A recent battle between its own troops and Chinese Forces in the far north my guest this week from new delhi is sudan chetry of 80 a member of the upper house of parliament and the National Spokesperson for the ruling b. J. Peace why does his party seem to show so much tolerance for those who found the flames of communal hatred. That im sure they do welcome to conflict zone lets talk about indias response to the pandemic 1st of all various aspects of your governments response have been massively criticised both inside and outside india how much the 24th your Prime Minister mr modi gave indians just 4 hours notice of a lockdown something that one indian writer called the most punitive and least planned lockdown in the world what did you expect 100000000 Migrant Workers spread out across the country to do with just 4 hours notice. If you want to understand what very high status of the situation in this issue of who want cycling keep up our china theyll be out of the yes nation in the water but under the will to fight who are all nations with 70 percent of the People Living in google area its 27 percent is still an ellipse. But what percent living below poverty line you know or indian varies every day 25000000 people are terribly lonely and they. Thought was so every sane that more dying should have been given a lot. If you can see that see for us number one well the spend the week broke out in the month of january there was only one libertine it was stuff available in this now we are under so so or at a time we were not that much good. Second thing at the time there were a lot more actual gets because there were lots more lots for actual they were used only in the hospitals and the diggle care unit section now if youre that its 2nd thing never the less number of ventilators 30 look at how i understand i understand mr trevanion but millions of workers were left stranded in city tax with no food shelter money or means of transport did nobody in your government think of that when the announcement was made. It gets a bit you humility i would like to say this is the totally wrong. Property wouldve been provided all those weary i did it but even for those who i did those who were not having any idea what. 2nd thing the ticket money is being transferred 1000 rupees to every farmers 500 rupees to every woman and daughter who are living below poverty line they were all wired gas seen once the office was this im talking about the only double edition well i want to see and im just telling you that that the un the un did not buy your comforting assurances u. N. Experts said just 3 weeks ago we were appalled at the disregard shown by the Indian Government towards internal migrant laborers especially those who belong to marginalize minorities and lower costs they said youd failed to address that by humanitarian situation subjected them to Police Brutality and failed to stop their stickman ties ation as virus carriers. Telling you telling me they dont know what theyre talking about at the end i didnt nations one g. B. Was i would like to complete the 41000 crore rupees as people like it but deny your orsons if your farmers if 100000000 farmers what i get. In there is do alts so there was nothing of this sort and imagine the will issue now if 200. 00 millions if they are living in rule it out what would have been a situation the government. And did you notice that i would like to see all the International Leaders if there are certain elements in our system which try to give. Long information then there are certainly lets talk about some of the bodies within india because some of your leading medical bodies also trashed the governments response didnt they the Indian Public Health association the Indian Association of preventive and social medicine the Indian Association of epidemiologists they accused you of incoherent and often rapidly shifting strategies and policies relying on the predictions of model is that they said well way off the mark how do you out of that charge. Not in our hands those who are saying this we are the biggest democracy of the word and to do it a sect i would like to see from Eastern Europe and japan we are the only surviving i mean democracy the Prime Minister is still getting uncertain of all the up with. All the chief ministers of the state and a lot dont do all this started ride percent of what went to the arms foreign minister several 1000000 are the lot and the name of 106 and up. Then up we sob and by the opposition government so it was the other Political Party in you it was realizing that it is a wideman lock down like im a lot who still have a 2nd 5th of what not so if was to get that you closer to each other but. Rather mr consulted explodes by the systems or heard even by mr this answer and which are. And of any justice heart doctors advocate not to trivia if that was all true why by the 2nd week in june was the Supreme Court ordering the government to transport workers back to the homes within 15 days it also told the police to cancel all that charges against those who went able to get home by themselves its something of a disgrace isnt it that the Supreme Court actually has to order your government to do the decent humane thing that most other governments would do by themselves so who looks after the interests of the poor certainly not the b j p is it the law and order they said suck it 100 percent the 3rd subject Central Government at least go. To the feds subject send it only controlling the central units. Stole on the stand it was the primary responsibility of base governments to look up at that Central Government try to suck more money and the sources unfortunately because of some misguided and some mysterious im not accusing all some esteemed governments one and it will do all that but that i have action that test created a little bit and in some State Government of the day that they have be if it wasnt it and live in a migrant labor camp and. Give if all i have and press and then the subsequent. Men are never coming back we will wither by bus it really will be managed and the Central Government has the ear or if i put it above cost of the remit to get it deep or so what it was they said government so if there is any thing to be said arm up while the government as one has done my bit limit is each one of the probably still government because finding out what is and they said government when he doesnt think yes i think that is you know heres something that is your responsibility talk to evade it lets lets talk about food by the end of april the Food Corporation of india had 77000000 tons of cereals in stock but instead of giving it to states with very little money or ruling party tried to sell it to them at market rates something which shocked economists rita kara from the Indian Institute of management for instance said the governments unwillingness to relent and give it free to the states is mind boggling they couldnt understand why you were trying to profit from this grain instead of giving people who not you dance of the lead on a moment has given free of cost millions of those who are not having ive been to god but then the government has given free of cost like a jeep all. If i give your rice some elses and all of them of packets they saw that it is dyed it wasnt but the stuff or titian cost but not only did. It just been provided free of cost by government and the State Government also or so we do respond by saying was already saying you dont like janet and that can provide the start just. Not when his is a statistic from the Financial Times which reported that of the the money most of the money that was given in extra funding it was less than 12000000000. 00 or about no point 4 percent of indias g. D. P. G. D. P. Thats one of the lowest levels of relief provided by any asian economy you proud of that on the contrary the government of india has provided a deep. Well it took 21. 00 macro rupee if we just dont put a cent of the g. D. P. Just 10 percent of the g. D. P. But that figure isnt filtering through to International Experts thats not filtering through and and also dr trevenna lets look at the special fund called the Prime Minister caspian cast that has also brought a fresh deluge of criticism from around the country the Prime Minister launched this fund with great fanfare in march received some one point 27000000000. 00 in funds which the government matched why so few details on how this money is being spent and why no official audit from the government know what it is the c. A. G. What have you got to hide here again i would like to say the fund of funds that you did in the month of march and the audit is done better than the financial youve got me who said in the 2 months of what you. Did you can barely even deafening is not overly complete it. 50000 ventilators i called the news that i pleaded and given my youngest son and it is a purely Government Fund in bed the Prime Minister is the chairman all ministers a member and the defense minister is a member nobody for many of the other parties nobody from the other party what why arent all the documents related to this fund made public why the lack of transparency better the question of microphones and an issue to get any and anybody asks that what was left and better was done not sure anybody in us the question at the time got me and then its too late and then its too late why dont you release the information now people are giving money what because workers have been asked to give money government workers have been asked to give money why shouldnt they see where this money is going now government have already given it if. It is quite tolerant or if i must have been given to this separate details had been given with a fairly gentle on the end that was when there were. More than expenditures to be done but why did as you know theres been considerable controversy over the fact that oh all the people in charge of this fund are from your party and if its public money tell the public whats going on with it thats the point that people are making to you you know perfectly well its been well reported in the indian press you are misled it is not done by the members of it by peter and i dont members of the government exactly thats my point its meant run by members of the government only theres nobody from any of the other parties involved in making the decisions on this in this body nobody and nobody why not can you get me any financial body in the government of india. In which a member of the body of their identity loyal to the teacher of 80 its not just your response to the pandemic thats attracted criticism agency after agency has highlighted the forming levels of democracy in your country i noticed a few months ago us highlighting the fact that your country is a democracy this years report from he that Freedom House spoke of the Indian Governments alarming departures from democratic norms under the Prime Ministers b j p it also wanted you the largest score decline among the worlds 25 largest democracies in its 2020 Freedom Index are you proud of that can you tell me only one fact on this the most criticised aspect of your decline has been the passage last december of the citizenship law which uses religion as a criterion for deciding which Illegal Migrants can be fast tracked for citizenship the measure favors members of all south asias religions except islam which just happens to be your 2nd largest faith thats hardly a coincidence is it i will give dancing in 2 parts number one in the eyes of the old lisa. And. All of the family. And the particular version of lawlessly people is very much so it was incumbent on the i propose to be the secular and the Democratic Caucus these are that these should give shelter to those who are really just leave but we are not selected and welcome yes there in those states. Bullis why do you stand secular un high commissioner for human rights doesnt agree with you he calls the law fundamentally discriminatory in nature and he should know shouldnt he deals with human rights abuses worldwide in italy. And its really discriminatory in nature yes that muslims are well suited in their country that you cant consider that it was you have given 500 muslims as a logic but you walk a thon of i love what i just thought of come and openly say theyre just muslims also or dont consider that is why does your party why is it so brazen in attacking its perceived enemies and why does it tolerate so much hate speech we have your home minister ahmed shah referring to migrants as termites to be eradicated in order to protest the b j ps chief minister yogi and thats promised revenge against those who protested against the citizenship amendments act and said they should be fed bullets not biryani why are these people never reined in by your party or disciplined by your party and allowed to say these these things. Again i would like to say if you go by the records was a. Big just abuse is being used the words of it being used against the Prime Minister and they are saying that there are not. A lot of tough words have been frequently used openly or Later National media only in the us openly honestly both nor no. On the contrary you lot a lot of political machine of of the country to public t. V. Would. Be hit by police and question what just was shown to a political one. And other journalists and busy you know dozens of why are the new port a cinema started by an journalist who says that you have to be a preventive why does our Capital Capital mishra for instance of the be j. P. In delhi he led a demonstration calling on people to shoot the protesters why was he allowed to do that no it is wrong you have never used the word through i cant convict check your facts yet you have the order though you must take us what you wind or illegally or one month he has used the word i am saying that well didnt you remove this illegal occupation otherwise. Lot your. Thought and you are somebody might be legal there are a warden for your house and if you 17 years it is not. Removed by police then you decide whats important to what is the shooting to achieve a bit dumb to trade it in the aftermath of the february riots in which more than 50 people died and the most of the muslims in the aftermath there was one of the most telling episodes when the Delhi High Court heard petitions about the riots in the city and asked why the police had not filed cases against b j p p politicians who had advocated violence the presiding judge dr marandi da warned the delhi police of serious consequences for not investigating statements by p. J. P. Politicians he said im really appalled by the state of affairs of the delhi police the courts had earlier watch videos of 4 b j p leaders capital mishra on the faca abhay vama and pov ish them which the job described as hate mongering hate mongering how do you get away from that. I would like to put it i think you were that it on one instance that she didnt say its what was said by. The shooting was in the context of iraq but what of your what you said you did just local to the creators of the country people said to them yes i actually meant this type of slogans the way it should have been a friend and he stopped us but he had not used the word shoot them in that he had shot the judge the judge called it hate mongering and you know what happened of course to the judge days later he receives a transfer or to at midnight to a completely different part of the country and the federal law minister says it was routine and a great by the Supreme Court a routine transfer at midnight do you seriously expect anyone to believe this you managed to remove a judge who was asking questions about your politicians thats the sum of it isnt it i want to i want to be for you and that for me make a point number one time slower but that is not done by government it is done by the lithium of the force that is 2nd to think how convenient how convenient that it was just after he had us all could questions become eagles and then suddenly the time for order was done there to follow and that judge in question had also given the consent rather than before it was done but it was not exactly what it if youre going to do what he should have you believe much every. I dont im saying it was done rather they have the full affluence in this is a political not going on in the short time that we have left dr to evade it id like to just talk about the recent battle between indian and chinese troops in the Northern Light that region once again this has raised questions about different versions coming from the b j p government where exactly did the fight take place between indian and Chinese Forces we know that some of the Chinese Forces died we also know that 20 indian soldiers were killed where exactly did this fight take place specifically on whose side of the border. Prime minister a little bit clear night johnny still but it will. Not allow any of it was his underwear and thats not what i asked i asked where the fight had taken place then our light was no defense in the line up or. So light on military control is there yet. And in between that had several kilometers of it which is a lot less so then understanding in that is the pacific defenses. Who can come and what they will not eat and stuff. But the bottom line and. Our troops are going to be find out that head of their at elysee enough that is ya there try to find out if everybody so they have decided to force them back so where the battle took place well on whose territory in the no mans land are you saying if it happened on here that chinese in the chinese site in the chinese medically going to alight. This is where the battle took place with your forces yes and the other 4 young forces were in chinese territory or in no mans land where were they. Why is this so difficult why is it so difficult to tie down that you might get deadline off military can and can be said that it was several kilometers of. This deadline and women that people not fired any arm you do not do any art you will i. P. O. D. And you do not any dont believe you are going to hold up a moment when our troops are really there follow that in that no mans land and all of their you know there was something pretty structure so that yeah simple but they didnt know that despite going to structure and then brought him back and they were. So this all happened in the no mans land is that right is that what youre telling me it didnt happen in chinese territory and it didnt happen on indians territory the clear implication from all this fudging is that the chinese did cross into what you regard as indian territory but you wont admit that because you dont want to appear either weak for letting it happen or worse being asleep on the job and not reacting until it was too late which was it no it was very clear that the chinese troops were there the whole be shocked and still is exactly there and then one of. The groups of the equally shy of a year group just exactly there as they were before and in that period in which there was an agreement that nobody should come by to come there. Why not just say clearly the chinese violated your border or they didnt we had 2 different versions we had the Prime Minister saying no no one has intruded into our territory or taken over any post and we had the foreign minister who said the chinese side sought to erect a structure in go one valley on our side of the line of actual control on our side in other words 2 different versions from 2 leading figures in your government no there was no difference at all as far as the chinese in the land is and some just saw horse in twos and since 1000 they have captured a certain if you are over it only in 1062 years of the us there you know what but now that if i pull the shan then military hope that it will be so loud the outdated. If you say that the i dont know what theyre going to just you know what it. Is yes and what the militant group will jump doesnt it is not the end its what the answer to evade it thank you very much im not sure that youve cleared up the simple question of when it happened but thank you very much for your answers thank you. Through the point. Clear visit International Perspectives subject the coronavirus continues to spread relentlessly and its the one who are suffering most both in better off industrialized countries and in the global south so how should the International Community respond to join me and my guests some to the point short. Term to point. The bin 30 minutes on t w. As many imperfections. As i do for my body for my resting heart rate hard to hide and i really have to do something about my wrinkles talk to constant record says self optimization gives me a trend in spades whos not convinced so whats the point can we be perfectly happy. Good shit. Minutes on d w. Y and on demand. Language courses. Video and audio. Anytime anywhere. W. Media sector. 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