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Eastern time. Take a look at the dow. The dow specifically tumbled to lows around 11 30 a. M. Eastern after House Speaker nancy pelosi said in her Weekly News Conference there will be no standalone stimulus without a broader coronavirus bill that includes money for schools to properly open and stay open. But then the dow climbed back. Actually, the nasdaq and the s p never went negative but the dow did climb back when pelosi stressed she remains open to negotiations. Our floor show traders are about to tell you how to play this moving target. Flying higher in the middle of the pandemic. While major air carriers remain stuck at the gate waiting for more stimulus money, private jet travel, affordable private jet travel, is booming. The set jet ceo is here. He will demonstrate to you exclusively how contactless Security Systems that hes just installed dont have you having to remove anything metal or even take the loose change out of your pocket. And how are they expanding routes while the Legacy Airlines are shrinking theirs . Live Sports Streaming Service fubu tv makes its debut on the New York Stock Exchange. The cable disruptor ceo is here on his trick to competing against other streamers with deep pocketed corporate parents. Weve got to begin with a fox Business Market alert here. Mixed signals again out of washington about the state of stimulus negotiations. So tuesday and wednesday was President Trump who weaponized the stimulus, first demanding suspension of all discussion and then a few hours later saying hes open to standalone aid for airlines and individuals. Today, it was House Speaker nancy pelosi who grabbed the marketmachete. Listen. Having a standalone bill for the airlines or part of a bigger bill, but there is no standalone bill without a bigger bill. Liz all right. So initially higher, airlines slipped into negative territory but you can see theyre all back if the green except for American Airlines which is just about one penny higher. Call that flat. But airline jobs are still hanging in the balance. American airlines and united have furloughed some 32,000 workers since that First Tranche of 25 billion in care act money for the carriers expired on october 1st. But take a look at the jets etf. This Exchange Traded fund is basically the pure play major u. S. Airlines portfolio. Shares are up more than 5 so far this month, pushing 6 . Is there still confidence a deal will be made sooner rather than later . This leads into washington and through your wallet so lets bring in the floor show. Andrew smith and ed mills, Raymond James washington policy analyst. Ed, okay, stocks have endured a lot of wear and tear in the past 72 hours with all this backandforth on stimulus talks. Can you read the tea leaves for us on how this plays out . Yeah. Thats a great question. I think what i have been debating with investors is whether or not it was a signal that there is an expectation that well get a good package in the lame duck before the december 11th deadline to fund the government, or if its the market further pricing in a democratic sweep in a very large recovery package in a potential biden administration. I think investors are split on that. What theyre not split on is they are still expecting some level of stimulus coming out of washington, d. C. Liz andrew, we have been seeing this gyrate the markets so how do investors strategically handle this news if a deal does not come soon . Ed thinks its coming but we still have 800,000 plus americans filing every week for firsttime jobless claims. Whats the play if there is not a deal . So as we said earlier, the markets are really [ inaudible ] on that additional stimulus but the economic recovery is under way, we are seeing economic tail winds from lower rates, we have seen monetary policy, so these volatile moments should be taken advantage of for longterm investment into companies that benefit from that economic recovery story. We like names that are high quality Balance Sheets and do well with their profit margins. We like home depot, fed ex, waste management, companies that have done well during the pandemic but also continue to do well going out into the economic recovery story regardless of fiscal stimulus or not. Liz you know, ed, andrew makes an interesting point. Waste management. Im thinking about this. Up. 66 right now but it has really struggled over the past year. When people start going back into business and they start conducting commerce once again or their regular lives, we will see a lot of trash generated, will we not . So as you talk to your advisers, they come to you specifically to sort of listen to how wall street meets washington, d. C. , what is the most important thing you want them and our viewers to know . Well, i think the number one question has been the election and there has been a real concern about whether or not well have a clean kind of answer Election Night or soon thereafter. The thing that we really have been promoting is how quickly in advance the absentee and mailin ballots get counted. If florida they get started to count 22 days before the election. North carolina, 14 days before the election. So on Election Night, we actually might have a lot of information sooner than we think. So the fear of an extended election is still there, but lets look at how quickly things can get counted. The second main point we have been telling advisers and investors is elections do matter, but usually once you have that certainty, any weakness heading into the election usually recovers quickly between election day and inauguration day. So dont have kneejerk reactions to this election no matter how it turns out. Liz andrew, you brought up a couple of picks there and one of them was home depot. We have been looking at costco, and costco had very nice same store sales. This is a company that are you saying could possibly, you want to look for companies that could do well in either scenario . Yeah. Definitely. We started to see fears of a second covid wave in europe and some of the states here within our country. We want to find those names that really could benefit from both sides of that aisle. Costco, but also home depot. Lot of individuals are staying at home longer than anticipated. We have seen that drive out of metropolitan areas into suburbs. Home depot is also trying to increase their Online Presence so that really helps give that extra tail wind to that investment play but as we have seen Home Building pick up, the Home Building sector has done phenomenally well given the low Interest Rate environment. We still see the tail winds going to persist further. Liz we will see you next time. Thank you. Because this past 72 hours has been nuts. But it is stimulusdriven. Lets get to this. We do have some individual names on the move. Big blue, you dont often see this, ibm is topping the blue chip index after it announced plans to spin off its i. T. Infrastructure Services Unit into a new publicly traded company. The move caps an effort by ibm to muscle its way into the fastgrowing high margin world of cloud computing. Its up 5. 25 to 130. 53 but just remember, ibm was 181 a share back in 2017. Eden vance getting a significant boost after Morgan Stanley announced today plans to acquire the mutual fund manager for 7 billion. Under the deal shareholders would get 56. 50 per share. Its at 60. 48, plus you get the onetime dividend payout. Morgan stanleys buy comes days after it closed its acquisition of etrade. Eaton advance up 47 . We have a pretty picture for coty investors. Double digit percentage jump for the stock, up 12. 9 on news that its expanding its kylie skin care line. There she is with purple hair. The brand created by wildly popular reality star kylie jenner. The cosmetic maker will launch directtoconsumer web sites for the line in the uk, france, germany and australia. We should look at the rest of the beauty sector to see if they are getting any kind of bump. That would include ulta, estee lauder, sally. They are all moving higher. That brings us to mcdonalds. A stretch, you say, from kylie to mcdonalds . Actually not. Kylies exboyfriend, rapper Travis Scotts megasuccessful collab with mcdonalds helped boost sales at the fast food chain. The travis scott meal was so popular that some mcdonalds are suffering shortages of the custommade quarter pounder. Mcdonalds trading lower by. 33 . Dont know why. We had u. S. Same store sales turning positive in the Third Quarter. The company also boosted its dividend by four cents to 1. 29 a share. Nice payoff while you wait. Weve got the closing bell ringing in 50 minutes. The dow up 82 points. Hey, take a look at rokus stock. Its moving higher after needham boosted the streaming device makers price target to a street high of 255. Its up 4. 25 to 221 and change. This as one of rokus offerings diving into the Public Markets today. Up next, live sports streaming platform fubo tv plans to get sports fans to finally cut the cord entirely. We are going to take you live to the New York Stock Exchange on their ipo day to hear from the ceo right here. As the original host of wheel of fortune, i was blessed to be part of building one of the greatest game shows in history. 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Sure its secure. And even if the power goes down, your connection doesnt. So how do i do this . You dont do this. We do this, together. Bounce forward, with comcast business. Liz breaking news. We need to get you to this. Moments ago, michigan governor gretchen whitmermaid a statement in lansing about the thwarted kidnapping plot against her, thanking Law Enforcement for apprehending and charging quote, sick and depraved men who were quote, preparing to kidnap and possibly kill her. In case youre just joining us, this story broke out a couple of hours ago. The fbi revealed that six men had been plotting since the summer with a Militia Group to take the governor hostage and they had hoped to carry out their plans before election day. The fbi said they learned about the plot by intercepting encrypted messages and there were undercover agents working with the group. Now, in a statement, facebook said it quote, proactively reached out to the fbi and the investigation of the militia plot. Facebooks stock moving higher by 2 right now, 263. 37. Let me make a hard right turn here. Cord cutters. Cord cutters rejoicing today as fobu tv hit the stock market, bringing the allieva sports that cable offers for a price as low as 65 a month. The stock priced to 10 opened and immediately moved to about 12 a share, coming slightly back to earth right now but still up 4. 5 . As you know, we always say here on the claman countdown its not how you open, its how you close. So with about 46 minutes left to trade, the stock is at 10. 44. Lets bring in from the New York Stock Exchange the ceo to talk about his big ipo. Hes also the cofounder. David gandler. Great to see you. Day one, whats it been like these past couple of hours . Were very excited. We are having great day. We are happy for our customers, happy for our shareholders. Liz lets get right to it. I want our viewers who arent familiar with fobu tv to understand what it is. Youve got different packages that would for not really just the live sports aficionado or fan, but look, spongebob, fox business, along with all of the sports and talk about the pricing here, because right now, that seems to be the key. Yeah, thats true. Fobu is a sports first paid tv Replacement Service for the entire family. We offer a wide range of premium sports, news and entertainment content with a fantastic experience and a very attractive price point. The price point is actually 59. 99. Liz for what, 100 plus channels, as i understand it . [ speaking simultaneously ] liz okay. So youre in the same range as at t. Then youve got a family plan for 64. 99 which is right there with youtube television. Slings cheaper. Hulu is slightly less at the moment. But talk to me about the plan for revenue. You actually had revenue up about 93 year over year between 2018 and 19, and that revenue gain has continued, i believe, in the most recent quarter from the guidance that we found. But im interested to know where the rubber is going to meet the road when it comes to actually being profitable. Yeah. Thats a great question. As i said before, fobu is a very young company, five years old. We launched the business in january 2015. We have been growing our top line very quickly, roughly about 100 year over year. We have increased guidance for the Third Quarter, guidance for the fourth quarter, for the full year. We expect to finish the year with about 480,000 paying subscribers and have taken a very balanced approach to the business growing subs at a rate we believe is acceptable to us, but yet is way above the market, but at the same time we are focused on gross margins. In january i mentioned that our plan is to expand margins at roughly 150 basis points to 200 basis points per quarter. We have been doing that sequentially and we believe that continues over the long haul. Liz talking about subscribers, how do you retain and continue to grow subscribership postpandemic . There is this belief that everybodys stuck at home and of course, they are dialing up and they want to see this. How do you model for that, how do you plan for that once there is a viable vaccine and people are ready to go out and do other things . Look, great question. Obviously we have seen viewership grow to about 140 hours per month during the pandemic but prior to the pandemic, we were growing at a pretty solid rate. We had gone from about 34 hours of viewing in q1 of 2018 to about 120 plus hours through q1 of 2020. So we believe that trajectory continues. Cable tv viewership hours, the nielsen numbers are around 300 hours. We feel theres significant room for us to grow given the fact we are a paid tv Replacement Service with a robust set of channels across three genres, sports, news and entertainment. Liz yeah. Yeah. But sports, boy, you got diehard sports fans pretty excited about this one. Youll be happy to know while you were talking, the stock moved up yet another percent. Hey, im glad fox business is also one of the choices on fobu tv. Thanks so much. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Liz david gandler. Good luck. We will be watching it. Fobu tv. The app that is a dream for cord cutters who are just dying for live sports. Closing bell, we are about 40 minutes away and the dow continues to hold on to 85 points at the moment, good for a third of a percent. Hey, weve got another media superstar on this weeks edition of my everyone talks to liz podcast. Listen to this question. Why would the hollywood executive producer behind the hugely successful hangover movies step away from the hollywood scene to pursue a calling in criminal Justice Reform . Who does that and why . 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We are in the aftermarket right now but 91 of the regions offshore oil has been halted. 62 of natural gas output in the gulf also halted. Youve got nat gas up. 8 . Crude is up 3 . Lets go to fox news Senior Correspondent mike tobin on the ground in berwick, louisiana. Mike, what are you hearing . Reporter we are just starting to get the first bands of rain from the outer edges of the storm. Right on cue, i want to show a couple tugboats headed up the river, presumably headed to safe harbor right now to secure themselves. As you look around, we are looking at morgan city, im standing in the town of berwick, louisiana. As you look around, these towns are surrounded by a 17foot seawall with big gates that roll closed when the storm comes in. Some 38 gates, most of them are closed right now. The people out here, you have some 8,000 residents who are still without their homes after hurricane laura. Theyve got to repeat the drill now. Board up the windows, the fishermen are taking their boats to safe harbor, crabbers are pulling their traps out of the water, doing it without pay for another week. This is the drill. They know it, they dont like it but they know enough to take the storm seriously. Katrina was devastating to us so we are acutely aware of how we need to handle this and we dont take anything lightly. Reporter moving through places like cancun, hurricane delta proved that it is a destructive force, leaving behind flooded streets, battered buildings. You even have a situation where people piled up in a hotel despite the pandemic, all in close proximity to each other because they needed some place to shelter. Passing over land in theyucatan peninsula, the storm did weaken a little bit. The bad news is right now its over deep, warm water and gaining strength. The good news is that before it makes landfall it will hit some cold water again. It will also hit a wind shear which to simplify it, will essentially disrupt the wind pattern and weaken the storm to some extent. But still, we are talking about an 11foot storm surge, some 15 inches of rain and the potential that it could whip up tornadoes. You got hurricanes, tornadoes, pandemic, welcome to 2020. Back to you. Liz yeah. 11foot storm surge and before we go, how tall are those gates over your Left Shoulder . Reporter 17 feet are the gates. The good news, i was looking at the tides, the storm surge should not hit right at high tide. Thats good news for the people out here. You dont have all the water piling up at the same time. Liz just six weeks after they were hit by another hurricane. Thank you, mike. Stay safe. You and the crew, we appreciate you. We appreciate the news. Lets go to Cheryl Casone for todays fox business brief. Cheryl yeah, dominoes rolling to the bottom of the s p 500 today after missing on eps due to higher costs caused by the pandemic. The pizza giant saw sales spike 17. 5 in the Third Quarter which was driven by athome and sports watching demand. The stock is down almost 7 . Target and tapestry are dressing for success after getting a buy call from deutsche bank. Deutsche says consumers are redirecting their entertainment and travel dollars into fashion. Target higher by. 8 . Tapestry up more than 4 . Lets take a look at regeneron. It is seeing a lot of green after getting emergency approval by the fda for its covid19 antibody cocktail. The company filed for the emergency authorization last night and this morning, President Trump announced it would be getting approved. Gilead has signed an agreement to bring remdesivir to the european union. This would be the first effective antiviral drug treatment of covid19 being brought to the eu. Regeneron up almost 2 . Gilead up more than. 5 . 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And even if the power goes down, your connection doesnt. So how do i do this . You dont do this. We do this, together. Bounce forward, with comcast business. Liz some investors are really wishing they had invested just six days ago into the airline sector. Look at just a few days into october, jetblues up 12 . 12 . Since the beginning of october. American moving higher by 7 . Delta seeing a gain of 6. 66 . Wholly driven by hopes of a fresh chunk of stimulus money heading their way. Now, at the wholly entirely other end of the flying spectrum, private jet carriers are seeing pretty stunning jump in new customer interest as flyers seek options that involve fewer people, more space and more latitude in location choices, even if it comes at a higher cost. The private jet charter flight platform set jet, which Just Launched in december, not even a year old, already opening a second hub in the San Francisco bay area and now it becomes the first private jet company to use a new intelligent touchless security screening system. Joining us now in a fox business exclusive for our first look at this new system is set jet cofounder and ceo, tom smith. Tom, good to see you again. You were with us when you launched. First walk us through this new system. Give us a tour, what it means we do and dont have to do. Yeah. So this is the evolved security system. We are exclusive in the Aviation Industry to have this. One of the great things is its a threat director, not just a metal scanner. I dont have to stop. I can carry my bags at the same time. Just by moving through it, it does a quick scan and then as it takes that picture, it will show an image on there for our security personnel to see where that threat might be. Its not just looking for metal. Its looking for threats and its really exciting because it doesnt slow the process down, its nonintrusive and its a great piece of technology. Liz so you dont have to take your cell phone out, you dont have to put anything in a dish . Correct. You dont take anything out. I can go through with my bags. I dont have to send them a different direction. I can just walk right through the system and then you can come into our lounge and relax and keep your social distance. Its a great way to just have security but its noninvasive, its not slowing you down and can do thousands of People Per Hour so its a very quick system. You just keep moving while its doing its scan and then our security personnel would see the picture with an image of a red box showing where the particular threat might be. Liz i see. Okay. Then behind you is one of your, i believe what kind of jet . This is one of our jets. Theres five of them now. The expansion from San Francisco coming to Southern California into las vegas will start on january 4th. We are getting a great response. We have also added an International Market with cabo san lucas. I will show you inside the jet so you can see how its spaced and people are able to travel in luxury with us on this platform. Liz you know, you just are now opening in partnership with App Jet Center in heyward, the heyward executive airport. Thats located in a very specific place that would give a real opportunity for people to get into silicon valley, San Francisco, oakland, berkeley. How did you expand so quickly because when we first met you, fewer than ten months ago, you really didnt have as many routes so im assuming your passenger numbers have gone up. Talk about what you have seen as far as percentages are concerned. Yeah. We were on a hockey stick and when covid hit and the lockdown, everybody got affected but it r was really driven because our members werent making reservations. We are now approaching almost 1,000 flights being conducted. We are back on that trajectory. The members wanted to add cabo and San Francisco, and we are doing that. We got that partnership as you mentioned so its going to open up the whole bay area, connect Southern California with Northern California as well as the las vegas market. The whole southwest now is going to be covered and its been driven because of our member response. This is the way they want to travel. Its a 5 million interior. You arent sitting right next to each other so you get that private experience but you get to go when you want to go and its a schedule the members are setting. Liz where you want to go. Private jet travel is a way to actually legally go to countries that are still limiting american flyers coming in. Listen, the list changes constantly but i remember a couple months ago, the bahamas said no way and so people were saying how do i get in there. If you took a private jet, you know, people imagine that private jet travel is really for a Business Traveler who has a company dime that they can travel on, or very wealthy people. Correct. And it is, its very expensive when you travel private. Its thousands and thousands of dollars. With our membership, its a 99 membership, its 99 a month to be a member, and its between 400 and 500 depending on your destination each way to travel this way. So its more closely aligned with the first class ticket. Its not tens of thousands of dollars that you might see for the segments we are flying and its because we are able to congregate 14 to 15 people inside this airplane that we are able to maintain, whether you are the first to book it or the 14th, everybody is paying the same. Thats why the members really love this opportunity. Some of these people are not even they have the ability to travel private but are choosing to travel on set jet because this is a more affordable way and they still get that same experience flying out of private terminals and arriving at a private terminal. You dont have to sit and wait at an airport and be crowded. Our members are just loving it. Liz you know, im just going to say, when are you going to dubuque . American Airlines Announced it was slicing some of its smaller and shorter haul routes. We can put them up. Joplin, missouri. I know they have new haven, connecticut, they are cutting off, del rio, texas. You guys are expanding while they are shrinking. What does that mean for your business in the months ahead . Well, we are going to continue to expand. We are already looking at other markets like in texas, like in the southeast. As you say, people, when you talk to our members, they just dont want to be traveling commercially. They are worried about covid. Here, they are getting experience where they can maintain social distance while even on the aircraft, and thats one of the reasons we are expanding. San francisco to los angeles, the Northern California Southern California is a huge travel market. We are also going to look at connecting Southern California with new york in the future. Thats another market we have had in our plan. But by staying in that one to twohour flight range we keep it affordable, yet give them a private aircraft experience. Liz all right. We need you to come out to teterboro here in jersey. Good to see you. Tom smith. Set jet ceo and cofounder, and thank you very much. Good to see you. The closing bell, make sure theres nuts, the mixed nuts are heated. We have 19 minutes to go before the closing bell rings and yes, now we are up 95 points for the dow at 28,393. Up next, we have been talking about the stimulus saga playing havoc in the markets but is targeted stimulus even too much of a lift for both nancy pelosi and the white house . Charlie breaks it next on the claman countdown. I searched and found sofi and applied for a personal loan. I paid off my credit cards and felt a weight come off my shoulders. Thank you sofi for a great experience and for helping me get my money right. Liz we have this fox business alert. At ts warner media is planning on cutting thousands of jobs in restructuring efforts. Warner media, of course, is the parent of hbo, turner sports, cartoon channel, Cartoon Network and of course, cnn as well. We have warner brothers, hbo, cable channels cutting costs by as much as 20 due in part to the coronavirus pandemic draining income from Movie Theater tickets, cable subscriptions and tv ads. Shares of at t right now up 1 . Okay. So we continue to talk about this theme of whether we will see a stimulus plan. Now, even as stocks move higher on new stimulus hopes, Senate Insiders are apparently doubtful that even targeted aid can get through at this point. Charlie gasparino with the latest details from inside the beltway. What are you hearing . Charlie you know, the stimulus package was always a heavy lift. The latest round of it. We are still talking about this when it was supposed to be done in august. We are hearing even now where they look like there could be some ray of hope for very targeted stimulus, some of the stuff we first broke on the claman countdown a couple days ago about maybe doing some more business loans, some additional ppp money, something thats very targeted, maybe to airlines. We are hearing now that that is even largely off the table. You never say never in this environment. We have 30 days to go before a president ial election. Theres political points to be made on stimulus, markets go up often on that. But heres how we are hearing from our congressional sources how its breaking down. First off, Congressional Democrats and the gop remain divided on this. Theres no doubt about that. Thats why youre not hearing a deal. The democrats believe they can pass a bigger stimulus in november after the election. Why is that . They are growing increasingly confident they are going to win not just the presidency but the senate and control all three chambers and at some point, you know, the senate doesnt change hands until january, obviously, and neither does the presidency if biden defeats President Trump, but there will be pressure for the Current Congress to act, or they will act alone in january. So they believe that they have the wind at their sails. They believe Kamala Harriss debate performance last night. While not as good as Vice President pepnce, pence did a very good job in that debate but they dont think it was anything thats going to be a game changer in terms of polling and the election and they really think because this election is on covid and on the president , whether he addressed it well enough, his response to covid, they really think they are in the drivers seat with 30 days to go. Then heres the other thing thats really interesting. Republicans see no political benefit in compromising, really, with democrats who want more grandiose spending. They are looking at it like this. Their constituents are worried about the deficit. The deficit right now is at 4 trillion. Unemployment numbers are baked in, even if they pass a big stimulus bill. Youre not going to get anything before the election. The political dynamic is such they are not going to go out of their way to do this. They dont get much bang for the buck politically. President trump is down but if the republicans want to hold the senate they may have to appeal to people who are worried about the size, growing size of the deficit with all this spending. And the fact that the economy is in many ways Getting Better even though as you just reported, at t and a bunch of other companies are slashing workers because of the pandemic recession. So thats where we are right now. I would say as of now, its a big no. But the one thing i would caution is this is a moving political football. You are in a very unpredictable president who may give in. Who knows. The problem, though, trump has is that he doesnt control the gop senate right now. Because of his poll numbers, its hard to convince senators who dont want to spend any more. People like mitt romney and even mcconnell, mitch mcconnell, the majority leader, to go for a big spending plan right now. They are fighting for their political lives, too. They dont see any political benefit for it. Back to you. Liz yeah. Well, maybe the benefit is youve got people who are facing household insolvency. You just dont know with so few days left before the election. Thank you. Charlie gasparino. The one, the only charlie gasparino. Closing bell, we are just a couple minutes away. Lets call it nine and a half minutes. The dow is now up triple digits. We climbed and climbed this entire hour. Up 108 points. Up next, the big name thats buying up bitcoin and why our countdown closer who has been trading stocks for decades says you know what, you should, too. The claman countdown is coming right back. Economics . Algorithms . Magic . Turns out, its you. Doing your thing. Dreaming dreams. Building new worlds. Its why we built our workspace technology. To help you do your best work and to see what you can become. Youre made for bigger things. 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Youre on the cryptocurrency pursuit. Tell us why you look at crypto at the moment and what form . Liz, the cryptocurrency, bitcoin would never come out of my mouth in a positive sense until probably two weeks ago. I thought it was a snared delusion for the gullible few. I changed my mind which make me one of the gullible few but hopefully not. Two reasons why cryptocurrencies are very attractive. One is a longer term reason, there is a good possibility that the currency gets debased by massive spending and tax increases that dont match that over the next couple years. The other is the speculative reason which is very very, very compelling to me right now. Liz Sander Morris Harris george ball changed his tune on bitcoin which is incredible. How many decades have you been in this business george . People would say too many. And theyre right. The business baffles me as much as a half a century ago. Im not ready to quit quite yet. Liz here is my concern about bitcoin. I like evolution and revolution. So i get it. People were poopooing the internet in 1998, even that late, im never going to order anything on the web. It is too weird. Too scary. Now look, were all attached to it. So there is an opportunity there but my concern is very much with the, i guess the ability to invest without buying individual bitcoins. There isnt even a pure play bitcoin etf right now. So where do you look at the plays, the way to get in . There is one semietf, the etf is the symbol. It trades rather consistently big, up to 20 premium over the net asset value. Youre paying for convenience in that case. Fidelity is opening its doors to cryptocurrency or bitcoin, a basket of the crip cocurrencies. That is another way where late investor like me can put money into the cryptocurrencies and i think that as the Retail Investors who have been trading much more actively in the market get their noses bloodied, would turn to cryptocurrency of the vehicle of the moment. Liz got it. [closing bell rings] the fact that square is up to 283. 50. Not a bad move. George ball. Always a pleasure. That will do it for the claman countdown. It is friday tomorrow. Well see if we can get green on the screen. Connell we are just clinging to stimulus hopes. Stocks rising again. Second day in a row weve been up. Investors holding out hope well get some type of relief package done, despite back and forth throughout the day in washington. First the president came out that talks were starting to work out. The speaker seemed to throw cold water on that. Were up nice 122 on the dow. Thanks for joining us. Im connell mcshane. This is after the bell. We have a lot of news to cover. We have fox Business Team coverage with reporters. Ashley webster sorts out the