now as it happens those arent my words though the words of chancellor merkel the t. V. Show. The swedish Prime Minister the italian Prime Minister the polish Prime Minister and the danish Prime Minister the outcome of crushing out with no deal to become a deregulated tax haven the dream of a powerful faction over benches and their front benches would be a nightmare for peoples jobs and the big stunned. Labours message is different country on. Labors message is that clear our message tonight is trying to get at the truth and to do that im joined here at the big table by David Charter he is the berlin correspondent with the Times Newspaper hes also author of several books on breaks it which i highly recommend and joining us from brussels tonight is georg matis our correspondent who has been covering those talks taking place in brussels gentlemen to both of you welcome but i want to start with a comment that was made by the u. K. s breaks it minister david davis about a worst Case Scenario ending two bricks take a list now whats what weve been doing for over a year now since august of two thousand and sixteen is making preparations for all outcomes now we dont want to no deal but if one comes well be ready for it are ready for it so David Charters are brakes it means brakes it. And now it can also mean a new deal is he for real the thing is brant they cannot be literally no deal because there is as we know billions of pounds worth of trade giving across the borders between the e. U. And Great Britain and it will still flow it wont all be stuck on one side or the other but what no deal refers to is then that trading reverts to the very basic World Trade Organization rules bridge which no one would want i mean its like trading in the wild west right well its like its actually like trading slightly with one arm behind your back because there needs to be there are terrorists sets of levels for countries which dont have very good relations with each other exactly has to go between we have until recently excellent relations with the e. U. And it would be crazy to enter into this World TradingOrganization World of tariffs when the whole mission of the e. U. Was to abolish tariffs and yes. Thats the irony of it looks georg what about you know the situation there in brussels i mean is brussels seriously planning for. This possibility of a no deal in the. I think david here used the right word and that is crazy and that is i think the perspective that brussels has taken all along this the real difference here between a curious amazed position in the position of the twenty seven is they never promised that bracks it would be a success they always said throughout this will be a loose loose situation and there is zero interest to have no deal scenario of course theyre still preparing for it and heres another difference of course its an open secret that the leverage that the u. K. Has is rather small they have of course the Market Access they are an important trading partner as david pointed out about the problem for theresa may and i think it became clear in her speech today is that the no deal scenario really is is more of a strategy because as she said herself without that strategy you know if any deal would be fine for the u. K. Interesting point i want to take a listen to what the European Commission chief john called you said about this new deal option and also about the way the press the german and the British Press have been reporting. British press you have to be a superficial as the British Press is. Going to say that working assumption is look the new deuce you know. I am not in favor of no that i will do it. So gay or younger says he doesnt want to deal ending but if it were to come to that and he does the e. U. Does it have a lot at stake you know you say that its got more leverage here but it cant possibly want to see the u. K. Right now and b. In the wild west of trading in. No absolutely not brand i mean were looking at five hundred billion euros compare that to the bracks a bill of fifty billion euros approximately which wharfs that number will look at five hundred billion euros in trade from europe to the u. K. And so clearly there is huge economic interests at stake but heres something that breaks the tears throughout the campaign for bracks it and even now have underestimated and that is the scenario that the you is also not keen and get in giving britain a better deal than they already have and from a european perspective given all the opt outs and the rebate they have an excellent deal and if the u. E. U. Would give britain a better deal this would be the end of the european of the of the internal market and that is why particularly france and germany are very keen to keep these negotiations tough to do to play hardball and David David Davis he went back to the house and car commons and he said the e. U. And im quoting here is using time pressure to see if they can get more money out of a state do you believe that is that what is happening here i think there is a small elements of that i think they there is a concern that the british side has not yet really. Put all its cards on the table and nail down sufficiently what is going to pay to leave the European Union however the clock really is against britain because its theres a two year period its mandated in the treaties which began in march so it ends in march twenty ninth and that is when britain leaves the European Union that is why the new deal is looming larger because the making such slow progress at just the first phase of the talks which is about as you say the bill and the status of you e. U. States in the National Interest ratings but why dont just pay the bill and have as they used to say in the wild west pay the bill and get the hell out of dodge why not just do the and so that you can move on to those important trade negotiations. Its not quite as simple as that because its reason they. Pressure from a number of backbenchers who really detest the European Union to limit in fact almost to nothing the amounts of extra money that britain is liable for for the e. U. Now and india is to come but they really dont want money to go having promised during the campaign that three hundred fifty Million Pounds a week would go back. Into the debate is not going to happen its unlikely to happen any time soon. But about the next stage where we see these trade talks begin in december as the british Prime Minister is promising and hoping for. Brown lets take a look quick look here at face number one in the key points here and that will be the answer citizen writes i think theresa may has a vested interest to keep the workforce of more than three million citizens so yes i think on Citizen Rights theres theres a lot theres been quite a bit of progress if you look at Northern Ireland i think both sides have acknowledged the status quo is the only way forward and in order to clarify that you will need to talk about the future relationship and finally again i agree the bill. If she has or her way against those who really want out at all costs i think they can settle on some form of a bill i think it will spare the british Prime Minister to put a price tag on it because that will be hard to sell back home but i think we will move on to face number two pretty soon i mean this an optimistic look what do you say david an optimistic because actually has to happen they have to move on at christmas and i will tell you now that i think the hardest of the three is actually going to be on and i really think its very different because of the border because of the border because its its unthinkable for the republic of ireland that there has to end g small border posts along a border with a political razor had to be they were removed and successfully removed as a result of a you membership so thats a really tricky one to solve how do you check goods coming in and out of the venue. Between Northern Ireland or the republic of ireland you think that is actually going to be more of a Sticking Point than the final bill i do because i think you can set out on paper what these figures are on both sides and reach a compromise on the bill its much harder to run a border between an International Trading block and an outside country. With hundreds of little roads crossing it. Which technology alone is unable to do you know thats a very good point well im sure it will give us reason to talk again about the as we said earlier the never ending story David Charter as always thank you and georg marcus on the story for us tonight your brussels. Here thank you as well. Well the United Nations says it is a textbook example of ethnic cleansing hundreds of thousands of row hinge or muslims are facing persecution violence in me and more and fleeing to neighboring bangladesh every day brings more refugees across the border and bangladesh says it needs help to cope. Almost a million rohinton refugees from ian mars rock kind state are now in bangladesh more that have arrived in just the past three months most of the refugees we know are children. Now mondays Donor Conference which was held in geneva brought the total amount raised to help the ranger to about three hundred forty million u. S. Dollars but that is still short of the four hundred thirty million that aid agencies say is needed here is more now on the plight of the work and. Thousands of people still flee me on our every day nearly six hundred thousand rwanda have left for bangladesh in recent weeks almost all of them have experienced great suffering. Not begum wanders through the refugee camp and coxs bazar clearly traumatized the eleven year old tells us what happened in myanmar. My father was murdered by me and marys soldiers thankfully i wasnt there neighbors had hidden me and then they brought me to bangladesh. Where mines are a lot of that. Janet is now searching for her mother she hopes she also made it to bangladesh jannat doesnt even have a tent she sleeps out in the open. More than half of the refugees here are children the relief organizations and the government of bangladesh arent able to support them fully. Everything is in short supply tents food and medicine theres just one hospital in the camp where a handful of doctors work around the clock. When they are on the run the heat and the long track are very hard going for those driven from their homes because most people arrive here in very Poor Condition most local. The most serious cases are treated in the hospital in the provincial capital gong many refugees have been maimed by land mines or carry the scars of Bullet Wounds all of them accuse the myanmar is soldiers and patel ity. We want support for them just like on drugs medical supports and most awfully that initial call me to a good patient the myanmar list of these type of inhuman was me and maher and bangladesh have formed a joint working group to discuss the repatriation route into refugees but very few actually want to return. Which day a un led Donor Conference as we said was held in geneva a call to the International Community for help they were hinge a crisis is just the latest in many flashpoints that demand action and leadership in asia well that is not coming from china at least in the ways that we have come to expect the talk about that im joined tonight by eric gomes from washington he is a policy analyst for defense and Foreign Policy studies at the Cato Institute erikas good to have you on the day you just wrote a piece at cato on International Relations at Chinas Communist Party congress which is taking place and they caught my attention i mean at that party chinas president sounded very bow ready to be in charge of a new superpower but china has said that it will not get involved with me and more and the region for a crisis that is not what we expect to hear from a superpower whenever refugee crisis is unfolding on its back doorstep is. No it isnt and i think that in terms of the Party Congress and like i said in that piece i think in support of remember that when she jinping is at the congress and when the communist party is having it it is primarily directed at internal issues within china especially Economic Development military reform those sorts of things so International Relations doesnt really play heavily in general but i think in terms of xi jinping calling for a greater role for china to play internationally if china wants to come up in the sort of International Order that the United States has. Established then yes you would expect to see it do more so im not sure if this is just a matter of xi jinping sort of focusing his efforts or the Chinese Government in general focusing their efforts on internal issues during the Party Congress and well see more action later but in terms of Global Leadership this is the sort of thing that most countries have come to expect and its something that china has had a lot of trouble actually doing i want to play a segment of the. Speech at the Party Congress take a listen. China will upon the bodies of Peace Development cooperation and we progress. To its Foreign Policy of safeguarding peace and promoting common development. It seeks to develop friendly cooperation on the basis of the five principles of peaceful coexistence and to establish a new type of International Relations of Mutual Respect fanous and justice. He says there are a new type of International Relations what does he mean there is there is a code for something that we should understand. I think its just a sort of blanket term for saying that there is a new maybe not rule maker is the right word but saying that with the rise of china there is a country that will behave on the International Sphere in a manner that is different from how past hedge ammans have behaved. But you know past great powers have behaved and this is where the Rohingya Crisis i think throws two issues of chinas rise into stark contrast on the one hand you have china saying that it wants to play a greater leadership role and it wants to have a sort of new type of great power relations but on the other hand. When it comes to doing things like interfering in other countrys internal Affairs China has historically at least in their propaganda been very consistent out saying no we do not interfere in another countrys affairs so you have this sort of contrast where china says it wants to play a more active role but then by doing so but then it also cant get involved in other countrys internal affairs if it cares about its own internal propaganda so that it sort of exists in tension one or two with with shes an examining so bold in the speech last week how much of this is just sheer opportunism on the part of china considering that the u. S. Under President Trump appears to be pulling back from so many of its leadership positions around the world. I think there isnt aspect of opportunism but its also a sort of long running theme i think in in Chinese Development especially since. Its using especially since two thousand and as and also especially since two thousand and eight when the financial crisis sort of showed the weakness of western liberal economic order so i think there is an element of opportunism but its also important to recognize that this is something that goes back quite some time and even before she jinping himself. Were talking about new super powers rising a declining what do you make of the scandal surrounding the u. S. Soldiers killed in. The u. S. Congress it seems knew very little about the soldiers even being there some call this Mission Creep youve got some people saying its an example of congress being out to lunch is this the opposite of what we see with china are we seeing here a superpower that overextended so much so that it doesnt even report what its doing to congress. Well i think a lot of a lot of what the u. S. Does in terms of special forces soldiers stationed around the world is as is classified and im sure there are members of congress who are aware of the activities but not broadly speaking in terms of you know how the u. S. And china go about their business on the world stage china is actually increasing its overseas basing presence most only most notably with djibouti and there is some discussion about the port water pakistan being having a heavier chinese presence there as well and i think its something that when you know when the United States and people in the in the west sort of worry about chinese growing interest its important to remember that you know the United States has a lot of global interests and just because you have the ability to have sort of global reach doesnt mean that you will exercise that power wisely it doesnt mean that getting involved everywhere is a good idea and it can rapidly increase the problems you have to deal with in addition to maybe bring some benefits so as china sort of finds its footing and becomes a little more active in Foreign Affairs i dont think its all going to be good for them i think theyre going to have to run into the same sorts of problems that the United States has faced as it has tried to have a global reach and in terms of you know chinas ability to control events in its near abroad that might be a relatively good thing for the United States of chinas distracted elsewhere than maybe it cant make more trouble in the South China Sea or in the Taiwan Strait all right as with the Cato Institute is why she didnt appreciate your insights that you for being on the day to not. Well the widow of a soldier killed in newsier earlier this month has criticized President Trump for the condolence call that she received from him my you should johnson told a. B. C. News that trump could not remember her husbands name David Johnson now johnson was one of four u. S. Soldiers killed in these air while fighting islam ist extreme. I was very angry at the tone of his voice and how he said he couldnt remember my holes when they only way he remember my husband made because he told me he had my hoods reporting for an evening and thats when he actually thing led a. Hurry him family on trying to remain in law is with me. And that will hurt me the most if my husband is out here fi into our country and he made his life for our country why cant you remember his name. And that will make me a fan cry even more because my head was awesome so i would say. Well u. S. President drum it was quick to respond and cast doubt on the version of events related there by my you should johnson in a tweet fired off shortly after that interview aired trump claimed he quote had a very respectful conversation with the widow of sergeant David Johnson insisting that he quote spoke his name from the beginning without hesitation meanwhile political commentators are pleading with the president to stop the tragedy from becoming a complete train wreck ana navarro tweeting sergeant johnsons widow mother and congresswoman who all this into the call disagree if trump had any damn sense he just draw this former chief white house ethics lawyer richard painter tweeting some advice he is president her husband is dead just say im sorry its a hard call the make and i messed up and let it go. Well the day is nearly done the conversation of course continues online youll find us on twitter either at u. W. News or you can write directly to me a print off t. V. 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