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Political parties by people with money to get 30 dinners to people in the cafes who do nothing could be used to do the Campaign Work then they fire them. Heading towards or dance we have no work prospects when are we going to make is in our lives but its good to get the job. Also coming up tonight in the picture of modern day politics in the u. K. Apparently that was why a painting by the artist banksy with the title devolved Parliament Just sold for a record 11000000 euros. But really what hes pointing to here is the regression all of this the oldest parliamentary democracy in the world into tribalistic animalistic behavior the sorts that weve seen board cost and televisions across the world of the last months and weeks. As you our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with voters and the choices they are about to make in tunisia on sunday voters in the north african country go to the polls to elect a new parliament if their recent president ial election is any indicator we can expect 2 outcomes a disaster for established parties and victory for populace who are promising everything except consensus just a few weeks ago in the 1st round of voting in the president ial election 2 winners emerged a media magnate serving time in prison for tax evasion and a very conservative constitutional lawyer who says he has never voted to outsiders with no experience in governing one of them will become tunisias new president in the final round of voting next week now put all of this into the context of recent history it was just 8 years ago when the arab spring began in tunisia an uprising which may have wilted but is still influencing political life across the middle east in tunisia it took root which is why when we talk about the promise of democracy in the region we are talking about to nisha but voter turnout on sunday its expected to be look how much of a democratic promise is left in tunisia we begin tonight with this report. This is not your typical Political Campaign here in the tunisian town of with a selfproclaimed antiparty is hoping to get attention with punch backs for beating corruption and symbolic yellow cards against the system i used to see started out organizing cultural events before moving into politics now the goal is very. Yes they want to Enter Parliament after october 6th. Sense i suppose you are going to live up with such tunisians in a different way we wanted to approach tunisians with culture we wanted to do activities where there was culture and joy for tunisians and see who express themselves give their opinion and make proposals that despite being the only country to emerge as a democracy from the arab spring tunisia still suffers from corruption and the stagnating economy making many disillusioned with politics amongst this apathy age 20 sees an opportunity the party is hoping its approach will win over young people frustrated with the countrys political elite. There that is we i dont see asked more than 400000 tunisians was there are problems and solutions are just did you have summarized them in 12 measures a lot of these 12 measures have been approved by more than 1000000 tunisia from our Campaign Promises are we will not accept the privileges granted to members of parliament and we will immediately abandon our political immunity but lemony. For some young people the only opportunity they see in politics is the money they can make during the campaign season. In a poverty stricken to a suburb the unemployed know more about how much a candidate will pay to have campaign leaflets distributed than the party manifesto. You know. Not what we should all of the Political Parties by people with money during the election campaigns they give about 10 years to people who sit in cafes doing nothing but they use them to do their Campaign Work and then they fired and when they become president s ministers or whatever thats when they send us back to misery to let my share to kill is good because it was that bad man that could let people dont think about the future they only look at today and tomorrow but how do you want them to think about the future when they have nothing if they make enough money to eat to live and feed their children its a good otherwise they have no money for anything else where do you see the future years. How this disillusionment will play out in the election and whether any approach works only become clear once the polls close. And for more going on im joined from washington by sarah she is with the Carnegie Endowment for world peace is middle east program which she has a focus on the news is there is good to have you on the program lets look at the numbers turn out for the 1st round of the president ial election in tunisia was not very high and its expected to be low on sunday for the parliamentary election after all the unrest that we have seen in the country recently are we now looking at a case of political apathy absolutely weve seen the turnout decrease from the 2014 elections to meanest of all actions and 2018 and now to this people are angry theyre frustrated theyre not happy with any of the parties weve definitely seen a big increase in apathy particularly amongst the traditional parties and what are you expecting from sundays parliamentary election are we going to have a result that gives this in asian people a fragmented parliament. I think so i think the most important thing to watch is how the independents fare there are not a cohesive bloc but i think we will see that the independents will probably do better than any of the individual parties so what youre likely to see is that the party that gets the most votes and therefore is expected to form the government may not have much of a mandate theres going to be a lot of horse trading a lot of interesting going back and forth between the independents to see if they will actually want to be in the government or remain in the opposition and between the parties themselves of whether or not they can cobble together a government thats able to actually pass needed reforms its interesting what you say there because its in the news it is like what were seeing here in europe in across the west a year where the Political Parties seem to have less importance and the candidates seem to have more importance on the election day if parliament is fragmented and if its unable to find consensus will that open the door for the new president to grab more authority would that blow wolf in the balance of power in tunisia. It will be difficult for the president to try to grab more powers because there are pretty clear differences in power among the constitution the president is the head of state he or she has control over the Foreign Affairs Sector National security and defense theyre not really supposed to be involved in Domestic Affairs so most likely the president would have a hard time actually trying to grab some other powers that said i do think were going to see a government it looks very different from the past the parliament is not going to be likely this consensus model that weve seen but in my mind thats actually good for tunisia as a valving and maturing as a democracy i dont think it would hurt it to have a real opposition versus another party in power and actually have these parties have to compete figure out what their message is try to appeal better to voters and to constituents to try to actually get things done you see in the valving democracy lets look at the final candidates for president do your weve got a media magnate you were sitting in prison for tax evasion. You conservative attorney who says that he has never cast a vote in his life read this is not the picture of the democracy is it. No but unfortunately the picture of what were seeing globally around democracies around the world it was a little bit surprising that none of the candidates from that were even at all connected to the system we had a candidate running who was the defense minister at the time the Prime Minister at the time they did ok they didnt do very well not well enough to advance to the 2nd round what we saw again is this a global trend of people who are outside of the political norms people who dont represent traditional parties one of the president ial candidates has no party and didnt campaign thats really unique the other one is in jail thats also really unique so what weve seen is that again theres a global trend where people are not happy with traditional formal parties and politics thats again in parliament why were seeing the independents likely to do well and this coalition who is really a Civil Society group theyre not a Political Party theyre a coalition of Civil Society activists soon they will probably do quite well as well because of that. You know its fascinated the developments that were seeing in its in these of sara yorkies with the kearney and delman for world peace is here we appreciate your time in your insights ahead of the election this week and thank you. I do know that down the line. I know the lawyers think theyve never seen anything so odd theyve never seen anything so i just ive been president now for almost 3 years and ive been going through this for almost 3 years its almost become like a part of my day the way this knowing is theyve taken away all right so if they 1st see it and you know theyll just get their people theyre all in line because even though many of us dont want to vote they have no choice that follow their leadership. Would get it finished and it would get away with the republicans been very unified this is the greatest which. In the history of our god. He was president dont trump today told reporters that democrats do have enough votes to impeach him but he added if he does stand trial he will win thanks to that unity among republicans in the u. S. Senate republicans control the senate which is where an impeachment trial must be hilda cording to the u. S. Constitution trumps latest comments they come as Congress Pushes forward with hearings aimed at the terminal whether or not the president abused his power by using u. S. Military aid to coerce the ukrainian president will demand zelinsky to dig up political dirt against joe biden and bidens son hunter overnight members of congress released Text Messages which show how the state department coordinated with zilinskas office to arrange a summit between him and trump. In one of the texts and aide to ukrainian president selenski received the following message from the former u. S. Special envoy to ukraine kurt volker now that text reads like this volker writes good lunch thanks heard from the white house assuming president zs alinsky convinces trump that he will investigate and get to the bottom of what happened in 2016 we will nail down a date for your visit to washington and in another exchange we see diplomats obviously worried in a warmed about what is happening u. S. Diplomat bill taylor sent a text to the u. S. Ambassador to the European Union gordon zhan bland at the start of september he writes are we now saying that Security Assistance and a white house meeting are conditioned on investigation son meant to be flies not yes not no but rather call me in the Text Messages tell us a lot to talk about that and more im joined now by koby it can wittes political reporter with the Washington Post koby is taking a little break from writing the post live feed on this impeachment story to speak with us we appreciate that koby bookham to the day let me ask you about these Text Messages are they being seen as the smoking gun here are they evidence of that quid pro quo the president is denying. So if you just read the Text Messages that we got overnight they look pretty explicit i mean you read them there on air and it sounds like what the trumpet federals were saying is were going to have a meeting we will set up a meeting between your president and our president if you are president will launch the investigations that our president wants i mean i think get more quid pro quo than that whether or not its the smoking gun the democrats are looking for obviously remains to be seen theres going to be a lot more digging and theyre just Getting Started ukraines new top prosecutors said today that he is not aware of any evidence of wrongdoing by joe bidens son hunter and reporters asked him if he has been contacted by any foreign attorneys take a listen to how we are doing is a quote of the new foreign or domestic politicians officials or other people who they told me and tried to influence my decisions on any criminal proceedings. But it was a. Start so be the new ukrainian prosecutor clear message there hes been on the job since the end of august after that phone call between trump and selenski so how important or his comments today about bidens son and how important is it that he says he hasnt been contacted by any foreign attorneys. Right so you make one point which is that he came on the job you know very recently and so a lot of these conversations were going on earlier in the summer or last spring so that it isnt the fact that he has not been contacted by any for any foreign attorneys like Rudy Giuliani who is president in terms of personal attorney here. Doesnt tell us much the fact that hes saying that theres been no evidence of hunter by and give anything robin might take a little wind out of President Trump sails now one thing that a top prosecutor it also said though is that hes going to do an audit of the investigation into the Ukrainian Company where hunter biden sat on the board and so we dont know if he would have done that audit anyway but its pretty clear that he would you know publicly announce this audit it seems like you publicly announce that so that it knows its happening yesterday we heard the president calling on chilling to investigate the bardens as well. How great is that i mean he did it in public for all the world to see and hear right and he did it for the white house lawn so you have the president and states standing on the white house lawn. Telling china to help me get dirt on my possible political opponent he did the thing in public that the house isnt it and watching a piece of an inquiry on so its pretty grave on its face you have handful of republicans coming out and noting that theyre troubled by that still not going far enough asking for an impeachment inquiry but it is troubling it will certainly be added to the list of things that the democrats have when they launched this probe there were reports that the republicans or trying to require a vote by the entire health of representatives to basically give permission for the start of an impeachment probe are they going to succeed it is then turning to vote is that required by law or by the constitution its not required by house rules or by the constitution and as Speaker Pelosi has said that she is not required to hold a vote as she could if she wanted to but she can also just give her committee as authority to start this investigation which is what she did its a little bit of a political power play here that the republicans want a vote held because they want to put some of the democrats that are going to face a tough reelection in 2020 on record voting for an impeachment inquiry there so about 10 democrats who won in districts where trump had won who have not come out for an impeachment inquiry because it wouldnt play well among their constituents and so thats why the republicans really want this vote they want to put those democrats on the record. Coby it go its a political reporter with the Washington Post so we appreciate you taking the time to talk with this i know its a busy time right now in washington we appreciate it thank you here. Thanks for having me. Or i want to take a trip to the north persisted quince home to some of the richest marine life on earth where its become the worlds biggest rubbish dump after decades of pollution now a floating landfill known as the Great Pacific garbage patch it stretches about 1. 00 take a look at that 1000000 square kilometers and that is about what 3 times the size of france and its estimated to contain at least 1. 8 to mute the number right 1. 8 trillion pieces of plastic but now for the 1st time ever we might be seeing a breakthrough in the cleanup of this mess a team of dutch scientists says that theyre ambitious effort to remove plastic from the ocean has achieved a milestone. All right this is a good time to talk trash to do that con edison is here with me to do a deep dive into what theyre calling a really cheap meant to i mean theyre calling this actually the largest clean up in history thats what they wanted to be the project is called the Ocean Cleanup it was started 7 years ago by this gentleman here is name is boy in slots hes only 25 years old by the way his Team Announced this week after those 7 years that finally they are now the 1st so successfully remove plastic from that Great Pacific garbage patch its not easy though heres just some of what that team pulled out of the water i mean you can see all kinds of transits stuff small bits large pieces there also quite a lot of fishing nets even car tires in there and then those smaller pieces the micro plastics that fish and other animals mistake for food right the device looks kind of simple. Its actually very complicated its 600 metres long so 6 football fields it floats on top of the ocean then uses the movement of the water as a collect in filter out plastic its sent his location to a ship then when the plastic is ready to be picked up and it works below the surface 2 you can see here extending about 3 metres down and it allows then for fish to swim underneath this milestone as part of a long road a slab came up with this when he was just 19 years old hes gone through multiple different variations of the project multiple failures test designs this is a small 1st step but theyre calling it a big one it almost seems like just a drop in the ocean if you know we have i mean it is a little bit about just the scope of the challenge of trying to clean up the oceans i mean we saw how big the Great Pacific garbage patch is the problem is thats only one of them out there theres 4 other ones around the worlds oceans it is just going to take a lot of work in the problem is its only getting worse i mean were producing more plastic than ever Plastic Waste is expected to quadruple over the next 3 decades by the year 2050 theyre predicting that by weight therell be more plastic than fish in the oceans and just crazy eventually all that plastic of course it makes it into the food chain its eaten by fish by birds is even in my whales you see these things beached whales and theyre taking plastic out of their stomachs you know it also makes it into humans we eat thousands of bits of plastic every year without even realising it the biggest problem area brand is asia china indonesia the philippines thailand and vietnam they generate more Ocean Plastic than the rest of the world combined so thats the hotspot ok so that is all the bad news when you put all that together where are the chances that a project like this will actually be able to even put a dent into the problem well the goal of the project is to clean up 90 percent of that pacific plastic patch by the year 2040 of course weve seen after 7 years millions of dollars this is the result. Just that just a small load of plastic some experts say you know those resources should be used for preventing more plastic from coming into the oceans in the 1st place others are saying the project actually has some unintended consequences its harvesting along with that plastic sea life thats thats floating on top of the ocean linked in and things like jellyfish and this is some of that criticism thats coming from scientists after this announcement so rebecca helm she specializes in jellyfish shes a science as she says earlier this year are born that the ocean clean up would catch and kill Floating Marine life this week they announced theyre collecting plastic in the picture shows hundreds of floating animals traps along with plastic we need to talk about this you can see in this picture so she took the publicity photo and she sort of what she says are many of these kind of Small Creatures jellyfish things like that theyre crucial to the food chain so its a problem if if this machine is sweeping up animals as well i mean clearly its a big complicated problem theres no easy solution here scientists still debating the right way to do it and whether its even doable at all well at least. For trying hes trying. This always carol thank you for. Was there something about a Prime Minister who would rather die in a ditch british Prime Minister Boris Johnson he has confirmed that he will seek an extension to the october 31st briggs it deadline if no withdrawal deal with the European Union is reached by mid october thats right thats according to a document presented to scotlands court of session they indicate the jobs and intends to comply with all the parliament passed this month that requires the Prime Minister to ask the e. U. For a postponement if the deal is in place by october 19th so. And ireland has given a lukewarm welcome to Prime Minister johnsons proposals intended to deal with problems over the British Border in ireland Irish Foreign minister Simon Company said that johnsons new proposals fell short of what was needed but he added this is not Mission Impossible there is a deal to be done here. The proposal from the british Prime Minister as it stands today wont be the basis of an agreement but if its a stepping stone. To to a landing zone then i think its. It should be seen in in a positive light. I want to stay with politics and go to art the art work devolved parliament was painted by the british street artist banksy 10 years ago but Current Events you could say in the u. K. Parliament had given it new relevance theyve also helped boost its price the work has just been sold for more than 11000000. 00 euros that is the highest some ever attained at an auction for one of banks these paintings. With questions parliament in turmoil over the fast approaching brics it deadline this was the painting fetching millions at southern b. s london auction house on thursday. Banks east take on a debate in the house of commons was originally titled question time when it was painted back in 2009. But the artist has renamed it devolved parliament in a damning critique delivered just off to m. P. s arguments over the bracks it to send it into what some saw as dangerous and inflammatory rhetoric. Well hes pointing to here is the regression of this the oldest parliamentary democracy in the world into tribalistic animalistic behavior the sorts that weve seen broadcast and i televisions across the world over the last months and weeks. Dark times for the British Parliament but good times for banksy the 11000000 euro winning bid was a record sale price for a work by the secretive street artist. It comes exactly off the shocks the out with a painting that stretches to south the moment it was sold. With balloon has since been known as love is in the bin. Perhaps they say midge is the artists warning to Britains Parliament not to go the same way. 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