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To do. Its good to have you with us the conflict in afghanistan has been going on for nearly 2 decades and as tens of thousands of people but its hoped u. S. Backed talks between the Afghan Government and the taliban in qatar could lead to a Peace Agreement afghanistan. Is currently in pakistan a country also seen as crucial when it comes to securing a deal because of its influence but the taliban and its strategic interest in its neighbor well have more on islamabads role in a moment but 1st a quick look back at the conflict that has brought untold misery to the people of afghanistan. They are faces of the innocent. Victims of afghanistans long running conflict there have been tens of thousands more in fact and surviving family members want them to be remembered by those negotiating for peace in their country some simply because they are so desperate. They actually have never i would only forgive my sons killing if i could witness a lasting peace in the country. There shouldnt be any more war no conflicts so that our people can work and earn a living well maybe a lot of the will and all the people of afghanistan who have suffered from the war in the country want an end to this current conflict. Negotiations between taliban insurgents and the Afghan Government opened in Early September in cutter after months of talks between the taliban and the us just grit sides desperate to curb the killings a massive undertaking to Jennifer Aniston you know by the hour we want afghanistan to be an independent united and developed country and it should have an islamic system. In which all tribes and ethnicities of the country. Who find themselves without any discrimination. And lived their lives in love and brotherhood put out to me etc youre looking for. Love and brotherhood in a country that in recent decades has witnessed so much bloodshed and the threat of violence remains an ever present backdrop to the negotiations. Both sides posturing but keenly aware that more innocents will lose their lives more families will grieve if negotiators come up empty. And just to remind our viewers that afghanistans top negotiator is currently in pakistan seeking its support for the ongoing talks in a door for more on that im joined now by did shows sharmila shrubs common good to see you what is pakistans role in the afghan Peace Process. But says it is. Not just on dialogue which is happening in the long. Run also facility the us dollar. Just on believes that dealing which the us and the taliban signed in the salary would not have been possible without without express literature and. So got into the government it is a Facilitation Group but when we see this liberation stoners not doing it for the us august on its not doing it for kabul boston is doing it or its just on as a strategic box on its own defense and political interests. Which are quite complex but it is a fact and you must admit that the us dollar bond not have been possible because of a stance of. The bought some about spain at the moment it. Is also. You spoke about pakistani self interest what is pakistans self interest in the afghan Peace Process while pakistan wants to have a friendly government in pakistan was one of the very few countries in the 99. Bucks on a government. Accepted the taliban regime recognized ordered 996 but then the us invasion of afghanistan happened in 2001 so the pakistani establishment. The box on the army believes that it lost that kind of influence on afghanistan after the taliban regime was dismantled in 2001 we saw that. In the an increase in students of us on strike india an increase in afghanistan 2001 which the Pakistani Military did not like much irrespective of that stock believes that if they have a regime. Which is most of all the more understanding of its interests will have backers humans in the region so that is exactly. Strong east process box on wants to have a regino the future Political Center that supports interest in afghanistan and. You spoke about exerting influence in afghanistan im having a friendly government that potentially counters indian influence i mean the United States and the Afghan Government have accused pakistan of giving the taliban a safe haven and its a point that you alluded to as well talking about the recognition that the taliban government had received in the early ninetys from pakistan is pakistan using the taliban potentially as a bargaining chip in these peace negotiations. I dont think that the new government stuff specially the military when we talk about a fierce all Foreign Policy about the military. Which is at the moment. I believe that box on does not have that kind of influence over the top it will extend it had a 9090. 00 days but it is still considerable influence on the ballot. Definitely hasnt resulted or let on to an extent and it was to use. Influence. Do get the maximum of the peace talks on is very good thats why we see up the love box on. The authorities because of the knows that it. Is not also the peace talks will not work. Well leave it there for the time being but i guess so much for speaking to us. Human Rights Organization Amnesty International says it is holding its work in india due to reprisals from the government the move comes after its Bank Accounts were sealed by authorities allegedly for violating rules on foreign funding the organization has been investigated in the past as well over sources of its finances it has been under fire recently for criticizing Company Policy in this meeting and for alleging police in the capital delhi had committed Human Rights Violations during the riots that happened in february. Shooks ryan is a writer on indian politics and society and a professor at the university in sweden he joins me now on the line francis when welcome one of the worlds most respected human Rights Organizations shutting its operations in the Worlds Largest democracy how concerned should we be. I think it is for the world to be really concerned about but this is nothing new that has been our aim of. Stopping the lawyers are stopping the descent. Part of a long time particularly since not in the more they came to power in 2040 there have been patios international. Organizations of those who have been operating in india and they have begun to out of trouble and also the number of local organizing indian organizations and activists and they are also facing trouble if they are all getting resources from abroad so i think this is not new but this is what does happen now is to clearly when they have stopped all amnesty has been forced to stop all its operation that is really scary they have been on the government trick or. Pressure act list could last 2 years but this has gone. Quite quite. Well but its also just under the names or more the government is that i mean honestly finances were questioned in the past in 2009 as well when the Congress Government was at the center i suppose the question is why is it funding and has to do with its finances repeatedly under the scanner. Im nesting gets some support from outside but also better have been a number of indian donors to have provided funding but i think what the funding is its about always the idea as you said in 2009 also im thats a good amount of us kind of but peta has been sometimes that have been not them to be poor to stop these fires of dissent in india but what i said what are the happen now it has been a kind of vetting organized a way of deciding stopping the dissent whatever the war posthorses had come from and that have been what i dont want the poles and are going to use and its not only im this duty that are going to pose and full of loss and you are sob staci been stopped receiving my money from abroad im nestea has been kind of far more a to get this kind of focused art then some because of its International Type your and or so its it has been brought out a number of resource particularly in the last 2 months though it brought about but important in august why one gust mean then i think august 20th 28th on their bellies riots and i think immediately after a back to the government more whites with glee and stopped on what they were the accounts they had before that they had all still im but i get there and even some of the people from india those who have gone to because 100000 come to bush and people those who have contributed to india and even some of the smaller. One to put us i have been on top of the government. Backs up hundreds attack so this attack on Amnesty International if you can call it that that home endures image abroad. India high but what they were dealt with International Liver is or International Law or premium interpret because it is a democratic and secular character and i think that it has been. Under attack for the period of for some of us not only them and some particularly since 2014 but i think at the internationally different the telephone media or media. Putting it to that this is this is what been happening in india and i think about going against the mystic stopping at all about one thing all uppercase operations will be im not the id some do this kind of india losing its democratic character for us were never there for the timing but thank you so much for joining us professor a hoax line. And thats of the today theres more on. And you can follow us on facebook on twitter as well from back to more of the same time. Combating the pandemic. Where does research stand. What are scientists learning. Background information and. Our corona update. 19 special next on d w. Every day counts for us and for our planet. Is on its way to bring you more conservation. How do we make seeds clean. How can we protect habitats. We can transfer. The line to the environmental series of little 3000. Dollars. Its the largest disruption of Global Education systems in history. When the pandemic 1st taser round one and a half 1000000000 students around the world were sent home as schools closed their doors. Saw how thin 3 opened but class isnt in session for hof of the world school children. The lucky ones were able to pursue their studies online. But for many even in developed countries that is not an option. The world was already. Struggling to come to grips with educational inequality now the United Nations warns the covert crisis is making it worse disproportionately affecting the most vulnerable threatening to wipe out decades of progress for this generation and possibly beyond. This is over 1000 special im paid for a phone thanks for joining me at the height of the pandemic schools in some 190 countries close their doors many have since reopened but the experience of lockdown heightened major inequality in education and even richer countries like germany have struggled with the challenges of going to a little. Pencils a shop and books are out and students are back in the classrooms but it seems not much of the Digital Learning put in place during lockdown has survived here at the sleds causeless school in berlin. Teacher says many of the challenges involved in Digital Learning remain. The foundational problems are still there a lot of parents dont understand technology a lot of families dont have internet or Digital Technology at home but the schools are much better prepared so we are able to have clouds and Messenger Services and email that is all. In accordance with Data Protection laws which was not the case before the corona crisis has made schools realise how much still needs to be done in most classrooms teaches and students still use an anon tools and learning materials to change that the German Government has put aside 5000000000 curios to digitalize the classroom money desperately needed says coprincipal in a fed when looking at his equipment this is. It is definitely the case that teachers and parents are investing their own private resources to digitalize this of course staff and initiatives by the state but that always comes with a lot of bureaucracy which we see now as well with the current funding so in the end you have to make sure you take all that you can get. Until now only one of over 1200 students at this school has received a tablet financed by the state students our way of how slowly things are moving and want to see change. If you tell us you go in theres room for improvement in the digitalisation of our school to say the least theres not enough equipment for all students it was not enough to make proper home schooling possible. But some students think that they are now better prepared in case of another look down. A month from us which i dont know at the beginning it was new for all of us the system the computer is working at home now i think that it will while better than the 1st time. But the ideal classroom that can switch effortlessly from the school to each students very unfair means that distant goal. Thats talking to professor fernando reamers he for director of the Global Education Innovation Initiative Harvard University professor bremer thanks for joining us youve said that the current disruption to learning could cause the biggest educational setback in history could you expound on that for us. Absolutely im delighted to be with you the currency has to be set in the complex of the fact that over the last 7 decades the world experienced the most remarkable silent revolution in the history of humanity as a result of the expansion of boxes to school which went from including about one of 2 children in school 70 years ago doing clearing just about everyone now this pandemic through 3 mechanisms is going to create a major said by the 1st mechanism is that because schools have to create of turn in ways of delivering education in a limited time with limited professional preparation teachers those mechanisms have not reached out students all students equally well you know this is the kind of support that is available to students our home varies depending on the level of education of their parents and other socioeconomic level and as a result for the students who have not been reached effectively who do not have adequate support at home they are not learning and they are not engaging in school well that means is that some of them are going to have a very hard im continuing their studies when that and then hes over and some of them are going to drop out altogether in some cases caused by the a memory consumption of these as causes children to begin to work to help their families survive and finally the 3rd mechanism is a piece is creating enormous Financial Burdens in some states and as a result of their being available for education so those. 3 mechanisms are the ones that are going to cause major setbacks in how many children are able to return to school were going to see many of them drop out and were going to see that for many children even those who continue there will be significant gaps in their knowledge the schools may or may not be able to help them recover so some huge challenges that now youve spoken to educators all over the world whats the most surprising thing youve heard from them. Correct over the last 6 months i have been doing Extensive Research with colleagues of the o. E. C. D. And of the world via what has really surprised me the most are 3 things number one the tremendous concern for education of shock cation e. C. M. Im of a pandemic when life is what is at stake as a very very serious concern and that speaks to a major cultural shift in humanity if you think about the law and any cover 1918 education was not one of the top 3 was not even 100 then comes ours and the fact that he is it speaks very well about how we as as the as a Global Community have internalized how important the development of the talent and skills of the next generation are the 2nd thing that has surprised me is the professionalism of many teachers who have demonstrated to them and you creation is not just a job its a life mission and they have worked extremely hard to create alternative ways to continue to reach their students sometimes with the support of their local governments state governments sometimes in the absence of support the 3rd thing that has surprised me is the remarkable create innovation that has resulted from a liberation collaboration among teachers within schools among schools collaborations of organizations of civil so. I think that some of those innovations have been facilitated by the teachers who are connected to networks of people outside their jurisdictions that communication extensive communication whos a teacher in touch with others in places are on a weight has created the equivalent of a many cheer fecht and marriage effect is a term used to refer to what happened in florence several decades after the taliban and then when lawrence for the minute she beamed up cd iraqi of art and intellectuals and sign. Rb. I felt like machiavelli and out of dot com hurricanes are great minds in a small ways. And i think others are preparing for some schools these communication these collaborations going to really bring about some arms in some schools but sized it out into on a hopeful note there professor financial risk thanks so much for speaking with us because i prefer thank you very much heartening time now to answer one of your questions about the koran if i rest over to our science correspondent eric williams. How do you decide which parts of the population get vaccinated 1st. Theres a lot of worry at both the national and International Levels that when a vaccine does become available it wont be distributed to the people who need it most on an equitable basis but who does need it the most and while lawmakers are already coming up with lists of of who should be at the front of the line and with some variations thats what Health Authorities around the world will hopefully carry through on in assuming that politicians are able to grasp the idea that this is a global issue that wont be solved by that scene nationalism which is a big if but supplies will also be limited initially at least so there needs to be a framework in place to maximize benefits. The Vaccine Alliance or gobby which is the International Organization that plays a vital role in Vaccine Development and distribution all over the world its come up with guidelines and theyre providing the most benefit for the most people worldwide even with limited resources over 150. 00 countries have now signed up to its kovacs initiative it recommends that the 1st people to get a vaccine should be those most exposed to the disease which are the health care and and social care workers on the pandemic front lines thousands of them all over the planet who have died from coke in 1000 already next in line would be older people over 60 fives alone with those at higher risk if they catch the disease like like people with with Underlying Health conditions most countries will probably also prioritize professions that are deemed to be essential for people like caregivers and rest homes or Police Officers or those who work in a Key Industries like Food Production which already clear is that children will be far down on the list and not only because of that 19 is less deadly in general for them but also because itll take more time to produce and test vaccines that are specifically tailored to kids. And finally for many adjusting to the new normal means avoiding social gathering and not setting foot in restaurants but thats not good enough for one company in japan theyve unveiled a new robotic way sir and they hope will help people enjoy it while keeping their distance softbank from posix says the ai driven robot is designed to keep customers and restaurant staff safe. Delivering food and drinks with a little risk of infection the ai driven robot will be alone dash to select restaurants and have hot this winter. And thats all from me thanks so much for watching take care. To. Kick off. This town atmosphere means listless clay far from the. Looks of gums fundamentalist flights of sensible. Nonstop excitement to the final match to. The series going. To. Be going to minutes on d w. Im from people make fun about their own social economic and political problems. In mozambique we say that you have to laugh so you dont try to install people call me a baby girl. 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This is the w. s life form girl and devastating milestone Coronavirus Claims more than a 1000000 lives around the world in less than a year shattering lives and life leave it across nearly 200 countries one inconsolable family shares their harrowing loss also coming up in the. Fighting in the disputed territory of the borno kind about players for a 3rd day germanys chancellor Angela Merkel and u. S. Secretary of state mike pompei you add their voices to calls for a cease fire plus the stage is set to present trump and his democratic challenger joe biden face off in the 1st of 3 televised president ial debates as they go head to head the fallout from the bombshell revelations of trumps tax returns continues can biden turn trumps a loss into a win and a piece of the berlin wall that everyone loves the east side gallery marks 30 years since it turned the great grim wall into the riot of color and find. A lark its a pleasure to be with you all but we start this broadcast with the fallout from the deadly coronavirus which skin tin used to spread like wildfire around the world and has now claimed the lives of more than 1000000 people but experts caution that the true number is probably a whole lot higher the Johns Hopkins University Database recorded this tragic milestone in the database shows the virus has. To at least 188. 00 countries and fatalities have been rising through most of the months of august and september after weeks of gradual decline many countries are now seeing a resurgence in corona virus cases including here in europe and experts say the crisis is far from over. Our want to take a look now at the countries with the most deaths resulting from covert 1000. 00 while they include the us mexico and brazil as well as the u. K. France iran and india but if we look at the number of deaths as a proportion of the population of each country we get a better indication of the impact of the virus and as you can see in a moment to right behind me the list is now slightly different and includes the countries of ecuador and bolivia as well as italy and belgium and here in germany infection rates are also climbing interest on the americal is due to meet with the countrys state leaders to discuss a new strategy for combat in the pandemic while chancellor merkel has warned that Current Trends could lead to a major spike in infection rates before the end of the year but just how ready is germany for a 2nd wave w. News visit one Doctors Office in the center of berlin thats hoping to get ahead of the curve. 12 meters long and growing. That feeling of todays line at a medical practice from berlin. People have come here to get tested for corona through the window no appointment necessary. I think its a really nice option doesnt take so much time and its it may be safer than going to of hospital and sitting in the close space where patients can be sick but here everything everyone is Wearing Masks and thats just for the window so i think its really nice that the doctors ability cuts and runs the practice shes bracing herself for a harsh corona winter with many more patients to deal with. Any time you want my advice i dont want to be a prophet of doom and gloom but the numbers are clearly going up we all want to prevent another lockdown so we dont want to have to close the schools again somehow weve got to get through this winter. To prepare for whats coming germany wants to set up more testing stations they would receive people running at a High Temperature or with other corona symptoms additionally the Public Health office which tracks infected people was promised more personnel but that has yet to materialize the staff that isnt has and the Quality Assurance have pledged to bolster the Health Authorities over the next 5 years this requires the creation of 5000 new jobs but now as october and november approach the jobs dont yet exist in the Health Offices this is a problem that urgently needs to be addressed. But instead of relying solely on Germanys Health care and tracking system doctor cuts its done would rather make testing at home possible. You mustnt give him up because you dont have to be given the chance to do a test without a doctor to go to the pharmacy and buy a test that they do not guarantee 100 percent accuracy and they provide an excellent indicator and youre absolutely adequate from an epidemiological point of view because. The swap test involves taking a sample between the nose and mouth it shows the result within 15 minutes without sending the sample to a laboratory in germany though only doctors and pharmacists are allowed to order them should infection start rising sharply in winter they might be an alternative to long lines in the cold. Or lets get you more on this i would like to welcome now andrew online a member of the German Parliament he is a health politician and an expert in Infectious Diseases himself a very warm welcome sir how worried are you about the rising infection rates in germany. Well im of course concerned the effects are in germany is rising and especially concerned about risk groups that might be affected by the infection and possibly even die from this kind of infection you just like to remind you in march of this year we had a nursery homes were elderly died a lot right now were somewhat lucky the infection rates are still low and the age of those infected are low as well putting them at a lower risk compared to the elderly that we had in the springtime nonetheless the numbers are already rising and winter hasnt even started yet has a German Government been doing enough to prepare for the winter season. Actually im not very happy how the preparations are for the 2nd infection wave that might be coming into germany specially i am concerned to get about the risk groups that are get severely ill have to go into the hospitals have to be on a ventilator or possibly even die where the risk of dying is pretty high i would have appreciated more stringent test strategy throughout germany looking at a more testing of those who are vulnerable if we do this on a regular basis break out could be caught very early on and also you mentioned very briefly on a schooling we could also test children with the socalled rapid test if we have those all those systems up and running the 2nd lockdown should not be an option here in our country but does germany have the capacity to test every Single School in the country well thats now what im asking for is usually if the children come into school or to kindergarten they are symptomatic and you cannot differentiate really between a common cold or even a flu or covert 19 and then you could send those children with their parents to a test station in a given city and they get a rapid test and within a half an hour they have a result and can either return back to the school or have to stay at home. Dr andrew oman thank you so very much for speaking to us greatly appreciate it thank you for having me and were going to turn now to a belgium that countrys government has been criticized for being slow to act the per capita death rate there is ranked 3rd in the world but some of that may be because belgium applies a broader definition of deaths caused by the virus which makes its number higher than in other countries but no matter how the statistics stack up every corona virus death is a human tragedy teri schultz meets with one belgian family looking to overcome the heartbreaking loss. The world has lost a 1000000 lives. One of them meant the world to 10 year old lorenzo my grandpa was the best his grampa luke picked him up from school each day and when it comes to we made it all merch and after that. We just played the couch and just did what we want to deal. Mostly i got snacks. But their hometown st truth was hit early and hard by the corona virus we had 53 people. Who had to enter the hospital and we only had bets for 20 people but luke was already hospitalized failing fast he said if i dont make it the police take good. He didnt make it on march 23rd luke became seen truants 1st corona death jeanine and their daughters nellie and elaine and lorenzo didnt even get to say goodbye now that really hot. But struck was really all. Mayor very hit and felt it personally her husband became critically ill but survived it was a terrible time for the families but also for us as a mayor but also all the people of my policemen and you know the people in the town who are working. 24 hours a day 6 months later same treatment has the infection rate under control with strict measures father room in and he says now inhabitants need to heal its important to share. With each other what we feel what we want or are and she thinks are the 2 but also or the good things they are here and decided to create a space for that a corner of a city park is now a memorial the theme forget me not plenty of those flower. As have been planted by city landscaper d. V. S. Summers long with a tree of life and a plaque bearing a poem in the heart of. The flowers will come so yeah even when its. It will be a little bit. Beautiful. For the memorials dedication september 13th lorenzo was asked to commemorate his beloved grandfather he told his mom he was too afraid to look at life there or they were again to laugh at me. But lorenzo changed his mind and wrote a letter even. To your grandpa i miss you very much i am mad about the corona mad about what happened the order bastogne always are going to be the best if you think. That i was brave and i was happy that i did it that i. Wrote l out. Please happy. Everyone wants. You to make grandpa. No one here will forget. Brave little boy that report by teri schultz and co 1000. 00 is also taking a heavy toll on the u. K. That european country has a record of the most deaths from the pentatonic thousands of University Students are being quarantined in their halls of residence because of a uptick in covert 900. 00 cases and our reporter alex force whiting joins me now here on the set this is not the start of the Academic Year that they were hoping for these young people now in austin for many of them this is the 1st time that theyve been theyve been away from home and although they knew that they were going to university in the middle of a pandemic the universities are trying. Very hard to make sure that they will be as safe as possible for these students to come and remember theres been a lot of pressure from political leaders to ensure that students actually got to university the problem though has been that there has been this uptick in corona the numbers of people getting corona many institutions around 32 across the whole of the u. K. For example at Glasgow University in scotland students have been told to self isolate theyve been told to stay in their rooms to not come out and to do online lectures and many of them havent been able to get food obviously because they cant go out so people have been delivering that food in some have been describing it as being rather like being in prison and not at that university but at all those there have been reports of security guards patrolling these halls of residence to make sure people are not leaving remember of course that in the u. K. People are paying thousands of pounds a year into issue fees also in rent theres a lot of pressure on those institutions to make sure they giving some of that money back some say they will others are saying they may not be able to afford it unless the government steps in and i like some of them are actually making the best out of a really terrible situation and yes i mean a lot of them dont know each other so theyre trying to make some fun theyve been some videos that for example students at the metropolitan university in manchester have been posting on for example tick tock we think it there is just a monday in life what are they getting up to in their little flats in these halls of residence well not much trying to make friends with people across the street in other buildings so a lot of fun there theyre having and as you can see here just trying to do what they can do bought a serious note of course in the u. K. Is that testing has been very difficult to come by people have not been able to get tests and certainly the results have not come quickly so that hasnt helped now the government. Just promised that students will be able to go home for christmas how when they have said that there may be the possibility that they will still have to self isolate before they can leave those residents to make sure that they are not spreading coronavirus when they go back to their homes for christmas i know its a good term a toll for many thousands of students across the u. K. Forswearing thank you so much for. One of the you know in the on the some of the other stories making news around the world. French police have dismantled a migrant camp in the northern port town of kelly the a makeshift camp who is home to about 800 migrants mostly from