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About Border Security . Well hear from homeland secretary kristen nile send along with former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee and President Trump getting set for his first state of the Union Address what does his party want to hear from his speech ill talk with House Republican conference chair Kathy Mcmorris rogers right now as we look ahead on sunday morning futures. And first up newlyrecovered Text Messages show antitrump sentiment from two fbi officials once tied to Robert Muellers russia investigation the Justice Department recovering thousands of missing messages between fbi agent peter strzok and his lover fbi attorney lisa page. The two spoke of a secret society within the Justice Department and the fbi one day after President Trumps election , strzok and page also talked about treating Hillary Clinton with kid gloves during a probe of her private email server in case she won the election. Joining me right now is chairman of the House Judiciary Committee , congressman Bob Goodlatte of virginia. Congressman good to see you. Thanks maria. Maria thank you so much for joining us. What bothers people out there is you have to be able to trust your fbi, your cia, your irs, because there is a thing called the rule of law and what weve learned from some of these Text Messages is that theres a whole lot of bias and corruption going on at the top. Tell us what youve learned . Its important to emphasize there are tens of thousands of great men and women whoever are day keep us safe, prevent terrorists attacks, solve crimes at the fbi but theyre by several people in the leadership of the fbi that have a shocking contrast in the way they took the approach they took to the clinton investigation and the one theyve taken to the trump investigation and it is stunning the more we see of these texts the more concerning it is and hats off to the Inspector General at the department of justice who had these texts that were missing for five months and has figured out how to get access to them which he has now made available back to the fbi and we already last week request ed them and we requested them unredacted because its very clear that as information is being put out, it is people that are involved in the investigation that are determining what the congress and ultimately the American People should see, so weve asked for these documents un redacted so that we can make the judgment ourselves what is pertinent to this investigation and what is not. Maria do you think youll get them . I do believe well get them and i must say the department of justice has cooperated far more than the Prior Department did and we have these Text Messages and we have seen the underlying documentation that relates to the fisa application to the fisa court. All these things are very important to putting this together but this investigation has to go forward. Well continue to interview key people in the department of justice and the fbi to get to the truth. Maria so lets talk about the truth an what we know so far and youre right a big hats off to the Inspector General. We would not have known before the Inspector General that for example, these two were talking about a socalled insurance policy. Should donald trump win the election, and he did and in your view is that insurance policy this whole insure aid of an investigation between Robert Mueller and others looking at this potential collusion between trump and the russians which of course the democrats started talking about right after he won we dont know and im not going to draw conclusions until i have all of the facts, but it is alarming that in the latest batch of texts that we have received and examined, the same two people go on and talk about a secret society that is clearly engaged in trying to alter the course of investigations and in fact possibly alter the course of an election and alter the course of a presidency. It is very concerning. Maria after the election, they talked about the secret society. Did they also talk about destroy ing evidence . Im told there are some texts that havent been released yet about weve got to get our handson the hard drive or get our handson the thumb drive. Well theres certainly a lot of questions about things we do know about with regard to the earlier investigation led by former director comey where evidence was destroyed before anybody outside of the fbi could get a look at it and including evidence destroyed by people working for the democratic president ial candidate. Maria but youre being stonewalled. Youve been stonewalled since august when you first started making inquiries about this so you say you want these Text Messages from the fbi you want them unredacted are you getting stonewalled again . I think this administration is cooperating with us more because we have lots of information and have had access to lots of classified information that we have not had from the Prior Administration so were making substantial progress. We still have a long way to go to get out all the facts and get to the truth but that work is being conducted by the Judiciary Committee which i chair and the oversight Government Forum committee and were going to get at it. Maria trey gowdy joined us a couple weeks ago to go through this and one of the big issues for the American People is what are they hiding . Why not just give us these texts , why not just release this memo . What do you think . Well for a long time theyve said were waiting on the report of the Inspector General and we are too and we think the Inspector General is doing good work and we expect his report in the not too distant future but we have got to continue to pursue this investigation because the Inspector General has one responsibility that congress has another responsibility to the American People. Maria and yet the Robert Mueller investigation keeps on and we dont really know where that is what is he looking at the special counsel and do you think you need a special counsel specifically just to be looking at this bias at the top of the fbi . Well months ago i called for and most of the other members of the House Judiciary Committee on the republican side called for the department of justice to appoint a Second Special counsel to look at how matters were conducted last year with regard to former fbi director comey, former attorney general lynch and all the thins that swirled around that investigation. Now, with the page strzok texts were seeing things blend together in one long continum with two of them at or near the center of what was going on at the fbi. You need to find that out. Maria well they were at the center of whats going on and completely bias and then put on Robert Muellers Investigative Team to look at trump and the potential collusion so obviously theyve been taken off that but how are we supposed to trust Robert Mueller this investigation is on the up and up . At the end of the day the American People have to judge based upon whatever actions he takes whatever report he files. Well look at that but well look at it from the lens of what is true that we know from other facts are going at the same time he should continue his investigation but it has to be done with pro pry it and it has to be done with impartiality and there are a lot of questions that are not answered at this point. Maria i understand that congressman but how long can something go on with no evidence of any cruz . Weve been waiting since the Democratic National convention. I remember i saw it all unfold in person when i was at the Dnc Convention and Debbie Wasserman schultz was pushed out because it became clear to everybody they locked out Bernie Sanders and they were all in the tank for hillary so shes pushed out after her emails were revealed and it was her conference that was the huge story that Democratic National convention the leader of the whole convention is pushed out we talked about that for about three seconds and immediately all the dems got in line to talk about this potential collusion. When is bob mueller going to give us okay here is what i know so far or does this keep going on and on . He needs to do it soon because his credibility is on the line and look at it. From this point, maria, the president of the United States and the white house have been unbelievably cooperative in this , turning over thousands and thousands of paged of documents making many many people in the white house available as witnesses and this is the leader of this country who has to get about other business on be half the country and he needs to have this resolved and he said so many times. Maria bottom line let me ask you about accountability here. Do you believe that if we were to see that there was real moves to obstruct justice, get rid of thumb drives, hide evidence, and just basically rally around Hillary Clinton and try your hardest to paint donald trump in a corner are there going to be in dyements . Are we going to see people go to jail . Well thats where a special counsel comes in because of the fact that neither the Inspector General nor the congress can indict people. We do not have prosecuting authority, but if this continues along the lines that it is where there are a lot of questions, where theres an intersection of Public Information and classified information, you have to have someone who not only can investigate but also can take action on their investigation involvement so thats why i have for many months called for a special counsel on the other part of this, the clinton side of this, and were continuing to do our own investigation and well continue to press forward. Maria by the way we never heard any conclusion to the elon brothers and it guys who were paid all that money and ended up hacking into computers they should not have accessed so theres no accountability at the end of the day, right . Well there is a serious problem with leadership at the federal bureau of investigation and it is very concerning. Maria well leave it there congressman while be watching your work on this and the developments. Thanks maria. Maria thank you so much Bob Goodlatte joining us President Trump putting out his immigration and Border Security plan but is the proposal already dead on arrival in congress . Governor Mike Huckabee will talk about the new numbers being talked about for an infrastructure package. Follow me on twitter at Maria Bartiromo sunday morning futures well be right back. Let your inner light loose with one a day womens. A complete multivitamin specially formulated with key Nutrients Plus vitamin d for bone health support. Your one a day is showing. Ive got to tell you something its not going to be easy. Quicksilver earns you unlimited 1. 5 cash back on every purchase, everywhere. Actually, thats super easy. My bad. Like you do sometimes, grandpa . And puffed. Well, when you have copd, it can be hard to breathe. It can be hard to get air out, which can make it hard to get air in. So i talked to my doctor. She said. Symbicort could help you breathe better, starting within 5 minutes. 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Maria welcome back President Trump slamming democrats this morning for opposing his new immigration plan. The proposal provides a pathway to citizenship for dreamers but Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer is already rejecting it. President trump tweeted out this democrats do not want to solve daca. Only use it. Democrats are not interested in border safety and security or in the funding and rebuilding of our military. Theyre only interested in obstruction. Lets bring in Fox News Contributor former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee. Governor always a pleasure good to see you. Governor thank you very much maria great to be here ill try not to obstruct the discussion today so here we go. Maria youd think that once the president gave a bit of an olive branch saying look lets get together on daca here is one proposal you would think that that would have sort of sparked new conversations and a new ability to see something getting done but Chuck Schumer is saying no way. Governor the president didnt give an olive branch but a grove of olive trees and this is way more than anyone expected he would first lay on the table more than double the number of daca recipients. If this were about daca, Chuck Schumer would have tried but he would have cried tears of delight and he would have gone and hugged donald trump around the legs and said thank you so much. This is amazing lets Work Together lets get this done but instead, he throws out the same old stuff and this time, its so irrational that it becomes laugh able. When he says things as does pelosi that this is racist, that is to make America White again, when over 95 of the people who would be affected are nonwhite, it just shows that this is an irrational, illogical and insane reaction to what the president is trying to do to move america forward. Maria i mean i guess at some point the American People are going to want answers number one , why did the democrats vote against the tax plan and now that we see the early impact and its pretty good, with Companies Giving out 1000 bonus checks acrosstheboard more than 200 companies saying were going to do something for employees and customers as a result of the tax savings so they will want answers in terms of why the democrats voted against the tax plan and number two why they shut the government down. Is this actually going to come up and bite them come 2018 or do you still feel theres a feeling the republicans lose the majority . I think the democrats are going to takeaway what should be an advantage in a midterm and theyre going to hand it back to the republicans. The democrats theme for this years election is going to be who are you going to leave, democrats error your lying eyes because the fact is when they get better paychecks they see that the president has put more on the table than they ever thought hes actually trying to end this but he wants to do it with the caveat of protecting the American People with Border Security, ending this whole ridiculous visa lottery which amounts to Willie Wonkas Golden Ticket and to have some end to the unlimited amount of immigration those are things over 80 of the American People say gee thats reasonable we support that. I dont into what theyre having a problem with. Maria visa lottery is incredible. Let me ask you about the state of the union because this is one of the key topics, immigration the president will sell this immigration plan in the state of the union were told but you know, governor, the cost is really being debated fiercely. First we thought it was 1 trillion now were hearing 1. 7 trillion. Are we getting a little overthetop in terms of the numbers being discussed here . Do you think the president could actually push that kind of a deal forward 1. 7 trillion . Well i think he could. Were seeing an unprecedented growth in the economy over the past 3040 years we havent had this kind of gdp Growth Companies are making huge investments in advance of the tax bill going into effect. Imagine what happens this week when you see Major Tech Companies like apple start pouring billions and bills of dollars of their capital back into the u. S. Economy that has not been in our economy. Maria i think theres real reason for most americans and except that most to just truly feel a sense of optimism about their own personal future and i know that the thousand dollar or 2500 bonuses to employees, you know, may seem like crumbs to nancy pelosi and Debbie Wasserman schultz but if youre making 50,000 a year, a thousand dollars is not a crumb and if it is, bring some more crumbs well take the crumbs happy to have them. Maria they will have to answer for some of these statements which are ridiculous, crumbs, armageddon with the tax plan nancy pelosi said it was arm armageddon and yet were seeing expectations from 4 Economic Growth for 2018. The president s message in terms of economics is a positive one i assume thats going to be one of the lead headlines out of the state of the union on tuesday. I think it will be. Hes got a great record to point to and one of the most Important Reasons the economy is doing better and manufacturing is coming back. Its not just the taxes but the regulatory environment. This is a president who cut 22 regulations for every new one thats come in. I can not begin to tell you how huge it is and i hear it from people in business every day particularly in the manufacturing world and in the Energy Sector because this means that theyre actually able to do their business and to carry out their products and Services Without essentially being full time slaves of government bureaucracies and bureaucrats. This is big. Maria absolutely it is. And i think thats one of the reasons foreseeing this growth. Apparently it took 13 years to build a bridge in new jersey, jamie dimon spoke me and i spoke with elaine chou who says its taken 25 years to get something done for one piece of infrastructure in alaska. That red tape rollback is huge so well watch for more developments there governor always a pleasure to see you sir thank you so much. Thank you maria have a great sunday. Maria governor huckabee. Next up Kristen Nielsen her reaction to senator corey book era tacking her over something President Trump may or may not have said thats next as we look ahead on sunday morning maria welcome back the battle over immigration and Border Security expected to be front and center at tuesdays state of the Union Address. Homeland security secretary kristen nile send is obviously very familiar with the fight i caught up with her this week in davos switzerland. Here is what she told me. I think what were seeing is terrorists nation states weather acrosstheboard are changing their tune so what we need to do is we need to continue to evolve and make sure we can meet the incoming and changing threats and thats why im here today so we immediate to do that in partnership. Theres not one entity that has all the resources and capabilities to address any of these threats alone so we have to look at it from a international domestic, from a Public Private and certainly within the u. S. Government a whole government o approach to address these. Maria so what do you need to do that effectively . Were having this debate over funding for the border wall but also funding in general for the military as the democrats want what they want in terms of daca. Tell us the needs in terms of Homeland Security. Some of it as you say is funding. I think weve been very clear we have a very clear proposal with respect to the wall system where that would go and how it would work but as we need the ability to promptly renew those that i stop at the border and this is where im confused because this is Border Security. If i stop 20 people at the border but i have to let them into the country thats not Border Security so we need to work with congress to close those loopholes that have evolv ed over time through the courts so that if someone comes and they dont have any legal right or any other claim for example, such as asylum i need the ability to be able to remove them at that point at the border then we dont have an interior problem. Maria in other words people coming to the border you cant just send them right back . No, maam. Maria why . A lot of court cases to be honest. Its just the way the courts have evolved. You find a very sympathetic case and then unfortunately lies made around that case. The exception becomes the rule and suddenly the rule is the exception meaning i cant stop anyone, so weve given those to congress and im very hopeful that we can make the case that is Border Security. Its not interior security its not Immigration Enforcement but Border Security right there. Maria what do you want to see from Corporate America . Companies in terms of verifying, everifying whose working for that company are there a lot of stories of companies hiding illegals . I dont know about a lot of stories but we do unfortunately see bad actors we do see companies who consistently and persistently violate our laws. We will have to work on that, as you seen with 7eleven recently, that has been a problem in the past. We noticed them and so then we had to taken forcement action against the company at the company level. If you are purposely evading our laws we will prosecute. We do need to enforce our laws. Maria even sanctuary cities . I find it extraordinary california with just get away with being a sanctuary city and just blowing off the federal law yeah, you know what i find disturbing about that is i cant find anyone who would tell me they dont want the criminals out, so this is where i get very confused. What at the heart of this discussion is the sanctuary cities is i can go get a criminal. My folks can go get a criminal in jail which is a safe area. Its a controlled area. They can pick that person up, they can detain them for federal purposes on the way out to be deported. If a socalled sanctuary city lets that person out into the community, my officials are then forced to go into the community which puts everyone at risk not just my officers but frankly the immigrant community as well so people talk about sanctuary city its a sanctuary for criminals not for immigrants so we need to understand the safest way to do this is to remove the criminals in a controlled environment. Maria let me ask you about your testimony last week before the senate Judiciary Committee when new jersey democrat corey booker exploded on you over language that the president may or may not have used in the Oval Office Meeting on immigration. Here is an exchange. The commanderinchief in an Oval Office Meeting referring to people from african countries and haitians with the most violent vulgar language, i had tears of rage when i heard about this experience in that meeting. You dont remember. You cant remember the words of your commanderinchief. I find that unacceptable. Your silence and your amnesia is complicit. I was, i mean maria what did you make of senator bookers behavior toward you . Well to be honest it was a distraction. It was very frustrating to me on be half of the men and women and department of Homeland Security because i was there to talk about real threats and their needs to do their job the American People asked them to do and it became 11 minutes of a lecture about a meeting he was not in, about one word and whether or not i heard it. I said under testimony was it possible . Sure. I just didnt hear his word that was it. There was really no story there. He didnt ask me what i think. He didnt ask me what i think about the countries. He didnt ask me what i think about immigration policy. He had no interest in what the secretary of Homeland Security thinks he just wanted to lecture me for 11 minutes so it was unfortunate and unfortunate waste of all of our time. Maria how is the new job going you handled that very well. Thank you. Maria tell us your observations from this new role that you have i am just so proud of the men and women of dhs. Many of them put their lives on the line every single day. We have a huge portfolio, many threats, but its a great job. Its the honor of a lifetime to be able to support them and protect the American People. Maria my thanks to secretary nielsen up next President Trump prepares his first state of the Union Address and it will happen this tuesday up next we will speak to a key member of the house gop leadership congressman Kathy Mcmorris rogers joins me live about what her party wants to hear from the state of the union on tuesday. Looking ahead right now on sunday morning futures stay with us. I accept i dont conquer the mountain like i used to. I even accept i have a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. But whatever trail i take, i go for my best. So if theres Something Better than warfarin, ill go for that too. Eliquis. Eliquis reduced the risk of stroke better than warfarin, plus had less major bleeding than warfarin. Eliquis had both. Dont stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. Eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. 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What do you want to hear from the president on tuesday . Well its a special time when he gets to talk directly to the American People. I expect him to talk about the tax cuts and jobs act that was just signed into law about a month ago. Talk about the jobs in the economy reports, the positive reports that were hearing every day about jobs that are coming back to america, the bonuses, the pay increases, the improved benefits. I was at starbucks this past week in politico can where they were celebrating there was a young manager he and his wife had just given birth four months ago to a baby and they were so excited about the increased benefits in pay that starbucks had announced and were seeing those stories repeated over and over and over. Maria we sure are and its a really good economic part of the message to be communicating what about infrastructure now were hearing this infrastructure push is going to be part of the president s state of the union and its going to cost 1. 7 trillion is that the right number . Well i do believe and most americans want to see us move forward with an infrastructure package. Were looking forward to hearing what the president has to say about more of the details related to infrastructure. Its the next step as we continue to focus on jobs in the economy is that infrastructure thats so foundational to Everything Else and so we want to hear more of those details and also want to hear about the Workforce Development needs and the skills gap that is also associated with trying to get Infrastructure Projects in place because we need more skilled workers. Maria its all the fight about the cost, right . I mean it is 700 billion more than we initially thought and we thought it was 1 trillion. Can you actually get across something that costs 1. 7 trillion when obviously the left is talking about the debt and the 20 trillion which was doubled under president obama. When i said is that the right number do you think thats going to fly or is that the main cause of debate around an infrastructure plan . Well the big challenge has been how to pay for it but the president also has laid out some important reforms to the permitting process, which would also save cost. Theres some proposals for private Public Partnerships that could bring down that cost, so i too am concerned about the debt. I think we do have to be aware of the continued accumulation of debt in this country but were also committed to growing jobs in the economy and infrastructure is apart of that foundation so anxious to hear what the president has to say and well go to work on more of those details. Maria congresswoman do you think youll adopt a deal, the pushback from Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi is a surprise because they wanted a daca deal. The president put something on the table and yet theyre poo po oings it. Well we need a daca deal and the democrats to join us. I was encouraged first to hear the president layout his vision formation and a daca deal and securing the border. In the house and the senate, weve had an agreement a bipartisan agreement for several weeks now on principles related to Immigration Reform that includes a daca fix, securing the border, the visa waiver program, as well as addressing chain migration. Now, we need to agree to the details which is always more challenging but i would just urge the democrats not to play politics, to be serious about this issue which clearly needs to be addressed. The president gave us until march 5 and hes willing to give us more time on the daca fix but we need that sooner rather than later. Maria what are you going to do going into the 2018 elections congresswoman in terms of keeping the party in the majority . Theres a lot of conversation happening now that typically you do lose seats going into the midterms, and given the pushback of this president thats what was expected until of course you had some real important pieces of legislation done like tax reform and going into the immigration possibility as well a deal there but what are you doing specifically going into the 2018 elections . Were going to run on our record. A record of results. Were going to focus on the job creation, the improved economy that is benefiting every person in this country. Clearly the democrats want to make this about donald trump and they want to make it about what hes saying or doing but we need to focus on results and we have a great record. The tax cuts and jobs about as it continues to be implemented is very positive. In february were expecting 90 of wage earners to see increased take home pay as the tables are updated to reflect this new law and we just need to continue on our focus which is a better life for everyone in this country and the results that are because of the legislation weve gotten on the president s desk and that President Trump has signed. Maria well leave it there great to see you congresswoman thanks so much for joining. Great to be with you. Maria well see you soon Kathy Mcmorris rogers up next a voice from the middle east. My interview with the queen of jordan her thoughts on terrorism why theres much more work to be done beyond the battlefield and get her take on where isis is right now were looking ahead on sunday morning futures stay with us. They came out of nowhere, sir how many of em . We dont know. Dozens. All right lets teach these freaks some manners good luck out there, captain thanks but i dont need luck, i have skills. I dont have my keys. on intercom all hands. 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Half of the nation is predominantly young. Theyre educated and connected so theyre exposed to the world and they know what they want and they want better. Most of them predominantly are completely against extremism and violence. What they do want are jobs, opportunity. They want a good education. They want to participate and have a say. They want a good life for their kids and so i think its time for us to everybody is so frustrated with the violence and the conflict and its time to have a new kind of dialogue both inside the middle east and toward the middle east. You know a dialogue where we measure success by closing the Human Dignity deficit in the middle east where we measure winning by the number of jobs created, the number of opportunities and Productive Innovations and not just by political influence so i really think its time for us to get off of this crisis and conflict that weve been on for a long time and i think the people in the middle east are looking forward to that. Now weve soon how countries and whole economies are built on those ideas and we see how a single ideology can destroy countries and weve come a long way defeating isis and im very happy about that but i dont necessarily feel much safer because the Fertile Ground of stability and hopelessness that breeds these kinds of groups is still unfortunately there and we are very happy that in the global counterterrorism war the United States has been a very important player and theyve helped us defeat isis but now is not the time to disengage from the middle east because these kinds of groups can always sort of regroup and reinvigorate so as we are focusing on fighting the bad guys we really need to be focusing on rebuilding and providing hope and also empowering the good players in the middle east. You know the people who are trying to do the right thing, trying to open their countries to reform, to give opportunity and to provide a model for the rest of the region that other countries can look at and say well we want to emulate that model. Maria and you have in fact launched a new learning program. Absolutely. Now like for example, we launch ed a program called draft which is an Online Learning platform for adults in the middle east and we have over 1. 5 learners using this platform and now were trying to expand it so we can reach children all the way from kindergarten to grade 12 so that will give children in yemen or syria who dont have access to schools give them an opportunity to catch up and to have access to world class learning and hopefully that will change the trajectory and tip the scales in our region towards just a more hopeful future. Maria because when youre talking about people in this young age, its either one way or the other. I mean they learn extremism as a young person or they learn the other way, education. And if we wait, then you have generations of children who are growing up in darkness and left susceptibile to extremist thought. A child denied an education isnt just a tragedy for that child it leaves the rest of us vulnerable and if we think the middle east is a dangerous place today imagine what it looks like when these children come of age so its absolutely important for us to really intervene and gives them the opportunities they deserve and protect ourselves and make sure that our future is a better place. Maria a moment ago you mentioned isis dissipating in some way. Do you feel that its gotten better in that regard in the middle east . Like i said i think isis now is on the run, so their ability to cause the havoc theyve caused over the last few years has been undermined but i wont rest easy until i remove the atmosphere that allows for groups like that to emerge because although it may be getting weaker in our part of the world were seeing them getting stronger in countries like africa and certain places in europe and in asia, so its the ideology that needs to be defeated. Maria my thanks to her magesty queen rania. Up next we have President Trump prepares to deliver his first state of the Union Address what can we expect the Political Panel joins me next as we look ahead on sunday morning futures stay with us right here. Each year sarah climbs 58,007 steps. Thats the height of mount everest. Because each day she chooses to take the stairs. At work, at home. Even on the escalator. That can be hard on her lower body, so now she does it with dr. Scholls orthotics. 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Maria welcome back President Trump set to layout his accomplishments and his agenda when he delivers her first state of the Union Address this upcoming tuesday, white house aids say he will look beyond his base and strike a tone of compromise lets bring in james freeman, editor for the wall street journal the editorial page and Fox News Contributor. Kaitlyn birds is National Political reporter with a real clear politics good to see you both thank you for joining us. James you say look, we need more immigration. Explain. Its kind of odd watching these debates happen in washington when you look at the data, the u. S. Population has been growing very slowly. Less than 1 a year since 2010, historically low birth rates, not a lot of immigration either. We get every month almost the last year as the economy is picking up we get businesses saying they cant find enough workers so i think the obvious answer is we ought to be bringing in more talent. Maria so how do we do that whats the balance and what does the president need to communicate in terms of that balance . Well i think there is an opportunity here if democrats want to abandon resistance and work with them, you give them the 25 billion for his wall, but you also get as hes offer ing permission for those people brought here illegally as children to stay here and i would say if he wants to shutdown family and lottery pathways into the u. S. , he ought to think about expanding other ways whether its high skill low skill but allowing more workers to come in and contribute. Maria and the education in terms of the skillsets training is so critical. Kaitlyn what about you this is obviously one of the big headlines within the state of the union. Exactly thats what im looking for in this address if he tries to build a coalition on immigration because you do have that offering of the pathway to citizenship for 1. 8 Million People thats beyond daca that expands to those who were eligible for it but didnt apply and you know how he tries to if he tries to provide some political cover for those more conservative members really concerned that that would be amount to amnesty what they call amnesty and then you have on the democratic side i think there would be support for Border Security in exchange for that citizenship pathway but the curves to Legal Immigration i think are getting people really riled up and thats not something they would attribute to daca. Maria so why did senator schumer reject his proposal . Well theyre very upset about the immigration curves and democrats have shown that theres not really a political incentive to work with the president but they are going to be i think in a tight spot with that pathway to citizenship offering, so these are, this is a frame work released by the white house. We still wont have legislation yet and im curious to see what goes on on the senate side. The house is very difficult as well. Yeah, i think theres still this massive pressure from the Democratic Base not to do anything to cooperate and so thats been the struggle for Chuck Schumer but i think eventually there is a deal here. I think as you suggest having shutdown government over the moral issue of the daca population, they cant really say no to a deal that allows those people to stay and i think that deal also has to include the law and order that cultural conservatives want to see at the border. Maria james this infrastructure explain to us this cost of 1. 7 trillion because it sounds like an incredible headline number of 1. 7 trillion but its a lot less in terms of federal spending. Yeah, i hope so and i think so. Obviously we have bad memories of the 800 billion obama stimulus 3 ended up going to transportation infrastructure. Maria the shovelready job. It turned out not many shovel ready. Maybe 2025 will get high speed rail a few places in California Well see but i think what the president has said to this point is 200 billion from the government and the rest will come from private sector or local government financing, a lot of borrowing there but i think if he does what he says hes going to do which is make it much easier, much quicker to get a permit to build in the u. S. , i dont understand why you need any government money because you would think that would be a magnet for private investment capital. I also, i just, theres going to be some spending so maybe thats how he gets democrats on board but you wonder why you need it. We already have a gas tax to pay for this stuff right . Maria but still, saying 1. 7 trillion is misleading because hes only talking about 200 billion in terms of Government Spending and you say even that im questioning. Yeah. We should. And those are where the fat lines are going to be drawn on this issue right . Democrats want more Government Spending and they arent necessarily trusting of those private partnerships and then you have a lot of republicans in the conference who dont want to make any more adjustments to spending right . So i think its going to be very difficult actually to get something done on infrastructure just because if they cant even agree on the parameters of funding the government, i think passing something as big as this even though there is a lot of bipartisan support for infrastructure in general, the divisions on the actual policy are very stark. The politics are interesting because you look at government data, roads and bridges are actually in better shape since the early 90s but your fox poll when you ask people what do you care about, infrastructure very high on the list, above terrorism, immigration, any of these other issues. I also think for democrats its going to be tough because what theyre trying to do is resist and say to their union constituents wait until after the election well give you a better deal. I think they want the building to start now. Maria and they will have to come up with something they actually are for not keep resisting going into the 2018 election. 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