Warrior, but not a state one. Then they decided to give him to those structures that destroy more than build the state, and just for the ssso, he came, and when from the position of commander, and svyatoslav to fight not only on ukrainian territory, so here i am going, i am going in the very, very right direction, yes, this is very important, these are the moments that start to work when the question is, what should we do . To do with Nestor Ivanovich makhn, that is, here the question is also for vyatrovich, where we can fit him in, and in general, whether he fits in at all, how he is perceived, for example, by our military, he fits in, i will answer right away, he fits into the Ukrainian Military history, but it is not the history of the Ukrainian Army, it is not the history of the armed forces of ukraine, we have to study it as a page of military operations, which from. On the territory of ukraine, we have to take its experience, but we have to clearly understand that this person never fought for ukraine statehood, and has always been in alliance with soviet russia and is a knight of two orders of the combat red banner. I finish the report. Yes, but not only that, i would like some kind of National Formation that will be created on the territory of the Russian Federation named after nestor makhno. For the Russian Federation , we have many interesting names that can be assigned to vlasov. They have their own, their own traditions, as far as the ssso is concerned, when the commander of the Third Regiment left his post for promotion, the soldiers presented him with a sword, an exact copy of svyatoslavs sword, which was found, now this sword is used for ceremonial purposes, it is used, it passed, the oath in the cold yar, on the haydomas pond, it passed the oath in khortytsia and there was a ceremony in olevsk. That is, at the moment, he is pulling on himself, the karmic elements, and now it is already , there was another public event, it was used to dedicate the lyceum students of the volyn lyceum with reinforced military and physical, and if we take, for example, tradition, what tradition was used when using this, well , ritual sword, that is, the ritual cannot arise in an empty place, and here they have already invented . Well, its real, its about what we have to say, that we are currently forming a lot of traditions, because you cant drag the traditions of the 17th century, you cant drag the traditions of russia, you cant even drag the traditions of upa, well, them and there is no need to drag it out, they just need to be filled with new meanings, and if we are already talking about the ukrainian rebel army, then in order not to prepare, not to say that the armed forces there were not preparing at all to repel aggression, in principle, already in december it was clear that something would happen, and in december of the 21st year, the commanderinchief of the armed forces of ukraine approved his own system, his own awards, and this system of awards, it is a compilation of three traditions of awards, well, awards are very clearly traced there upa in fact, this is a copy of khasevychs awards, this is bravery, this is a gold cross, this is a silver cross, the only thing is that elements were added to them that allow, well , to determine their rank and status, a part of the tradition of the army of the ukrainian peoples republic was also included, this is the highest award the cross of merit, it was also completely restored, and several signs from. were added, which already combined the tradition, for example, of the grand duchy of lithuania, which fell to us, this is a steel cross that completely imitates divers. The combination of kostiantyn ostrodskyis pirnychi and his birthmark, i. E. Again in this, in these awards, those meanings where there was a struggle against a specific enemy, a struggle in specific, not always favorable conditions, and the last one, so as not to delay, are also a favorite topic about ukrainian nazism , this is the tenth separate one mountain storming. Again, this is a story of once, twice, six years, also six years , it was very difficult, there were very, very many disagreements, but at all levels, that is, both yes and no, and historians argued, that is, so that you understood that each assignment of an honorary title is sometimes a small, sometimes very thorough Historical Research and understanding of the meanings that we can extract from them, and here there is already a combination with the World Military tradition, because the symbol of the brigade is a typical symbol of mountainous noise parts in all over the world, and when they wrote a historical certificate for the signature of the president , it was necessary to somehow explain it, and in principle it took a very long time, for good, on the sleeve badge there are Three Mountains, between them two they stopped and there is a flower, and accordingly sat down, thought, so yes, one mountain is tsemakivka, one mountain is lysonya, the Third Mountain is a shovel, Three Mountains where the largest, most significant battles on the mountains of the ukrainian vii took place in the 20th century, and two passes are uzhotsk and veretsky, thats all, but what is this, but to cover these mountains with the blood of ukrainian fighters, and on this blood squirrels grew up, well, with a squirrel it is very difficult to come up with a name, so they decided to let it be edelweiss. Edelweiss and takrigada became edelweiss. But its six years. Therefore, when especially volunteers will be asked to assign an honorary title, understand that it sometimes takes a very long time. Ugh. Thank you. Thank you, mr. Vasyl. We understand that this is an extremely interesting and important excursion. A thorough conversation could take several hours, extremely important things, some things we simply will not touch now, because otherwise we we will just fall out of our format, yes, but the formation of the Ukrainian Military tradition is also extremely important, because the symbolism, starting from the tattoo, ending with, i dont know, the banners or flags of the combat units, it is also extremely important, and here you have to be wise and at the same time you have to to be symbolic, i. E. To be strong, volodymyr skorostek is with us. Colonel of the armed forces of ukraine, well, i would like to ask you one more question, mr. Colonel, as a military correspondent, you know what military units live, what fighters live, from scratch, so to speak to speak to the rear, and if we talk about military traditions, then we understand that there is a facade part, there is an official part, there is still an unofficial part, that is, people who realize themselves in a certain symbolism, in particular during battles, and there are certain rituals are also new. Ukrainian, actually, if we are talking about the moment of the largescale invasion, the invaders, in february 2022, and the growth , such an impetus to the growth, of the number of the armed forces of ukraine, this is the formation of new brigades, uh, this is the formation of units from scratch, where people come are completely different, that is, we are not only talking about. The backbone of which is made up of military personnel, contract workers, officers with many years of service experience, but also completely people from civilian life who have a very different background, that is, they are also representatives of working professions, managers, creative the class that unites them, well, first of all, among such unifying factors, i would name the desire to simply tear off a few muscovites, in each of them ukrainians have their own account and in order to unite, lets say, from the crowd to make combat unit, of course, we introduce certain martial traditions there, each part forms its own, well, as my colleague , speaking before this, mr. Pavlov, correctly observed, that really, a lot depends on what kind of appearance we have and what is behind the name, which is worn by this or that unit. In fact, i have repeatedly witnessed when. The guys are discussing whether i am from such and such a unit named after roman the great, and this is such and such a brigade, no, this is the brigade named after roman the great, the princely brigade, that is, it is already the release of merchs own symbolism, uh, yes so to speak, this hoody shirts, and so on, and traditions that are really related to combat, actions, specific battles, er, certain distinctions are created within the military unit, well, it depends entirely on the imagination, as the guys say, well, its cold prize weapons, and some rings with which commanders mark their boys in a little more detail, vladimir, well, a little more in detail, that is, there is a need, well, every military man needs cold weapons there, more than people. One way or another, it is needed at the front and therefore the commander actively exploits this path, that is, it gave a boost to our blade production inside ukraine, if you visit certain specialized forums on the internet there , you can see that there is no shortage of good knives, and teams simply make a gift inscription, hand it to a specific person, there is marriage in battle, there is also that, well and as far as i know, what is being considered now. The question of the introduction, actually, of cold weapons, as junior insignia, of the ranks for soldiers, for soldiers, sergeants and junior officers, as it used to be, that is, whether they are knives or daggers, or what, depending on situation, just here i will add very quickly, if it is an ordinary noncommissioned officer, then it is usually a niche, well, it is just a world tradition, if it is officers of certain branches of the military, primarily aviation or the navy, it will still be a short story, but for of other structures, there are designated firearms, and there are options, now there are handles for each of the structures, their own, lets say, ceremonial weapons that can be used, because , for example, they had time to change before the war, honor guards. The president ial regiment was already given ukrainian sabers instead of checkers of the 1930 model year, that is, such elements too. Thank you, and actually, going back to the question you asked, i want to correct it a little and talk about the fact that now our armed forces are entering a period when there is a need for recognition abroad, i will give a simple example, i was driving here to ivanofrankivsk to participate in the uniform. In the same compartment with two businessmen from korea, south korea, they are urban planners, they traveled from kyiv to ivanofrankivsk, where they will be engaged in the construction of smart cities, and i was very actively interested, having learned that i military, military journalist, they were very actively interested in what the military lives in, in general, what to read about, our war, our history, well, of course, it was a targeted question, i picked it up for them right away. Books that can and should be read, including fiction books, which not only in an academic context reveal the essence of our history, military traditions, but also show that the ukrainian uniform pixel mm14 is worn by a person, a person who got into, perhaps in very extreme and serious tests, however, she did not lose her warm heart, to discover. That soul and everything that makes us ukrainians, i am very pleased that there are people here today in the hall, artemiy kersanov and serhii dzyuba, who helped our Ukrainian Army to be recognized abroad , these are the people who created the script of the film called banderas, which were watched with pleasure by our American Military colleagues, employees of the military training mission, we, thanks to the authors, received a copy with english subtitles, and well, we arranged about 10 sessions, i will tell you, if you research this topic even more, now there is a great demand abroad for Ukrainian Military equipment, for Ukrainian Military symbols, for perhaps some such, very pointspecific. Things that are in in use by ukrainian soldiers, the same knives, that is, if you can buy it from us for the same money, then a knife with the symbols of the 92nd brigade there, it increases at auctions abroad many times, well, actually, this is an opportunity for our volunteers to spend , quality fees abroad. I will say one more thing, representative the function of our servicemen abroad, those undergoing treatment and rehabilitation. It so happened that in the spring of 2022 my colleague, a good friend. He was wounded near kharkov and his leg was severed by a mortar mine fragment , he returned to the service, he is now serving as part of the Central Television and radio studio, the ministry of defense, he continues to be a military correspondent, cameraman, he received prosthetics and underwent rehabilitation in michigan in the United States of america, and he showed a video where he held meetings with the local community, precisely, there is a large ukrainian diaspora there, and it actually lives, a living story, a living story of a participant, it has a Strong Influence on how foreigners, even our friends abroad, sometimes change, they simply immerse themselves in the issues, that is, we need , strengthen our informational presence in and talk about what we are doing now, thank you, thank you, volodymyr skorostetskyi, colonel of the armed forces of ukraine, military correspondent, time is gradually coming to an end, we have certain moments that have not yet been fully reflected on, i wanted i would like to briefly, just literally briefly, before giving the floor to maria makivnychuk, to ask to what extent we use the ukrainian tradition of simon petlyuras time and how it was formed then, that is, in those times when. ukrainian regular army, that is, in particular, it is about symbolism certain if we talk about the traditions of the army of the ukrainian peoples republic, especially from the time of petlyura, then it is used as much as possible, because the main insignia on the sleeve is a trident in various colors, it is completely copied the trident of the army of the ukrainian peoples republic, there is a photo of Simon Petliura in vinnytsia, where this trident is very clearly visible. That is, it is processed, stylized, and worn in the same way, the parade uniform, it is a modernized version of the uniform of the army of the ukrainian peoples republic of the 19th20th centuries, er, that is, it is already made in a modern design, in modern materials, er, as well some elements, fittings are used, an element is used. Well, lets even say so, honorable mentions, for example, the same 72 separately mechanized in the name of the black zaporozhians, in fact their patron is the second cavalry regiment of the black zaporozhians of the army of the ukrainian peoples republic, as well as 110 separately mechanized in the name of marko bezruchka, the patron is general hrundja the army officer, marko bez and so on, that is, this tradition is used, it is interesting that this symbolism. In peetlys army, the army of the ukrainian peoples republic, it was also partly based on the cossack tradition, and the cossack tradition was partly based on the russian tradition, so we have a real otaku chain from the time of russia to today and it is very good that it is built, and i would like to add one more remark, actually , when we talk about the popularization of our army abroad, precisely in communication with foreigners, they know the names of our brigades and this gives an impetus. To tell us about the true historical durability, that is, considering the same black zaporozhians, everyone knows very well about the exploits of the 72nd separate mechanized brigade and their patch with a skull and a black coat, and from there we start off from the fact that yes, but read more grace about those who was to them, ugh, thank you, and one more moment , a colleague mentioned, this is recognition abroad, and this is precisely the understanding that some moments. Play for a long time, everyone remembers the story with the Airborne Assault troops by changing the beret, the beret was changed inside them, well, the beating still continued, people got used to it, people acquired a tradition, but everything ended at once in september 2020 , i. E. Three years later, when the 79th, our Amphibious Assault and the first separate landing took place on sherlan parachute stick, which is the first in the world put on the maroon burettes and when they, they jumped in together and there was a handshake and the colors came together, then there was just a call, i ll skip the first word, now we got it, now it worked, and one more moment to give our volunteers the floor, i want to note that all this new symbolism would be absolutely impossible without the powerful volunteer project of the new army group , which in 2015 began the development of a huge brand book, which began with historical traditions, ended with how long the seam should be, what the threads should be, what should be there the height of the sole, and this volunteer work, it was handed over to the state for a symbolic sum of 1 hryvnia, that is, it was a completely real volunteer project, and now, a lot of what is then approved by the state, it begins among volunteers, thank you to our tv viewers, i want to remind that they are now watching the Panel Discussion within the viakarpattia forum strong with the experience of the ancestors of the participants vasyl pavlov, volodymyr skorostetskyi, Volodymyr Vyatrovych and maria makivnychuk, i would like to take this opportunity to thank those structures that helped us to organize work at this years viakartya forum, so thank you, the forum is being held with the Financial Support of the Ukrainian Cultural foundation, we thank the Ukrainian Cultural foundation and those who created it at the time, the international revival fund for all the help, and of course the literary and artistic meeting was supported by the word in the war financially, the Ukrainian Institute of the book, we thank the institute of the book and thank those who created it, well, what about maria makivnychuk, volunteers who help the Ukrainian Army and there is also a certain very clear ukrainian, a peculiarly ukrainian volunteer tradition, i think that such meetings and such discussion panels in the vaya carpathians should be held for two hours, because there is a museum of the upa hideout of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army at the top of the fatherland, and now interest in these things has increased a lot museum, because people are interested in how the Ukrainian Insurgent Army once fought, regarding our family, you can say that both my relatives and my greatgrandfather. Vasyl shakiryak and andriy makivnychuk, they fought in the ukrainian galician army, mine too, well grandfather, brother, and sister also fought in the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, the ukrainian people have always helped the army, as well as the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, volunteers also help now, ukrainians in the east, thanks to volunteers, our army receives military support, vehicles , food, and others, extremely important means that we need now , mr. Vasyl mentioned the 10mountain assault brigade edelweiss, and i remembered how i saw how our soldiers danced, danced the arkan dance, very much and also talked about the fact that it is necessary to spread information very much ours. To spread information about our army, on foreign policy, on foreign countries, as well as domestic ones, also a wonderful film has now been released , a voice that can be talked about and told about how, how the tradition of defending ukraine and its defense took place, and dovbush, as a symbol of such a struggle, defended ukraine , hutsuls, he protected hutsuls, yes, some he protected, and some he motivated to share, so to speak. Certain property, yes, and thats why experts, military, those who now they are helping those who work, respectively, but the ukrainian people are very , very uh, the ukrainian people are very rich, that is, there are a lot of different traditions, but at one time there was a hutsul unit, yes, that is, it seems, a hutsul regiment, it was called, thats what im interested in , for example, of the marine corps, so it sounds strange, but it is true, but i would still like to say about the traditions of ukrainian volunteering, it is incredible, strongly, that it is being revived, because we perfectly understand that volunteering, if possible so to call ukrainian times of the rebel army was forced, there was no other state that could provide this army, now it would seem, well, there is a state and it is obvious that some reproaches can be heard from someone, well, let the state provide, that is. And it unfortunately sounds like that, but in fact, volunteering is an incredibly important tool for integrating the entire society into the defense of the country, everyone who supports. The army is included in this process, that is, here it is not only about material support, it is about inclusion in the process of defense of the country, and this extremely important, this actually turns us into a kind of unified society , both those who hold weapons in their hands and those who provide for those who hold weapons in their hands, if its just to address the state, let the state deal with it, thats it its duty, it is obvious that now the system is fixed, the state will cope , but unfortunately, there will be a lack of this understanding, this social unity, which is now extremely necessary, so it seems to me that this tradition of volunteerism, which has now survived in ukraine , it must be obeyed, and here, on the contrary, the state should have to help in this, to eliminate a lot of unnecessary obstacles that appear, it is not that the old ones are not eliminated, sometimes new ones appear, that is , it is not a competition, they are so tense now, because new initiatives are appearing, such as humanitarian aid, which will import into ukraine and a bunch of other nonsense that will not actually give anything to the state. But they will cut off peoples ability to help their armed forces, this absolutely cannot be done, it is not only a violation of ukrainian tradition, but it is really something that can make us weaker. Yes, we literally have two minutes left, well, i would like to ask mr. Pavlov , briefly, yes, when we talk , for example, about the return of external paraphernalia, we understand that there were extremely beautiful external paraphernalia of the ukrainian sich riflemen, so we understand that, well, mazepinka its already legendary , some kind of legendary. I dont know how the adjustment of the same parade uniform is going on now , lets talk about the fact that the mazepinka is now the official, headdress of the field uniform, field uniform of the armed forces of ukraine, this is an official element, but here another question arises, that for many reasons it cannot enter, the most primitive, in ukraine it simply cannot be sewn up normally, uh, well. But where they join, or, say, volunteers, or private entrepreneurs and stitch it as it should be, they just take patterns, go to vienna , remove the eightbladed knife that is in the vienna museum, sew it up, make patterns, and it fits like a cast, that is , again, there is one more point , about which, it will still be more than five hours of conversation, this aesthetics and style. That is, yesterday there was such a very interesting passage about whether there is ukrainian culture, whether it is rural or urban, so here is the Ukrainian Military tradition, and Ukrainian Military culture, it has always been at the highest level, unfortunately we got carried away, time ran out, an extremely interesting dynamic panel, thank you, vasyl pavlo, volodymyr skorostetskyi, volodymyrovych and maria makhivnychuk, i pass the floor to my colleagues, watch the espresso channel for more. We summarize the informative morning in ukraine in khrystyna porobiy works in the news studio. The occupiers launched an airstrike on a Critical Infrastructure facility in kherson. Previously, they dropped two guided aerial bombs. The head of the kherson city military administration, Roman Mrochko , reports that the enemy attacked around 10 am with a difference of 30 minutes. After the powerful explosion, water supply was interrupted. Electricity went out in some areas of the city. At night , the russians attacked zaporozhye. Three rockets