Reject it while the party to offer. The way welcomes. Thank you very much for inviting. You said the only way to resolve antagonism between china and 2 i one is to talk to love. To know your lover china that is threatening taiwan both verbal and militarily and holding a sword over your head continually how do you love what world thats your impression actually if you talk to some chinese in Mainland China as long as you dont support separation from china they are not treat you like that they are not attack you also dont say the wrong thing other was right and you know you are not realize that you think thats a normal way to live the power across 180 kilometers of the straits as to you if you say the wrong thing you finished was the only thing i dont think its that serious you have there is no reason to keep saying i think you have to talk to each other if you try to visit china so call the china we call the mainland ok we are trying one are mainland we together is a china is a one china war if you think the threats from china is so serious as one why do you european people all the people around the world all the members in the e. U. And try to work with china try to have dialogue with china try to solve problems its true that you know that as well as i do its a human rights record is there working history we can do that too apart from trade what exactly it is democratic time i was having common these days with one Party Communist china you have free elections yes you will change your party in power they dont you have independent courts they know you have a free press they dont you can speak out against abuses of power and they cant what on earth have you got in common with Mainland China these days i think we should emphasize differences. Go there work with them be their friends be their brothers and change instead of being their enemies go there walk with them you can change like what are you are doing with them now what would you do a country about human rights what on earth in china that you can change them what on earth is the evidence what you see the trade Surplus China with rights you see a lot of changes in hong kong recently why china is not using force to press down be demonstration why the compromise why because they seek opportunity to prove that they can change they came pruitt will come on to hong kong a little later i want to go into some detail of that but the serious issue is the military pressure from china isnt even 2 years ago your Governments National defense report highlighted concerns that Chinese Military activity near taiwan posed an enormous threat to security in the taiwan straits now just a few days ago you had washington saying that china stepped up its pressure in the largest increase in military activity around taiwan for 20 years and you think thats meaningless why us say china is going to interfere in a lecture in tell you one sole u. S. Is coming here to interfere in taiwan is a lecture you happy with these bullying turned out because thats what they are im not happy about bullying thing but im not what i was doing im happy about you know we can do business with each other we can ask of china to make changes we are the only people on earth believe that we can make that happen we can make china a peaceful country where you look back to history who are the invaders who are the invaders japan right who participated the wars in asia. If you want to live in history you want to live in the now i want you little universe in modern humans i assure people i want to i want to make history clear who are the invaders ok if you want to be someones enemy then they will be your enemy if you want to be someones friend always following your ideas because you have friends if only. Let me tell you one thing one thing why us is selling our 16 to taiwan instead of 35 and the us is selling f. 35 to korea to japan to singapore to other countries why the United States gave the early island to to japan instead of taiwan it was our territory why the us is doing that to taiwan this show can teach children Vice President of the Taiwan Foundation for democracy said last month to move on to more taiwanese feel their nation is now on the existential threat and you seem to be out of touch with that feeling totally you know feeling very fluid the reality i feel the reality i know how to deal with the chinese in mainland. I know whats the facts i know you have you have to give your view from your home have to deal with them as a politician i tried to deal with them when i was the mayor here the the big city mayor i work with the city in one gene i try to communicate with them i try to work with them try to ameliorate carbon emission Environmental Issues education issues will work with them about a dozen matic front where they continue to squeeze you where they ramp up the pressure where they try to persuade countries to drop their recognition diplomatic recognition of you did that you not curious that china didnt remember this you lost in 1000000028 teams from the right to chinese russia you know about the intersection using an engine thankyou you recognize china you dont recognize the the republic of china you will recognize me because if im going to be about republicans we were talking about china is taiwan we were their representative of china before 971 and the un i talk. About in history and saying to them there are 6 you know im telling the fact we consist here that the are we seeing this is here and thats what you called the taiwan but you never knew or could not is the hour see here you recognize the p. R. C. Right what in the e. U. When i read an article recently we here are 21 china policy as regards to taiwan and hong kong and ice i think you should be defined like this we are here to one china policy as regards to mainland taiwan hong kong and macau mr. Youre not talking about china that continues to thwart taiwans participation International Organizations like the World Health Organization and interpol for instance you want to be members of those organisms want to sign up and i know youre here to help us is trying to stop it why you agree. As you know being asked why do you never criticize your maybe i just have my skates and everybody could use a gun why no no men trying to do it in their outfit i didnt say that weve read a lot of i have the luxury of science to express my opinion about china as no toys are in a set up this is wrong not theirs i have to tell you i have here one more thing the un the e. U. Even germany you recognize the p. R. C. You dont recognize the scene and i truly hope one day you recognize the our scene you know how to participate doubly h. O. Ok i and you see china is not on the block about we have a blockade of the us they should try to talk we were talking as what we should try to realize results i didn t. If you see such Great Results you see that can t. Did that can t. Try to talk to Mainland China time they try to sound outright yet they try to do let us put is a magic show especially today h. O. And i see a or mr churchill beijing is clearly losing patience with taiwan and while you dream of some vague love in between taipei and the Mainland China is Crystal Clear what it wants from you and thats really unification and it refuses to rule out the use of force to get it doesnt it and you live with that and you normalize that on a daily basis ok in our consciousness same to the not you call them dancing you called it because it was the constitution ok there is only one china policy. And that includes mainland taiwan hong kong and michael thats in our constitution we should buy and buy our countrys Constitutional Rights youre being told by xi jinping as you were in january unification is an inevitable requirement for the great rejuvenation of the Chinese People he said taiwan should accept that it must and will be reunited with china whatever talks youve been having with china hasnt got them out of the vat idea and how many people in taiwan want that the unification of under 3 percent to or about going to turn worrying about what the right thing but you dont know youve already got people up i think but dont worry about their threatening ver words why not just stand up to those threatening words what we stand up to you well it will stand up to that but in our research the reality man dr brown must and world heavy united with john have you got them out to me have you tried to take a lot of our constitution have you tried to take a look of loss this issue as long as what china is now saying are laws and in our constitution we won a peaceful relationship we want to unification. The people who go through the people dont thats in our law and the constitution people tell you that it doesnt matter what their country why they want and try to amend the constitution thats your perception our people here want to have a peaceful relationship with the mainland and we want to make money we want to do business together we want to have a democracy in the future in Mainland China but not fighting against them not taking down s. And anomie trying to be their friends and a tragic change them by participation as like what you do elsewhere do you know thats working so well the reality is mr joe that beijings push on unification puts your party the kuomintang into a very difficult position doesnt it your veteran china expert suchi actually said that he said she jinping took away all the space for ambiguity and that puts us the kuomintang in a very difficult situation that difficulty being that your party is being told get on with this china and you dont have a policy of standing up to it do you do have a policy. I declared that i claim that i want to unify china i want to unify under taiwan less chance 23000000 people want taiwan against the courage it is made that is my partner see i did see one percent is that its fantasy you have to remember that all 3 not happen. In the world you have to understand the history in the world whats happening now unification separation yes yes thats the process unification separation separation unification. Thats a track of the history but there is one thing very important not i also learned wrongs never mind the track of westerly track of the story is just words theres a track of you know you just know its the fact the question is what people want to know human nature is that the vast majority of your population do me a favor wants unification to me i know have you ever stood up to china i stand out of you ever so you go to them i stand up for the republic of china have you ever said no to beijing yes for many times what on human rights issues through yes really yes you can do a good nights active was. Actually x. And they happened so it was 30 years ago id be told then i was i had 2 years whenever i went to china i told dont you need to introduce democracy to your society or theyre listening you know the u. S. Attorney so once you the 1st of them was cracked down in 25 years taking place on human rights activists Human Rights Watch reported last year human rights defenders continue to enjoy arbitrary detention imprisonment and in force disappears and you say nothing about that. Have you heard i said anything about that i get just now i even told them i even told them because you dont know my history building with them i have the many dialogues with them i told them you have to improve thats human rights thats International Standards of treating your people i told them to ok i have to tell you one thing if you dont participate if you dont join them if you dont treat them like they can improve their nothing good is going to happen and what im blind here its a fine line between that and the Peace Movement isnt it yes its a very flexible fine line its very ambiguous but you have to do that from your heart. People know that but never spoken up for the tiny taiwanese democracy activists leaving che its more than living chaits more than 2 years since he was forcibly disappeared you havent heard of him believe me chair its more than 2 years since he was forcibly disappeared by police in chinas province and charges subversion of state power hes a citizen of taiwan you dont talk about you dont even know hes let me know hes in terrible conditions human Rights Groups around the world have been campaigning for his release you know one of our governor sentenced to 5 years in jail cant get phone calls cant get letters 4 times his wife was prevented from from going to china to visit. And you know his rights are being around 20 years ago i tried to talk to chinese communists to release an espionage suspects a lady who just got married and he was released recently i talked to our government. Went down was the ruling party and they didnt step in they didnt try to rescue her she was sentenced to death however in jail for 20 years in just a year ago she was released probably just at the in this year she was released and look what the people here have done to help human rights you know we should try to Work Together and we should try to talk to them and what the government here do lets talk about hong kong again you mentioned earlier the interview and you were you were praising china that they have shown restraint with the demonstrations not praising them for that who started this in the 1st place ok thats the law right. For what the demonstrators will tell you that it was a constant erosion of their freedoms under the one country 2 systems formula forced them on to the streets anywhere the denial of universal suffrage the kidnapping of booksellers the banning of a Political Party the prevention of elected Legislative Council is taking their seats because they didnt like the politics that constant erosion of freedom under the one country 2 systems thats the system that she is offering you one country 2 ministers i suggest you take a look whats been happening here in taiwan in the road see the ruling party p. P. P. Who claimed they would protect human rights there was a minority you know i have to say i was embarrassing thing happening here thats the reason why its so embarrassing because our ruling party is trying to marshal law here doing something even worse and there is one lawyer related to National Security you know thats what they are doing here our ruling party here into what of course we criticise the Hong Kong Government especially the council tried to establish a law which your hong kong residents disagree and it doesnt trust sold that leader you believe is heritage of that do you the chief executive you blame the kerry lamb the chief exec shes beijings appointee of russian history she is to be our pointy even socalled elected by some hong kong representation. Why hasnt she was more ask people as from people is there democracy is serious system as can compete let me come back to the question and this is the one thing is important they were to draw. The last draft right theyve suspended this is it is not they still there it said theyve said its dead they said they would drop because they did something wrong in the meat i think theres something proceeding with it but not now thats thats whats happening before now they say they would drop youre satisfied its over now im not satisfied about that im worried about whats happening here in taiwan and the one country 2 systems formula that she jinping has offered to taiwan we dont read the that or thats not going to happen thats not going to happen then you mean hong kong is not going to have different systems from china system this is the last thing i think the system what should exist because thats the the window shop for chinese they should to show that improvement of democracy to the world hong kong system is a joke isnt if they try to violate that its going to embarrass them just to show isnt a lesson that you should take away from hong kong is that china doesnt live up to its promises of democracy isnt that the lesson i think and i think talking and one thing i love china i dont live up to the note on this i have to think we should try to change them we should try to improve them you should 1st say no to them what how do you know i didnt say no to them. Doing that ive been doing that for so many years every time i visited china i talked to them. I say improve your system especially a democratic system and they step up their interference with well. Look at the propaganda war thats being waged against taiwan a study by the university of gothenburg in sweden said youre one of chinas major targets for spreading disinformation happy about direct interference well i think. We all see socalled taiwan should be more more opened to outside world especially western society youre avoiding we question are doing is this Information Campaign here while china is trying to do that but other countries also try to do that too i think we should take active actions in solving their problems well theyre open society but not open enough to the outside world or people of how many English Speaking channels here so take a look at how many how much International Media existing here in taiwan were not exposed enough to the outside world however the politicians here tried to close the door. Trying to close you know we are one we. Know should we or you know we we emphasize local lies ations so much instead of internationalization thats what you dont want to see more going on here is who do you know when you really miss ourself 1st you dont want to admit it now we want to improve ourselves too we also want to improve china remember i want to take active active process active approach to china to make china change this idea that you can make sure the cheeriness which frankly is pretty much of a long shot why should people vote for you a purty. Well if youre selling fantasies like this one no were not selling fantasy. Here realistic its a difficult competition. Why dont you try to realize what p. P. P. Can do p. V. P. Is the one who cant see lois the really action why dont you take a look what were fighting for where fighting for true democracy here and b. B. C. Ruling democracy while trying to build a peaceful relationship with china with the mainland were trying to create a Better Society here were trying to introduce your systems your values here to taiwan were trying so hard to do that if we want to come dance of people here that can keep this country perfectly well then we have to respect the democracy we have to open our society to the outside world we have to be honest to our people the bad one in our ruling party is cheating our people well the bad news for you is that a plurality of taiwanese 45 percent dont identify with your party or the ruling d. P. P. Didnt take a look take a look at youre right youre right they dont trust the parties here yeah they dont trust you and they dont trust them they dont trust our party youre not saying anything that they think is relevant what i believe theyre what theyre saying is relevance we realise the fact already people dont trust the parties here people dont trust the politicians here which is why i would think i trust you i mean you you said in the 2nd probably debate were going to have some problem or do you claim that the number of time when these people below the poverty line was believed to be around 3200000. Which is suppressed simply not true which is simply not true its true and the research i know essentially says taiwan proportionally contains fewer People Living in poverty than any other country and i know now mostly when i think no time no i mean i met them on less than 2 years on theres an interest in to me patient sleep you know when i was the me here in tempe county. They are around one quarter of the students can afford their lunch there is one quarter if you times that proportion to the total population here in taiwan and tell me in fact and im lying thats very little im telling you the fact thats not the facts thats the fact im telling you the fact why dont you listen almost no time when he is live on less than 1. 00 us dollars a day thats noble prodigy lad that is that really awful poverty thats growing all over the nation of poverty is different really my definition relative to other thats enough not know who wrote yes relative to that in my yeah thats my definition and ubiquitous is my donation you live in so i do tell you if any student cannot afford their lunch then hes and his family is living in poverty thats my definition if it all goes wrong here in taiwan and she jinping loses patience and somebody says something they shouldnt say. And china looks as though its moving towards an invasion would you fight for taiwan. Or not where do your loyalties lie mr cho loyal to our country the republic of china well loyal to our constitution you would you fight your show you know yes yes yes if they violate our constitution to preserve and protect our people and defend our people ill fight against china so she way youre going to have your own comfort zone thank you. Thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks. Sure of. What unites. What divides. The money and the driving force. What binds the continent together. The answers and stories of plunging the. Spotlight on people. 30 minutes on d w. Style plus fun mistake of. Bespeaks. Peter lane span one of the worlds most famous fashion photographer. Nobody car train women quite spy cam. In memory of peter earnest battles of this is over. 35 minutes on d w. Where is home. With your family scattered across the globe. Sun. Turning to the roots government of the. 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