Karma and Friends, actually," he also explained to
Deadpan Love because it was more holistic in how I operate as a person in my life, which is that I feel like I have an external witty side that I use as a protection mechanism for my soul, which I feel like is very earnest and empathetic and caring. So, it’s like the two sides of the same coin.
Deadpan Love is how I define my identity and how it manifests."
"I took on a little bit of an Executive Producer role in this project," he explains in his FUV "Marquee Live at Home" session, "because in past projects, it was really sort of just myself or like the band. But I think with this album, I really wanted to just find a little bit more of intention and also, like, work with specific people that I thought could take it in the direction that it’s in.