Well, on a larger scale, first of all, this aircraft is a preview of three modifications, this is a modification of the autonomous kamikaze , this is a modification of the autonomous bomber, and this is a modification of the controlled controlled by the bombers. At the moment, we have finished testing the first prototype of the first prototype of the first modification and the autonomous kamikaze, and now we are undergoing certification, this is also what i am asking for, said artem eh, ahead of me, eh. This is a very complicated procedure that requires a significant polyp , that is, it is easier because, eh, between the cartridge, too , 256th to 1256th resolution was adopted there. One procedure is adopted, it remains very difficult and complicated, it is archaean, they have not gone anywhere, they continue to use it, well, such a scoop use, artificial use, there is price adjustment, although it is absolutely rubbish. Now we will definitely try to restore the connection because it is interrupted we hear very clearly what vadim is saying, where or where, i repeat, he is now the main driver of the project called wings of revenge , which involves the creation of a new family of strike drones, this project was presented about a month and a half ago, he predicted to the ukrainian community, well, different versions of these unmanned systems. Vadim says that the tests of the first version are now underway. Well , the main question arises regarding the scaling of these samples, because one sample on the battlefield does not decide anything, a significant number decides, and it decides that the personnel was prepared to use this or that weapon, and then it really gives some effect on the field, or if it is not, then we understand what Point Initiative decisions are the situation on the battlefield is not affected, vadim, if we are listening now, i would like to say that for now our street is rerecruiting and i will say that actually now in ukraine there are about 40 companies that are starting to create uh, unmanned strike reconnaissance complexes, this is the second burst of initiatives of our enterprises because such a situation was just the first year of the war in the 14th year, then about 50 companies appeared that began to manufacture unmanned aerial systems, of those 50 companies, at first 30 remained there, then it decreased to 10, and this is just such a combat core 10 companies and now it is the main potential for the production of serial samples that are adopted into service, in particular , the company atlonavia, which manufactures the furia a1 complex, and the deviro company in the specialist field , these companies are now creating the main samples that are used with the armed forces and new projects are appearing, now we are in touch again with vadim kudachigov. Vadim would like to explain what stage the project is at now. You said that the ministry of defenses requirements for rkd to the documentation that this acts as a certain brake in order to speed up the entire process of testing. So far , we have purchased eight airplanes for the volunteer day and for the money. Well, my great gratitude to these companies that financed 8 aircraft and we will now hand over the 8 aircraft to each of the specialized structures that will be quietly used at their own discretion. What are the problems now . They are no longer so difficult for our drone manufacturers. This is the first level, these are procedural problems, the second is financial , the third is industrial, and the fourth is personnel. How would you prioritize these problems in the experience of your own company . What bothers you the most, the first is personnel problems. Yes, i agree. The most significant of all are the four problems, first of all, these are personnel problems, and i have already raised them at the government level, because currently we continue to order such professions as financiers and marketers with state funds at the moment we dont need them, we need designer engineers, electronics engineers, molders, millers. These are the specialties we need now and they dont have to study for years. At our company, the salary is somewhere around 40 thousand 3040 or even 50,000 uah, and we will not be able to find personnel who can work , so if suddenly someone hears me, contact the company and we will holding a competition the second problem these are really industrial problems and we, uh, well, not so long ago, we talked with the representative of the minister of technology. I really hope that in the near future we will have a meeting with the new minister and we will be able to discuss this problem and it concerns the state banks of ukraine do not lend to enterprises of the military sector. Here they are simply asking. What do you do . Defense is really an Electronic Technology company. Can we engage in the production of weapons . No, sorry, we do not lend to this, they tell me the state structure the state bank and here there is a certain dissonance, i cant afford to buy such equipment. Well, the high cost and equipment that i cant install on leased premises, because each machine that is there costs 100150 thousand dollars for just its arrangement, setting, etc. Goes somewhere there it is 1015 thousand dollars and if they will do it in a rented premises well, when they will raise my rent there, when i saw that i installed everything there, there was ventilation there , i changed the electricity there, what else will you say, well , dude, you just wont be 5. Pay a 10 and where are you in our actions, yes, and the state says, no, you had a contract for five dollars. Well, that s all. We leave you 5, and the rest you can find somewhere yourself and pay. Well, in general, these are general problems that we need, we need a solution specifically with the government on a different basis, because artem said we must create the conditions, but now the government says there we want to create some centers there, where business will come , organize some courses there, just create the conditions for us, dont bother, just dont bother, dont bother with your inspections, no get in the way with your ee, just ask there with the title of the nose, no your affairs, well, christmas treessticks, well, while you are stirring the fact that now it is necessary to systematize, at the moment it is necessary to collect all that is, that is all that the enterprise is able to produce, the state must buy all because now it is more tea it is purchased for volunteer money, a background that will be bought out should be created , even this is just a test, and some military unit likes it, we want to buy it. Production is in the future. The fact that they directed uah 40 billion for the purchase of drones, the fact that they removed these reductions are related to profitability , i. E. Now the margin is 25 for manufacturers of complex complexes, this indicates that the problems removed there are related to by purchasing components abroad, remove vat there on such things, these things, you felt at your company that this is an impetus to speed up the production of shock drones that you announced at the moment , i am filling out 36 protocols at the moment, i am completing rtm and experts to leave rkm anyway eta rkm well, i will simply explain what is rkm estimated costing materials it is the cost price of components plus the cost price of work on which i will be able to put 25 of the profit it is the stimulation of inefficient of production, that is, the more i wind up all kinds of money, damn it, rent and Something Else , that is, if i have a huge enterprise with a lot of expenses, my expenses will be, for example , 50 dollars for 100 . On which i will be able to put 25 of the profit, or is there no point in reducing my cost . Because if i reduce it, my profit will decrease accordingly. Any private company tries to optimize production as much as possible to reduce costs and always the first price in market relations temporal relations happens by comparing characteristics technical characteristics and price i always forgot the military question do you know eer rtm on samsung tv no you dont know it you come look at samsung, look at lg , look at panasonic, look at the wing there and choose yourself according to the technical characteristics of the pricequality ratio , mr. Volodymy. Well, i think that we, together with we will continue with you in the following programs, because you are now time is running out quickly. Thank you for the inclusion. Thank you for the work you do for the country. 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Pavlo. Congratulations, i am glad to see and hear you. Congratulations, mr. Sergey , it is very bad to hear you, but i guess that you are me introduced then i still wanted you to hear me better and i am up to date with you, literally in front of you, i had a conversation with artem the young man and vadyv kudachigov , who talked about the peculiarities of working with the ministry of defense in the young says that there is a need for more transparency and more dialogue regarding the formation of requirements for unmanned systems. Vadim kazachegov is more radical , he says that the ministry of defense or state customers should buy everything that private companies do so that you already understand what is needed and what is not needed and actually the accelerator of the ministry of defense is such a structure, a project structure that has been working for two months, set itself the goal of speeding up and Innovative Solutions for the ministry of defense and, er, removing the bureaucracy that exists today in relations between arms manufacturers and with the main the customer , what does your two months of work as the head of the project office indicate . What needs to be improved . And what is being done in this direction . Today, we believe that it is as close as possible to the people who are ready to use their developments, their knowledge, their skills to help the state with regard to specific Unmanned Aerial Vehicles. Codification then helps to make the right choice to the representatives of the general staff who actually order and determine the need and urgent need for Unmanned Aerial Vehicles and other own ukrainian and foreignmade weapons, which must be purchased from the state budget, actually such a system has been established, we believe that with regard to Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, it is as close as possible and open in order to cooperate with business business ee as far as i feel and see his contacts daily contacts e e understands this procedure , uses this procedure and passes the codification as soon as possible regarding ee the purchase itself, then the purchase is carried out i have already repeated many times not only for money of the ministry of defense and other items of state Budget Expenditures and these opportunities to purchase more quickly, to supply the front with the need for one or another weaponry. I believe that the ministry of defense fulfills the quality of ee. And when we talk about the fact that the Developers Want to see a certain perspective regarding the what exactly does the armed forces need to somehow adapt to these oriented ee requirements, how should one act here so that the dialogue , as i understand it, between the general staff of the ministry of defense and the developer was so much more lively, more transparent, more productive , first and foremost, it is easiest to join the work and activities of the ministry of defense accelerator. You attended a meeting with robotics, you saw the interests and interest of the market of entrepreneurs who want , want and understand what they can offer in return, the general staff adjusts these needs in accordance with modern of the requirements of the war, of course we wanted to see a workedout plan for the transition to robotic ee units, but this is rather a dream of ours for the time being, but it will be a reality in the very near future , we are doing everything for this, contact with business has been established and in those 45 days that we codification, we invest and are waiting for new developers, new teams that will join the creation of a modern ukrainian army, a robotic army. Once again, we are open to communication with the daily regime, please join in. If you have proposals for the elimination of any bureaucratic obstacles, we are ready to assist you at all levels, including the minister of defense , and uh, the question arises that somehow it is necessary to saturate your or our personnel filorator, which exists in the ministry of defense, what are the optimal formats for interaction with creative youth and the accelerator, where is this interaction platform, how to offer your services , how to get in touch with you, how to ensure this interaction so that people who have ideas really work for the ministry of defense, the ee accelerator is not the only body that offers developers and manufacturers of ukrainian weapons to participate in events, there are also events that are held by ee under ivan and together with him figures , we are also participants in these events , the sequence of those events that we announce and the involvement of as many people from the market as possible who want to be involved in the activities of the accelerator, we make direct contact with manufacturers if we find someone and i forgot, sorry, there is an accelerator site, type write to us about the fact that we forgot you and we will definitely include you in the next events and in the accelerator newsletters , and i think that everyone has the opportunity to register for both fsu and braven, apply in online mode on the accelerator is available in all of them, so please contact our website , write an application, write your complaint, if we have missed something somewhere, and we will definitely respond to your proposals and applications online. And when we talk about financing individual projects or the search for funds from foreign partners, er, as i heard the deputy minister of defense gavrilo talking about the fact that such opportunities exist, are there any examples . You saw that the number of registered codified ee robotic systems, in particular, was considered. The commission had all those applications that arrived and were properly processed and were considered. Things, but the fact that this process is established, and the relevant management departments and departments of the ministry of defense process these documents in a timely manner, that is how you can submit applications for International Funding through brivan and fcq, you can also write to us about help in completing such an application, so all applications that come through our site are processed in a fairly short period of time and proper help is provided from the developers, i say once again if we forgot or missed someone somewhere or did not include them in the activities, please join for this, there are all possibilities, but thank you very much for your explanations, we will continue to support the accelerators of the ministry of defense to our customers. Developments that have a high level of technical readiness, what is in the format of a startup this is actually one in imming numbers and the solutions there are already ready for use the ministry of Defense Office is an accelerator of the ministry of defense. So, what conclusions can be drawn that our enterprises actually have the ability to increase and scale the production of drones for various purposes , the problems of ee planning remain those that need to be solved, funding also needs to be increased. Well, the main thing is to establish a dialogue between the platform manufacturers themselves and the customer and this dialogue should be so promising that our developers know exactly what weapons our armed forces need in the joints and spine, osteochondrosis, gout radiculitis, arthritis and arthrosis, with all these problems , you will find dicrasin, a means for external use, consultations by phone 0800215 349, calls are free. 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