All new spending, with the exception of Vital Services and protecting vulnerable people, will stop immediately. The government is to relax planning permission for new onshore wind farms. The changes which come into force immediately mean communities can apply to their local authority to have turbines built. Local authority to have turbines built. Communities may also benefit from cheaper energy. The government hopes the new rules will help avoid a potential rebellion from some of its backbench peers. The Shadow Energy secretary , ed miliband, energy secretary, ed miliband, says reluctance to build more wind farms has led to Higher Energy costs. Energy costs. The government is being held to ransom by a bunch of tory backbenchers who since 2015 have stopped onshore wind being built in england and that has raised bills for families by £180 for every family in britain, were going through a cost of living crisis. Surely now those in st giles those conservative mps can see that its much better to have onshore wind built and cut bills for families. Bills for families. The schools minister says the government has been very proactive in dealing with the concrete crisis and has been issuing guidance since 2018. More than 100 schools in england and 33in scotland are at risk of collapse due to aerated concrete. Other public buildings have also been closed , including have also been closed, including a theatre in dartford. Both Gillian Keegan and the prime minister, rishi sunak, are under growing pressure over the issue , laughing gas will be banned and those caught in possession of the drug will face unlimited fines or up to two years in jail. New measures is expected to be introduced this year. Well tougher penalties well also see tougher penalties for the supply and production of the drug. Its been linked to antisocial behaviour with heavy use possibly leading to anaemia , nerve damage or paralysis. Its ten people have been taken to hospital after a bus collided with a car on the cleddau bridge in pembrokeshire in west wales. One of the drivers was trapped and had to be freed by firefighters and was then subsequently evacuated by air ambulance. And spains football ambulance. And spains Football Federation has sacked jorge vilda, the coach of its winning world cup womens team. Vilda world cup womens team. Vilda was the only member of the Coaching Staff not to stand down in protest after the midfielder Jenni Hermoso was kissed on the lips by Federation President luis rubiales. This is gb news luis rubiales. This is gb news live across the uk. Ill be back with more in just under an hours with more in just under an hours time. But now its over to. Nigel to. Nigel good evening. Well a term time has begun. There is no rac concrete in westminster yet the kids are all back at school and theyre busy. Yesterday is a really big day. Its the third reading of the energy bill. Now this is all about us becoming compliant with our net zero targets and a very major push for renewables. In particular, the emphasis being with onshore wind. And you might have seen ed wind. And you might have seen ed miliband in that clip on the news a moment ago and the government saying, look, weve got to stop this ban. We must build more onshore wind. There are two things going on here. One is the continued cult of net zero that the uk must be a world leader. We must get to net zero more quickly than any other developed country. The second is the continued belief that Renewable Energy is plentiful, free and cheap, which frankly , free and cheap, which frankly, it has never, ever been. And ed, goodness knows how many times on this programme weve been through the problems of intermittent ac and the need to backit intermittent ac and the need to back it all up, let alone the fact that cost wise it just doesnt work without subsidy. But theres Something Else going on in this bill which i believe to be far more sinister and frankly , even though frankly, even though parliaments just come back, i am totally astonished at the lack of media debate and coverage. Well find out later coverage. Well find out later on this evening what amendments have passed and what havent. So well know the actual shape of this legislation before it heads to the house of lords. This legislation before it heads to the house of lords. But this legislation before it heads to the house of lords. But there to the house of lords. But there are unbelievably , it seems to are unbelievably, it seems to me, provision is in this bill that would allow for the creation of criminal offences. Creation of criminal offences. Im going to repeat that allow for the creation of criminal offences. If businesses. And heres the rub. If individual heres the rub. If individual householders dont tell the truth or dont meet up to new Energy Requirements for their houses , as it seems to me to be houses, as it seems to me to be truly and utterly extraordinary, yes, you could be prosecuted for providing false information about your houses Energy Efficiency or for the obstruction of an enforcement authority. This takes us down authority. This takes us down the direction where we will all have to have metres metres for water, metres for gas, metres for electricity. Im still fighting like crazy against thames water. Who keeps sending thames water. Who keeps sending me these . You must now give us a date to come and pick your water metre. I dont want one. They now tell me my bills will be higher unless i comply. But i can see with this legislation all of this will become mandatory. What it represents to mandatory. What it represents to me is yet another potential massive expansion of the state and its power over our lives. And yet it is getting so little debate should the government be able to have these powers . I dont believe they should. Let dont believe they should. Let me know your thoughts. Farage at me know your thoughts. Farage at gbnews. Com. Lois perry is a campaigner and director of car 26. Lois, i guess in a sense this bill coming back today , as this bill coming back today, as i say, the summer hols are over. Yeah. The sun shining. Yeah been almost no pre coverage of this debate at all. Well there wouldnt be any pre coverage would there because the Mainstream Media are ushering in the whole net zero agenda. But the net zero agenda is not about net zero and its nothing with being green. Nothing to do with being green. Its about, as you correctly stated just now, power grab, stated just now, a power grab, more control and having more state control and having less and less jurisdiction over our lives. And dont forget, if everything smart metered, which one of the bits in the legislation there would, you know, would account for , you know, would account for, you wont able to say to wont be able to say no to a smart metre. And what does a smart metre. And what does a smart metre. And what does a smart metre means that smart metre mean . It means that your electricity , means your electricity, it means your life remotely controlled in life is remotely controlled in exactly the same way as a Digital Currency or whatever. You can have your you know, if you do a social media post, you can be switched off. You can have your hot water switched off remotely. I dont want to go down any conspiracy avenues, but this and the this is really scary and the government secondary government using secondary legislation to actually bring in criminal offences, that means a minister can go into the go into work. One morning and make an offence, make up an offence, no scrutiny of parliament . No. No. Going through the house of lords. Its like covid i think they got a bit power hungry dunng they got a bit power hungry during covid. Youre a campaigner, youve got organisation. Yeah. The got an organisation. Yeah. The very idea that a minister could go for secondary legislation to create criminal offences, it strikes me as being fundamental unconstitutional. Its orwellian against the way we do things. Yeah. Is there not, not a yeah. Is there not, not a network of people and organisations who could legally challenge this . Yeah i do believe there is. And the thing is can you believe, nigel, that this has been brought in by conservative government . I mean, you know, well conservative in name anyway. I mean imagine what labour party will do with this. You know, they, theyre communist. Im not sure the labour party would be any different to this that you could literally. But i think at the moment weve got a situation where the people the people think, oh okay, the tories but labour would tories are bad, but labour would be worse. I think thats the only that the tories only thing that the tories have got their at the got in their favour at the moment. No, youre right, it moment. But no, youre right, it could challenged. But could be legally challenged. But whos legally challenge whos going to legally challenge it when all this esg stuff is going youve going on . When youve got companies they challenge companies who, if they challenge anything or do anything, even advertising on the wrong tv station, you know, that they can lose ability to, you know, lose their ability to, you know, borrow the market. But borrow money on the market. But many lois, that we many would say, lois, that we face a Climate Emergency that many would say we dont well know. But many would say that we were thousands were okay and thousands of scientists out to scientists can be ruled out to say this and that. Its our responsibility morally to lead the world in this , that we do the world in this, that we do this first and others will follow. Follow. Its nonsense. All of the china, india, africa, all of those countries are not taking a blind bit of notice of this. Even if you believe in the whole c02 even if you believe in the whole co2 style of causing, you know, manmade climate. Do you not believe in it . No. No. No. No at all. But no, i dont. I dont. Because if you actually look history, theres look throughout history, theres been where co2 levels been periods where co2 levels have been higher and the temperature been lower and temperature has been lower and also theres been periods in history where weve been much hotter than are when hotter than we are today when there was such thing the there was no such thing as the industrial or but Industrial Revolution or but thats my personal belief, which im to. But more and im entitled to. But more and more nowadays, youre not entitled to have any personal beliefs or personal opinions. But even if you do buy into the whole narrative of, yeah, its completely nonsensical, we make up less than 1 of global emissions. None of the other big countries, all continents are doing this. This is about the doing this. This is about the deindustrialisation of the west. Thats all it is. Deindustrialisation of the west. Thats all it is. Thats all thats all it is. Thats all its about. It really, really is. But were told green jobs , but were told green jobs, green growth. Ed miliband, you saw him on the news. Ed miliband, cheap energy, loads of green jobs. This is what were told. There is a broad Cross Party Consensus on this. Oh, yes. The house of commons. No, there is, because theres a theres a globalist agenda industrialised the west. And to create what i believe is a neo marxist state, i really , neo marxist state, i really, really do. And i think they use covid and they say power corrupts and absolute power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. They corrupts absolutely. They theyre a bit oh my god, we havent got covid anymore. Havent got covid anymore. Right. Okay. Climate emergency. They want to be able the ministers to come into work one morning, create a law and it be enacted. The next day. Why . Because its absolute power corrupts absolutely. Corrupts absolutely. You may be right. Lois perry, thank you. Now, you may agree or disagree with what lois said there. I am agnostic , completely there. I am agnostic, completely agnostic on whether Carbon Dioxide , by the way, without dioxide, by the way, without which the world cant survive and plants cant grow. Im completely agnostic on whether increase in levels of co2 put temperatures up or not. I simply dont know. My position is what were doing in the name game of trying to get to net zero to stop temperatures rising is actually self defeating and being ignored, as lois did say , being ignored, as lois did say, by china. India indonesia and many, many others. Well, joining me is a former member of parliament and former minister Angela Knight and, of course, former chief executive of energy uk , angela in your roles as uk, angela in your roles as economic secretary of the treasury and working in energy , treasury and working in energy, the first point i want to come to with you is this fundamental point about the relationship between government and the individual. As i say , we dont individual. As i say, we dont yet know the final shape of this Legislature Action until we see what the amendments are and how its voted on. But to me, angela, the very idea that this legislation could give a minister the potential through secondary legislation to create criminal offences surely goes against everything we believe in regarding of the issue. Regarding of the issue. Yeah, it does. I mean, i totally agree with you actually, nigel, and i think your last guest said, you know, or you said, well, whos going to, whos got something, whos got any locus on sorting this out . And the answer is it is the members of parliament. And i would have thought that the members of parliament actually would get to grips with something that is this draconian as it is being reported at the moment. And whilst there may be a in certain circumstances a case in certain circumstances to a backstop power for the to have a backstop power for the purposes of, i dont know, rogue landlords or something along those sorts of lines , what there those sorts of lines, what there doesnt seem to meet is , is it doesnt seem to meet is, is it right at all to say that you as an individual, unless you insulate your house more, were going to find you a great amount of money that we used to have something called the nudge unit. Do you remember the nudge unit . Yeah, the nudge unit. Its called Something Else now, but the nudge unit was all about saying instead of doing the stick bit , do the carrots get stick bit, do the carrots get people to act in enlightened self interest . And that was what self interest . And that was what the nudge unit is about. And thats what should be used , used thats what should be used, used in the case of us all being , um, in the case of us all being, um, better with our use of energy in the sense that we dont leave all the lights on. You know, we do do a bit more insulation. We basically act in a little bit more responsible way. Thats whats required, not draconian powers. I dont agree with them. Anything anyway, and i sincerely hope theres enough members of parliament who now it has parliament there who now it has been flagged up. Wake up, smell been flagged up. Wake up, smell the roses and know theyve got to some changes. To make some changes. Im with you, yeah, i mean, im with you, angela. Rogue angela. I think for rogue landlords, who own vast landlords, people who own vast amounts of property and let them. Be people. Yeah, there could be people lying and cheating on all of this and that. Yes. Fine the law needs to be enforced. The very thought that it could apply to private residences is beyond me. But isnt the fact that its even on the fact that its even being put on the table . As i say, i repeat, we dont yet know the final shape. Yeah. Doesnt it doesnt it just show since your time in parliament the extent to which were moving into a period of Big Government i and again, i think that that is something that certainly we have all felt for some time that more and more is of government is intruding into lives in a way that really should not be the case. I that really should not be the case. I appreciate that covid has just been mentioned and the pandemic and the lockdown and all those sorts of things. And yes, i think many of us did find that whilst very important points were made, especially at the when didnt know the start, when we didnt know what disease was. What on earth this disease was. But know , the medical but once you know, the medical science had got to grips to it, that telling us and ordering us to do x and not do y was a bit too far. I mean, i think that the energy bill to get back to the point in hand , shouldnt be the point in hand, shouldnt be talking about fining us. It should be talking about how are we to going fund small Scale Nuclear power, what are we going to about the grid . Those to do about the grid . All those other things, nigel, are other things, nigel, which are so important if were going to do well, i think we ought to do and make ourselves more and that is make ourselves more Energy Secure or more sustainable generally, and be careful generally on our environment, on our waste, because its a world that we want to pass to on our children and grandchildren. And many more generations. Excuse me. And that isnt a question of am i a net zero . Yes or am i a net zero . No i think im common sense. I think i sit in the reasonable category of wanting to do the right thing , but not having right thing, but not having criminal legislation put at the back of me and im losing my voice. Voice. I know. Well, i ill give you a couple of moments off by asking you a final thought and question. If you can recover in time and hope you can. And the will you be pleased . Angela, if will you be pleased . Angela, if you look out of your window in rural england and see a great big , huge onshore wind farm, is big, huge onshore wind farm, is that the right direction for us to be going in . Because it seems outside of the authority korean stuff, thats the big push , the stuff, thats the big push, the big change thats coming today do onshore wind farms work. Great big ones . No, i wouldnt like to see it if i lived in a community. A village. Youve got some hills. Village. Youve got some hills. It doesnt intrude, particularly. And we get some serious benefits from it. And anybody who is badly affected gets compensated. You know, we have compensated. You know, we have compulsory purchase arrangements in the uk, long standing ones, because when people do get impacted by infrastructure , they impacted by infrastructure, they need to be bought out. So done on that way. Then id say there is a future for them. Okay. I dont agree with is carpeting our hills . No. But if local our hills . No. But if local communities agree and its done in that sensitive way, then its a different kettle of fish altogether. Well angela, i think altogether. Well angela, i think a little wind turbine for home generation in rural areas might work , but these vast arrays on work, but these vast arrays on englands green and pleasant land i think are vile. Well agree on that one to disagree. But as ever, ill thank you. Thank you again. We agree on that one, nigel. We agree on that one. We agree on that one. Okay. Thank you for coming on the program, angela, as ever. In a moment, we have an exclusive interview with blade runner. Interview with a blade runner. These are the people dedicated to vandalising the ulez cameras. In a moment, well find out the motivation of the man that we interview. And ill ask you to have a think morally is what hes doing. Its outside the law. But is it morally right, right or wrong radio. I asked you , should the i asked you, should the government have powers to make us criminals if we dont live up to their net zero expectations . Your answers, i guess, fairly predictable. Ron says this is an predictable. Ron says this is an absolute disgrace. The whole green agenda is about power and control and how long until we are fined for eating too much meat or going on holiday. Too often . Well, ryan, once we have often . Well, ryan, once we have a central bank Digital Currency, this will all become very easy for government. Steve says most houses in this country have been built to the current building regulations as for huge unwanted bills, i just havent got the money. Looks like prison for a lot of pensioners. And finally, david says if we dont pay our tv licence , well go to court tv licence, well go to court and be prosecute and unable to pay and be prosecute and unable to pay council tax prison, enter the country illegally, you get put in a luxury hotel and given pocket money, say no to net zero prosecutions. David i dont think this will come to pass for me. And the reason ive debated it tonight , it is. I think its it tonight, it is. I think its outrageous that its even been put on the table. Now we are exactly one week to in the extension of the ulez zone. It extension of the ulez zone. It was this time last week we were doing a live show from cudham right on the borders of Kent County Council and Greater London, the furthest point from Central London at which these cameras have been put. There was huge passion there. And one of huge passion there. And one of the things we touched on has been happening ever since is the sheer level of vandalism to the cameras. I am told that up to 800 cameras was have been vandalised. Now, gb news is ray addison has conducted an exclusive interview with one of the most prominent blade runners as theyre called. We have clearly kept the geography within london or Greater London secret. Weve disguised his voice, but it is a very interesting and very revealing interview. This is what one man can do to the ulez in less than half a day. Day. Some call them vigilantes, others criminals. They call themselves the ulez blade runners around 100 activists all using any means necessary to disable cameras taking the fight against the london mayors clean air policy to the streets. Lee is part of a small group of saboteurs who go out most weeks speaking exclusively on camera to gb news, he says sadiq khan is targeting the citys most vulnerable to charge the poorest of people to drive around is unacceptable. Unacceptable. Mayor sadiq khan talks about the fact that nine out of ten of cars are compliant. If nine if nine cars out, ten are compliant, it who are the 1 in 10, the 1 in 10 are the poorest people , the ones who cant people, the ones who cant afford a compliant car. People, the ones who cant afford a compliant car. So afford a compliant car. So theyre the ones youre charging. So therefore its a tax on the poor. Its that simple. Yeah. But the mayor of london disputes claim. Disputes that claim. Decision expand and the decision to expand and the ultra low emission zone to all london a difficult all of london was a difficult one. It wasnt an easy one, but i think a vital decision i think its a vital decision andifs i think its a vital decision and its the right one. Let me tell why we know the tell you why we now know the evidence in relation to the consequences of air pollution. It leads to around 4000 premature deaths a year. It leads to children having stunted lungs forever for adults with a whole host of Health Issues from asthma to cancer to mensa to heart disease, we also now know that one of the most effective ways to reduce air pollution is with us. How do we know that in Central London weve seen a reduction of around 50 of toxicity. Nitrogen dioxide also toxicity. Nitrogen dioxide also a third fewer children being admitted to hospital with air pollution related illnesses. The blade runners are supported by an Online Community that maps the location of londons almost 2700 ulez cameras as the red pins show working units. The black ones working units. The black ones have been disabled. Have been disabled. I would normally go around on the group to see posts or pictures of people that have put up with cameras, particularly the new ones. If theyve just been put up near to where i live. And then, yeah, ill literally make a note of that, jot that down and then ill arrange a date as to when ill go out and ill deal with that camera on that specific evening when, according to the met crimes relating to ulez cameras rocketed by 77 in august, lee says hes personally disabled. More than 60 cameras in the last year. Hes developed his own technique , which bypasses own technique, which bypasses tfls security measures in a matter of seconds. Gb news has matter of seconds. Gb news has decided not to show footage of the way the cameras might be disabled to avoid the risk of copycats. Its important to stress, of course, that what youre doing is illegal. Do you consider yourself to be a criminal . Im not. Im not a criminal in any any way, shape or form. Im you know, im just literally im you know, im just literally im doing what i believe is right. And ill stand by that and ill sit on that hill until the time comes when im not. No longer allowed to. Although tfl says the ulez expansion will Bring Health Benefits to a further 5 Million People living in Greater London, lee questions that justification , saying this has nothing to do with air pollution. You know, weve seen videos, theres Video Evidence of People Living in houses with black mould, mushrooms growing off the wall. So this notion that for thousand deaths a year from car pollution is Utter Nonsense , pollution is Utter Nonsense, other groups would strongly disagree. Disagree. Leo murray is director of innovation at possible the Climate Action group. Basically, about half of the air pollution, the stuff thats in the air that is dangerous to human health in out in the environment, not inside our homes. About half of that comes from motor traffic. So you know, this is not in dispute. This is extremely well understood. Science acas meanwhile, lee is adamant that the blade runners will not stop their sabotage. Theres enough of us, myself included, where were not going to give up. Were not going to give up until either all them cameras or or tfl and cameras are gone or or tfl and steve khan or the next mayor turns around and scraps or scraps. The idea completely. The transport for london spokesperson said the ulez is vital in tackling the triple challenge of air pollution. The Climate Emergency and congestion vandalism on our network is unacceptable and all incidents are reported to the police for investigation. Criminal damage investigation. Criminal damage to ulez cameras puts the perpetrators at risk of prosecution and life changing injuries while simultaneously risking the safety of the public. Risking the safety of the pubuc. The risking the safety of the public. The ulez is not about making money and annual net revenue from ulez will fall below zero by 20 2627 as compliance increases. Ray compliance increases. Ray addison gb news. Well, a great piece of work there from ray addison. A very interesting interview. You got something of the motivation of the guy that is one of the most prominent runners in prominent blade runners in london. Want to make it clear london. I want to make it clear that we as a station, as a channel, you know, dont condone lawbreaking in any way at all. But i must say, i was very surprised last week to see ian duncan smith, of all people, sir ian, saying he absolutely understood people in his understood why people in his part of outer london were doing this to me. I part of outer london were doing this to me. I feel this is the biggest outbreak of lawlessness s weve seen in the country since poll tax and the riots back in 1990. There were some that say to me, well , this will that say to me, well, this will all go away before very long, but just have a look at this map and youll see that is a live map of the damage you can see in black, the damaged cameras on the outskirts of london. This one week on and every day , one week on and every day, khans ulez vans are going around putting up new cameras and they are being removed. I and they are being removed. I have a feeling that this campaign isnt going to stop any time soon. I dont think theres any stopping the blade runners quite where this ends. I dont know. But despite all the claims and by the way, as we gb news as you saw both sides of the argument during that package, but the arguments that it reduces congestion, the ulez extension is clearly nonsense. Extension is clearly nonsense. Its the idea that it helps air quality just doesnt hold. This quality just doesnt hold. This is a tax on the oldest, the poorest , the self employed. Its poorest, the self employed. Its the most iniquitous tax ive seen in my lifetime, and i cannot support that law breaking. But i cant wait to see ulez scrapped in a minute. It isnt just coming home. Its come home. Did you know we just won the world cup at football . In a minute , ill tell you radio. On the back of the banking route i weve led the way as the channel for dont kill cash. And yes, weve had some very, very warm words coming from the chancellor, the city minister. But whats the reality of us being able to take out and deposit cash . Well, today it was treasury questions and david davis made this point. Ray davis, the minister, just told my honourable friend that hes going to underwrite the statutory right to access the cash. But 6000 Bank Branches will by the end of will have closed by the end of the year, leaving 4000 in the year, leaving only 4000 in place. 15,000 atms have closed in last five years. How is in the last five years. How is he going to make sure this actually rather than actually happens rather than just an empty promise . Just an empty promise . Minister, the fca have significant sanctions in respect of the closure of atms that would leave those communities without the right of free access to cash. To cash. In terms of the closure of Bank Branches, as we are seeing a very significant change. And i hope my honourable friend would respect the fact that technology is changing , respect the fact that technology is changing, consumer patterns are. During the recess, are changing. During the recess, i had the privilege of visiting the Excellent Community banking hub in brixham. I think thats a brilliant opportunity. There brilliant opportunity. There should be more than 100 on their way and its my objective to. Im joined by professor well, im joined by professor daniel hodson, former deputy ceo, and for financial director of nationwide. And daniel, those of nationwide. And daniel, those just sheer numbers, but david davis put out there in the house of commons today since 2015, i mean, not long ago there were by the end of 2023 be 6000 Bank Closures and only 4000 remaining open. Its frightening. Its frightening. And its one of those things which i suppose is a feature of the times , but its a feature of the times, but its one which i think can be taken slowly and carefully. Its quite interesting. My former employer, the nationwide , actually arent the nationwide, actually arent closing branches. Theyre keeping them open for another three years at least to see how it goes. And i think thats the right thing to do for a couple of reasons. One, because its clear that people like cash. A lot people its very lot of people use it. Its very important but also important issue. But also strangely enough, something which found. I was a director which i found. I was a director of the organisation that actually you found out what was going on in the market. We used to spend a or two a week to spend a day or two a week going around branches , talking going around branches, talking to very bright people, to people, very bright people, good absolutely. Good intel, good, absolutely. And the trouble is the banks have all become too diversified. Now theyre they they have too many things on their plate and theyre not really concerned waiting particular on waiting on what particular on the side, on what the the retail side, on what the customers now the minister customers want. Now the minister made point, andrew made a good point, andrew griffith, the hub concept. Griffith, about the hub concept. The idea that in one yes. The idea that in one building all the banks and building all the banks and building be Building Societies could be represented. Yes. And you could put out cash, do put in cash, take out cash, do transfers, whatever it is. Yeah. And yet, of the 77 hubs that have proposed , only seven have been proposed, only seven are open. Only seven are open, which says to me that actually the big clearing banks arent interested. Interested. Im afraid theyre not. Theyve got lots of things they want to do and its something that people like you can actually do something about. I think the issue which is lurking behind this is the use of cash and whether or not we ought to be able to use cash at all times in every place where we go to buy. Now now were in a world where digital things are taking over an and i suspect i know theres a difference views about it that a retail digital pound will come a central bank Digital Currency theyre employing people to work on it they are it will come i hope and pray that it will be limited in terms of its use, but it will be useful for, on the one hand, for people who arent banked at the moment, who arent banked at the moment, who might have the opportunity to as alternative. To use it as an alternative. Think government can i think government can control and control everything we do, and thats. Thats true exactly. And thats one of the other sides of it. Of course, one of the things think, for the things if you think, for instance, buy, say, a instance, when you buy, say, a few gallons of petrol, you pay an awful lot of tax to the government. Now youre not government. Now if youre not buying petrol, does the buying petrol, how does the government well, government get the tax . Well, itll impose so itll probably impose a toll. So when in your car, youll when you get in your car, youll be youll taxed in effect, be youll get taxed in effect, but for the number but digitally for the number of miles done. Now, how are miles youve done. Now, how are they do that . Think of they going to do that . Think of that in terms of theyll put a block, theyll put a black box in the car theyll the in the car or theyll take the money automatically. Stop us going to theyll stop us going to marbella used up marbella because weve used up our to fight our carbon. Im going to fight this blooming like this like blooming crazy, like blooming talking of blooming crazy. And talking of banks, reported the ft banks, this reported the ft today. Investor nation into today. The Investor Nation into what happened between me and natwest and coutts. Apparently natwest and coutts. Apparently travis smith , the City Law Firm travis smith, the City Law Firm who should have reported by the 8th of september now will not report for another couple of weeks. Seems to me that with the farage row what they really want to make sure is that alison rose leaves with her £11 million and sir Howard Davies sees out his term the end may. Term till the end of may. Well, ill i think thats very interesting to one very interesting and to me, one of the issues , nigel, is how of the key issues, nigel, is how much did the board and Howard Davies know . Davies know . Well, i have put in a subject access request to natwest, which should have come back within 30 days, because days, ive been told, because its wont come back its complex, it wont come back to the end of october. I cannot believe having worked chairman a chief worked with chairman as a chief executive, that they werent absolutely that in of absolutely like that in terms of what here and what was going on here and whether comes out not. Whether that comes out or not. And told a lot of staff and im told that a lot of staff will actually be kept out from the public report remains to be seen. But it a shame seen. But it its a shame because as my understanding was, it at end this week it was due at the end this week at heaven knows when its at and heaven knows when its going now. Theyve going to be now. No theyve kicked it the long grass, kicked it into the long grass, into the long grass. Daniel hodson always great you join us lets hope you come and join us lets hope hodgsons wrong and we get hodgsons wrong and we dont get that central digital that central bank Digital Currency football the women currency now football the women got through and lost in the final of world cup. It was final of the world cup. It was 1966, the last time that our mens Football Team was in the World Cup Final and won. But something that happened last week that hasnt having a lot of coverage, maybe will as the coverage, but maybe will as the years go by, is the concept of walking football. Now, paul carr is the founder and president of the federation of International Walking football associations. Walking football associations. Pauli walking football associations. Paul, i got to tell you , until paul, i got to tell you, until about 18 months ago, i didnt know anything about walking football. But im beginning to understand a lot of people of , understand a lot of people of, shall we say, mature years are taking part in walking football for the uninitiated, in a couple of seconds, tell us what it is. Of seconds, tell us what it is. Thank you, nigel. Yes it was invented in chesterfield 12 years ago, so its still a very young sport. Theres now 200,000 people playing it in england alone , and its played in 70 alone, and its played in 70 countries around the world. So basically its a significant variation of football. The two key differences are its aimed at the older generations and its non contact and youre not allowed to run, which is sometimes quite difficult for the older generation who are playing football and is it a competitive sport . Is it a genuine competitive sport . Sport . It is. We had 19 nations, Saint Georges park, which is obviously the home of english football for 26 teams. We had over 50 group and over 60 group, and england won both. And it was and england won both. And it was it was fantastic tournament we were playing on the sir alf ramsey pitch, which was very apt given that he was the manager of the 66 team and all the players were brilliant and we won against france in one final and we beat the Czech Republic in the other final. But everybody really enjoyed themselves and the england teams obviously are playing at this level. The majority of people playing, walking football just do it for fun and fitness and friendship. So we are the world cup winners of walking football for the over 50s and over 60s correct . Correct . Yes, we are. And were going to be doing a world cup for the over 70s probably next year. So we might get another one. Wow. I think its amazing. And you say it, paul, there are 200,000 active participants of walking football in this country. Is this the next big growth sport for those of more mature years . I think it is, and its really bigger than netball. Its probably bigger than a hockey. So its a its a bit of a secret because as you say, it hasnt had much Media Exposure. Its purely amateur at the moment. So thats one of the reasons, um , we would love to reasons, um, we would love to get more Media Exposure and thank having us on thank you for having us on because weve been in some of the newspapers, but weve got all the, all the actions on, on the channel recast. So the streaming channel recast. So people can go and watch it. And it is entertaining. It might be a bunch of old guys running around around. Around or walking around. Hopefully. Hopefully. And if someones caught running, what will the ref do . Running, what will the ref do . Theyre going to get a free kick. And if they do three times theyll get sin bin for three minutes, right . Well, paul carr, i have to say , you are the pioneer of a say, you are the pioneer of a sport. And any sport that has sport. And any sport that has 200,000 active participant ints is growing and has just won the world cup is very worthy, i think of being on gb news and thank you for joining think of being on gb news and thank you forjoining us and thank you for joining us and enlightening us and many, many congratulate us. Well, there we are. We want a world cup at are. We want a world cup at football. How about that . Had you ever heard of walking football before . I bet many of you actually , we hadnt. So you actually, we hadnt. So Birmingham City council is, believe it or not, the biggest council with the biggest budget. Not just in the uk, but in the whole of europe. And today it effectively went bankrupt. What does that mean . The people of birmingham and other implications for other councils around the country, bearing in mind that just in the last year or so, thurrock and croydon went bust too. All of that in just a well, if Birmingham City council is effectively bankrupt, we need to find out the reasons why. And i wonder i just wonder what the reaction to all of this has been today. Perhaps one of incredulity. I dont know. Will incredulity. I dont know. Will hollis is our gb News Reporter who is there on the spot. Will, whats going on and what are people saying . People saying . Yes. Well, it was here today earlier that Birmingham City council declared the s 1 one for not this. And essentially, nigel, what that is, is the equivalent of a council waving a white flag and saying that our ship financially is sinking. Theyre calling on the government to help support the council as it cant quite balance its books. Now, balance its books. Now, ultimately, what this relates to is a massive £760 million black hole in the finances of Birmingham City council. A labour run council, some of it is because of cost applications to do with its it system. That has meant that around £100 million of extra money has to be put towards that. But the main reason that this council is in so much debt relates to a 2012 ruling by the Supreme Court. Now, essentially what that is , now, essentially what that is, is an equal pay claim. It means is an equal pay claim. It means that there was a problem with payments to men that werent being given to women specifically around bonuses in jobs at the council that were traditionally male dominated industries. Traditionally male dominated industries. For traditionally male dominated industries. For example, traditionally male dominated industries. For example, bin men, whereas maybe teaching assistants who are part of a traditionally dominated female in industry werent given the same opportunities. Now that bill has really run up to the tune of around £650 million, and the council today is saying that they cant afford to pay for it, what that means is that they are going to continue paying for paying going to continue paying for paying for their statutory obugafions paying for their statutory obligations as adult health and social care, Child Services and education. However, things that are deemed to be Non Essential Services for example, cultural events will now be stripped away and thats s1 one for order means that they will be prevented from spending money on that kind of thing. Now, i was in birmingham all day and weve been hearing from the people of the city and their reaction to the city and their reaction to the council effectively filing for bankruptcy. For bankruptcy. Just a shock. Its just its just a shock. Its just very surprising. Its all very surprising. Its just all down to the management, i believe. Anyway. So im quite shocked to hear this, knowing how council tax they take, how many council tax they take, amount of property they own in birmingham is one of the largest city council in europe. And i dont know , im just city council in europe. Arii i dont know , im just city council in europe. Ari heard t know , im just city council in europe. Ari heard this, w , im just city council in europe. Ari heard this, im im just city council in europe. Ari heard this, im 50] just surprised. Well, im very you know, im concerned naturally for the residents of birmingham and also people who are i mean, theyre suffering financially at the moment. And im not surprised. Moment. And im not surprised. And but after the Commonwealth Games and we were promised all that money and its going to be great for the city, you know , great for the city, you know, whats happened. But i understand the reason why because of the pay demands. Because of the pay demands. Itsjust because of the pay demands. Its just the way it is. And birmingham, isnt it. Now the labour run council has said that this is necessary for it to get for it to get its Financial Affairs in order. But theres been a loud reaction from the conservative group here in birmingham saying that this is embarrassing for the city. Remember, it was only a year ago that the next ten years were described as a golden decade, particularly around the highlight that the Commonwealth Games brought to the west midlands. Now, of course, those services are going to be slashed and it appears that a really tough time is coming for the people of Birmingham City. People of Birmingham City. Yeah, i mean, well, i wonder with this equalities legislation if birmingham is in such a glue pot , if birmingham is in such a glue pot, i if birmingham is in such a glue pot , i wonder if birmingham is in such a glue pot, i wonder what the implications might be for other councils around the country. And thats not something you can answer. But im very, very thoughtful on it. But i do note, will, that one thing that Birmingham City council have been very good at is choosing what they believe to be appropriate at street names for new developments such as equality , road diversity , grove, equality, road diversity, grove, destiny road, inspire avenue , destiny road, inspire avenue, respect way and human city. Close is this perhaps a politically correct council that finds itself at odds with many of their electors and at odds with the way theyve treated women . Yes well, Birmingham City, as one of the most ethnically diverse cities in the country, is very proud of that diversity. And it proud of that diversity. And it has been, as you say , has been, as you say, introducing all sorts of things that might emphasise this, that. So i think equality in this sense is something that the council is striving for. But in particular to the pay claims and the bonuses were specifically for male dominated industries. You wont necessarily see this in other councils because it seems to be a decision that was made by Birmingham City council to offer these bonuses in this way. The Supreme Court ruled and way. The Supreme Court ruled and ordered for the council to make these payments. But the cost is these payments. But the cost is really spiralling out of control, which is why we see this as 114 order today. And its actually going up every single month , nigel, by £14 single month, nigel, by £14 million that the council is going to have to pay back, adding to the tremendous amount that it already has, three quarters of £1 billion. Will this extra ordinary stuff. Thank you for giving us that live report outside the town hall in birmingham. Isnt town hall in birmingham. Isnt devolution a funny old thing . Devolution a funny old thing . Youve got a labour run birmingham council, a conservative mayor. Its all a mess now. We began the programme talking. I think, with some passion about the energy bill which has been before the house of commons today. Hundreds of amendments, but whittled down, i believe, to far fewer votes. Well, who better . Who better than a man who was arrived here . Hot foot . I would say out of breath. But hes far too cool to ever appear to be out of breath. Its not really his style, but of course, the former energy minister, jacob, briefed us what has been going on. Really odd. Has been going on. Really odd. You know, the house of commons comes back, term begins is a very important piece of legislation often and almost nothing in terms in terms of pubuc nothing in terms in terms of public debate and we were given three hours in which to debate it, 174 pages of amendments. Yes. So it was squeezed into the smallest amount of time. The government put on two very routine statements to take the Time Available down. And i was, as you point out, energy secretary, albeit very briefly, whilst i was i was trying to defang this bill. I knew it was a bad bill when it was my responsible committee, but i wasnt there long enough to be able stop it. What it does is able to stop it. What it does is it charges on people. Its £20 billion potentially for Carbon Capture sets up capture and storage. It sets up other ways to charge people and it gives the government the power to set a criminal offence with a maximum of one year in prison. If you get your energy prison. If you get your Energy Rating certificate wrong, how can this be happening in our country in a conservative government . It and whats government . It and whats particularly frustrating is that post oxbridge it seemed the noises coming out from downing street understood that this zealotry about net zero didnt win votes and wasnt going to be good for the economy. And yet here we are two days in. We have ploughed on with this dreadful piece of legislation. Astonishing. I came. I hotfooted it to get here on time. I didnt i didnt wait for the result of the third reading vote youve given us. But very few will have voted against. Youve given us a little snippet of whats to come in the next hour with jacob. How is this happening in our country . Dont believe in country . Why dont we believe in liberty anymore . Well, the one good maybe is good thing is maybe tomorrow is another sunshine on another 12 hours of sunshine on the temperatures rising. Boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello again. As we go through hello again. As we go through the next 24 hours, some of us will have a bit of low cloud and fog overnight. But then its the return of the hot sunshine tomorrow, albeit with the chance of a few showers looking at the big picture you see high big picture and you can see High Pressure dominating the weather across are going across the uk. But we are going to something of an easterly to have something of an easterly wind pushing its way and on wind pushing its way in and on that easterly, were going to drag low cloud, some sea drag in some low cloud, some sea fog from the north sea, fog in from the north sea, affecting parts of affecting eastern parts of england Eastern England and also eastern scotland where likely to scotland, where were likely to see bit of drizzly rain see a little bit of drizzly rain overnight elsewhere further south skies, south and west, clear skies, a few pockets of mist and fog, though, temperatures though, and temperatures not dropping amount. Some dropping a huge amount. Some places staying above celsius. Places staying above 20 celsius. Tonight, tropical night for tonight, a tropical night for some, but a difficult night for sleeping. Start. Then sleeping. A cloudy start. Then down the eastern side of the uk on wednesday. But that low cloud, that murk is going to quite quickly back towards quite quickly burn back towards the. For most of us, i say the coast. For most of us, i say for most because eastern for most because across eastern parts were likely parts of scotland, were likely to on to some of that low to hold on to some of that low cloud. Otherwise, lots of sunshine but perhaps sunshine around, but perhaps a bit for some, bit cloudier for some, particularly across parts of northern at northern ireland. Look at those temperatures, though, a little bit today , likely to bit higher than today, likely to see highs around 32 or 33 celsius into thursday. And celsius into thursday. And theres the chance of some heavy thundery showers making their way northwards up the western side uk. More central and side of the uk. More central and eastern parts of the country are likely stay dry and sunny and likely to stay dry and sunny and temperatures are going to be similar to tomorrow. 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