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Or not, banking leaders have said that the term should not be used because it is well, racist. Are they right or is this just the woke mob throwing its toys out of the pram . Once again . Do out of the pram . Once again . Do get in touch. Send us your thoughts on gbviews gbnews. Com or at gb news. But or tweet me at gb news. But first, lets get the news headunes first, lets get the News Headlines rory. Headlines with rory. Thank you very much, emily. Those who have been wrongfully convicted of crimes will no longer have the living costs docked from their compensation payments. This new guidance payments. This new guidance issued by justice secretary alex chalk comes into immediate effect today say it follows the controversy sparked by the jailing of Andrew Malkinson , who jailing of Andrew Malkinson, who spent 17 years behind bars for a crime he did not commit. He voiced his concerns that expenses may be deducted from his compensation , prompting his compensation, prompting downing street to make urgent amendments. The National Crime amendments. The National Crime agency is teaming up with social media firms to crack down on posts by people smugglers who are encouraging Asylum Seekers to cross the channel the Prime Minister says the new partnership between Law Enforcement and tech giants will tackle attempts to lure migrants into paying to make the journey. Group discount free spaces for children and offers a false documents among the posts that rishi sunak once removed to help achieve his promise to stop the boats. Minister for immigration Robert Jenrick told gb news that deterrence is a key part of the governments plan to tackle the small boats crisis. Small boats crisis. The overwhelming majority of those people coming on small boats are coming from france, from a safe country with a well functioning asylum system. There choosing to come to the uk. And choosing to come to the uk. And that must be in part because of a perception that the uk is a softer touch. Thats why were changing accommodation. Thats why were making it harder to live and to work illegally in the uk , theres been a 50 rise the uk, theres been a 50 rise in the number of raids this year by Immigration Enforcement to try and close down bogus employers who are breaking the law by employing Illegal Migrants. Meanwhile, shadow immigration minister Stephen Kinnock says a Labour Government would still have to house migrants in barges for short periods while tackling the backlog of asylum cases. A the backlog of asylum cases. A Labour Government would also continue to place Asylum Seekers and former military bases for up to six months. Neil kinnock blamed the conservative government for the current asylum situation but could not say how long it would take. A Labour Government to reduce the asylum backlog of 172,000 cases. Ukraines president Vladimir Zelenskyy, is accusing russia of bombing a Blood Transfusion Centre in the north west of the country. Mr zelenskyy claims a country. Mr zelenskyy claims a number of people are dead and others are injured. But the president did not disclose how many fatalities there are. He described the strike in the eastern Kharkiv Region as a war crime there. So far been no comment from russia. Well, comment from russia. Well, meanwhile, a University Building was in flames in the donetsk in eastern ukraine, a region now under russian control. Local under russian control. Local authorities blamed the shelling on Ukrainian Forces that they claim are now using cluster bombs. The us sent cluster munitions to ukraine last month , but kyiv has promised to use them only on Russian Forces , not them only on Russian Forces, not civilian targets. Its an iconic civilian targets. Its an iconic 18th century pub in birmingham has been gutted by fire just days after it was sold to a private buyer. Firefighters were private buyer. Firefighters were called to the crooked house pub just before 1045 last night. The blaze was extinguished and no one was injured and affectionate , known to many as the wonky pub. Due to its unusual angle, visitors would enjoy the illusion of coins and other objects seemingly rolling uphill along the bar. Police are appealing for anyone with information about the fire to come forward. And if youve ever come forward. And if youve ever wanted to talk to animals hunting enthusiasts in the baltic countries could show you a thing or two. A up. Baltic countries could show you a thing or two. A up. And a thing or two. A up. And in in estonia grunted and bellowed in a battle to be named the champion stag caller. They were scored on their ability to imitate the animals in different categories like the call of a young deer. Categories like the call of a young deer. This is gb news across the uk on tv , in your across the uk on tv, in your car, in Digital Radio, and on your Smart Speaker by playing saying play gb news. Now though , its back to. , its back to. Emily thank you very much rory. So the home secretary has accused keir starmer of trying to sabotage her attempt to end the illegal Immigration Crisis in the channel. Suella braverman claims the labour leader has a web of cronies who are blocking any effort to stop small boats crossings from calais. So joining me now to discuss this is gb news Political Correspondent olivia utley olivia , thank you. Oh, beautiful olivia, thank you. Oh, beautiful backdrop , stunning. Thank you backdrop, stunning. Thank you for joining me from the seaside forjoining me from the seaside there. So Suella Braverman , there. So Suella Braverman, shes been on the offensive recently. She wrote what recently. She wrote what a letter to keir starmer. Only a couple of weeks ago saying he needs to sack everyone in in his shadow cabinet who supports Just Stop Oil now shes saying keir starmer is sabotaging. Her starmer is sabotaging. Her yes. Well, ever since those byelections a few weeks ago where the tories unexpectedly managed to win the seat of uxbridge, the Government Strategy has been to the government. The Government Strategy has been to find wedge issues between himself and laboun issues between himself and labour. So youve got the so theres a is olivia there . Theres a is olivia there . Have we got olivia . Have we got olivia . Weve got the weve got the. Weve got the weve got the. Oh, sorry, were having some problems there. Theres someone well come back to you in just two moments. Olivia, thank you very much. Well come back to you in a minute. I think shes having a few difficult days there but there by the seaside. But thankfully, have my wonderful thankfully, we have my wonderful panel will give their panel here who will give their hot on what suella hot take on what Suella Braverman accused keir braverman has accused keir starmer and is starmer of doing and that is sabotage of small boats sabotage of their small boats policy. That sir keir policy. She says that sir keir starmer essentially has a web of cronies. Actavis thats who work with labour to try and stop things like the rwanda plan to try and stop the governments efforts to stop the small boats. So with me today is david curtain and we also have Matthew Stadlen , political commentator. Stadlen, political commentator. David is of course the leader of the heritage party. So matthew, the heritage party. So matthew, ill come to you first on this. What do you make of Suella Braverman . I thought we could communicate for the next hour in stag calling after this. Wasnt that brilliant . Wasnt that brilliant . Oh, weve got that later on. Oh, weve got that later on. Weve got that later on. Weve got that later on. Okay. Okay. Saw in okay. Saw news saw that in your news bulletin in lithuania. No, its a isnt it . I mean, a nonsense, isnt it . I mean, the government has in power the government has been in power for in form or for 13 years in one form or another. Youve the home another. Youve got the home office about a Legacy Office talking about a legacy backlog of asylum claims. Legacy is the conservatives whove been running the show for over a decade. So thats the first point. Id say. The second point is labour have pointed out that actually in to order clear the backlog at the current rate that the government clearing it, the government is clearing it, it Something Like, it would take Something Like, i dont , 14 years, something dont know, 14 years, Something Like governments like that. So the governments asylum migration policies asylum and migration policies are absolute tatters. And are in absolute tatters. And what the home secretary is trying to do in true populist fashion is to distract by blaming a party that has been out of power since 2010 for their own failures. The idea their own failures. The idea that keir starmer somehow is trying to sabotage her policies for political gain is absurd. No for political gain is absurd. No one wants these crossings. No one wants these crossings. No one wants these crossings. No one wants these crossings. No one wants people to put their lives at risk. Everyone wants to stop them. The question is why have the government failed to do so . Well, hang on, its been well reported that people who have worked with the labour party , worked with the labour party, legal advisers. Et cetera. Et cetera , have been the ones to cetera, have been the ones to bnng cetera, have been the ones to bring these challenges against the rwanda policy. So the government wants to get the rwanda policy off the ground. They are failing to do so because of legal challenges which are led by, for example, Jacqueline Mckenzie, whos a Senior Lawyer leading efforts to block the rwanda policy. She block the rwanda policy. She also serves as a race advisor to laboun also serves as a race advisor to labour. Youve also got another activist, bella sankey, whos launching legal cases against the policy. Can the rwanda policy. So you can see that from the outside it does look like those people who support Keir Starmer Starmer and are advising keir starmer are also the same people who are launching legal attacks on this policy. So can you see from that policy. So can you see from that respect that people might look at party, look at the at the labour party, look at the labour leader and think is this party on the side of illegal immigration or are they with the government in trying to it . Government in trying to end it . Emily everything youve just said assumes himars presupposes that the rwanda policy, as you describe it, is going to stop the small boats. The small boats. Of course, the rwanda policy is not going to stop the small boats. The small boats are still coming. The idea that were going able to send enough going to be able to send enough people to rwanda, which anyway, i think is morally wrong, ethically that ethically wrong, the idea that were to send were going to be able to send enough people to rwanda either to clear the backlog to act to clear the backlog or to act as a deterrent absolute as a deterrent is absolute pie in the sky. Well, and what about david . What about labour councillor whos been found on tiktok spreading tips on how to essentially go from being an illegal immigrant to a legal immigrant by using various loopholes . Yeah, i think this is erramalli, isnt it . The councillor from newcastle and yeah , look, going back to suella yeah, look, going back to Suella Braverman accusing keir starmer and her and the labour party of trying to block efforts to slow down migration. Well of course, down migration. Well of course, i mean its kind of like accusing a cow of mooing, isnt it . I mean essentially of course thats what theyre going to do it . I mean essentially of course tithei what theyre going to do it . I mean essentially of course tithe era at theyre going to do it . I mean essentially of course tithe era oftheyre going to do it . I mean essentially of course tithe era of rapide going to do it . I mean essentially of course tithe era of rapid massg to do. The era of rapid Mass Immigration started with labour in tony blairs time, and its carried on through brown and its accelerated now in the conservatives time. And theyve said every year, every election were going to bring net migration to down the tens of thousands. But they havent. So in a way Suella Braverman , in a way Suella Braverman, although she is correct in saying that the labour activists are trying to block efforts to reduce migration, she is diverting attention and deflecting attention away from the terrible record that the conservative party has had over the last 13 years. And in a way , i do agree with matthew that the rwanda scheme isnt going to do anything ing to bring down net migration. It was set up to net migration. It was set up to fail. But does she look a little bit desperate saying this type of stuff . Because as matthew said, it is true that the conservatives have been in government in one way or another for the last 13 years. Surely if they really, really, really wanted to get a grip of this situation in the channel grip of this situation in the channel, they could do with or without the support of labour and various legal activists, of course, they could declare a state of emergency in the channel and they could start pushing the boats back to france and they could put much more and they could put in much more strict people strict controls over people coming in the back of the lorry to tilbury and to dover and places like that. Places like that. You know, theyve passed the immigration bill that went through a couple of through parliament a couple of weeks the situation weeks ago. But the situation hasnt changed. Still have hasnt changed. We still have hundreds people coming across hundreds of people coming across the channel day, they the channel every day, so they could have got a grip on this way, before now. And way, way before now. And obviously, you know , shes but obviously, you know, shes but imagine imagine the imagine imagine if the conservatives had said, okay, were to push the boats back. Were going to turn them around. Mean, can you imagine around. I mean, can you imagine his from well, heres his outrage from well, heres heres an area where we will all presumably disagree. Presumably disagree. Of course, we cant physically push boats back because then we are taking part actively taking part in endangenng actively taking part in endangering peoples lives. What we should be doing as a country. What this government and we agree its failed agree that its failed egregiously this area. What egregiously in this area. What this government should be doing is down, for goodness is cracking down, for goodness sake, these criminal gangs sake, on these criminal gangs working as closely as it possibly can with the french, who might be a bit recalcitrant because of feeling over because of bad feeling over brexit. This this government has lost control of law and order. You get drugs , drops in my you get drugs, drops in my streets, in london. I saw one happen yesterday evening when i was out. I was out walking the was out. I was out walking the dogs. Was out. I was out walking the dogs. There is no sense in which dogs. There is no sense in which communities are properly safe. Communities are properly safe. Theres no sense in which this government is controlling. Illegal migration makes that so its absolutely pathetic. Its absolutely pathetic. Weve got plenty of home grown criminals in this country as well. Government failed well. This government has failed to get grip. Its been in to get a grip. Its been in power for 13 people are power for 13 years. People are getting up. May i . Getting fed up. May i . Yes. You know, we hear this line. Theyve been in government for 14, 13 years. Sometimes for 13, 14, 13 years. Sometimes it seems like they havent. It does seem like the courts activists obviously , the activists obviously, the opposition do try their very best to thwart some of their more controversial local policies. I mean, we only have to cast our mind back to what was happening over brexit. But matthew, what is labours solution . What is Keir Starmers big idea . Because its very easy big idea . Because its very easy to accuse keir starmer of sitting on the fence on major, major issues and it seems to me the labour party talk of safe and legal routes , they talk of and legal routes, they talk of more international cooperation. But what tangibly are they going to do . So im not a spokesperson for keir starmer. Im not a labour mp. I i broadly speaking, would like to see a Labour Government. I would like to see this conservative government out on its heel. What do i think labour should be pushing . I think labour should be pushing an end to the rwanda policy, which is a distraction scheme, which is a headune distraction scheme, which is a headline grabber which simply will. Were both agreed will not work. Were both agreed on it should be pushing on that and it should be pushing a greater emphasis on a far greater emphasis on straightforward law and order. So thats on the beaches, on our borders , get people out there. Borders, get people out there. Whichever agency it is, we need to get those smugglers who are causing absolute misery and causing absolute misery and causing carnage generally and get those guys behind bars. Well, i think most people would approve of that as a solution, although it doesnt seem to be working. Were spending hundreds of millions of pounds on trying to police that border. And i do actually genuinely believe that what we needis genuinely believe that what we need is a strong deterrent. People say , oh, no, deterrence people say, oh, no, deterrence dont work. Well, of course they dont work. Well, of course they do. If they are if they are implemented properly. David, i mean, just moving to in the sun today and across the news, its been reported last week on this show, we reported that that illegal smugglers traffickers, people smugglers were using tiktok to advertise their wares, to advertise their service, and they were using emojis of the union jack and of boats and of france and of the uk to essentially get around some of the regulations on tiktok so that they could keep their videos up in order to get business. Now it seems the government has given this some thought and tiktok and facebook are going to be joining forces with our top crime busters to crack down on this practise. I mean, how was it even happening 7 mean, how was it even happening . David . Yeah, i mean, using tiktok , yeah, i mean, using tiktok, its an absolute joke. Tiktok and these social media platforms are open, arent they . I mean, i dont agree with censorship on these platforms. But, you know, to i were one of to be honest, if i were one of these young men their these young men in their situation, then dont blame situation, then i dont blame them. Would do the same. Them. I would do the same. Because to this because if you come to this country and youre rewarded for getting country, you get getting to this country, you get put in a 4 or 5 star hotel, you get an aspen card with free money on it. You get nice meals, you get a mobile phone , you get you get a mobile phone, you get free health care. You well, most free health care. You well, most of them are military age men. But if you do come with your families, you get education for your kids. So its a reward for getting this country. I mean, getting to this country. I mean, one of the that they have one of the things that they have done very recently is done just very recently is saying were going have saying were going to have marquees and that might marquees set up and that might be of deterrent be somewhat of a deterrent because change things because that might change things because that might change things because people think, because people might think, well, come to the uk now, well, if i come to the uk now, im not going to get a four star hotel. Im not sure though, because course people abscond hotel. Im not sure though, beca|where course people abscond hotel. Im not sure though, beca|where theyre eople abscond hotel. Im not sure though, beca|where theyre from, abscond hotel. Im not sure though, beca|where theyre from, where nd from where theyre from, where theyre staying one theyre staying because no one wants to left in a hotel or wants to be left in a hotel or a marquee for months and months on end. Marquee for months and months on encthats i agree with thats where i agree with getting the backlog. Sorry, im just going go to some views just going to go to some views and and then well come and then and then well come back lots of you have back because lots of you have been in touch this. Been getting in touch on this. Gary says Robert Jenrick and suella are a waste of Suella Braverman are a waste of space. Are just space. The government are just weak afraid to act. Weak cowards, afraid to act. Lin says barracks full to says the barracks are full to the the barges will the brim and the barges will merely a days supply of merely take a days supply of migrants. Basically we are fill up overflowing migrants. Basically we are fill up day. Overflowing migrants. Basically we are fill up day. There overflowing migrants. Basically we are fill up day. There is overflowing migrants. Basically we are fill up day. There is averflowing migrants. Basically we are fill up day. There is a palpable] day by day. There is a palpable sense of anger about this situation. It just seems totally unfair intolerable. Alex unfair and intolerable. Alex says. Have unfair and intolerable. Alex says. In have unfair and intolerable. Alex says. In power have unfair and intolerable. Alex says. In power for have unfair and intolerable. Alex says. In power for 13 have unfair and intolerable. Alex says. In power for 13 years ve unfair and intolerable. Alex says. In power for 13 years of an been in power for 13 years of an utterly failed control utterly failed to control our borders as to how borders without a care as to how it british people. Now it impacts british people. Now theyre a theyre blaming labour. What a joke. It does seem like a lot of you seeing through you you are seeing through you or doubting bravermans doubting Suella Bravermans latest go the latest tactics to go on the offensive against labour when of course they have been in power. I theyre on i think theyre relying on trying votes of trying to get the votes of people think , well, labour people who think, well, labour will be worse. Yes, but is will just be worse. Yes, but is that enough . Is there the evidence labour be evidence that labour would be worse to this worse when it comes to this issue . Do keep views issue . Please do keep your views coming subscribe to our coming in and subscribe to our youtube follow on youtube channel. Follow us on socials. At gb news. So socials. Were at gb news. So youre watching or listening to gb sunday with me, gb news sunday with me, emily carver. Weve got more carver. Weve got lots more coming todays show, but coming up on todays show, but first, a at the first, lets take a look at the weather with rachel. First, lets take a look at the weilooks ith rachel. First, lets take a look at the weilooks ith ithings are heating looks like things are heating up. Boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good afternoon. My name is good afternoon. My name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. So today has been a much Better Weather wise for many compared to saturday. And this is because storm antonys finally clearing away to the east. Looking out to the west, there is an area of High Pressure that might just bring something little bit more something a little bit more settled monday. Settled for the south on monday. But look through to the but as we look through to the rest this showers rest of this evening, showers generally easing and becoming more confined to northern more confined and to Northern Areas, plenty of clear spells elsewhere. This combined elsewhere. And this combined with light winds, could bring the odd patch of mist and fog for some southern eastern for some southern and eastern areas. But it will also mean that temperatures will drop readily widely than readily tonight more widely than what we saw on saturday night. So rural areas seeing those temperatures into single temperatures drop into single figures. Make for figures. This will make for a fresh but bright start to monday with plenty of sunshine around a few showers once again across particularly Northern Areas. Heaviest and most frequent across northeastern parts of scotland. But after a bright start in the southwest , things start in the southwest, things starting to cloud over as this next area of cloud and rain moves in from the west, but still feeling pleasant in that sunshine throughout monday. Now sunshine throughout monday. Now looking to tuesday, plenty of cloud and rain once again moving in erratically eastwards, quite a lot of low cloud mist and drizzle for western coasts, but dner drizzle for western coasts, but drier and brighter further north. And as we look towards midweek, it does look like things will be warming up with those temperatures getting around to to maybe even around to the mid to maybe even high. Looks like things are high 20s. Looks like things are heating up for boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Its nice to know the weathers going to be cheering up a little bit. Weve got lots more coming up on todays show. The bank of england raised the bank of england has raised Interest Rates the 14th Interest Rates for the 14th consecutive chancellor consecutive time. Chancellor jeremy understands jeremy hunt says he understands that households are feeling the pain. He need to pain. But does he need to do more to out struggling more to help out struggling families . Are they actually actively trying make us actively trying to make us poorer to bring poorer in order to bring inflation all of that and inflation down . All of that and more im emily carver, more to come. Im emily carver, and watching and youre watching and listening channel welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv onune with me, emily carver on your tv online and Digital Radio. So this week, the bank of england decided to hike Interest Rates for the 14th time in a row. Chancellor jeremy for the 14th time in a row. Chancellorjeremy hunt for the 14th time in a row. Chancellor jeremy hunt told for the 14th time in a row. Chancellorjeremy hunt told gb news that latest 0. 25 news that the latest 0. 25 increase would help them to bnng increase would help them to bring down inflation without the country falling into recession. Country falling into recession. Any rise in Interest Rates is a worry for families with mortgages , for businesses with mortgages, for businesses with loans. Loans. But underneath that Rate Decision is a forecast that says that this time next year, inflation will be 2. 8 and we will have avoided a recession. And what the bank of england governor is saying is that we have a plan that is bringing down inflation solidly, robustly and consistently. And consistently. So is the bank of england and the government actively trying to make us poorer with these consecutive Interest Rate rises 7 consecutive Interest Rate rises . Do we want a chancellor that knowingly allows Interest Rates . That wont be easy for households . Or should jeremy get the sack . Quite a lot of questions there to answer. Im just not on. Im just not very impressed with the bank of england jeremy hunt, england and also jeremy hunt, there emphasis on there seems to be no emphasis on Economic Growth at all. And i do wonder if actually do want wonder if they actually do want us to go into recession. Is that the way to inflation or at the way to stop inflation or at least to bring it down . So to make sense of all this, im delighted to be joined by director and co founder of regionally, urquhart regionally, Justin Urquhart stewart. Much stewart. Thank you very much indeed us this indeed for joining us this afternoon on the sofa. So what do make of my introduction do you make of my introduction there . These Interest Rate rises, they seem to the rises, they seem to have the backing of the government. Thats pretty certain. Yes. Jeremy hunt seems have jeremy hunt seems to have welcomed so has rishi welcomed them. So has rishi sunak. Theidea welcomed them. So has rishi sunak. The idea that they sunak. The idea is that if they continue hike these rates, continue to hike these rates, inflation will come down, down. Does that also mean that we could be looking at a recession despite what they almost despite what they say almost certainly recession . Certainly cause a recession . Trouble is theyre certainly cause a recession . Actuallytrouble is theyre certainly cause a recession . Actually understandingre certainly cause a recession . Actually understanding the not actually understanding the different inflation. Different types of inflation. For those who are sad enough old enough 1970s and enough to remember 1970s and 80s, me , had 80s, unfortunately, me, you had consumer and so you had consumer booms and so you had inflation. Then based on what was coming from happening to the consumer. You raise interest consumer. So you raise Interest Rates try and rates to actually try and discourage stop people discourage them to stop people spending, now spending, essentially. Yeah. Now we this. Inflation we havent got this. Inflation is nothing to do with consumer boom. High street, boom. You go to high street, people you im people wont tell you im a consumer boom. Theyll tell you their financially frightened at consumer boom. Theyll tell you theimomentally frightened at consumer boom. Theyll tell you theimoment thisrightened at consumer boom. Theyll tell you theimoment this inflationi at consumer boom. Theyll tell you theimoment this inflation ist the moment this inflation is coming elsewhere. After covid with chains, the horrible with supply chains, the horrible things happening in things that are happening in ukraine and the production of grain sorts issues grain and those sorts of issues and course, price rises and of course, Oil Price Rises and of course, Oil Price Rises and well, thats and other fuel, well, thats come and the rice price come back and the rice price rises because whats rises because of whats happening india. Now, the happening in in india. Now, the best in the world are best one in the world are british chancellor cant control those things. Its very british chancellor cant control thosesaying;. Its very british chancellor cant control thosesaying im its very british chancellor cant control thosesaying im going very british chancellor cant control thosesaying im going to lery british chancellor cant control thosesaying im going to cut well saying im going to cut inflation down 2. How and of inflation down to 2. How and of course, bank england course, the bank of england doesnt tools like one doesnt have many tools like one andifs doesnt have many tools like one and its a bit like a man who owns a hammer. Everything sort of nail. So of looks like a nail. So inflation, well, for Interest Rates its the wrong rates up, its the wrong to thing do. If you want to thing to do. If you want to control this inflation, youve got to get more confidence coming into domestic market. Coming into the domestic market. So businesses will be investing more. Be more. Businesses will be actually have the confidence both domestically and internationally. And then all the consumer feels a little bit more confident. Theres more confident. Well, theres a bit at moment. Bit difficult at the moment. Those actions. Stake those are the actions. Stake doesnt cost a lot because you doesnt cost a lot because you do it by way of tax breaks, not giving tax back, brakes on giving tax back, but brakes on new being developed. New businesses being developed. All true, then so if thats all true, then surely hunt deserve surely jeremy hunt does deserve the sack. Got this the sack. Hes got this completely hes got it completely wrong. Hes got it back to front. So of course, the bank england are their own bank of england are their own entity. Jeremy is entity. But jeremy hunt is supporting exactly tactics supporting exactly their tactics of Interest Rate supporting exactly their tactics of up. Interest rate rises up. But wait, the bank of england rises up. independent. 3 bank of england rises up. independent. Thats of england rises up. independent. Thats because nd is independent. Thats because george told george Brown Gordon Brown told us independent. So who us it was independent. So who actually makes appoints the governor the bank of england . Governor of the bank of england . Well, the government and the treasury. Appoints treasury. Who appoints the people to be on people who are going to be on that committee . Be the that committee . That will be the treasury the government and treasury and the government and the people bank of the people inside the bank of england approved by the england are approved by the treasury government. But treasury of the government. But apart that, its completely apart from that, its completely independent. Apart from that, its completely independtools. It comes the right tools. So it comes back to the treasury and say, how do we with this type of how do we deal with this type of inflation . Goes back to inflation . And that goes back to that so actually external that point. So actually external inflation and domestic confidence. Primary inflation and domestic confid of e. Primary inflation and domestic confid of the primary inflation and domestic confid of the uk primary inflation and domestic confid of the uk economy . Primary inflation and domestic confid of the uk economy . Well,iry driver of the uk economy . Well, the biggest part of it is the Consumer Spending and also the areas greatest employment areas of greatest employment are smaller areas of greatest employment are sm. Well, what need to well, thats what we need to focus. Like people are focus. Its not like people are going out and spending huge amounts well, the amounts of money. Well, the ordinary on the street ordinary person on the street isnt really in isnt there really reining in their spending. Hard to their spending. So its hard to believe this inflation is believe that this inflation is caused people spending willy caused by people spending willy nilly. You think nilly. So, david, do you think jeremy boot . Jeremy hunt should get the boot . Yeah, i dont i didnt support him anyway coming in. I think in a coup, think he came in in a coup, didnt he . And liz truss time. So theres all that was so you know theres all that was a a coup. Yeah. So i mean a bit of a coup. Yeah. So i mean really that was mean. Im no fan of any of them, but i think the way came was really, way he came in was really, really appalling, really badly done. Know, what hes done. So, you know, what hes doing at the moment is really hurting or already hurting people or already hurting, house hurting, you know, because house mortgage are Mortgage Rates are up, rents are up, Energy Prices are up. Council is up. Food Prices Council tax is up. Food prices are petrol are up. Are up, petrol prices are up. And then hes putting the interest up even more. Interest rates up even more. I mean, you can see if he wants to put a some kind of cap or , you put a some kind of cap or, you know, to slow down house price rises, which might be good to keep them down to 5 or 10 a yean keep them down to 5 or 10 a year, 2 a year. Yes. You have to put Interest Rates up a little bit. But i think he should have stopped before now mode, i think. Yeah. Matthew carroll has just written in and she says its all so depressing. Everything seems hopeless. Too many fears about the many naysayer fears about the uk. Need return to being a uk. We need to return to being a can do country. You have can do country. Do you have any positive on whats been positive spin on whats been going on when it comes to the economy . There are signs at least, that inflation is starting to go down. Weve maybe had the worst of it. Had the worst of it. Its really difficult for any of us to double guess what the bank of england is trying to do and to work out whether we could suggest something more positive in policy terms. And we talked briefly just then about liz trusss government. I think the trusss government. I think the majority of people this majority of people in this country think she was the country would think she was the most Prime Minister country would think she was the most ever Prime Minister country would think she was the most ever youre minister country would think she was the most ever youre rightter country would think she was the most ever youre right. Er weve ever had. Youre right. The economy, though some would argue helped argue she did or helped contribute towards it. I think contribute towards it. I think people will associate it. People will associate it. Interest rises, interest Interest Rate rises, Interest Rate rises and their mortgages going with the conservative going up with the conservative party election. Party at the next election. Because of what liz truss did. If you look back to gordon brown, absolutely right. Brown, youre absolutely right. He took Interest Rates out of the government. The realm of government. He wanted them. So wanted to depoliticise them. So its very difficult unless the government the on government changes the law on that. Repealing despises that. And repealing despises them. Very difficult for them. Its very difficult for them. Its very difficult for the government to know quite to what do these circumstances. What do in these circumstances. I if had i mean, if you had a conservative chancellor saying that of the bank of that the governor of the bank of england all wrong, england had got it all wrong, then be in a real pickle. Then wed be in a real pickle. Its very difficult. Very sadly, thats all weve time sadly, thats all weve got time for. Much for for. Thank you so much for coming the studio, justin coming into the studio, Justin Urquhart stewart there, and of course, wonderful course, my wonderful panel, david Matthew Stadlen david kirton and Matthew Stadlen. Right, youre watching or. So right, youre watching or listening news sunday with listening to gb news sunday with me, weve got listening to gb news sunday with me, more weve got listening to gb news sunday with me, more coming weve got listening to gb news sunday with me, more coming upleve got listening to gb news sunday with me, more coming up on e got listening to gb news sunday with me, more coming up on todays lots more coming up on todays show. Keir starmer has been accused sabotage efforts to accused of sabotage efforts to stop small meanwhile stop the small boats. Meanwhile while party have while the labour party have stood councillor stood by a councillor that posted a video to tiktok highlight fighting legal immigration. Is this immigration loopholes. Is this really the message they want to send voters . But first, lets send to voters . But first, lets get the news with rory. Get the news with rory. Thank you very much, emily. Those who have been wrongfully convicted of crimes will no longer have their living costs docked from their compensation payments. A new guidance issued payments. A new guidance issued by justice secretary alex chalk comes into immediate effect today. Comes into immediate effect today. It follows the today. It follows the controversy sparked by the jailing of Andrew Malkinson , who jailing of Andrew Malkinson, who spent 17 years behind bars for a crime he did not commit. He voiced his concerns that expenses may be deducted from his compensation , prompting his compensation, prompting downing street to make urgent amendments. The National Crime amendments. The National Crime agency is teaming up with social media firms to crack down on posts by people smugglers who are encouraging Asylum Seekers to cross the Channel Group discounts free spaces for children and offers a false documents are among the posts the Prime Minister wants removed to help achieve his promise to stop the boats. Minister for immigration Robert Jenrick told us here gb news that migrants come to the uk because of a so called soft touch approach to immigration. Ukraines so called soft touch approach to immigration. Ukraines president immigration. Ukraines president Vladimir Zelenskyy, is accusing russia of bombing a Blood Transfusion Centre in the northwest of the country. Mr northwest of the country. Mr zelenskyy claims a number of people are dead and others are injured. But the president did not disclose how many fatalities there are. He described the strike in the eastern Kharkiv Region as a war crime. Theres so far been no comment from russia. Storm anthony saw 78 russia. Storm anthony saw 78 mile per hour winds hit some parts of the uk yesterday, blocking 100 miles of railway between exeter and penzance. About half a months worth of rain fell in some areas, with a number of people evacuated from their homes in North Yorkshire due to flooding. Gusts of 78 miles an hour were measured at berryhill in devon, while 43mm of rain fell in scarborough in nonh of rain fell in scarborough in North Yorkshire. Almost half of augusts average rainfall. So augusts average rainfall. So thats the up to date. But you thats the up to date. But you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website. Thatis stories by visiting our website. That is gb news news. Com. Tv, online and radio. Now before the break, we did discuss s Suella Bravermans allegations as shes accused keir starmer of sabotaging her plans, working with a web of cronies to sabotage her plans to stop the boats. We asked whether labour would be worse on illegal immigration or if theyve got a better plan. Would they stop the boats . Would they with the boats . Would they deal with the backlog . It doesnt backlog quicker . It doesnt seem like you have much. Like many of you have much. Well, hopes for the well, strong hopes for the labour party if they were in charge. Mel wigan says if charge. Mel from wigan says if labour will be doomed. Labour get in we will be doomed. We a tough approach we need a tough approach on immigration written in. Immigration and hes written in. Youve a Labour Government youve said a Labour Government would an door policy would have an open door policy on immigration. A Labour Government is a serious danger to and finances as to our security and finances as it doesnt seem like theres lots doesnt like lots of doesnt seem like theres quite a diversity of opinion on this one, avril says labour would most definitely be worse than the conservatives on immigration. It was labour that opened the floodgates, not initially. There you go, initially. So there you go, strong from people at home strong stuff from people at home and this is a problem for the labour party if they want people to them on immigration, to trust them on immigration, theyre have well, theyre going to have to well, not just and block the not just try and block the conservatives plans, come conservatives plans, but come up with something will deal with something that will deal with something that will deal with problem themselves. But with the problem themselves. But anyway, on. Me anyway, lets move on. Let me know about that. Know what you think about that. So of ten tory party so eight out of ten tory Party Members want sunak to ditch the 2030 and diesel car ban. 2030 petrol and diesel car ban. A poll of them published by the conservative home website found that 83 believe the government was ban sale of was wrong to ban the sale of petrol and diesel cars. So joining me now is motoring journalist quentin willson. Journalist quentin willson. Quentin, thank you very much indeed for joining quentin, thank you very much indeed forjoining me. I believe youre in sunny bordeaux, which is rather nice. Yes. So this ban is rather nice. Yes. So this ban , do you think this ban firstly is it realistic . I know that some other European Countries have decided to backtrack a bit on that date , havent they . On that date, havent they . Well, emily, look , you can well, emily, look, you can drive a petrol car , own a petrol drive a petrol car, own a petrol car until 2035. So thats 12 years. Itll be a hybrid, but you can drive that car without ever having to charge it. So feel that its all going to stop after 2030 is wrong and you can carry on buying a second hand diesel or petrol car and driving it till you drop dead. So the it till you drop dead. So the hysteria surrounding it is a little bit kind of, you know, extreme. The telegraph survey, which is a conservative home, as you say, there was only 695 respondents. Now i spoke to a Leasing Company yesterday , Leasing Company yesterday, tuska, and theyve got 29,000 cars on on lease. And theyve done a survey with 1200 people, which is almost double the conservative home1 and 92. And these are 20 taxpayers. Emily theyre on salary sacrifice for their and factory workers and shop workers. 92 said they were shop workers. 92 said they were satisfied or very satisfied with their evs. 76 will choose an eevee for the next car. 96 say theyre ev is reliable or very reliable. Then, with another survey , 3200 people 737 would survey, 3200 people 737 would like an or have considered getting one. So were being told not to buy evs by people who have never owned and never dnven have never owned and never driven them. So we need factual accuracy and we need a kind of, you know, a clear statement of what people think about evs once theyve driven them and owned them. Them. Thats very interesting. Quentin, do you have an electric vehicle . One . Ive vehicle . Would you buy one . Ive got one. Yeah, absolutely. Ive got two. And ive driven to france in and its sitting outside in one and its sitting outside and three and a bit stops to charge and was fine. 760 charge and it was fine. 760 miles. So your viewers need to understand you can do Long Distance in them and also because these low tax tax people , these these salary sacrifice, you can afford them in octopus is doing a thing now where you can have a second hand ev include ing electricity charging and insurance for £300 a month. Ive spoken to quentin. I think i think a lot of people are worried about whether the infrastructure is in place to allow for so many people to switch to electric vehicles. And switch to electric vehicles. And of course, people are considering switching to electric vehicle because theyre worried about the potential ban on sales of petrol and diesel. Theyre worried about the additional that people theyre worried about the addit to al that people theyre worried about the additto spend, that people theyre worried about the additto spend, forat people theyre worried about the addit to spend, for example, with have to spend, for example, with the scheme and other green the ulez scheme and other green schemes country. So schemes around the country. So its, you know, it makes sense for to looking at for people to be looking at electric vehicles because they dont want to be charged huge amounts down the road. Amounts of money down the road. But a worry about but is there a worry a, about the infrastructure . And secondly, are we secondly, how on earth are we going produce enough going to produce enough electricity everyone to electricity to power everyone to use electric vehicle . Does use an electric vehicle . Does seem quite difficult. Seem quite difficult. The infrastructure is certainly needs improving. Weve got seven years till 2030 National Grid. Ive spoken to them. They said its going to be them. They said its going to be fine. Weve got four gigawatts of wind coming in. And also, youve got to remember, emily, that 80 of electric car drivers charge at home at night on low tariff Renewable Energy , which tariff Renewable Energy, which is about sort of six per mile. So, you know , that hysteria so, you know, that hysteria about public charging , yes, we about public charging, yes, we need more, but youll find many, many people. My daughter is in devon now charging her car at home and its electric and its absolutely fine. So, yes, lets get more charges. But lets not fear this and tow the whole thing out to sea and sink it with gunfire. Well, there you go. You may have turned some electric vehicle sceptics with this interview. Thank you very much indeed. Wilson, there, a indeed. Quentin wilson, there, a motoring journalist and a fabulous one at that. So my panel , matthew, ill come to you panel, matthew, ill come to you first. Electric vehicles. I mean, do you own one . No. Do you think that it is fair to say that certain Government Policies have been anti car . Have been anti car . I dont think its about being anti car. Its about being pro their commitments to net zero. So dont forget, it was a conservative government that signed into law. Its own pledge to reach its net zero targets. I think what were seeing now is rishi sunak, a Prime Minister who is panicking. He was handed who is panicking. He was handed what he , i think mistakenly what he, i think mistakenly believes is a tiny lifeline by as tiny majority victory in holding on to the uxbridge constituency that i think people expected probably would swing. Expected probably would swing. And hes now racing frantically to try and fish a few votes out of the water by backtracking on some of his environmental policies. Yes. No, i completely get that. And i agree to a large extent. But david, should it really be the job of government to ban sales on quite useful products such as petrol and diesel cars . Absolutely not. And particularly the conservative government , which is supposed to government, which is supposed to be for the free market. I mean, you let the free market decide theres a new product , theres theres a new product, theres electric vehicles, so you let consumers do you want to consumers decide. Do you want to buy diesel or electric buy petrol or diesel or electric vehicles . Its absolutely right i i i should have asked quentin there, why do we need a ban if electric vehicles are so brilliant, as he describes . Exactly. If theyre so great, then people will go out and buy them in numbers. But the thing in big numbers. But the thing is, more expensive. What is, theyre more expensive. What he about National Grid he said about the National Grid having for having enough power for all these vehicles are these electric vehicles that are supposed coming online. Supposed to be coming online. I dont think its true at all. I mean, theres 39 million vehicles in the uk at the moment. Theres about half a million that are electric. So thats 3, something thats what, 2 or 3, Something Like that and you replace like that. And if you replace all 39 million vehicles and with petrol and diesel vehicles with electric vehicles, theres not going to be grid would not be able in the National Grid at able to in the National Grid at all. So thats absolute nonsense. And also the other thing , they so much cobalt thing, they need so much cobalt and lithium. And i think this is one thing that people are really very, very concerned about is the child labour in mining these minerals in congo, in places like that. Theres not enough cobalt and lithium in the whole world. On, hang for on just world. Hang on, hang for on just stop you there because clayton has actually listening to has actually been listening to what been saying. Has actually been listening to whtdavid, been saying. Has actually been listening to whtdavid, and en saying. Has actually been listening to whtdavid, and in saying. Has actually been listening to whtdavid, and i believe. Has actually been listening to whtdavid, and i believe hes david, and i believe hes still apparently, was still there. Apparently, he was shaking behind zoom shaking his head behind the zoom screen. Bring screen. So weve got to bring you back. Why were you shaking your head, david . Quentin, sorry i so first, there are 1. 2 million in cars in the uk. Million plug in cars in the uk. They mean the tesla model y is the best selling car in the world, not just the best selling car, but the best selling electric as well. So you electric car as well. So you know, there is popularity there. The sales have gone gone up massively this year, 97 increase. And the grids say they will be able to cope. And i talked to them on a regular basis. And as for the cobalt and lithium, look, half of teslas have whats known as batteries, which dont have any cobalt in them at all. And youve got lots and lots of other cars that are now getting batteries. So this reliance cobalt will fade. Reliance on cobalt will fade. Its much , much, much reduced its much, much, much reduced now than it was, say, ten years ago. And there are issues in the drc with the chinese mines. But all the european car makers have signed a thing called the fair cobau signed a thing called the fair cobalt alliance, which sends these kids to schools and not put them in mine. So thats all being addressed. And we arent going to run out of all these these these minerals. Mean lithium is really, really plentiful. But the batteries will change. Weve got a solid state batteries coming up. Weve got semi solid state batteries now in use in cars. So the Technology Changes the reliance on on on Rare Earth Minerals is going to be less and look, the data says that people are buying these cars and theyre enjoying them. Yeah, well, you put forward a very convincing case there, quentin. Thank you very much indeed for hanging on the line and coming back on that point. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you very much indeed. Right. Going to move on. Thank you very much indeed. Rigisorry, going to move on. Thank you very much indeed. Rigisorry, matthew, o move on. Thank you very much indeed. Rigisorry, matthew, g01ove on. Thank you very much indeed. Rigisorry, matthew, go one on. Thank you very much indeed. Rigisorry, matthew, go on. Very oh, sorry, matthew, go on. Very quick. Very quickly. Very quickly. Im someone who does, unsurprisingly, believe that climate happening, unsurprisingly, believe that clim we happening, unsurprisingly, believe that clim we have happening, unsurprisingly, believe that clim we have to happening, unsurprisingly, believe that clim we have to dorappening, unsurprisingly, believe that clim we have to do something that we have to do something about also someone about it. But im also someone who that things where who thinks that things where they can be should affordable they can be should be affordable and lower incomes, and people on lower incomes, people really cant afford people who really cant afford stuff should be helped by the government, by a responsible government, by a responsible government, much as possible. Government, as much as possible. So youre scrappage so if youre doing a scrappage scheme part of ulez, you have scheme as part of ulez, you have to people can to make sure that people can really afford to change their cars. Otherwise its simply unfair. No one wants to go around penalising people. And just very finally, its not just about the wider environment. Its not just about Climate Change. It is about toxic change. It is also about toxic air. Londoner, born and air. I am a londoner, born and bred, and i can you the air bred, and i can tell you the air now and in the last few years is the worst i can ever remember. Thats actually borne it is. Thats actually borne out the statistics, though. Out by the statistics, though. Im that the air is im not saying that the air is really , but it does seem really clean, but it does seem to certain areas its to have in certain areas its really, bad if its if it really, really bad if its if it if is starting to get better if it is starting to get better again in, then thats presumably partly because we are changing policy. We can debate that policy. Well we can debate that another but its an another time, but its an interesting because the data interesting one because the data does show that pollution in Central London has got much better and in Greater London as well. Regardless of these ulez schemes, its cars are cleaner , schemes, its cars are cleaner, thankfully, and theyre getting cleaner. But i just cos of you people, thats presumably partly because aggressive though because of aggressive though i dont need the aggressive anyway. Move on. Anyway. Were going to move on. Well to that. Lots of well come back to that. Lots of people saying electric people have been saying electric vehicles too vehicles are just way too expensive know, expensive and you know, they dont much hand dont have much second hand value you know, theres not value and you know, theres not enough infrastructure. Et enough infrastructure. Et cetera. Cetera. For lot of cetera. Et cetera. For a lot of people, they want the people, they just want the knowledge they the knowledge that they can put the petrol their car and they petrol in their car and they know how long it will run for. And for. And they dont and last for. And they dont have about how long it have to worry about how long it takes to charge batteries. Takes to charge their batteries. But perhaps you are but let me know, perhaps you are a electric vehicle. Convert and think thing think theyre the best thing since sliced but anyway, since sliced bread. But anyway, believe it or not, the labour party is standing by a councillor who posted online videos highlighting immigration councillor who posted online videos higin ghting immigration councillor who posted online videos higin gitiktokrmigration loopholes in a tiktok video. Labour lawyer labour councillor and lawyer erum she can help those erum ali said she can help those here illegally or have here illegally or who have overstayed visas to make overstayed their visas to make their case to the home office. So essentially trying to help Illegal Migrants who are in this country a visa to make their country get a visa to make their case to the home office, be able to stay for here a longer period of time or forever. So lets take a look at one of her videos. Hi, listeners. Hi, listeners. Erum ali here. Immigration solicit. Where are you in the uk solicit. Where are you in the uk without a valid visa . Are you without a valid visa . Are you illegal or have you overstayed your visa . Do not fear erum ali is here to help you regularise your visa in the uk and submit an application to the home office based on your human rights. It is extremely important to make sure you become legal in the uk. There is become legal in the uk. There is an extremely hostile environment for overstayers here, so you must make sure that you can submit an application to the home office, become legal and be en route to indefinite leave to remain so, contact me. Lets have that conversation and work out what needs to. Be done to get your stay here in the uk. Your stay here in the uk. Never fear erimalai is here. Apparently while immigration minister Robert Jenrick has told gb news he believes this reflects the labour partys approach to immigration , of approach to immigration, of course he has. It is an example of what the labour party really thinks and as far as i can tell absolutely nothing has been said or done with respect to that lady. Thats wrong and that shows what labour behind the mask really thinks about this issue. Thinks about this issue. So in response to the video, a labour source has said erramalli has been spoken to and acknowledges the language, the language in the video wasnt appropriate and shes taken it down. This isnt about language, is it . David this is actually scandalous that she is trying to appeal to Illegal Migrants in order to fix their status here. Yeah, i mean, theres no thats encouraging. Yeah. Illegality surely. Yeah. Illegality surely. Well, look, she has free speech, so she can say that if she wants to. The thing is, there are these loopholes. But i think its deplorable that somebody who is a labour councillor, of councillor, representative of a Political Party is actually encouraging people to exploit these i think is these loopholes i think is absolutely terrible that shes doing that. But they do exist and it comes back to what we said before. The conservatives who are like having a go at her have power for 13 years, have been in power for 13 years, but theyve done nothing to close these loopholes they close these loopholes and they should more action in close these loopholes and they sho past more action in close these loopholes and they sho past to more action in close these loopholes and they sho past to make more action in close these loopholes and they sho past to make sure re action in close these loopholes and they sho past to make sure thistion in the past to make sure this doesnt happen, because they doesnt happen, because if they havent, someone havent, so obviously someone like her can come along and say , well, look, im a lawyer, come to , you can have my services. To me, you can have my services. And its all legal, but its deplorable, obviously. And they will theyre appealing to their voter base, course. Voter base, of course. Matthew, do but matthew, do you understand why people be understand why people would be outraged this . Outraged by this . First all, i think davids first of all, i think davids already that already acknowledged that we have and also you have free speech. And also you guys very much as micro guys are very much as a micro market economy, i believe in a certain amount of regulation, as im do to some extent, im sure you do to some extent, anyway. So shes presumably entitled to have said what she said. Shes one labour councillor. Actually councillor. I actually think that is the shadow that Yvette Cooper is the shadow home secretary. Be and home secretary. She will be and intends be pretty tough on intends to be pretty tough on illegal immigration. And if you illegal immigration. And if you look at her record, if you look at the shadow chancellor as well, rachel reeves, shes actually that ive actually said stuff that ive not particularly with. I not particularly agreed with. I think a bit far, think shes gone a bit too far, become too strong in that become a bit too strong in that area. And to say, area. And also just to say, look, we have human rights in this country. One of the great this country. One of the great things about britain and im a great fan of my country, our country is that we uphold the rule law. People are entitled rule of law. People are entitled to representation. And to representation. And the governments trying do governments been trying to do away that, with away with that, with that, with their bill, so their immigration bill, so that people come can just be people who come here can just be swept aside without any real legal representation. I think we want hold on to the values want to hold on to the values that really matter to us. I sorry, but im sorry. People at home listening and watching are sick of watching today are sick of heanng watching today are sick of hearing about taxpayers money going towards legal representation for people who have come to this country illegally. People are sick and tired of everybody costing our country huge amounts of money. There is no reason that this should be the state of affairs and this labour councillor in my view, i cannot understand and why the labour party have stood by her and talked about her language. And talked about her language. Its not her language, its what shes saying they doing. They havent stood by her. And i think its important as a presenter, but also as guests on your and im grateful to your show. And im grateful to be dont make be here that we dont make assumptions our audience. Assumptions about our audience. Right. Of right. People have a variety of views, watching gb views, presumably watching gb news, and i think a lot of people watching might very well believe the principle of believe in the principle of human rights. That doesnt mean that we shouldnt cracking that we shouldnt be cracking down gangs. It doesnt down on the gangs. It doesnt mean the mean that the police and the border agencies indeed our border agencies and indeed our government be doing government should not be doing their a tory councillor was on if a tory councillor was on tiktok saying these are the ways you can stop, avoid paying tax , you can stop, avoid paying tax, yes, that would be you know, thats similar, isnt it . Although i think this is more egregious. You know, egregious. But, you know, look at these loopholes you at all these loopholes that you can stop paying tax. Im can use to stop paying tax. Im not sure that tory councillor would nice reception from not sure that tory councillor w0llabour nice reception from not sure that tory councillor w0llabour party. Reception from the labour party. People who, know, some people who, you know, take advantage and park take advantage of that and park their money in the Virgin Islands or Something Like that. Im the labour im sure people in the labour party be very party wouldnt be very happy about all. No, about that at all. But no, i mean this is a huge problem and its, you if theres 100 its, you know, if theres 100 or 1000 odd people to the or 1000 odd people coming to the country illegally, you know, it wouldnt problem. They wouldnt be a big problem. They shouldnt do it. But its now its because theres hundreds of thousands communities cant cope because hotels because youre Getting Hotels filled up. Youre getting staff in those hotels being kicked out of home office comes of jobs as the home office comes in takes them over. In and takes them over. And theres associated crime, i think people just go along with it. It. People are taking absolute liberties anyway. You are watching listening to gb watching and listening to gb news me, emily news sunday with me, emily carver. Got lots more carver. Weve got lots more coming up on todays show. But before get all of it and before we get to all of it and we do have huge amount coming before we get to all of it and we so have huge amount coming before we get to all of it and we so stay huge amount coming before we get to all of it and we so stay with|ge amount coming before we get to all of it and we so stay with us. Amount coming before we get to all of it and we so stay with us. Letsnt coming before we get to all of it and we so stay with us. Lets take ming up, so stay with us. Lets take a look at the weather with rachel. The temperatures rising. Boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello, my name is rachel ayers and welcome to our latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. So after an unsettled start to the weekend, things do look better for the second half of the weekend as storm anthony moves away to the east, putting us in this northwest easterly airflow. So bringing us some showers today, but also plenty of sunny spells for many, it will be a dry day. The showers will be dry day. The showers will be mostly focussed down the central spine of the uk, heaviest across scotland and Northern England and northern ireland. We could also see the odd rumble of thunder, though, with a lighter winds still brisk down. Some eastern coasts feeling more pleasant than it did on saturday. So as we go through this evening, those showers will continue for a time , but continue for a time, but becoming increasingly confined to Northern Areas with clear spells developing elsewhere. And spells developing elsewhere. And with those light winds, that could mean we see the odd patch of mist and fog for some southern and eastern areas. But temperatures will drop a little bit more readily again tonight. Bit more readily again tonight. So more a chilly night so more widely, a chilly night with temperatures in rural areas dropping into single figures. So a fresh, bright start to the new week. We will see a few showers developing again, mostly across the northern half of the uk. Plenty of brightness in the southwest. At first, but cloud starting to move into the afternoon as we get the next low pressure system moving in and once again feeling pleasant in the sunshine in the temperatures rising , a the sunshine in the temperatures rising, a boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news sponsors of weather on. Gb news thank you very much, rachel, for bringing us the Weather Forecast there. So weve got lots more coming up on todays show. I think its been a brilliant one so far. Lots of feisty debate. So Suella Braverman. This is our big story of the day. Has accused sir keir starmer of blocking sabotage. Her to end cross channel her efforts to end cross channel migration the hello, this is gb news sunday. Im emily carver. Thank you very much indeed forjoining us this much indeed for joining us this lunchtime. So for the next hour, i will be keeping you company on tv, online and radio. So coming up this hour, home secretary Suella Braverman suella Suella Braverman cries sabotage accused sabotage. Shes accused keir starmer of blocking asylum laws, but insists labour will try but he insists labour will try to clear the 13 year tory backlog. What do you make of all backlog. What do you make of all that . And is the government silently privatised the nhs independent firms are going to carry out hundreds of thousands of scans tests as ministers vow to cut record waiting lists. So will this help tackle the ever growing waiting list . Are the tories trying to privatise our nhs through the back door . Lets see then stick with us to the end of the hour. Well find out why the on board train wi fi has been denying access to gender critical websites. So please do get in touch on all of that. Apparently you cant visit sex matters on a Great Western rail train, so well find out what thats all about. Please do get in touch. Send us your thoughts on gbviews gbnews. Com or tweet me at gb news. But first, lets get the News Headlines with rory i thank 5mm thank you very much, emily. Those who have been wrongfully convicted of crimes will no longer have their living costs docked from their compensation payments. New guidance issued by justice secretary alex chalk comes into immediate effect today. It follows the controversy sparked by the jailing of Andrew Malkinson , who jailing of Andrew Malkinson, who spent 17 years behind bars for a crime he did not commit. He voiced his concerns that expensive may be deducted from his compensation motion, prompting downing street to make urgent amendments. Prompting downing street to make urgent amendments. The prompting downing street to make urgent amendments. The National Crime agency is teaming up with social media firms to crack down on posts by people smugglers who are encouraging Asylum Seekers to cross the channel. The Prime Minister says the new partnership between Law Enforcement and tech giants will tackle attempts to lure migrants into paying to make the journey. Group discounts free spaces for children and offers a false documents. Case are amongst the documents. Case are amongst the posts at rishi sunak. Once posts at rishi sunak. Once removed to help achieve his promise to stop the boats. Minister for immigration Robert Jenrick told us here at gb news that deterrence is a key part of the governments plan to tackle the governments plan to tackle the small boats crisis. 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They were scored on their ability to imitate the animals in different categories, like the call of a young deer. A categories, like the call of a young deer. A gb news is across the uk on tv in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. Now, though, back to. Now, though, back to. Emily thank you, rory. So our top story of the show, the home secretary has accused keir starmer of trying to sabotage her attempts to end the illegal migration crisis. Suella braverman claims the labour leader has a web cronies who leader has a web of cronies who are any effort to stop are blocking any effort to stop small boat crossings from calais. Me now is gb calais. So joining me now is gb news Political Correspondent olivia utley olivia. It seems olivia utley olivia. It seems there she is, olivia Suella Braverman. She seems to be on braverman. She seems to be on the offensive, doesnt she . She absolutely does. And since those byelections a few weeks ago where we saw the conservatives unexpected win the seat of uxbridge because it essentially turned into a referendum over the ulez issue , referendum over the ulez issue, the conservatives have decided that the way they can possibly claw back a bit of momentum from labour and maybe even win a general election is to find a wedge issues between themselves and keir starmer. Those issues that the public really, really care about, where they think they have a stronger line than starmer and illegal immigration is very clearly one of them. Faux pas groups and polls over and over again show very clearly that the people are on the side of the governments. Rwanda plan. They the idea of deporting they like the idea of deporting migrants Illegal Migrants to rwanda while their claims are being proved processed. And this is a really useful sort of angle for the government because keir starmer has repeatedly opposed the governments rwanda plan. Now, whats quite interesting about this is keir starmer has been very careful in his opposition to the plan because he knows that the public likes it. So what hes been saying isnt that he doesnt isnt so much that he doesnt think plan for moral think its a good plan for moral reasons, says simply that it reasons, he says simply that it just wont work. To be fair just wont work. And to be fair to so far, the evidence is to him so far, the evidence is in favour. We saw those in his favour. We saw those rwanda flights being stalled at the minute last year rwanda flights being stalled at the ofnute last year rwanda flights being stalled at the of human;t year rwanda flights being stalled at the of human rights lawyers because of human rights lawyers complaining. So now were seeing this issue where Suella Braverman is attacking the labour leader , keir starmer, on labour leader, keir starmer, on the grounds that one of the lawyers who is working on the labour election manifesto for next year, a woman called Jacqueline Mckenzie , is Jacqueline Mckenzie, is apparently very heavily involved in the in one of the groups that are that are opposing the rwanda plan. So Suella Braverman is hoping that she can sort of crack through Keir Starmers defence that he doesnt oppose the plan for moral reasons. He simply opposes it for practical reasons the reasons by showing that the people is hanging around people who he is hanging around with dont like the rwanda plan. Full stop. And you can see that full stop. And you can see that the government has deployed pretty similar tactics before. Its all about who keir starmer is hanging around with. When it showed that it was revealed showed that that it was revealed that were extinct that there were extinct rebellion donors who were also donating to the labour party. Donating to the labour party. That was real fuel for the conservatives fire. So this is a really good example of one of those wedge issues where Suella Braverman and rishi sunak think that they have the upper hand and are very keen to use it. Its quite interesting, isnt it, because of course the conservatives are to conservatives are trying to appear illegal appear tough on illegal migration. Suella braverman saying there that it is the labour party and his cronies that are stopping, trying to block their efforts , but also block their efforts, but also the labour party is talking quite tough as well in so far as they are saying that they would keep barges for keeping migrants on, they would keep military military bases if they form a government. So theyre not saying we do away with absolutely everything. The conservatives are doing. Is that an acceptance that people, the majority of people in this country do want something quite tough to be done . But then keir tough to be done . But then keir starmer has to deal with those in party who would like to in his party who would like to see a more open border policy. See a more open border policy. Well, absolutely. This is the well, absolutely. This is the exact problem for keir starmer. He knows as we all know, that the public as a whole are very pro tackling illegal migration over and over again. It comes either top or second on peoples list of their top priorities. So as you say, the labour frontbench are very keen to say that they are to going tackle illegal migration. They say that their only opposition to the rwanda plan is that it isnt practical and their plans would be as tough as the conservative plans. But but more bit easier to put effect and more to put into effect and more practicable , or whether that practicable, or whether that will hold true as we get nearer to a general election remains to be seen because as you say, there are those both in the Labour Parliamentary Party and in the labour Party Members more widely, many of whom became labour Party Members under Jeremy Corbyn and who are much more keen on on a fully sort of open borders policy and dont really see the issue with high levels of migration and in some cases dont even see the issue with high levels of illegal migration. So keir starmer is really fighting to battles on this front, a battle with the general public the battle general public and the battle with own and is with his own party. And this is why conservatives are why the conservatives are really, really keen to get in there now and suggest that they have the upper hand, that on this they are united, this issue they are united, which they clearly are. Which they very clearly are. When we saw the rwanda plan Going Parliament going through Parliament Last week, opposition from week, it had no opposition from conservative i think conservative mps. So i think this is an issue which the conservatives will want to shout about over the coming weeks. Thank much indeed. Thank you very much indeed. Olivia political olivia utley our Political Correspondent from sunny bournemouth. You very much bournemouth. Thank you very much indeed. Me for the next indeed. So with me for the next houn indeed. So with me for the next hour, political commentator matthew and leader of Matthew Stadlen and leader of the party, david kirton the heritage party, david kirton. Matthew, im going to come to you. Olivia had a lot to say there about what the conservatives are trying to do tactically. Do you agree that this is too essentially this is too well, essentially have this issue be one of their wedge issues that can wedge issues that they can monopolise, least some monopolise, at least some support and gain back a bit of support and gain back a bit of support that they may lost . Support that they may have lost . So first of all, olivia so i think, first of all, olivia was suggesting may be was suggesting that there may be some mps out there who some labour mps out there who are open borders. Are pro open borders. I mean, i dont know any labour mps the likes of zara sultana , who well want sultana, who may well want a very policy. Do you know very liberal policy. Do you know of any labour who actually of any labour mp who actually wants have an border . Wants to have an open border . I dont. Jeremy corbyn, thankfully, no longer thankfully, is no longer a labour mp and im sure he wouldnt even say that we want open borders. Is a nonsense open borders. This is a nonsense. This is a distraction. This is desperate tactics from a desperate tactics from a desperate home secretary, from a desperate home secretary, from a desperate government who are incompetent and have failed to get a grip on something that hang on, something that olivia and you would say people care about. But do you people care have been obstacles put in their way, i. E. Why hasnt this rwanda policy . No, i dont agree because because there have been legal challenges against it. I dont i dont agree on precise because i and i think david agrees with me. But well hear from him in a second. Do not believe that rwanda is coming anywhere close to scratching the surface of solving this issue. Solving this issue. Well, david, yes , it seems well, david, yes, it seems like most people in my inbox , like most people in my inbox, although do keep your views coming in, are saying that labour would most certainly be worse than the conservatives when it comes to illegal migration. Even if matthew says that there are no there is no one in the labour party who really believes in open borders, there are quite a lot of people at home who think, well, actually do , even if thats actually they do, even if thats wrong, thats the perception. Well, labour will terrible well, labour will be terrible , but i dont know if theyd be worse than what call the fake worse than what i call the fake conservatives because say conservatives because they say theyre reduce theyre going to reduce immigration single immigration every single year, every election. But now every single election. But now its 606,000 net into the country and weve had record illegal immigration across the channel last year of 48,000. Were already on 15,000 this yeah were already on 15,000 this year. So were on course to beat that because of course, more people come over in the summer, august, september and so on. So the rwanda scheme is something that theyre playing politics with. Its a straw man. It isnt going to do anything. So the conservatives are getting bashed here from both sides, the left and from sides, from the left and from the right, theyre not the right, saying theyre not doing this all doing enough. And this is all a big distraction. Has big distraction. Eddie has written in. He says, i voted labour for over 35 years, but could never trust or vote for them again. They changed their minds weather and that minds like the weather and that is an issue. Keir starmer may well next election by well win this next election by default because a default because there is a massive amount of support for the anti tory ticket as it were. Lots of people want to boot out the conservatives. Its quite a strong line to say, do you feel better off than you did 13 years ago . A lot of people will say absolutely not. Because of the current cost of living crisis, stagnant cetera. Et stagnant wages. Et cetera. Et cetera. But our labour actually cetera. But our labour actually offering and i know you dont speak for the labour party, but do you believe that they are offering that really offering anything that really sets apart . So the sets them apart . So the conservatives the conservatives first of all, the reason almost 11 million of reason that almost 11 million of us, weve told are us, weve been told are struggling to pay our bills and lets remember that what is lets remember that is what is really people up really impacting on people up and the country. And down the country. Its not because people its not because of people coming boats, whatever coming over on boats, whatever you it 7 million a you think, does it 7 million a day, it doesnt make much difference. The reason is because rampant inflation and because of rampant inflation and the get the governments failure to get a on we talked a handle on that. We talked earlier the rights and earlier about the rights and wrongs the bank of wrongs of the of the bank of england Interest Rates england raising Interest Rates as as as far as the leader as far as as far as the leader of labour party is of the labour party is concerned, can understand of the labour party is con youed, can understand of the labour party is con you know, can understand of the labour party is con you know, this understand of the labour party is con you know, this because|nd and you know, this because youre savvy political , emily, youre savvy political, emily, if youre in opposition, you dont want to go too early with major policies because you dont want them to be nicked by the party in power. And also it is, i think wed agree keir starmer was election to lose and therefore he is going to be risk averse by that. Do i do i think that keir starmer is as charismatic like him or loathe him as tony blair . No, i dont. Do i think hes pretty sensible . Do i think hes responsible . Do i think he is a better bet to solve our economic woes than rishi sunak . Yes, do. Well, he makes ed miliband look charismatic. Yeah , he does. I mean, yeah, he does. I mean, theyre not going to do anything of any value or any consequence. They dont have anything that is a vision for the future of the country. Its more immigration , country. Its more immigration, its more net zero, its more climate alarmism, its more wokery , its more transgenderism wokery, its more transgenderism , its more of the running down of the excellence in schools. So identity politics im very worried about when it comes to the labor party, a lot of people are indeed. I mean, weve seen not just when it comes to gender issues, but of course race issues but of course race, race issues as well. It does seem the as well. It does seem like the labour party us to take Us Labour Party wants us to take us down even more of a dangerous route. Weve email route. So weve got an email from andrew slippery from andrew saying slippery starmer hell tackle starmer might say hell tackle immigration flip immigration now, but would flip flop borders and waving flop to open borders and waving all migrants in once in power. People believe this stuff, people do believe this stuff, matthew she matthew is matthew and she says matthew is being because he being disingenuous because he knows that safe and knows darned well that safe and legal an open legal routes would be an open invitation more floods invitation to even more floods of dont of migrants. Yes, i dont believe more legal believe more safe and legal routes stop routes would actually stop people coming over by the channel if they dont have a genuine claim, which is the issue. May i just make it what i think is an important point on immigration . Yeah, go on. What i would support is properly targeted immigration. So that huge holes that we are told exist in our Health Care System are filled. The nhs is something that i think should be free at the point of delivery and maybe well talk about this later on, but it is something that is on its knees and its partly on its knees. You could say its partly because of the pandemic, no doubt is part of it. Doubt that is part of it. I would say its partly because underinvestment, the underinvestment, even though the tories saying the opposite. Underinvestment, even though the tori to be given good care. And you cant given good care if you cant be given good care if you dont and dont have the doctors and nurses treat them. Nurses to treat them. Is true. Well, that is true. Well, that is true. Do they need to come from abroad . Should be training takes a while to train them. We had 1 Million People arrive last year. Didnt we . Didnt we . So takes more than a year. So it takes more than a year. Emily government emily the government was sensible. They would have made sure that of those people could that some of those people could work service. But work in our Health Service. But there might take there you go. That might take a little of pre planning. Little bit of pre planning. Weve lots coming on weve got lots more coming up on todays the government is todays show. The government is turning private to todays show. The government is turrnhs private to todays show. The government is turrnhs waitinge to todays show. The government is turrnhs waiting lists. To cut nhs waiting lists. Campaigners are arguing this will limited on will have a limited impact on the backlog, but is more privatisation a good way to take pressure crumbling pressure off our crumbling Health Service . Tories Health Service . Are the tories trying the nhs trying to privatise the nhs through back door . The through the back door . By the back that and more back door . All of that and more to come. But first take to come. But first lets take a look at the weather that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors boilers, proud sponsors of weather on gb news. Good afternoon. My name is good afternoon. My name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. So today has been a much Better Weather wise for many compared to saturday. And this is because storm anthonys finally clearing away to the east. Looking out to the west, there is an area of High Pressure that might just bring something little more something a little bit more settled south on monday. Settled for the south on monday. But look through to the but as we look through to the rest of this evening, showers generally and becoming generally easing and becoming more to northern more confined and to Northern Areas, plenty of clear spells elsewhere. This combined elsewhere. And this combined with light winds, could bring the odd patch of mist and fog for southern and eastern for some southern and eastern areas. But it will also mean that temperatures will drop areas. But it will also mean that tertonight,es will drop areas. But it will also mean that tertonight, morel drop areas. But it will also mean that tertonight, more widely readily tonight, more widely than what saw on saturday than what we saw on saturday night. So areas seeing night. So rural areas seeing those temperatures into those temperatures drop into single figures. This will make for a fresh but bright start to monday with plenty of sunshine around a showers. Once again around a few showers. Once again across particularly Northern Areas , heaviest and most areas, heaviest and most frequent across northeastern parts of scotland. But after a parts of scotland. But after a bright start in the south west, things starting to cloud over as this next area of cloud and rain moves in from the west, but still feeling pleasant in that sunshine throughout monday. Now looking to tuesday , plenty of looking to tuesday, plenty of cloud and rain once again moving erratically eastwards. Quite a lot of low cloud mist and drizzle for western coasts, but dner drizzle for western coasts, but drier and brighter further north. And as we look towards midweek, it does look like things will be warming up with those temperatures getting around to the to maybe even around to the mid to maybe even high. That warm feeling high 20s. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news news welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv, online and Digital Radio. So the government is turning to private clinics to cut nhs waiting list. Thats what they hope least eight of 13 new hope at least eight of 13 new Community Diagnostic Centres will be operated by the private sector, although services will still be free patients. The still be free to patients. The plans been met with plans have been met with scepticism some experts who scepticism by some experts who say it ignores the root of say that it ignores the root of the campaigners have the problem. Campaigners have argued privatisation of the argued its privatisation of the nhs by the back door. So what is it . Joining is dr. Gavin it . Joining me now is dr. Gavin shields, gp and chair the shields, gp and chair of the coventry local medical committee. Very much committee. Thank you very much indeed , gavin, forjoining us on indeed, gavin, for joining us on the show. So what do you make of the show. So what do you make of these seems these plans . To me, it seems like pragmatism. Like pragmatism. Well, i welcome any Successful Initiative to reduce the waiting times for my patients. As gps, we know only patients. As gps, we know only too full well that that long waiting times causes a huge amount of stress, worry and anxiety and worsening of health as well. For our patients. We as well. For our patients. We know that the waiting times have been increasing. Theyre very long. Weve got over 7 million patients waiting, many of them waiting over a year. So any any successful resource that we can deploy, i would support. I would deploy, i would support. I would say, though, i think we need to remember how we have got here. First of all, weve had chronic underfunding in the nhs. Poor planning for workforce and estates. Estates. Gavin can i just interrupt you there . Just pick you up on that. You say chronic chronic underfunding. Last last time i checked, the nhs was not chronically underfunded. It may well be that underfunded. It may well be that the money isnt going to where its needed, but it has been going up in real terms. Every year since the conservatives have been in power. I mean , how have been in power. I mean, how much should we be spending on the nhs . Well, its not kept pace with the demand of our patients. Thats absolute apparent by the number of patients that weve got waiting a long time. It isnt just about the funding though, it is about the staff. I heard you mention earlier about recruiting more staff, but its about retaining staff as well, andifs about retaining staff as well, and its about having the estates investment in that. Estates and investment in that. So we have not kept pace with demand and weve ended up in a situation when far too many of our patients are waiting far too long and its having a serious impact on health. And ive impact on their health. And ive got patients having to got patients who are having to spend life savings to pay spend their life savings to pay privately they just privately because they just cant afford to wait any more in pain and distress. I would also say, though, that we cant just increase throughput in one part of the system if we just increase the diagnostics. Good increase the diagnostics. Good though, that may be we need to increase right across the system because if a patient gets a scan and a diagnosis, then we need to get them to treatment or surgery quickly. So we cant have just quickly. So we cant have just quickly. So we cant have just quick fixes as we need this to be part of a much broader, longer plan. Gavin, how does it actually work . So the government are going to be using private facility authorities. Does the government then pay the private hospitals to do those scans to make those diagnoses . How does it actually work . Practically do you know . I dont get involved in the funding side of that myself, but it is there are agreements that were put on hold to a degree dunng were put on hold to a degree during covid. But but and but there are agreements to fund the private services for doing it. I would like that to be done at the same price that nhs services are done for. And i dont want this to be a drain on the resources and the staff for the nhs. So that would be my first worry that it might cost a lot more than it would elsewhere for that would be my concern. Just very quickly, just lastly, while ive got you, how widespread view in the widespread is the view in the medical community that the conservatives are trying to privatise the nhs by the back door . Because we hear this . Is it a Conspiracy Theory . How, it a Conspiracy Theory . How, how, how, how, yeah. How widespread is the belief that thatis widespread is the belief that that is true . That is true . I, i think its quite widespread. I would have to say. I think a lot of my colleagues feel that and feel quite mistrustful. And i think i think mistrustful. And i think i think that we need really all Political Parties to absolutely show a commitment to having a Health Care Service thats free at the point of delivery and i genuinely believe that the overwhelm majority of british pubuc overwhelm majority of British Public want that. Im feel that public want that. Im feel that the changes ive seen in all the years ive been in the nhs , i years ive been in the nhs, i worry that were increasing massively, moving to a more privately based service and that concerns me greatly. Im not saying i have a problem with using capacity and resource in the private system , but i think the private system, but i think it needs to be on the background of a commitment to an nhs that is publicly funded and free at the point of access. Yeah, i think thats i think thats certainly true. People do want that. When you pull them. Dr. Gavin shields their gp and chair of the coventry local medical committee, thank you very indeed. Lets see very much indeed. So lets see what make this. What my panel make of all this. Um, were using private services. David. Should we go the whole hog and privatise the whole thing . Well, the thing is, the conservative party have opened the to this long time ago the door to this a long time ago with the Health Social care. With the health and social care. Yes, social care act yes, health and social care act 2012 and tony blair as well. Yeah. And tony blair beforehand with pfi initiative where with the pfi initiative where he got private finance to finance the construction of new hospitals and things like that, and that left the some of the buildings and some of the health care areas with terrible contracts where they have to pay through the nose to change a light bulb. You have to pay like £100 to change a light bulb or something. You know, which actually is a drain on nhs is isnt best at negotiating isnt the best at negotiating contracts. Exactly. So, so contracts. No, exactly. So, so this has been going on for a long time under labour and then under the conservatives, you have Companies Like virgin care, for example , taking over certain for example, taking over certain bits of childrens care and Health Services and yeah , they Health Services and yeah, they were good. They do a good job, but the nhs has to pay for them. The question is, are they Getting Better service for less pay Getting Better service for less , pay for a better price . Yes. , pay for a better price . Yes. I dont think they are going to get a lower price if they go private and bring privatisation into the nhs. The thing is now into the nhs. The thing is now youve got 7. 4 million in a backlog. What we need to do is just clear that backlog. Just clear that backlog. However its done, clear it, just clear it, clear it like that. But yes, using private resources may well be the right way to when it comes to this. Way to go when it comes to this. Matthew people watching at matthew more people watching at home and listening to this show arent buying the idea that the nhs is chronically underfunded and they just dont buy it anymore. Weve been told so many years that if only we put a bit more money into the nhs, it will suddenly have fantastic outcomes and all will be well. I think more and more people are clocking on to the idea that maybe the nhs needs a little bit more than that. More than that. Do people, do people at home really think that there are 7. 5 Million People, some of whom will be watching this show languishing on waiting lists with their wider health deteriorate in some cases as a consequence, because because somehow doctors and nurses are idle, that theyre sitting on their bums. No one thinks theyre either the or the managers are so useless. Im not someone who some people do my question, my people do ask my question, my opinion, my view is that the opinion, my view is, is that the nhs shouldnt be treated as a holy cow in the sense that its not sacred where we think that standards are poor, that should be brought to wider attention. Be brought to wider attention. Ive had lots of experience recently of the nhs. Some of it has been good, some of it has been bad. Let like i think a majority of the viewers, but im not assuming what they believe. Not assuming what they believe. I it should be free i do believe it should be free at the point of delivery. I am not an ideologue, dr. Not an ideologue, just as dr. Shields when it comes to shields wasnt when it comes to using private resources in terms of providing enough space so that we can actually treat people right, that seems to me okay. What i think is surprising is that the conservative lives have actually lagged behind on that. While these waiting lists have growing. Whereas that. While these waiting lists have shadow1g. Whereas that. While these waiting lists have shadow healthereas Labours Shadow Health secretary, wes streeting, hes been quite clear, i think, for some time that you can use private resources choices to make sure that we drive these waiting lists down. He has he has actually sounded reasonably sensible, but a lot of people have been writing in just saying, we always blame saying, why do we always blame the government . Is true. We because this is true. We always seem to blame the government when the nhs isnt working and of working the backlog. And of course do contribute to course they do contribute to decisions made. But decisions that are made. But but for has written for example, john has written in, the nhs has senior in, he says the nhs has senior management. So what they do . In, he says the nhs has senior man. Do ment. So what they do . In, he says the nhs has senior man. Do we 1t. So what they do . In, he says the nhs has senior man. Do we notso what they do . In, he says the nhs has senior man. Do we not hear1at they do . In, he says the nhs has senior man. Do we not hear about they do . In, he says the nhs has senior man. Do we not hear about what do . Why do we not hear about what their plans are . Why is it the government being blamed . Government always being blamed . They on a daily they dont run it on a daily bafis they dont run it on a daily basis and i think theres quite a lot of truth to that. Secretary state Health Secretary of state for health cannot from cannot micromanage the nhs from the top down. It is up to management to work out how things should we had things should be. We had a workforce that years workforce plan that was years and late. So who do and years too late. So who do you for the state of the you blame for the state of the nhs . Know. Youre nhs . Let me know. Youre watching listening news watching or listening to gb news sunday emily carver. Sunday with me. Emily carver. Weve got lots more coming up. Greenpeace scaling the greenpeace say that scaling the Prime Ministers was Prime Ministers house was a proportionate response to a disastrous ill be disastrous decision. Ill be asking tactics have asking if activist tactics have gone whether its gone too far and whether its fair them eco terrorists fair to call them eco terrorists even. First, lets get the even. But first, lets get the news with rory. Thorne news with rory. Thorne thank you very much, emily. Those who have been wrongfully convicted of crimes will no longer have their living costs docked from their compensation payments. New guidance issued by justice secretary alex chow comes into effect immediately from today. It follows the controversy sparked by the jailing of Andrew Malkinson, who spent 17 years behind bars for a crime he did not commit. He voiced his concerns that expensive may be deducted from his compensation , prompting his compensation, prompting downing street to make urgent amendments. The National Crime amendments. The National Crime agency is teaming up with social media firms to crack down on posts by people smugglers who are encouraged wing Asylum Seekers to cross the Channel Group discounts free spaces for children and offers a false documents. Case are amongst the documents. Case are amongst the posts the Prime Minister wants removed to help achieve his promise to stop the boats. Promise to stop the boats. Minister for immigration Robert Jenrick told us erg gb news that migrants come to the uk because of a so called soft touch approach to immigration. Approach to immigration. Ukraines president Vladimir Zelenskyy is accusing russia of bombing a Blood Transfusion Centre in the northwest of the country. Mr zelenskyy claims a number of people are dead and others are injured. But the president did not disclose how many fatalities there are. He described the strike in the eastern Kharkiv Region as a war crime. There so far been no comment from russia store storm anthony saw 78 mile per hour winds hit some parts of the uk yesterday, blocking 100 miles of railway between exeter and penzance. About half a months worth of rain fell in some areas , with a number of people evacuated from their homes in nonh evacuated from their homes in North Yorkshire due to flooding wind gusts of 78 miles an hour were measured at berry head in devon, while 43mm of rain fell in scarborough in North Yorkshire, almost half of augusts average rainfall fall. Thats the up to date. But you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website thatis stories by visiting our website that is gbnews. Com. Welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv online and radio. So a lot of you have been getting in touch about the using private facilities the government is planning to do to try and cut down those backlogs , which i down on those backlogs, which i think 7. 4 million now, which think are 7. 4 million now, which is quite incredible. 1 in 8 people in the country are on a waiting list, which is staggering. King john says the staggering. King john says the nhs has run poorly by design. Nhs has run poorly by design. The more money given, the more syphoned off. Simple make people more accountable. Problem more accountable. Problem solved. Says. People go on solved. Gary says. People go on about the tories privatisation , about the tories privatisation, but was under the tony blair but it was under the tony blair Labour Government blair Labour Government when blair gave go ahead gave andy burnham the go ahead to out the first privatised to give out the first privatised contracts we go. But contracts. So there we go. But ray says the nhs is chronically overstaffed, not chronically underfunded. Interesting. Underfunded. Interesting. Perhaps youre talking about management. There are several management. There are several layers management than layers of management rather than the nurses doctors which we the nurses and doctors which we dont seem to have enough of. I think thats fair to say. At least there seem to be massive staffing gaps. But lets move on. Keep, keep your thoughts coming nhs. I think coming in on the nhs. I think its of those issues that its one of those issues that everyone to have have an everyone seems to have have an answer seem have answer about. They seem to have answer about. They seem to have a you know, an idea on how it could be fixed and transformed into something because into something better, because it doing it certainly isnt isnt doing a brilliant job at the moment. But anyway, it seems to all it seems to all be coming home to roost for greenpeace actually, after their at prime their stunt at the Prime Ministers yorkshire yes, ministers yorkshire home. Yes, after staging a mass stunt draping banners, banners draping banners, black banners over sunaks many over rishi sunaks home, many are calling greenpeace to be calling for greenpeace to be blacklisted altogether, including the environment secretary, coffey. Its secretary, therese coffey. Its the in a sequence of the latest in a sequence of climate protest actions in recent extreme recent months, with extreme measures now being considered, so should climate groups be designated as eco terrorist . Designated as eco terrorist . Thats right. Joining me now is donna mccarthy, director of the Climate Media Coalition. I Climate Media Coalition. I wonder what youre going to say about seem to about this. They do seem to fulfil some of the definition of what means to behave like what it means to behave like a terrorist, unlawful use of violence and intimidation , violence and intimidation, especially against civilians in the pursuit of political aims. That sometimes doesnt that sometimes happens, doesnt it . It . I think thats an extraordinary, outrageous accusation for Peaceful Protesters who are trying to protect our climate. Its quite protect our climate. Its quite clear the United Nations general secretary said its people like sunak who are actually advocating more fossil fuels, who are the real eco terrorists here. The response around his response to the extraordinary impacts are coming through across the planet with record temperatures on land. Weve had record temperatures on the ocean, record wildfires and the response from rishi sunak has been to drive more , drill more been to drive more, drill more and fly more. Its actually extra ordinary thing what his proposal that we should max out fossil fuels one which is against the advice of the un, the United Nations, the International Panel on Climate Change and the who. Is that actually hes actually telling every country in the to world max out their fossil fuels, which is that disaster for britain. Do you think we have that much influence on what china, middle east do china, india, middle east do when oil and gas , when it comes to oil and gas, when it comes to oil and gas, when were one of the richest countries in the world and were saying despite being one of the richest the world, richest countries in the world, were to demise, were going to max demise, exploitation fuels, exploitation of fossil fuels, rather investing in rather than investing in cheapen cheaper, greener british renewable is what were telling every other poorer country in the world is to actually do the same. Regards our same. And as regards our position in the world, as regards china, britain is centre of worlds one of the major of the worlds one of the major centres of the worlds fossil fuel funding centres , is 15 of fuel funding centres, is 15 of Global Investments in fossil fuels come from the city of london 50 of insurance for the fossil fuel industry comes from london and a significant amount of the period. We are a huge centre for the oil industry and we need to act and provide leadership to save britain. One of things, emily, dont of the things, emily, i dont know if youve ever read Margaret Thatcher is speech to the United Nations in its the United Nations in 89. Its an amazing speech. And actually its something we really should look at in the light of what rishi sunak is doing. She warned in 1989 that if we didnt act on climate, we would face temperatures that breached 100,000 that were hotter than 100,000 that were hotter than 100,000 years ago. That has now happened. Weve passed 125,000 year mark. As thatcher warned. I year mark. As thatcher warned. I think shed be horrified. Donica i do. I do. Donica i do. I do. Thats a thats a very clever tactic, bringing in Margaret Thatcher, because im im sure that assume that im a a big that you assume that im a a big fan of the iron lady. Quite a good, good tactic there. But donica do you think that sometimes these stunts and i do think theyre intimidating and can actually put people off. Weve talked about this before , weve talked about this before, but i do genuinely think that people are more likely to support more oil and Gas Exploration in the north sea when they see things like this, because does appear like because it does appear like these greenpeace protesters are totally out of touch. This is an totally out of touch. This is an industry that employs thousands of people. Were importing oil of people. Were importing oil and gas from abroad anyway , and gas from abroad anyway, these oil and gas companies, if they stop drilling in the north sea, arent going to stop. Theyll move elsewhere. Theyll move to indonesia, theyll move to areas of the middle east, theyll to other countries theyll move to other countries around the world where theyre allowed drilling. So allowed to keep drilling. So even stopped oil and gas even if we stopped oil and Gas Exploration tomorrow, it wouldnt any impact on wouldnt have any impact on Climate Change, would it . Climate change, would it . Of course it would. What were actually facing were what actually were facing is the International Financial industry is pouring between 5 and 6 trillion in new fossil fuels. When we cant afford to burn half of what weve got already, according to the International Energy agency, if that 6 trillion was invested instead in saving the planet in renewables , in storage, in renewables, in storage, in Energy Efficiency , britain would Energy Efficiency, britain would have cheaper bills , a greener, have cheaper bills, a greener, a green, greener electricity supply, and we would have a future for our kids. It is insanity to be actually drilling for new oil and gas well. Donica. I wish the government had invested more in Nuclear Energy because that could have sustained our lifestyles. I do worry that renewables alone wont to. Thats the wont be able to. Thats the wind. The solar. Cetera. Et wind. The solar. Et cetera. Et cetera. But thank you much cetera. But thank you very much indeed. Well indeed. Donica. Well speak again. Mccarthy again. Im sure. Donica mccarthy there. Director of climate there. Director of the Climate Media Coalition and a friend of the show, it seems. Thank you very much for your time. So lets see what my panel think about this. You know, dont about this. You know, i dont think much of a think its that much of a stretch, matthew, that stretch, matthew, to say that actually groups actually these groups are behaving terrorists. Behaving a bit like terrorists. I trying to i mean, theyre trying to intimidate in order to intimidate people in order to pursue their political objectives are objectives lives. They are certainly rishi sunak i i i mean, lets be completely straightforward about this. And you use that Old Fashioned expression, common sense is so often bandied around on gb news. These guys are not trying to be violent. Theyre not violent. Theyre the opposite of violent. However there although i dont think branded think they should be branded terrorists, thought was terrorists, i thought it was a disgraceful do. Rishi disgraceful thing to do. Rishi sunak une disgraceful thing to do. Rishi sunak line for you, sunak that was a line for you, was it . Well, there plenty was it . Well, there are plenty of lines. Its not their first line. I didnt think that that person who orange confetti person who threw orange confetti on osborne his wedding on George Osborne at his wedding and fan of george and im not a fan of George Osborne or his or his policies. To make they they managed to make they managed make people feel managed to make people feel sorry osborne, which sorry for George Osborne, which is think you is quite i dont think you should throwing should be throwing orange confetti, its sort confetti, even though its sort of harmless. I think you should be throwing that anyone. Look throwing that on anyone. Look the rishi sunak is the point about rishi sunak is hes and i hes got two daughters, and i dont you should be dont think you should be targeting his house, even if he didnt daughters. Didnt have two daughters. But also about rishi sunak didnt have two daughters. But also his about rishi sunak didnt have two daughters. But also his daughters ut rishi sunak didnt have two daughters. But also his daughters is rishi sunak didnt have two daughters. But also his daughters is youllsunak didnt have two daughters. But also his daughters is youll have and his daughters is youll have seen the footage this week that was again of him trying was played again of him trying to leader in the first to become leader in the first place, i think against liz truss last what was rishi last summer. And what was rishi sunak hes saying sunak saying . Hes saying ive got daughters, young got daughters, ive got young daughters. Leave the daughters. I want to leave the world greener for them. World a greener place for them. He a Sustainable Future he wanted a Sustainable Future for family. Do think for his family. So do i think that sunak, as monica that rishi sunak, as monica said, eco terrorist . I dont. Not rishi sunak oh, no, he did say that. Yes, yes, yes. Do i think do i agree with him on that . No, i dont do i think rishi sunak is being incredibly irresponsible for narrow, party narrow, personal and Party Political or perceived political gain or perceived Party Political yes, i do Party Political gain . Yes, i do , david. These groups bordering on all these groups bordering on eco terrorism , should they be eco terrorism, should they be proscribed or would that be completely ridiculous over the top . Theyre annoying and theyre disruptive. And i think what theyve going to theyve done here, going to someones crosses line. Someones house crosses a line. They that. Is they shouldnt do that. This is someones private like someones private property, like you have. He has you said they have. He has a family, they should family, so they should absolutely be doing this. I absolutely not be doing this. I mean, another thing with the confetti wedding , you confetti at the wedding, you dont disturb peoples weddings and disturb peoples and you dont disturb peoples funerals. I think thats absolutely despicable. But i think in terms of what theyve been doing, of the groups been doing, some of the groups like this in their more public actions has been more actions has been even more disruptive. When they get the disruptive. When they get on the roads they ambulances roads and they stop ambulances from through, they stop from getting through, they stop fire going through. Fire engines from going through. They people cars. Yeah. They stop people in cars. Yeah. So prevented from so people are prevented from going to business meetings , going to business meetings, going to business meetings, going on holidays, getting to hospital appointments and all these kind of things, which has massively disruptive to everybody. And that is absolutely deplorable as well. Absolutely deplorable as well. Can just say on that point . Can i just say on that point . Yeah would not yeah i personally would not choose to go on slow marches on on roads, partly because i dont think its for me to decide. I know what is best. Im happy to come on a show like this and tell you what i think, but i dont think i should enforce that. On other people. Also, i would not be want to be responsible for someone not to be able to get to hospital or someone to be able to get to someone not to be able to get to their funeral. So thats their parents funeral. So thats why do it. However why i wouldnt do it. However and i think should all and i think we should all acknowledge is what they acknowledge this is what they are is giving far are doing is giving far, far more coverage to the environment than werent doing than if they werent doing it. We guarantee you, not we would, i guarantee you, not be about this now, be talking about this now, not be talking about this now, not be talking about this now, not be talking the environment be talking about the environment if what if they werent doing what theyre support theyre doing, support for oil and exploration has actually and Gas Exploration has actually risen weeks, risen in the last few weeks, according polling up. According to polling up. Dont have the numbers to i dont have the numbers to hand, but ill dig them out later because its quite interesting its interesting because its actually attention interesting because its actu big attention interesting because its actu big an attention interesting because its actu big an industryention interesting because its actu big an industry ittion interesting because its actu big an industry ittio and how big an industry it is and how, you know, people worry about security. You about energy security. So, you know, works, know, i dont think it works, but nice to hear that you but its nice to hear that you dont want to oppose. Nice to hear that you its nice to hear that you can your i know i can bring your polls. I know i should have had my with should have had my polls with me, but it is nice to hear that you dont to impose your you dont wish to impose your views on anyone. We all believe in democracy. So there but anyway, so there you go. But anyway, lets finish off the show with some royal some royal some royal gossip, some royal news. Have been news. The sussexes have been getting a lot of bad getting rather a lot of bad press recently. They were reportedly snubbed by king charles as they didnt receive an invite to balmoral this september, anniversary of an invite to balmoral this septenelizabeths anniversary of an invite to balmoral this septenelizabeths passing. ;ary of an invite to balmoral this septenelizabeths passing. So of Queen Elizabeths passing. So even though Prince Andrew is expected attendance, no expected to be in attendance, no invite harry invite was extended to harry and meghan. Theyre hot meghan. Theyre also in hot water after feuding with posh and. Thats about leaking and becks. Thats about leaking royal stories. I and becks. Thats about leaking royal stories. I think and becks. Thats about leaking royal stories. I think thats royal stories. I think thats the accusation. Anyway, there is a good news for the a sliver of good news for the couple actually joining me now is charles rea, former royal correspondent for the thank correspondent for the sun. Thank you very much indeed, charles. Now, your former paper , the sun now, your former paper, the sun here, is splashing. Where is it . Here, is splashing. Where is it . Ive lost the page. Is splashing on how the couple, harry and meghan , have secured a £3 meghan, have secured a £3 million deal with netflix. Um, million deal with netflix. Um, this book, theyre going to be producing a tv version of book . Yes. Well, it looks like theyve splashed out this £3 million, as you say, to a lady called the aptly named carly fortune , whos now clearly in fortune, whos now clearly in the money. She has written a book, former journalist and the money. She has written a book, formerjournalist and now book, former journalist and now turned author to meet me at the lake and theyre going to produce this this book into a film. Um well they hope thats film. Um well they hope thats going to happen. But remarked it has an awful lot of parallels with the actual royal couple themselves themes present in this book include secrets and lies, love and sacrifice , lies, love and sacrifice, working life balance, mental health, drugs, alcohol, working life balance, mental health, drugs, alcohol , the health, drugs, alcohol, the death of a parent, the abandonment, depression , sick abandonment, depression, sick child and absentee parents. Youd think at one stage. Oh, and also part of it is sent in, is set in toronto, as we know. Meghan lived in toronto as well. So so youd think that carly and im sure she didnt actually used harry and meghan as a model for her book, which has sold, i have to say, sold a remarkable amount of copies , 37,000 in the amount of copies, 37,000 in the first week it was released in may, but theres an awful lot of top notch hollywood producers questioning whether her publishers should have gone for harry and meghan, who are in effect, novice producers and never produced anything. And never produced anything. And theyve been in front of the camera. Um, but this is their camera. Um, but this is their first, you know, delve into fiction, although some people say that theyve already delved into fiction with their Netflix Series on smashing the royal family um, so its interesting that we have to wait and see. And of course theyve bought this book. Emily when all of hollywood is at a standstill, you know, the writers are on strike. Nothings going to happen. Theyre already talking about this is going to go on until christmas. So god knows when. Whats going to start on this. And also, theyve received criticism. Dont forget , from criticism. Dont forget, from the of spotify and spotify the head of spotify and spotify dumped them. The head of spotify dumped them. The head of spotify called them a pair of grifters, which the american version of which is the american version of comparisons. Which is the american version of comparisons. And we also have comparisons. And we also have Jeffrey Zimmer , who said that Jeffrey Zimmer, who said that there was no she wasnt a great audio talent. There was no she wasnt a great audio talent. This is speaking audio talent. This is speaking about meghan. I mean , sorry, about meghan. I mean, sorry, charles, sorry to interrupt you i i i cant believe that meghan doesnt want to be in front of the camera on this one because im not sure exactly what producing Something Like this means. Apparently its also a steamy romantic novel, so thats interesting. So it might be quite a lot of well , steaminess quite a lot of well, steaminess in there a little bit raunchy. Who knows . I havent read the book, but what does that actually mean . So theyll be behind the scenes. Will be behind the scenes. Harry will be coming with the best angles, coming up with the best angles, or coming up with or hell just be coming up with the actors and actresses as the best actors and actresses as they are going to be the producers. So they are going to be the money people. They are going to be putting the money into the production. Already production. Theyve already secured rights. Its secured the rights. If its correct going cost correct that its going to cost £3 million. Experts say this £3 million. And experts say this is this sort of book would is what this sort of book would go they will be go for. So they will be responding ansible raising responding ansible for raising the money so that the film can be made. Other people will be involved in actually , you know, involved in actually, you know, choosing the actors well. So harry and meghan will also be involved in that part of it, but someone else will be actually involved in that part of it, but somecthe else will be actually involved in that part of it, but somecthe film,vill be actually involved in that part of it, but somecthe film, filming, tually involved in that part of it, but somecthe film, filming, you ly doing the film, filming, you know been front of know, theyve been in front of the camera. Its not been a the camera. Its not been a success. Lets not forget that they didnt do terribly well, according the rest of the according to the rest of the world, on the Oprah Winfrey show. Uh, although they are harry and Netflix Series, you and meghan Netflix Series, you know , was watched by everybody. Know, was watched by everybody. It has been largely slated. It has been largely slated. Charles, thank you very much indeed for bringing us up to date on the latest ongoings with the harry and meghan seems theyre turning their hand at production which might be interesting. Im not sure well well see if it actually happens. You never know with these kind of stories, but thats it from me today. But stay because today. But stay tuned because nana and shes nana is up next and shes appeared in the studio with me on sofa. What have you on the sofa. Nana. What have you got up . God. Got coming up . Oh, god. Well, to going be a very well, its to going be a very exciting show. Well, its to going be a very exc and show. Well, its to going be a very exc and ihow. Well, its to going be a very exc and i agree with every word and i agree with every word that charles rea just uttered there, the way. There, by the way. Were going to talk about but were going to talk about those Companies Making all those big Companies Making all that all that money when were all impoverished getting impoverished and getting hungry and starving. Why are these people much money . People making so much money . Well at foreign aid well also look at foreign aid because, of were giving because, of course, were giving 0. 5. Should 0. 5. Theyre saying we should give countries arent give 0. 7. Other countries arent even their share and we even giving their share and we ought to discuss the morality of whether actually whether we should actually be getting kind of quite lot. Isnt it nought point five, nought, 0. 7. It is. And some of its going to like china. Yeah. To countries like china. Yeah. And india with and of course india people with space and then well Space Programs and then well have discussion with, have that big discussion with, with regard everything with regard to Everything Else that youve been discussing as well. To join in well. So were going to join in and about youve been and talk about what youve been talking about. And talk about what youve been talioh, about. And talk about what youve been talioh, aboyou a little bit of oh, are you a little bit of a legal migration . Suella braverman man . Braverman mouthing off, man . Shes of course, because shes right. Obviously shes right. And potentially to and is it enough . Potentially to save if they save the tory party if they carry on this . Carry on like this . Well, exactly. Well, stay tuned at for home nana akua show. Be show. Its going to be fantastic. Thank you very much for wonderful panel. David for my wonderful panel. David kirton stadlen, kirton and Matthew Stadlen, who have fantastic. Sure have been fantastic. Im sure you listening you agree. Youve been listening to sunday with me, emily to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. Very much carver. Thank you very much indeed for joining carver. Thank you very much indeed forjoining me. Stay tuned for nana. Indeed forjoining me. Stay tun the r nana. Indeed forjoining me. Stay tun the temperatures rising the temperatures rising boxt solar proud sponsors weather solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Good afternoon. My name is good afternoon. My name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. So today has been a much Better Weather wise for many compared to saturday. And this is because storm antonys finally clearing away to the east. Looking out to the west, there is an area of High Pressure that might just bring something a little bit more settled south monday. Settled for the south on monday. 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