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Expected to reaffirm israels right to defend itself and raise the need to minimize civilian debts as as well. Pounds goes up with more air strikes the unclear richardson. Thank you very much for joining us. German chancellor, olaf schultz, has become the 1st major world leader to visit as well, since how mazda is definitely a tax in a joint press conference with israels Prime Minister benjamin netanyahu. Chancellor sholtes, a warrant regional powers not to get involved militarily in the conflict, saying the war must not escalate and spread throughout the middle east. The chancellor also stressed what he called germanys special responsibility, to support israel. Following the nazi or a holocaust in which some 6000000 jews were murdered, it is rarely Prime Minister compared how mazda is terror attack to those crimes. 80 years ago. Ready people experience the worst savagery in the history of humanity with the nazi crimes against the jews. People on the saw. Ready of germany in europe, i must have it with my friends that the savage was that we witnessed, perpetrated by a mazda motor, is coming out of gaza. Was the worst crimes committed against jews since the holocaust. And here is what germany as chancellor had to say, this is the security of israel and its citizens is tim and the reason estates is im like the German Government acts according to this principle. And its supported and based by parliament across the party spectrum. I mean, it is important for me to stay this today in this difficult time in all clarity, jeremys history are historic responsibility originating from the holocaust and it makes the duty to protect the existence and security of israel. And so do you decide to start to see . So im switching. So lets talk more about this with the w as chief Political Editor, mikaela customer, who has been following that presser. Hi mckayla. Im both schultz and yahoo mentioning and invoking the holocaust that feels deeply important. Can you tell us what you made of their comments just now . If it was a historical moment, whatever comes next, here we see the country from to suffer the largest loss of jewish life since that total cost and, and the, todays tom stuff, the nation that with the package right, is that the whole, the cost of standing together against home us and it was a very striking power though from benjamin us and yahoo there that he basically referred to hamas as a new nazis as a reincarnation of the hispanic states, putting it into more contemporary of reference there. And a japanese response has been since thats attacked by him us, but this was now delivered in person by the germans cronsa, that the security of israel is germanys stats because all it is the fundamental principle of the german states. And, and this is something what ive sold as the 1st major lead to visiting here whats to breathe life into. Also by showing israel, that if it requires assistance, germany will be someone who looks at you know, whatever they need and will be needed to provide assistance as required. So weve got a small peek into what the 2 leaders spoke about before that press conference. Im schultz said that he spoke to netanyahu about how to get humanitarian aid to civilians and the besieged cause of strep, and that he was going to raise the topic with the egypt president as well. What she, what would you make of those comments . I think this gives us an idea of the coordinates of germanys role and as of a country that is keeping tiles of communication open with everyone and trying to into israels and it being safe by talking or to um it to lead us who can allow for humanitarian assistance because the major challenges actually to get humanitarian assistance into gaza. We so was the funder line the Youtube Commission present, announced that that would be flights of out of egypt into gaza. This is still very unclear how this would technically actually take place, but also the german chancellor, while assuring israel that it will sit, stand by its side and basically cooling on israel and to prevent unnecessary loss of life. Not in as many words, but by really drawing attention it to the humanitarian situation. That is basically provides the suffering that is taking place in gaza as we speak at this moment in time. Yeah. Now of course, theres been a lot of concern about regional spill over um from this conflicts, but i thought one thing that was noticeable for the fact that it wasnt mentioned in this press conference for the names of iran and has bla. Why do you think that they didnt bring them up here . Its interesting that the germans hostetter was not to pull them out of previously. Also that was a german french meeting between him and the model of my call and the amount of my call briefly a tweeted or ext, an a message that included the wrong it was been deleted. So it in here, you see in germany the europeans treading very cautiously, but he did clearly mean iran ad has blah out of lebanon. And the immediate threat, of course being has blood joining and turning this into a conflict where is well have to fight at 2 different fronts here. And that is something the german shots that was to help prevent. And thats also why we see him at travel on educating more than hinted at many calls that hes already made. So this was a hugely symbolic moment, a historic moment. Youve called it. Im curious if we know what kind of actual support is broken now expects from germany after this trip by schultz. Okay, well, quite clearly this, this pledge of political sup, thoughts of but what we do know is that germany lease to drones of, from israel, which were supposed to be transferred to germany at some point in time. They will now remain where they are. And that is a form of assistance then initially there was a request from the is ready for munition, for some of the navy ships. And theyve, since basically canceled that. And it seems that these release of rely much more on concrete assistance from the americans with whom they show sarah, lot more and defense systems. So that doesnt seem to be the case for now, but clearly we for the german concepts, say time and time again that he is checking in with him and this and you all the time and time again, or what assistance germany may provide that has already provided and medical equipment and medical materials so far. Well, thank you so much for bringing us up to speed there. That is indeed of use chief Political Editor mckayla customer. We really appreciate your time now us President Joe Biden is preparing to israel on wednesday earlier. We also know that the german chancellor, excuse me, the chancellor met with king abdulla in berlin. We know that the leaders there discussed which military and situation in the gaza strip. And also how to prevent further escalation between, as well as from us and casa, the jordanian leader also warned against Palestinian Refugees being pushed into egypt or gordon, calling this a red line and the door to the in king stress the need for aide to alleviate the suffering of civilians on both sides, but he said the humanitarian issue must be dealt with inside gaza and the west bank. That is a red line because i think that is a plan by certain of the usual suspects to try and create de facto issues on the ground. No refugees in jordan, no refugees in egypt. This is a situation of human turns i mentioned that has to be dealt inside of a guys that and, and, and the west bank not to try and push the palestinian challenge of that future on to other peoples shoulders, hamas, which the u. U. S. And some arab states label a terrorist group of ducted, nearly 200 people during their massacre and as well, the mother of one french is rarely hostage and now many desperate plea for her daughters release. I didnt know if shes there alive until yesterday. All i knew is that shes may, might be kidding up. Um im begging the world to bring my baby back home. She only went to a party to a festival, thought to, to have some fun. And now shes you guys a its, im drawing now by dw Senior International correspondent funding for char, from tel aviv. Funny. This has a very difficult position for israel, isnt it . How can israel ensure the safety of these hostages in gaza while it is also the bombing the territory . These roads facing issue which dilemma their aims is to outcome us minutes is the key thing. But at the same time, theyre confronted with the fact that a must a vast tunnel system youre talking about and on the ground city basically of see 100 can meet. So dont tunnels and the entrances to these tunnels. I close to schools close to hospitals in a very densely populated area and in that tunnel system, now im not only minutes in and the people with them, but also apparently also the hostages. And this is the dilemma that is royce facing now they did say that everyone can basically show leave the northern part of calls or to work to solve a full advocation basically. But that itself poses a huge danger for probably see me. And for the people who need to leave now, because once they are trying to eat that deluxe fuel to Little People are trying to leave from the north of the cells on foot. But once they get to the cell, what is going to happen to them . The only opening to the world that could become an opening is the russell Border Crossing with egypt, but that remains close. And yes, we do hear that the us and use while are talking about some will try to create so called saved still ones in the cells, but also trying to get it in. But at this point, theres nothing precise about these plans and things are getting worse, body l for the people, as the soaps own going. So urgently there is the, the, you and hes calling for a to get in. And obviously the people who are protesting here behind me, a calling for the really use of this hostages. Yes, as weve seen, its not just as rarely. There are also many foreigners among the hostages. What kind of role are foreign governments playing here and trying to secure their release . The 1st and foremost theyre coming here to israel to express is solely darcia. And at the same time, trying to gather some ecologist trying to get some information actually who in the region not only here in each row, but in other countries. Speed a control for example, surgery video, who in the region can help to negotiate become a militant and try to help relieve those hostages. For example, cuts are already offer the top very early on since october 7th, because obviously control our be one of the Main Financial back or a firm of smith and have a very close fall into context with, with, with the tires organization. The question is about whether, whether they will be able to help and release those hostages before a potential ground defensive thoughts or any offensive. Because as were hearing the one of the sports person of a i, the, if youre seeing now it doesnt necessarily actually have to be around defensive, it could be anything else. So there are a lot of things that are really, that remain unclear. So if it remains unclear what is happening exactly right now with those hostages that trap just like the policy of people in gaza strip and finding us present, joe biden, arriving in israel tomorrow. What can we expect from his trip to or you for of solidarity . You are solely dirty with israel, something that obviously your secretary of state by then, but also your secretary state blinking, excuse me, has a, as dawn on, his mealy store that keeps continuing as well as the us secretary or of, of, of defense has been here in east run as well, but also obviously that visit that expect to visit by president , abide and here in israel is another way to show the tourist making show that for example, the hist for the militants and live on on. But also the iran do not get involved to make sure they see a solution here, before the conflict may be widening in finding river protests where theyre behind with assign thing 1st, bring them home at referring to the hostages. Thank you so much for your reporting. Theyre in tel aviv, uh that is dw funding, such are out 2800. 00 people have died in the gaza strip, including dozens in the south where israel told civilians from the north it to go to take shelter. 8 workers, they the territories. Now on the verge of collapse, as it is running out of essentials. In time neighborhoods raise to rubble is really strikes. Continue to flatten buildings across garza, on the ground here and rough uh the scramble to rescue people trapped onto the day bri off to a recent strike. Demolished an apartment building, rushing the injured to hospital, and lining up the bodies of those killed outside the mood. Residents here say they have no way to go with no electricity, no volta, no internet, no, not peace, no milk. But even if we die from hunger, we will stay here and we will not leave. In 5 days, we witnessed bones full on houses, corpses in the street. We fled to the you and School Resource was safe, but they targets the data and people died. Thousands of people from across goes that have left the homes and headed south to rough uh, in recent days of to being told to evacuate by israel. Mediators have so far failed to negotiate a ceasefire that would allow foreigners to leave goza at the only pulled into egypt for many, it is a difficult wait. What becomes the boat of crossing every day . We contact the embassy every day, and they tell us to go to the crossing while we wait for up to 8 hours and then we go back up with you and he is dangerous when we want them to solve this problem so that we can travel off in and out of himself, according to us, secretary of state and me blinking america and israel have now agreed to develop a plan that would allow a to reach casa, working out. The details will likely take time. Time that is running out to the thousands of thousands quote in a growing humanitarian crisis from war. Im now joined by martin frank, a director of the World Food Program here in berlin. A thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us. We know there is a dire water shortage and goals are right now. But what about food . What kind of supplies are left and available for people as well . We estimate that the food stock in the gaza strip um the remains sufficient for a maximum of 2 weeks. So we already saw to to distribute the bread in the show because the number of people in about 90 shows is have tripled. And so far we have reached one to 1000 people with bread. So there is huge demand. Im curious, which parts of cause a your organization is able to access and which has been awful. And thats what we have been operating inside concepts for years. Remember that even before the war song to one 3rd of the population was already food and secure. So we do have people on the ground and at the same time, via stockpiling and in egypt near the border food because we expect refugees to come in. And as we speak, we have about 310 metric tons, free pad, thats about enough food for a quarter of a 1000000 people for one week. So that is food for people who when that Border Crossing, if that Border Crossing is open, when they cross into egypt or you will be there waiting for them. Absolutely, yes. So what needs to happen now for you, be you to be able to offer that aid . Well, we definitely need the order to be ok. We need safe passage for the people who want to leave casa. At the same time, we need safe passage for humanitarian workers to come in to distribute to madison and of course food. And at the same time, we believe that the essential infrastructure is not being um, such as the water pumping station or food installations or we have seen is that auto finance mills inside because of strip only one is still operational, but only 5 of 23 bakeries we have been working with us still operational. Well, thank you so much for joining us. To share your insights. There that is martin frank, director of the World Food Program here in berlin. Many, thanks for your time. Bring us President Joe Biden is preparing to head to israel on wednesday in meetings with the government. He is expected to reaffirm americas commitment to israel. Security will also discuss israels war aims and strategy, as well as the need to protect the lives of civilians and enable a to reach casa. And this comes, Israel Presses on with the air strikes and prepares for a Ground Invasion into the territory. Its 1st light and the extent of israels military build up on its full do with guns becomes clearer troops back to reggie as they prepare for a ground defensive. The codes begin at any moment. Over nights he is ready, Defense Forces continued the as strikes on the guns, a strip that targeting the militant islam is group. Hum us in retaliation for its deadly tara attacks on israel. This is, randy will ships have also been firing me . Sounds at garza from the sea, but the conflict is in danger of escalating farther. In the notes of his round troops, the vigilance close to the 11th and as well bolder as tensions between israel and the run back to minutes in group has bullet increase. Israel has released footage of strikes, targeting, what it claims is, minute treat infrastructure in lebanon, belonging to has beula, and it says it carriage asthma, attack almost. It described as a group of militants from lebanon, attempting to infiltrate the security fence. It was in the whole hand. The iran meanwhile, has raised the stakes for the by warning of a pre emptive attack against israel before leaving israel, us secretary of state antony, blinking said the us president s visit this week is also a warning president bible underscore are Crystal Clear message to any actor state or non state trying to take advantage of this crisis to attack israel. Dont. For now, though, garza already on defined weights for as well, and weld powers to take the next step. Lets get more from a geo political strategist. Im joined now by felina check. A roof or german chancellor, all of schultz in israel today, and we know us President Joe Biden is due to arrive on wednesday. What do you think they will be pushing for and how effective will they be . A thank you for the invitation. Well 1st of course the german chancellor is going to meet the ease ready leadership to show actually solely the original only on behalf of germany. But in general on behalf of the European Union member states. Uh they are uh german hostages. So he will also meet to a family. So for those who have been taken hostage. Um no, of course what is the most important from jermel perspective is going to be the discussion on show me that terry and 8 and preventing humanitarian catastrophe when it comes to the visit of the american president. Here of course we have a very, very different agenda which is more geo political one 1st and foremost, showing of course support, including military support. We the aircraft carriers uh uh, in the mediterranean, uh, which is to prevent any further escalation. But of course, right now, all the efforts are focused on preventing growing defensive, preventing actually another, lets say, a long lasting war where other key players in the region may see, actually on the sent is to get involved. The key word for your, of course, iran. So here, all of the american efforts, so right now are to, on the one hand, show of course uh, support. And so the very t a for the key partner in the region is route. But on the other hand, also to get engaged with all the relevant actors to also prevent the disk at this catastrophe from happening. Uh 30 important point is of course to also make sure that there will be so many terry and cory doors of for the posting and people right now. All the neighbors. Uh, the key neighbors that could actually take more refugees are um have close doors for different reasons. So, so edgy. Jordan, but we also have the situation in the north. We play been on where there is a risk of actually in another escalation and 2nd front. So a lot of problems on the agenda, a lot of issues and as i said, we still have, lets say, a good perspective for actually preventing this war from happening. Yeah. So how worried are you about potential spillover in the region . Then . Do you think that diplomacy can prevent it from becoming embroiled in a wider, more a well 1st and foremost from our perspective, this has been the most optimistic uh, complex, regional complex for most of the actors involved prior to a will to mass actually has conducted in terms of the most severe a terrorist attack on civilians in the, in the modern history, if hes ro. So before this attack, most of the actors in the region has been already engaging in various multi for set it to normalization processes and diplomatic economic. And so one ties, so in fact, nobody really wants a war right now. If we take a look at the agenda of most of the actors, even you wrong, whats engaging with saudi arabia on the one hand, think of the broker deal by china. But also we do not have to states and think of the potential for iran deal 2. 00. So even you wrong is not really incentivized to start to war. But right now were in a very delicate situation because of the skeleton we projection of this a conflict. And this is where some actors may see an incentive to further escalate. And this is what United States is trying to prevent right now. So all the key players, United States, china, and even russia dont want a war. Yes, we may argue russia would be interested in having some kind of military patients to draw the attention away from Eastern Europe and from ukraine. And then old original players on the ground, including israel has been actually working pro actively on normalizing correlation. So i still have, lets say more optimistic scenario for preventing the worst, which would be of course ground offensive. And then of course, we dont know for sure what the, cascading effects would be from a Ground Defense you saw. And in terms of documented there and disaster. Thank you so much for joining us with that. The geo political strategist of moving at check a roof or we really appreciate your time today. Thank you very much. You are watching dw news live from berlin before we go. Lets get a quick reminder of our top story at this hour. The german chancellor. Alas, schultz has helped talks with israels Prime Minister benjamin netanyahu, and assured him of support from germany. It is part of a round of middle east diplomacy over the conflict and because of strep at this hour, dont forget, there is more News Analysis on our website at www dot. Com and were also on social media are handled. 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