Rail. And speaking of gender, you can be offensive as you like, as long as you say the right offensive thing. It seems graham lynam has his edinburgh comedy fringe appearance cancelled. Havent we got past cancelled. Havent we got past this by now . Comedys comedy. Surely if you dont like it, dont watch it, but dont cancel it. Im debating this and so much more with my panel. And much more with my panel. And thats all coming up after the latest News Headlines with tatiana sanchez. Tatiana sanchez. Dawn, thank you very much and good evening. This is the latest from the newsroom for the nurse. Lucy letby has been found guilty of the murder of seven babies. She was also convicted of the attempted murder of six others between june 2015 and june 2016. At the countess of Chester HospitalsNeonatal Ward b 33 year old will be sentenced on monday. The government has ordered an independent inquiry into the case. Crown prosecutor pascal jones described letby attacks as a complete betrayal of the trust placed in her. It ordered those working alongside her know that there was a murderer in their midst. She did her utmost to conceal her crimes by varying the ways in which she repeatedly harmed babies in her care. She sought babies in her care. She sought to deceive her colleagues and pass off the harm she caused as nothing more than a worsening of each babys existing vulnerability. Vulnerability. Police investigating the murder of a ten year old in woking say theyre looking for her father, sara sharifs body was found at her home last thursday after Police Received a call from her dad. Just before 3 am. Detectives say she suffered a. M. Detectives say she suffered extensive injuries over a sustained period of time. Sustained period of time. Theyre now seeking irfan sharif , along with the childs stepmother and her uncle. Its believed they travelled to pakistan the day before her death was discovered. Police death was discovered. Police have revealed theyre investigating the loss of an officers laptop and notebook which fell from a moving vehicle yesterday. Meanwhile, the psni yesterday. Meanwhile, the psni have arrested a man in connection with last weeks data breach in which the details of 10,000 Police Officers and staff were published online by mistake. A 50 year old man has been detained under the terrorism act and is being questioned. Another man was arrested yesterday on suspicion of collecting information likely to be useful to terrorists. Gb news can to terrorists. Gb news can reveal more than 25,000 migrants have crossed the English Channel since rishi sunak became Prime Minister the figure was reached just after midday today after the Border Force Vessel ranger arrived at dover harbour with 57 people on board and despite poor weather conditions in the channel today, a second migrant boat made it to uk waters. It means more than 110 migrants have arrived in kent today. To have arrived in kent today. To train. Drivers will strike on the 1st of september and overtime will be banned the day after in a long running dispute over pay. The strike will force train across england Train Companies across england to Cancel Services , while to cancel all services, while the ban on overtime will seriously disrupt the network. It will be the 12th one day strike by aslef members since the dispute started a year ago. The dispute started a year ago. This is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on Digital Radio tv in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by simply saying play. News now dawn it is back to you. Dawn it is back to you. Thank you. Tatiana good evening. Im dawn neesom and you are watching and listening to gb news coming up shortly , ill be news coming up shortly, ill be debating a trans players in chess. If comedy should be cancelled and if the president of the fia should be actually watching our fearless lionesses bnng watching our fearless lionesses bring us home. Fingers crossed. The world cup. So tonight i am asking you with growing hype for the game on sunday. Are you as excited for the womens football as the mens are in football in general . But in sport, i mean, doesit general . But in sport, i mean, does it mean as much to you as if it was the men playing very cunous if it was the men playing very curious to what you think on this one. Had this debate with the husband at home, didnt go well, but get in touch. Vaiews gbnews. Com. Now probably vaiews gbnews. Com. Now probably one of the horrible stories weve had for a while. Neonatal nurse has been found guilty of murdering seven babies and attempting to kill six more, making her the worst child serial killer in modern history. Now, obviously , we are talking now, obviously, we are talking about the horrible case of lucy letby. Joining me now to discuss the sort of psychological mentality im interested in what drives a woman to do this. You have to harm those in your care. Is psychologist honey lancaster james. Hi, honey. Thank you so much for joining james. Hi, honey. Thank you so much forjoining us this evening much for joining us this evening on a friday night. I really appreciate your time to discuss what is a dreadfully upsetting story. Now, i know, honey, we story. Now, i know, honey, we have discussed it. You cant talk about this case in particular, so i just want to talk in general about what drives this sort of behaviour , drives this sort of behaviour, particularly in women and why are we more shocked when it is a woman . Woman . Well, i think theres two questions there. I mean , first questions there. I mean, first of all, this is obviously a dreadful, dreadful story and its going to be so distressing for so many people to hear about this. There for so many people to hear about this. There are some for so many people to hear about this. There are some reports for so many people to hear about this. There are some reports on this. There are some reports on this story that the person in question was suffering from a condition called munch and by proxy. Proxy. Now, i dont know the facts of the case havent examined in this case, but i can educate a little bit on what that is when youre hearing about that. Its a psychological disorder that leads individuals to harm those who are in their care. Now , sometimes this is now, sometimes this is associated with mothers and always mothers, but often mothers hurting children in their care. And they do so usually out of a motivation to get attention, to get contact with medical professionals. Now, i dont know whether that was the case in this case, but i have read reports that thatis but i have read reports that that is being discussed as a possible factor here. One of the things i should say is this. This is an extremely rare disorder. Its not something that we should all be panicking about, particularly in our Health Care Professionals, because although it can affect a Health Care Profession , it is extremely rare profession, it is extremely rare. And there are lots of processes in place, you know, among Health Care Teams to watch out for these things. Of course , in this case, something very, very tragic and untoward has happened. Very tragic and untoward has happened. And we dont know happened. And we dont know quite how that has come to pass that so many children have been have been harmed and have been killed and my heart just goes out to all of the families affected. Of course. Affected. Of course. Yeah. No, absolutely. With yeah. No, absolutely. With the kind of psychological disorders that we are talking about that drives killers , about that drives killers, serial killers, because thats what were talking about in this case. I what were talking about in this case. I mean, weve mentioned munchausen as well, there munchausen as well, and there were other people mentioning today like the hero today think like the hero complex. I mean, what could you explain us a bit more about what thatis . Well, thats quite a colloquial sort term. Thats colloquial sort of term. Thats something you know, is not something that, you know, is not a recognised psychological disorder like munchausen by proxy. I think what people proxy. But i think what people are talking about is where sometimes somebody can appear to be very caring, can appear to be in a caring role , can actually in a caring role, can actually can be quite deceptive about what their true motivations are involved in their activities and actually they might be motivated by self gain or some sort of self gratification. And of course, in very extreme cases , course, in very extreme cases, as in this case, it seems that its contributed to obviously the harm of others. I think in terms of sort of what to watch out for and why we perhaps dont see this coming. I think if you think about our society, we very much have this strong message that women are the nurturing caregivers among us in society, and therefore , we often think and therefore, we often think dont expect women to kill. We dont expect women to kill. We dont expect women to kill. We dont expect them to harm others because its so much the antithesis of what our concept of womanhood entails. I think there are a number of problems with that. One is that obviously as a society we need to make room for the full breadth of experience of all genders because we can all display all sorts of behaviour, but i think the other side of that is that we need to have appropriate checks and balances and ways of recognising when something might not be what it seems. And i not be what it seems. And i always think, you know, im always think, you know, im always happy to do these kinds of interviews to explain things because i think it raises awareness and the reality is there will be people out there in society suffering from these kind of psychological disorders or perhaps worried about other people in their own families or their own health care provisions. And i would always encourage people , particularly in the people, particularly in the Health Care Professions , to come Health Care Professions, to come forward and report any colleagues that they are concerned about , to speak to concerned about, to speak to someone that they trust and to keep speaking. If those concerns are not readily responded to. And of course, if anybody out there is worried about any children or Vulnerable People in someone elses care, but has an uneasy feeling about whether they are actually being cared for, whether they are being looked after , and then do speak looked after, and then do speak to someone about that, that you can trust or speak to, or even if you go to your gp and raise it, raise it with a Health Care Professional who be professional who might be able to and advise you and look to help and advise you and look and out for things that and look out for things that might be concern. Might be a concern. Very good advice. Annie, just one final question. One final quick question. The judge case described the judge in this case described the actions monstrous , which actions as monstrous, which obviously they are. These were incredibly newborn incredibly vulnerable newborn babies. If incredibly vulnerable newborn babies. If the killer incredibly vulnerable newborn babies. If the killer doesnt babies. If the killer doesnt have any of the conditions , have any of the conditions, youre so eloquently explained to us, is there such a thing as just pure evil . Just pure evil . You know , this is a debate you know, this is a debate and as a psychology and under trained psychotherapist, i have to say that in in my experience , the vast majority of offences take place. I think when people have various different disorders , Mental Health conditions that doesnt thats not me saying that everyone should be excused. Of course they shouldnt. Of course, people need to be held accountable. Of course, as a society we need to be on that and we need to incarcerate those who are a menace or a risk to society. But personally and professionally, my opinion is that if we like normal, healthy, individual cells dont go around hurting other human beings. Individual cells dont go around hurting other human beings. And hurting other human beings. And i think whats really important is i think we should also say actually whats really important is that if theres anyone ever watching or listening to these kinds of interviews and thinking, actually, im doing something, or maybe ive done something, or maybe ive done something or i have urges to do something, please get help. Something, please get help. Please go and speak to a qualified professional because it doesnt have to end up that way. It doesnt have to work out that way. And i think one of the things we have in society is a problem sometimes where we brand things as being just pure evil, just, you know, and of course, the acts are evil. And what has the acts are evil. And what has happenedis the acts are evil. And what has happened is undoubtedly deadly, horrendous and tragic. But i think what we need to do is also for state within our society a way for people to come forward. If they are at risk of harming other people, if they have thoughts of harming other people or infants, if they have thoughts of doing anything criminal. I thoughts of doing anything criminal. I would like those people to go forward and get help from professional and help from a professional and speak someone in confidence speak to someone in confidence if theyre worried about it because lets face it, thats the way reduce this kind of the way to reduce this kind of thing happening society and thing happening in society and that reporting our concerns that and reporting our concerns when we have them of course, thatis when we have them of course, that is a great, very, very good advice. Thank you so much for talking to us, sir. Honey lancaster, james ira, psychologist, thank you much forjoining us on you so much forjoining us on a friday night. Now, obviously, its incredibly distressing its an incredibly distressing case. Youve just heard case. And as youve just heard from honey, if you do have any issues, please do get in touch with your mental Health Care Professionals. And if you need to someone, any one to speak to someone, any one 24 hours a samaritans are hours a day, samaritans are there 24 over seven on 1161, two, three. Now im dawn neesom are you are watching and listening to gb news. Still to come. Never send a man to do a womans job. The temperatures rising. Boxt the temperatures rising. Boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Hello again. Its aidan hello again. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast overnight storm betty will bring lashings of wind and rain to the uk. In some places, gales as uk. In some places, gales as well as in other places. Thunder storms. Betty was named by met eireann the Irish Met Service because of the strongest winds will be affecting southern ireland overnight, but also western parts of england. South western parts of england. South west scotland, Northern Ireland and wales will see gales and in some places 60 or even 70 mile per hour wind gusts. The worse the winds move through overnight. But theres also the risk of thunderstorms developing. But theres also the risk of thu|easttorms developing. But theres also the risk of thu|east of ms developing. But theres also the risk of thu|east of england. Oping. But theres also the risk of thu|east of england and g the east of england and persistent rain for scotland and Northern Ireland. So all in all, a lively night of weather and a warm night as well, staying fairly muggy. We start off saturday with the wet and windy weather irish sea weather moving through irish sea coasts, Northern Ireland as well as scotland. The most persistent rain arrives into the north of scotland , but well continue to scotland, but well continue to see further spells of wet weather for rest of weather for the rest of scotland, Northern Ireland and northwest england the northwest england across the rest england and wales rest of england and wales brightens up. Therell be some showers but also decent showers but also some decent sunshine the southeast, sunshine and in the southeast, 26 its going to stay 26 celsius, its going to stay relatively humid. Sunday all in all, is a brighter day, particularly for northern areas. Again, a mix of sunny spells and showers, still a brisk breeze from the southwest, but thats going to be bringing once more some higher temperatures at times. So mid some higher temperatures at times. So mid 20s possible in the southeast , turning even the southeast, turning even warmer in the south through next week, changeable in the north. The temperatures rising , boxt the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Radio. Hello, happy friday evening. Im dawn neesom here on news 11 am. This sunday. A small football match taking place. Will you be watching the lionesses kick off against spain at 11 00 on sunday morning . So at 11 00 on sunday morning . So what does it mean to us all . The Prime Minister has urged pubs to open early and councils to relax licencing laws to allow more people to come together and celebrate the win. Please joining me now is sue white, former england Womens International footballer, to discuss the outcome ending performance by our lionesses. There you are, sue, thank you so much for joining there you are, sue, thank you so much forjoining me this much for joining me this evening. Pleasure to talk to you. Thank evening. Pleasure to talk to you. Thank you so much for coming on. This is actually incredible for football , for womens for football, for womens football. I mean , are you football. I mean, are you excited . I mean , come on. Talk excited . I mean, come on. Talk to me about how youre feeling right now. Right now. Im already feeling sick and nervous. I usually watch the matches from behind the city peeping out or even run into the garden if it looks like a penalty or anything like that. I get so nervous and i paced the room constantly. Im kicking every ball, heading every ball. Im ball, heading every ball. Im trying to save every ball. So yeah , and i know all my 72 yeah, and i know all my 72 team mates they all they feel pretty much the same because were meeting up tomorrow to get ready to watch the match together on sunday. So which will be wonderful. Oh, brilliant. So you were , you were so you were, you were a goalkeeper. I mean , you the goalkeeper. I mean, you the First International match back in 1972 when you were just 17 years old, you must have witnessed so many changes to womens footballer over that penod womens footballer over that period of time. I mean , how do period of time. I mean, how do you think the game is being treated now by by mostly men , treated now by by mostly men, but the population in general . But the population in general . Ive had so many people say to me that those girls have made them enjoy a game that they never thought they would. People say, ive never been interested in football, but watching those girls play is so exciting. Girls play is so exciting. Theyre so brilliant and theyre such decent people. They really such decent people. They really are. And theyre such a great team. Theyre so humble. They team. Theyre so humble. They clapped as the 72 team onto their pitch. We wondered who they were clapping for and theyve come and said thank you to us. And they are just a brilliant set of girls. They brilliant set of girls. They really are. As i know, theyre women. But towards the towards devils, theyre theyre girls. Devils, theyre theyre girls. Really. You know what . So the one thing i found watching them and im a big football fan of west ham season ticket holder, but the one thing i found watching the girls is that the joy they seem to be really loving every you see pictures of them training, they look like theyre really enjoying it and the camaraderie and the good humour, it just seems infectious. Can compare to sometimes a slightly petty animals game. Animals game. Yeah , well, i think a lot of yeah, well, i think a lot of it is because theres no prima donna prima donnas with them. They all play for each other. It doesnt matter if youre the substitute, if youre in the back room, if youre cleaning boots, they all seem to get on together and know that theyre going together to get that theyre going to win that match as a team , not just the as a team, not just the footballers, but everybody else in the back room. And everybody appreciates each other and the jobs that they do to get them where theyve got to proper teamwork. So i have to ask you, the big question of the day is Prince William, who is head of fa, is not going out there and nor is our Prime Minister, rishi sunak. Now, how do you feel about that. I do just wonder if it was the men, would they be out there . Um, and yet the women have. There . Um, and yet the women have. Well, theyve just blasted have. Well, theyve just blasted the men out of the water basically, havent they, since 1966, weve had nothing. We 1966, weve had nothing. We havent even got to a semi final. So why arent they out there . Why arent they out there saying how good these these women have been . Theyve made the country proud , even if made the country proud, even if even if they lose, which i dont think they will, they have made the country proud. And they should be treated like like the true icons that they are and the great sportspeople there. No, absolutely. Absolutely. And i mean sexist. Starmer suggested maybe we should get a bank holiday if our lionesses do bnng bank holiday if our lionesses do bring that cup back. How do you feel about that one . Well, im anything to get this game out there for all the girls. And if we get a bank holiday, great. I mean i know theres economy things behind that , but. Theres economy things behind that, but. But yes, why theres economy things behind that , but. But yes, why not . Why that, but. But yes, why not . Why not celebrate this . As i say, not celebrate this . As i say, weve waited long enough. Weve weve waited long enough. Weve waited long enough for this in football, havent we . So where will you be watching it . Did you say were watching from box park at wembley . Theres a big group of us. So yeah , were all together. The 72 yeah, were all together. The 72 squad and hopefully well manage to send the lionesses a message of good, good luck. With any luck. Oh, and one final question, sir, and youre very going to hate me for this. Whats your prediction for the score . Two one to england . No problem. No hesitation whatsoever. No hesitation whatsoever. Sue, its been an utter pleasure talking to you. Thats sue white, former England International and International Football and goalkeeper. Indeed. Sue, thank you so much. Enjoy the game. Oh, you so much. Enjoy the game. Oh, im so excited. You so much. Enjoy the game. Oh, im so excited. Im you so much. Enjoy the game. Oh, im so excited. Im sorry. Right im so excited. Im sorry. Right on sunday morning, some of you may be going to church. Not the may be going to church. Not the pub, by the way. A proper church. Some of you might be worshipping about the lionesses altar and some may be doing both. It is a pleasure now to be joined by father downes, who will be talking about what hes doing on sunday morning. Its a little bit different to your normal sunday morning. Father downes, so much for downes, thank you so much for joining this evening. So tell joining us this evening. So tell us your sunday mornings us what your sunday mornings going like. Going to look like. Its going to look slightly different. I mean, ijust do want to start by saying that my thoughts prayers are very thoughts and prayers are very much with all those affected by this horrendous story today. How awful this seems to be awful does this seems to be doing there . But in terms of doing there . But in terms of what were doing here at sunbury on week, im going to have on tims week, im going to have a short service. Normally we a short service. Normally we have a full mass and lots of hymns and singing and the sermon and things like that, but i think well be slightly shortened on sunday and then we will be moving to the parish hall will be livestreaming the final. Well be having some fizz. We will be cheering the lionesses onto glory and sandwiches and well be thanking god for our wonderful lionesses and the great gift of womens football and how marvellous it is. For the football and how marvellous it is. For the First Time Since 1966, weve got our chance to get our hands on the world cup. Its going to be able to be fantastic. Fantastic. Its brilliant, isnt it . And are you havent got very good line there, unfortunately. Father down. Did you say youll be having fiz and bacon baps there congregation pins there for your congregation pins and mean its not and bacon baps mean its not quite bread and wine but its pretty close. Its close but i think god will give us this sunday for alleviating slightly from the from the normal. From the normal. And what reaction have you had from your congregation about the huge encouragement, huge support. Weve got a very big congregation here and lots of, you know, more mature members of our congregation, but lots of youngsters and families and professionals and were all going to come together as the family of christ here at st marys on thames. And the lionesses on and bring the world cup home. Its going to be absolutely fantastic. Very exciting. I love your enthusiasm, father, while youre on, have to. Have you had on, i just have to. Have you had a quick word with, you know him upstairs about the result and can i have your prediction if thats the case . Ive had a quick word with god, and god has whispered in my ear know the referee has ear and i know the referee has had a word with god, but think 3 1 to england. No doubt at all. Brilliant. Thank you very brilliant. Thank you very much. Thanks, sarah. And father downes, whos a vicar. St marys sudbury on thames. Thank you so much for joining sudbury on thames. Thank you so much forjoining us. Enjoy your much for joining us. Enjoy your sunday morning. And come on, the lionesses right. Youre watching and listening to gb news with me. Dawn neesom coming up. Good enough for the boys, but not for the girls. The prince of wales the girls. The prince of wales and the Prime Minister arent flying to support our flying out to support our potential world cup glory. It potential world cup glory. It could be the first time we have won since 1966. We may have mentioned it a few times, so why isnt Prince William president of the fa going . Shouldnt he be . You wont want to miss whats coming up getting to grips with. Welcome back to gb news with me, dawn neesom. And welcome back to gb news with me, dawn neesom. And joining me me, dawn neesom. And joining me in the studio is former labour advisor Scott Maguire and a Benjamin KochanResearch Fellow at the bow group, even a conservative think tank. Now theres a few stories to run through, but the biggest one of this week has to be just checking my notes. Hey, yeah, a little Football Game going on now. The mighty lionesses take on spain on sunday at 11 00. Womens football has been getting a lot of coverage in support in the last few years, but sadly not from the president of the fa one, Prince William. Of the fa one, Prince William. He wont be attending this sundays World Cup Final and neither will our Prime Minister so should we be showing just as much support for the women as we would if our chaps are out there playing in the World Cup Final . If we win on sunday, once again , we have had to send the woman out to do the job. The men cant quite finish , can they . Right. Quite finish, can they . Right. So im going to come to you for another girl. Are you excited about sunday morning . Yeah i mean, actually, i was surprised. Im not a great surprised. Im not a great football fan, but i was surprised how much i surprised about how much i minded single match. Minded every single match. I mean, particularly as you kept thinking theyre not going to win this one. Theyre not going to against the matildas. And to win against the matildas. And its disappointment its itself a disappointment by the. Its itself a disappointment by the im. Its itself a disappointment by the im sorry. Im sorry. Im sorry. Absolutely. Also , whats absolutely. And also, whats a about them is , is a wonderful about them is, is when men win a match because when the men win a match because they obviously never win a tournament, you know, youre taken through the wringer to do it. And its a bit like andy murray sort of in one kind. I know. I know. And yet the women just they just do it. They just do it. And its great and its wonderful. Its great and its wonderful. Of course, Prince William should be there. And of course, he would be there if it was the men. But i mean, the other great thing is, is think how many girls are to going say, i want it. I remember my daughter watching bend it like beckham and went off to the arsenal to try shes not a footballer but actually it was great it was really inspirational. And i really inspirational. And i think and this what this says is girls can play sport , which is girls can play sport, which is most important for the girls. I most important for the girls. I dont mean, you know, were telling the men, but actually so many teenage girls think , oh, many teenage girls think, oh, no, you know, id too be masculine. Actually, those girls, the young women out there in the england, the lionesses they are fantastic. Its just inspiration. Even if youre not into football. I just think its incredible inspiration , benjamin. I mean, inspiration, benjamin. I mean, im sorry , but the prime im sorry, but the Prime Minister in Prince William , you minister in Prince William, you know, it was the men out know, if it was the men out there, thered the, like, shot. Well, i dont mind too much about rishi sunak going about rishi sunak not going because of the day, because at the end of the day, the state of the country, i dont mind being at home dealing with the problems. But Prince William, he but Prince William, only he was charge. But Prince William, only he waswell, arge. But Prince William, only he waswell, inje. But Prince William, only he waswell, in fact, thats true. Well, in fact, thats true. He probably but prince he probably wont. But Prince William charge fa, you william in charge of the fa, you know, he, the president know, what is he, the president of fa and hes the future of the fa and hes the future king the country. He should king of the country. He should be any national team, be out for any national team, playing any final, in any playing in any final, in any sport show but also sport to show support, but also to lead the way for the entire country. So i think Prince William, that his job william, given that his job at the moment largely to do the moment is largely to do these things, that is what these things, that that is what hes for. But with hes there for. Yeah, but with rishi, you know, if he can rishi, look, you know, if he can stay home and get a grip on stay at home and get a grip on the cost of living crisis, ill forgive him. But its not, you know, hes not to do that over the not going to do that over the next four is he . To next three, four days, is he . To be with you, possibly 3 be honest with you, possibly 3 or 4 years. But i mean, yeah, well, probably not. But you least at but you know, at least at least make it look hes least make it look like hes trying. W t his excuse or so scarlett, his excuse or prince excuse is that Prince Williams excuse is that its not very environmental to fly out there. Its not very environmental to fly look,iere. Its not very environmental to fly look, mate, planes going. Its not very environmental to flyany k, mate, planes going. Its not very environmental to flyany case,ite, planes going. Its not very environmental to flyany case, just planes going. Its not very environmental to flyany case, just be planes going. Its not very environmental to flyany case, just be honest. |oing. Its not very environmental to flyany case, just be honest. No g. In any case, just be honest. No no, no. I mean, of course hed hire a private darling. I mean, private one, darling. I mean, im not sure, but. But, of course. I mean, look, as you said, its an excuse. I mean, there no question that if you there is no question that if you know, men ever, ever , ever, know, the men ever, ever, ever, evenin know, the men ever, ever, ever, even in the final of a world cup, let alone win it, that hed be there and actually it would be there and actually it would be really wonderful for the lionesses to win and for him to hand out their medals. I mean, it would be memorable and great, great, great for the royal family, actually. I mean, thats family, actually. I mean, thats its really silly. I mean, its its really silly. I mean, its a Media Opportunity that is just. Yes, yes, yes. That yeah. So wills, if youre listening, mate, get out there. So what do we think about the bank holiday suggestion though. I mean turkey has suggested a bank there is one bank holiday and there is one coming any case at the coming up. In any case at the end august. End of august. Tonight, i think were getting to the point were having far too many Bank Holidays every possible holidays at every possible excuse. This excuse. I dont think this merits if the men the merits it. If the men won the world id the same. We world cup, id say the same. We dont need a bank holiday for that. And also, given that. You know, and also, given the the economy, we the state of the economy, we need productivity up. We need to get productivity up. We need to get productivity up. We need get people to work. Need to get people back to work. People have a bank people basically have a bank houday people basically have a bank holiday week. Now theyre holiday every week. Now theyre all working weeks. So controversial. Some us seven. Some of us work seven. Some of us work seven. Not not yes, yes. Well, not not yes, yes. Well, not not yes, yes. Some of us actually are in here over and over again. No, i think its i wouldnt get behind that at get behind that idea at all. I think i think i think i think it would be to have a bank would be great to have a bank holiday. I mean, to have a bank houday i mean, to have a bank holiday lionesses and holiday for the lionesses and think much money would think think how much money would be. Well, the would be spent. Well, the pubs would the pubs would love the pubs the pubs would love it. The pubs must want it. Yes, absolutely. So do we yes, absolutely. So do we think im going to ask you this one, benjamin, because you are a boy now. There is. Im not going boy now. There is. Im not going to be rude enough to ask how old you are, but im finding theres a general asian thing going on here with men watching womens football. Older men. Good football. Older men. Good evening, darling. Happy watching older men tend to sit there with a beer on the tummy. You know those kind im talking about going run rings around her in the park. I wouldnt. Im going. No, you wouldnt. Whereas younger men and youre slightly younger men and youre slightly younger appreciating women younger are appreciating women skill playing this game. So do you think there is a generational difference about how men are treating the womens football . Its not necessarily just generational. I personally havent seen a single game, but then im not massively. But youre not a football fan . Massively. No, not would you watch at no, not would you watch it at the moment . Watch the mens world car id watch the mens world car for the mens euros, but why arent you watching women . For the mens euros, but why arenits. U watching women . For the mens euros, but why arenits. U wenever| women . For the mens euros, but why aren its. U we never thoughtnen . For the mens euros, but why arenits. U we never thought to n . Just its. Ive never thought to really. Itsjust just its. Ive never thought to really. Its just not floated across radar, it were. Across my radar, as it were. Ive seen. Ive never seen. But youd watch the mens. But youd watch the mens. But youd watch the mens. But youre football but youre not a football because at the end of because its. Look at the end of day, everyone watches the world cup when the men are playing, its you cant move it. You its you cant move for it. You go pub and there rammed go to a pub and there rammed its anyone talks about. Its all anyone talks about. Its not quite same. Its just not quite the same. Maybe in years as it maybe in a few years as it develops, if we were win this develops, if we were to win this time round, maybe it would build up it takes up the culture. But it takes time and at the moment it doesnt of permeate the doesnt sort of permeate the area in the same way that the mens world cup. You think mens world cup. Do you think thats problem that it should thats a problem that it should be . No, because its not be . No, because look, its not that sport is neglected. That womens sport is neglected. Women always great in women have always had a great in tennis, example, youre tennis, for example, youre always been just on the same level as effectively, level as the men effectively, you people like you know, like people like serena are up there Serena Williams are up there with likes of Novak Djokovic with the likes of Novak Djokovic in their acclaim. In terms of their acclaim. I just that footballs just think that footballs always had quite a blokey culture its always been always had quite a blokey cultu down its always been always had quite a blokey cultu down the s always been always had quite a blokey cultu down the pub,vays been always had quite a blokey cultudown the pub, having an always had quite a blokey cultudown the pub, having a always had quite a blokey cultu down the pub, having a beer, men down the pub, having a beer, watching the football, going, oh, you youre blind. Oh, you know, you youre blind. You that sort whole you know, that sort of whole culture. Think its that culture. I dont think its that women from sports. Women are excluded from sports. Its women are excluded from sports. Ifs has its just that football has always a very male always been a very male dominated sport. Think. Dominated sport. I think. Youre out of date. I think youre out of date. Actually. Think its really actually. I think its really changed. I think lot of changed. And i think a lot of im talking the past. Im talking about the past. Im saying its changing now. Im saying its changing now. Yeah. But i mean, watching it so i watched. Youre going to watch on sunday morning. So watch it on sunday morning. So i watched euro , the euro watched the euro, the euro finals that the women won, which we won the women won. The women woii. Won. The men doing that one, they didnt quite win. They didnt quite win the euros, did they . So the women won. And i mean, i felt the same as as actually as the mens is. I mean, there is an awful look. Theres a incredible row going on about what time the pubs can open on sunday. I mean, there is a massive, massive move to actually have everybody watching it. I think you know what, scarlett right. This is like, oh, we left it too late to apply for licences hold on a minute. Youve known about this tournament for quite a while. Coming up, if it been the coming up, if it had been the mens, have made sure mens, youd have made sure that. If the boys that. Okay, well, if the boys bnng that. Okay, well, if the boys bring cup well have bring the cup home, well have the licences sorted out. So all the licences sorted out. So all the pubs can stay open. But its not just a gender thing. Not just about thing. Its not just about female male sport. Female sport versus male sport. We the same with we also have the same thing with rugby, a long time it rugby, where for a long time it was not seen on the same level as football. We same as football. We had the same thing with the Rugby World Cup where the pubs wouldnt open, people see if it people couldnt go and see if it was early on that over time was early on and that over time has its become more has developed. Its become more popular, been promoted. I popular, its been promoted. I think is think the same thing is happening with womens sport. Watching on so youre watching it on sunday. On. So youre watching it on surwell, on. So youre watching it on surwell, ill on. So youre watching it on surwell, ill do n. So youre watching it on surwell, ill do it for you. Well, ill do it for you. Yeah. Ill say and ill let yeah. And ill say and ill let you know if i enjoy it. Ill definitely watch. Just send me message. Just send me a message. Im going to phone you and make sure youre actually watching it on the oh, yeah. Window. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The window. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The window. Are you going pub no, i mean, are you going pub with somebody sneaking open a bit early because coming bit early because i am coming in here straight afterwards. Bit early because i am coming in herokay. Ght afterwards. Okay. Okay. So some of us dont for so some of us dont work for day weeks. Benjamin is a boy. Obviously he does now. Sorry thats being turned i thats being turned to night. I know. Sorry. I apologise to know. Im sorry. I apologise to all the watching and please all the men watching and please get behind girls right. Get behind the girls right. Okay. On, i asked you okay. Now, early on, i asked you out with the womens world out there with the womens world cup. About cup. Were talking about non stop, less than non stop, arent we . Less than two i was excited for two days away. I was excited for sport, women play now. Sport, as when women play now. Now of have been now some of you have been getting touch. Thanks to some getting in touch. Thanks to some of stephen said no, im of you. Stephen said no, im excited sportsmen excited when good sportsmen excel, be men or women, excel, be they men or women, theyll they at theyll come on. They are at some of goals, some of some of these goals, some of these goals are amazing. Meanwhile mark, meanwhile mark, not my mark, hopefully says go lionesses. Yes, hopefully a ladies world cup football will give the mens Team Absolutely team and theyre absolutely hopeless. Woke manager hopeless. Woke manager Gareth Southgate a kick up the backside. Its been 57 long years well served mark. Meanwhile angel thank you angel said not only not excited, but not in the least bit interested. Although to be honest, that goes for all football. Well, thats for all football. Well, thats a fair point, but im great for women. Its inspirational. Women. Its inspirational. Meanwhile, jan says out of love to play in the Girls Football team when i was younger. Go on the girls. Brilliant. I love that one. Me too. I got hockey instead. Not right. That one. Me too. I got hockey instead. Not right. Coming up next, as many sports make moves to ban transgender participants from female only categories, the latest move is to ban transgender players from chess and then continuing agenda. Graham lynham has been cancelled from the Edinburgh Fringe for his view. But what about the his view. But what about the likes of Ricky Gervais and Frankie Boyle . They remain popular, offensive and cancelled. Dont miss whats coming up next. Loads to up welcome back. Dawn neesom here welcome back. Dawn neesom here on gb news. Still with me in the studio is former labour advisor Scarlett Mccgwire and benjamin loughnane. Now Research Fellow for the bow group. Conservative think tank now and i have apologised by the way. I apologised by the way. I apologise if i was being slightly sexist to benjamin earlier on. I love him really, honestly and i am going to make sure watches football on sure he watches the football on sunday. Cycling and sunday. Right now, cycling and rowing have been the first sports to ban biological males from competing against women. We from competing against women. We all that. Understandable, all get that. Understandable, but the of chess has but now the world of chess has has waded in to this debate as well. Now, i understand you dont want a strap in a huge man going up against you in a physical sport like boxing . Probably not a good idea , but probably not a good idea, but chess now really , i mean, i chess now really, i mean, i cant play. I struggle with draughts. You wouldnt be surprised to hear that, would you . So, benjamin , you actually you . So, benjamin, you actually might not do womens football, but you play chess. But you play chess. Not very well. Okay, so what do you make of this story . So this is basically the story is a french transgender chess player has complained to the International Chess federation who have banned transgender women from female chess tournament. And she is chess tournament. And she is saying that she should be allowed now , the issue is that allowed now, the issue is that she can still play in open tournaments. She can still play in open tournaments. I mean, most chess competitions are anyone can play. Yeah. But they have set up a female competition just so to encourage more women to play the game basically. So whats why game basically. So whats why why doesnt she just play the normal chess competition . Well, its obviously it doesnt have the same issues as Something Like boxing example, where it is or rugby where you could genuinely get injured when youve got this bloke coming running or punching you running at you or punching you in whatever else, but in a face or whatever else, but you know, chess, obviously theres a reason why its separated. Said theyre separated. They said theyre suspending it for two years while they study it and have a better understanding of what the differences are between the two because dont want put because they dont want to put loads people into the female loads of people into the female chess tournament. And if there chess tournament. And if there is any advantage or problems that come from this, they get a lot of complaints and it would be a huge problem. They get all sorts of legal issues and trouble as a result. So i think they havent said theyre banning transgenders from playing again. Playing chess again. Thats why i no, no, no. Thats why i mean, you can go and play chess still. Its still problem. Still. Its still a problem. Still completely no, its still completely fine. Think its just of fine. I think its just one of these ridiculous stories we these ridiculous stories that we always have to deal with where unfortunately, we all of unfortunately, we spend all of our talking the trans our time talking about the trans wars and its a very small portion of the population. Its an even smaller portion of the population who play chess or compete sports or whatever compete in sports or whatever else. Obviously, a huge else. Obviously, its a huge flagship culture issue. But flagship culture war issue. But look, got so many other look, weve got so many other more important things to talk about. Why do always to about. Why do we always have to go very small go on about this very small minority people . Minority of people . It is a bit of i mean, it is a bit of a weird one. This story as we all get the physicals. Actually, its weirder than you think because the english Chess Federation have no problem with transgender women playing in the ladies matches. In fact, in the ladies matches. In fact, theyve theyve theyve got one playing for england. Right. They say absolutely no problem that that we think we think we also they say they think women play chess. Really well. There was a champion before the war, the World Champion for 17 years was a woman and only stopped when she was killed by a bomb in clapham. Right. So i mean, really, really sad. But they they so what they said is, is no, of course , were perfectly no, of course, were perfectly happy with trans women are women are perfectly happy with trans women. The reason that we have women. The reason that we have we have womens competitions is because it is a massively male dominated sport and actually they just like a bit of space. What they say is that the International Federation is dominated by the russians and its about putin. Putin doesnt like transgender and thats what its all about. And thats why the english are absolutely sticking to their guns and saying anybody can play chess. And if you say youre a woman, then well put you in the womens competition. Were absolutely happy for it. Oh, wow. Wow. And scarlett being much cleverer than me, you did actually look up the difference between men and womens, right . Can you explain . Is there. No, there i mean, its no, there isnt. I mean, its about really about just about its really about just male domination. About its really about just male domination. I about its really about just male domination. I mean, the male domination. I mean, the fact that that we had whats. Anyway, ive left her name out. So the fact that we had this woman march for 17 years, i mean, there are really, really good women players. I mean, actually two labour mps that wins. Angela and angela eagle and her twin were chess champions in liverpool. I mean, there are there are women. Its there are there are women. Its just that its a very, very male dominated game, not because of their brains, but but partly because, you know, theyre theyre brought up. I have to say that that i have tried chess and i am completely i know the rules. I am useless at it. I do rules. I am useless at it. I do not have a brain that works for chess. My mind doesnt either. My brain doesnt work for most things. On a friday night. Hopefully youre doing better than me out there, right . Meanwhile, have another meanwhile, we have another gender father ted, gender war story. Father ted, creator lyneham, has creator of grand lyneham, has staged his show outside the Scottish Parliament after it was cancelled from two fringe venues in the Edinburgh Fringe. Now if comedy is art and is therefore subjective , why are we still subjective, why are we still cancelling people if there isnt an audience for it, then people simply wont go , thats fine, simply wont go, thats fine, thats your choice. But people are wanting to see this. This show, before it was cancelled, was sold out. And what is the difference between grahams views . Its that old transgender. He speaks out for womens rights. His father, creator. Rights. His father, ted creator. Remember or comedy compared to Ricky Gervais, whos made similar jokes Ricky Gervais, whos made similarjokes about Ricky Gervais, whos made similar jokes about transgender issues or Frankie Boyle, whos joked about rape , which joked about rape, which personally i find slightly more offensive benjamin , why . Offensive . Um, benjamin, why . Why is someone making a joke about the transgender issue acceptable . Because youve. But acceptable . Because youve. But graham lynam isnt. Graham lynam isnt. Yeah, well, the funny thing about the history of the Edinburgh Fringe is that it was originally the edinburgh festival. Yeah. And they had festival. Yeah. And they had this thing where they were quite, you know, the old establishment. The establishment. Remember the people to wear people who used to wear pinstripe and hats pinstripe suits and bowler hats and copy of the daily and carry a copy of the Daily Telegraph who longer the telegraph who are no longer the establishment said, we dont telegraph who are no longer the estabirreverent said, we dont telegraph who are no longer the estabirreverent acts. Aid, we dont telegraph who are no longer the estabirreverent acts. We we dont telegraph who are no longer the estabirreverent acts. We dontont want irreverent acts. We dont want irreverent acts. We dont want that arent, you want things that arent, you know, keeping our polite know, in keeping with our polite british humour. And so british sense of humour. And so a people went off and a few people went off and started the Edinburgh Fringe. So that could have free speech that you could have free speech and you could put on and comedy and you could put on any you could say, if any acts and you could say, if you to come along, you want to come along, let people with feet, as people vote with their feet, as it were. So it seems a bit weird. The fringe has now become the establishment. Now the establishment. Its now become was created to become what it was created to oppose are now gatekeeping oppose and are now gatekeeping against seemingly in against what is seemingly in reverse. The people who think theyre establishment theyre anti establishment are actually the establishment actually now the establishment and theyre doing exactly the same thing that they originally oppose. So i graham oppose. So i think graham linehan, you know, a titan linehan, you know, hes a titan of comedy. He created not only of comedy. He created not only father ted, which the father ted, which is the personal favourite mine. Yeah personal favourite of mine. Yeah brilliant made, but brilliant sitcoms ever made, but also the crowd, which is also also the it crowd, which is also another of greatest another one of the greatest sitcom british sitcoms made in the previous 20, 30 years. And he also, i believe, did black books, didnt he, or . Yeah, i did. Yeah. I mean, he looking just at his output, this is someone who shouldnt be cancelable in the comedy world. I mean, hes paved the way for so many things. And he also, by casting young unknown irish actors say graham norton, for example. Yes of course, introduced other people into the world who are now , you know, world who are now, you know, thansin world who are now, you know, titans in their own right. It seems ridiculous to me that someone like him for the horrible crime of saying maybe we should have a bit more safeguarding. And scarlett pittman and scarlett, hes been actually quite upset by hes given a very tearful interview saying mental saying its affecting his Mental Health, affecting his family. We have to ask ourselves, so we have to ask ourselves, i mean, you know, should we sense a comedy . Surely i think this is more slightly it. Who is doing the censoring is what we have to ask. The reason that at the venues that he was and he was booked into two yes we know the name of one we dont know the name. The second was was it was purely commercial is they said if we have him were going to lose other people. So do you i mean, you can say to the venues youre not allowed to make that decision. Youre not allowed to say actually , we really mostly say actually, we really mostly you do , you know, ngt stuff and you do, you know, ngt stuff and you do, you know, ngt stuff and you have to have him. But but i dont know who they is. I mean, the point is, is that these were these were commercial decisions. We might not agree with them ,. We might not agree with them, but actually it was the venues that it was the venue. That it was the venue. I dont buy that. I dont buy that. Well. Well. So who cancelled well. Well. So who cancelled him . Him . Well, i think, you know, you dont negotiate with terrorists. If someone says were not going if this guy is going to perform, if this guy is on stage, you say, okay, dont. No, no, but this this is no, no, but but this this is just youre bow group. Just me. Youre the bow group. This commercial. This is this is a commercial. This is a commercial. It was commercial commercial. It was a commercial decision. Wasnt decision. Right. This wasnt somebody on high runs the somebody on high who runs the fringe saying youre not allowed to have him. These were venues that said, no, were not going to have him. The backlash is too much. So were running out of time. Right. Just one quick answer is for joking. Right. Just one quick answer is forjoking about is anything up forjoking about scarlett, yes or no . Joke about scarlett, yes or no . Joke about whatever you want and no one should be offended. I i think i think its not the subject matter. M atter. Matter. Its how its done. Its how its done. Its how its done. I think if its more funny than its offensive, then its okay. If its more offensive than funny, dont do it. Perfect. Right. Okay. Well, thats it from me today. Thank you to my wonderful angus and up wonderful panel, angus and up next a wonderful patrick next is a wonderful Patrick Christys very funny and christys who is very funny and not input marked not cancel his input marked ellen. Patrick, whats going on tonight . Hey , fabulous show, though. Hey, fabulous show, though. Thank very for that. Thank you very much for that. Yes. I will be on your screens for the next two hours. Were going to be talking about whether should be whether or not william should be to going cup final. To going the World Cup Final. Im talking about im going to be talking about jonathan going and Jonathan Van Tam going and working were going working for moderna. Were going live to italy talk about the live to italy to talk about the migrant crisis there, because thats all coming our way. Should a jihadi bride now be a tiktok influencer . And of tiktok influencer . And of course, course, of course. Course, of course, of course. We are be about are going to be talking about that desperately distressing case of lucy letby. Ill be analysing her psychologically and asking whether or not evil actually exists or actually can. Mental health issues. Excuse me. Mental health issues. Excuse me. All of that is coming your way. Ive got a fabulous panel with nina mischka. Ive got housewives favourite aidan magee and oldroyd as well. And David Oldroyd bolt as well. Were going lighting were to going be lighting up your the next two your screens for the next two hours, right now your hours, but right now is your weather a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello again. Its aidan magee here from the met office with the gb news forecast overnight. Storm betty will bring lashings of wind and rain to the uk in some places, gales as well as in other places. Thunderstorm betty was named by met eireann. The Irish Met Service because of the strongest winds will be affecting southern ireland overnight, but also western parts of england, southwest scotland , Northern Ireland and scotland, Northern Ireland and wales will see gales and in some places 60 or even 70 mile per hour wind gusts. The worse the winds move through overnight. But theres also the risk of thunderstorms developing across the east of england and persistent rain for scotland and northern so all all, Northern Ireland. So all in all, a lively of weather and a lively night of weather and a warm night as well. Staying fairly muggy. Start off fairly muggy. We start off saturday with the wet and windy weather moving irish sea weather moving through irish sea coast , Northern Ireland weather moving through irish sea coast, Northern Ireland as well as scotland. The most persistent as scotland. The most persistent rain arrives into the north of scotland, but well continue to see further spells of wet weather for the rest of scotland. Northern ireland and northwest. Across northwest england. Across the rest England Wales rest of england and wales brightens be some brightens up. Therell be some showers some decent showers but also some decent sunshine. The southeast , sunshine. And in the southeast, 26 celsius, its to going stay relatively humid. Sunday all in all, is a brighter day, particularly for northern areas. Again, a mix of sunny spells and showers still a brisk breeze from the southwest. But thats from the southwest. But thats going to be bringing once more some higher temperatures at times. So mid 20s possible in the southeast , turning even the southeast, turning even warmer the south through next warmer in the south through next week, staying changeable in the north. A brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Well. Good evening. Its 9 00 on television, on radio and online in the United Kingdom and all around the world. Unless of course, you are a flat earther. This is mark dolan tonight. I am Patrick Christys in for the big man in my big opinion as rishi Sunak King Charles and Prince William are criticised for missing england womens World Cup Final. Is this misogyny in my take at ten, after advising the public to get a covid jab, is he unethical for Jonathan Van Tam jv to his mate to take a job at the vaccine manufacturer moderna it certainly whiffs a bit, doesnt it . And as britain continues to be shortchanged by their £480 million deal with the french, is the next wave of Illegal Migrants on their way from the mediterranean . Were from the mediterranean . Were going live to italy for that. Going live to italy for that. One plus, of course, after the guilty verdict of lucy letby and well be asking a