Its terror state and beat that stand the people that are there to protect us. Its been like an endless like cascaded like pass tag that black people dying and we still have to deal with racism discrimination from people are just getting tired of it im tired of just the way its being treated. My grandmother and her hometown and my grandfather were both civil rights activists and both my parents are so honest and what you know needs to be done and you know growing up with them and seeing the changes at that but the experience. Also coming up tonight when the injustices far away serve as a mirror to that which is close to home the echoes of racism in america here in germany. Jokes floyd the seth of george floyd an African American has shaken many people here in germany and the around the world it is also shaken the German Government this was a horrific and avoidable death and it is deeply disturbing. To our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with the police the best and the worst the United States in just the past week has shown the world 2 very different faces of Law Enforcement in minneapolis we saw the cruel and inhumane come alive as a black man and met his death at the hands of police and according to statistics provided by the city of minneapolis this ugliest of behavior is not necessarily an anomaly the citys police use force against black people at 7 times the rate of whites and yet this week we have witnessed inspiring and emotional moments between officers and the protesting Public Police shaking hands hugging and marching with angry citizens and what about those images of policeman taking a knee to show solidarity with the protesters the identity of Law Enforcement pulled in all directions at the same time officers have been tasked with keeping the peace of violence and looting in cities under curfews more than 9000 have been arrested and Numerous Police officers have been fired for using excessive force. Another standoff between police and protest is. d both ends of new yorks Manhattan Bridge temporarily blocked by police after the 8 pm curfew kicks in the defiant crowds trapped until the brooklyn side of the bridge is reopened. Oh. My skinfold ive got a roof over the dog over 6 feet tall youre. Asking. Others to defy new yorks curfew marching through the city to protest at the death of george floyd an africanamerican at the hands of police most were peaceful but there were reports of violence including by some Police Officers. Grabbed innocent people for no reason i just cited like a couple none pushed on to the ground this do was abuse a journalist and a press does a person possibly pushed into the ground. President trump has threatened to deploy the military and has already called up more than 20000. 00 National Guard troops. Its a move that angered many including former president ial hopeful Elizabeth Warren because its been all this way so heres imposing i dont want our mortal people are here want to govern their protest we use phrases like even the pope has spoken out condemning racism and violence. We cannot tolerate or turn a blind eye to racism and exclusion in any form and yet claim to defend the sacredness of every human life. And at the heart of all this a human tragedy the mother of george floyd stored on able to hold back her tears and her full love. Infamy of yours because of the law and justice for hill. Just because him because he was. No matter with him about it think. In this is the proof he will forgive. Those calls for justice ringing out across the United States and beyond well one of poland tonights retired Police Lieutenant charles p. Wilson t. Is chairman of the National Association of black Law Enforcement officers he spent 45 years in Law Enforcement he joins me tonight from Providence Rhode island incident wilson its good to have you on to the day you know were learning tonight just like im sure you are that all 4 of these officers involved in the death of george floyd they have now been charged derrick cho been the man who needed the neck of george for hes now been charged with 2nd degree murder now all of this coming knowing days after the event that has rocked the us whats your reaction tonight but i want to say thank you for inviting me on your. Detractors were do. And the upgrade im on that im. Most likely appropriate. How much of an impact thats going to have on what has been taking place no ice for sure yet. I end it people need to recognize that they hold is bet having upgraded their charges and charging the other 3 officers will help to curtail some of the more violent parts of the protest it had been going on. Both lieutenant you said the upgrade from from 3rd degree murder charges to 2nd degree he said you know its most likely appropriate do you have any doubts about that 3rd no no there was never any doubt. That they did action that they took against some mr cloyd was improper. Horrendous. Inhumane and then how many you really use all all kinds of bad you tubes to describe it but it was just plain wrong and illegal youre no place in the long lexicon for that type of activity. I want to read from a position paper from your organization. Quoting here you know youve condemned Police Brutality and youve gone on record saying that policing is inherently biased against people of color now that paper that im reading from winton it is from may of 2008 thats 12 years ago and it could have easily been written today what has happened whats been going on the bus ticket last week it was within the last week and a half. I think the quote is actually down at the institution of policing is inherently biased against people of color and low income and it was designed to be that way. That is the Historical Foundation that my counterparts have to understand and accept. Only then can we start to move forward with trying to better the services. Courts people in the community do you see something positive when you see Law Enforcement officers now taking a need to show solidarity with the protesters i see it adds as a hopeful haase ability i mean you know weve. In some respects it may be nothing more than a coup by guy. On what people have to recognize. On the 900000 some odd Police Officers across the country. Its very few of them that. Was engaged in the type of back to video that you saw in many hours. Unfortunately those are the ones that the media. Puts the highlight off they dont highlight those officers who are actually out there doing a good job. Taking care of people in the community. In hansing the relationships between police and community. We know that the problem is to go the officers that ministration and managers. Have problems getting rid of. But these are people who should never have been on they got hurt us religion let me ask you im a visit youre talking about perceptions im sure youve seen the images of those Police Officers tasering those 2 young africanamericans in atlanta this week we understand that 2 officers have been fired in both of those officers were africanamerican now when i heard this story i expected that those officers would be white what does that tell us what does it tell you about our assumptions here when were talking about Police Brutality. Least brutality can exist no matter which side of the fence it is opposition is and always has this we dont care who perpetrate it. Cracked white or indifferent. We believe that any officer who perpetrate. Kalki or excessive use of force and any officer who simply goes along with it or refuses to call it out. Should all receive the same odd. Charges just saying. No the due process and yet its a myth and everything. And it doesnt matter who it is or ask you about what the British Association today the National Association of Law Enforcement it condemned the actions of those 4 officers in minneapolis it also highlighted that lowered force in the u. K. Is policing by consent meaning that the people want the cops to be prez it can you say the same about us policing at the moment. If you wont talk the idea of right now i have to tell you no i at least not in communities of color. They dont have a lot of trust in Law Enforcement and that even extends to do those of us in black forces. While yes we are. Typically imbedded in our communities did the vast majority of the members of our it is asian are working in munis where they live and grew up in. So that they they know the people they are the people know their own and they know that they can be trusted to do treat them with respect and dignity. That you hadnt always happened let me ask you before we run out of time you know you have seen almost a half century of Law Enforcement in the us i mean youve seen so much change. You started being a Police Officer i think about the same time i was born so im wondering is policing in the us now about to say yes 72 here is policing in the us today where you imagined it would be when you became a Police Officer back in 1971 is checked. You have to look at the way we reach out to the now trained you have to look at the way. They are hired you have to look at the way they are men holliss and procedures are a much different now. Concepts are much different now and even the patterns of the various change deputy changed in supervisory personnel a much different than they were in in the early seventys. All right were going to have the reparative there were run out of time retired Police LieutenantCharles Wilson chairman of the National Association of black Law Enforcement officers who say that it was good talking with you we appreciate your time tonight and we appreciate your wealth of insight and experience thank you thank you for being inviting me. These simmering anger and frustration over Police Brutality and raises them its not an american invention the protests in the u. S. Have triggered protests and solidarity across the globe in london thousands of protesters gathered today to honor the life of george floyd. Matter organize the rally to draw attention to what they say is this is discrimination which harms people of color in the u k. Speakers corner in londons hyde park a Meeting Point for demonstrates has over the years. I thought that this time they gathered to draw attention to injustices against black people sparked by the death of george floyd in the us. Among the protesters star was actor john boy into a prominent voice against racism. Who those present were also eager to stress that these problems were not limited to america. He came and the signal people dispersed theres been many gun nuts im not because i think of them its part of. The us and about us in the world but as. I said i would if i thought i had any. Interest of the race i. Was just very competent to see the collective grief amongst everyone and their willingness to change the Current Situation because im still yet to see this is kind of the an antithesis of what this is all about. Then the crowd marched through the city stopping at the Prime Ministers Office and residence on downing street. Was i i did not receive an audience from Boris Johnson although he addressed the matter and parliament. I think what happened in in the United States was appalling it was inexcusable we all saw it on our screens and i perfectly understand peoples right to protest what took place they obviously i would say believe the protests should take place in a a low for an reasonable way. Currently the largest gatherings allowed in the u. K. A limited to 6 people because of the coronavirus threat which has been devastating for the country that rule was not enforced at this rally although the event comes at a time when britain is easing lock down restrictions. Well the u. K. Is not the only european country coming to terms with racism here in germany protesters have also been album the streets moved to action by the death of george florey racism in germany in israel and in a moment well talk to a veteran german antiracism campaigner about her experiences but 1st take a listen to what is being said about racism in the country at the highest level today german chancellor Angela Merkels spokesman was asked is there systemic racism in germany cunts that says racism certainly isnt an american problem its a problem in many societies and im sure theres racism in germany too skipped been zisha that people are not disadvantaged if they offer example of black german or a german whose name doesnt sound german a 3rd site midst of them is simply. We all know that because thankfully they say so. So every society including ours is called upon to counter that again and again and to work toward a Better Society in which people are no longer judged by their skin color. By the origin or whatever features they have convince. And that was stephens i mean theyre the Spokes Person for the german chancellor Angela Merkel lets bring in now aneta kahaani shes chairperson and cofounder of the im a day you and tony a foundation here in berlin thats a Grassroots Group named after a mozambican man who was murdered in a recent attack in germany 30 years ago it works at a Grassroots Level to combat racism and that its good to have you on the program you are an activist its good to see you youre an activist youre not a government Spokes Person so im going to ask you the same question that was that was posed today to stephens i mean is there systemic racism in germany. Yes well as there is we have a huge problem with right wing extremism and right wing extremism we have a lot of neo nazis in germany and we have a big problem with institutional racism in all forms of the society in education and housing and jobs in the house system and of course with the police as well so. I think the government should know that because they are very aware of the problem of right wing extremism and now right now you know another you say that that it exists and yet it took an event in the United States to move people here in germany to go on the streets and to protest what do you think is motivating people here are they truly antiracist or do you think theres a bit of antiamericanism mixed in with this. No i think the people on the streets really antiracists there are a lot of black people on the streets in germany now and but also their friends our we all are on the streets right now but you are right theres some little moment of antiamericanism when people officials in the administration when they are talking about racism and thinking that this is only a problem of the United States you know there is Something Like out a nexus between the United States and racism and they always deny that we have a problem with racism here as well they used the word racism out to magically in communication with the United States and i think there was a little element of antiamericanism because these people probably are also can be racist as well but theyre not on the streets i think the people whiners on the streets right now they want to show their solidarity they want to show the grief and they want to remember to all the victims of right wing violence that we went that we have in germany as well imagine we had more than 200 People Killed by neo nazis. In this time since the unification so this is a very high number of victims you know back in 9098 you set up this foundation and i was wondering what did you feel it was necessary to set up a foundation against racism and you how were you able to to organize. Well im trying to find people and friends and we had all the same idea that especially when we started we started in east germany that was just becoming a part of the entire west german system and east germany there were very very few people of color very few. Immigrants are black people and of very high level of racism and so i thought that this can all be only can be stopped by people themselves so we have to encourage people who want to build up a Civil Society of east germany who want to take care wanted to know. Bring their protests on the street when there are cases of right wing extremism or racism and so we started to to find people and to give them some money some support and so hyundai ssion grow and now we are quite Big Organization dealing with hate speech and antisemitism and racism and all of this terrible stuff that the society the modern society has and. Were trying to find that money from donors and thats not so easy because this is not really a issue that people like to give money for and me answering our best let me ask you about that and that i mean since 1998 when you were you sort of this foundation and youre comparing then to where we are now in 2020 amid what kind of changes weve got about a minute left what kind of chair you seem positive change. Yeah so i you know when when that. Last year in the last. 12 months we had a lot of terror attacks and murder cases of people so we had the ad tag on the synagogue and house and we had an attack and had no way. Guy killed 10 people we had a murder case. That was. Official representative of the of a region was killed yeah and so this was a very high this was a big shock for the administration and i have to interrupt unfortunately were out of time and the but we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us tonight another go honey with the mayor Antonio Foundation thank you aneta and i. Well the day is always done the conversation that continues online join us on twitter you can follow me a break off t. V. And remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day well see you then everybody. More good byes sausage and a loaf rejects. Big changes are underway in the Food Industry morning one of them in all of the major Food Companies are changing to meet new demand. And a less may consumption really help the environment. Join us as we explored germany. Made in germany. Including minutes on d w. Im scared that if i were not tarred and. 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