Were killed during the hamas terror attack on israel. Another terror attack on israel. Another five remain missing. And it five remain missing. And it comes after 85 year old israeli hostages released by hamas last night described the hell of being taken into a spider web of tunnels underneath gaza. Yakov tunnels underneath gaza. Yakov also said she was treated well and was seen by a doctor during her ordeal. Hamas says she was returned along with another israeli woman, nurit cooper on humanity. Darian grounds their humanity. Darian grounds their husbands , though, are still husbands, though, are still being held as hostages. Yakovs being held as hostages. Yakovs daughter, sharon , whos a daughter, sharon, whos a british citizen, tried slated her mothers description of how the abduction happened. The abduction happened. A swarm of people came through the fence. Through the fence. The defence costs 2. 5 billion shekels and it didnt help even a little bit. My shekels and it didnt help even a little bit. My mom is saying that she was taken on the back of a motorbike when she first arrived. They told them that they are muslims and theyre not going to hurt them and that they share. They ate the same food that their. The hamas was eating i well, a news here at home, the cap on bankers bonuses is set to be scrapped cut currently rules limit most bonuses to the 100 of salary that they receive if theyre an employee of a bank or a building society. A financial regulator says the move will make the uk a more attractive Financial Hub post brexit , but the decision is post brexit, but the decision is being criticised with trade unions. Council boss paul novak, calling it obscene and an insult to working people. Youre with gb news across the uk on tv , in gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news this is britains news channel. News channel. Hello and welcome to headliners. Hello and welcome to headliners. Im simon evans joining me tonight to have a jolly encounter with wednesdays newspapers , we have two fellow newspapers, we have two fellow goldsmiths, leo kearse and josh howie. Evening, gentlemen. Howie. Good evening, gentlemen. Are you well . Yeah. Excellent. Full colour, muted. This is going to be the tone youre going to be the tone youre going to be the tone youre going to adopt throughout the evening. No, im going full colour. No, im going full colour. Youre actually in are you . Youre actually in the news a little bit later on. Its exciting, but we are making news ourselves. Dont become the news ourselves. Dont become the story. Its end to end estate, remember . So lets have a quick peek at wednesdays front pages. The daily mail kick us off. Anger as un boss attacks israel over gaza. Crisis and a released hostage there who is also on the front cover of the guardian un calls for immediate ceasefire to end epic suffering in gaza. We have the Financial Times un chief denounces clear violation of International Law in gaza conflict and unusually un readable headline on the feet i news un chief warns of violations in gaza provoking fury from israel the metro brit cargo ship sinks in collision theyve gone off piste and the daily star even further off piste red bugs under the bed. Well those were your front pages. So we will kick off with the guardian , josh, i think daily guardian, josh, i think daily mail. Sorry skipped ahead. The daily mail. Mail. Sorry skipped ahead. The daily mail. Leo so mail. Sorry skipped ahead. The daily mail. Leo so yes, theres daily mail. Leo so yes, theres angen daily mail. Leo so yes, theres anger. Is the United Nations boss attacks israel over the gaza crisis and he says Antonio Guterres says the hamas raid didnt happen in a vacuum because theres been ongoing conflict between israel and palestine pretty much since since day dot. I mean, going back to pre roman times , i back to pre roman times, i believe, you know, if we want to take it back to then accept that the palestinians werent there. Yeah, the palestinians werent there. Mean , its that there. I mean, its weird that all the left of seized all the woke left sort of seized on the on the on sort of muslims as the victims when islam islam is the major colonising force across the arab world. That is true. Absolutely. Thats only sort of what 600 or 650. Yeah. 600 ad but it is i mean, it is a valid point. You kind of go, where do you start the clock ticking . I suppose if you go back far enough. These were tribes names. Tribes without names. Prehistorical think prehistorical i think the birthplace of civilisation. Prehistorical i think the biriwell,e of civilisation. Prehistorical i think the biriwell, the civilisation. Prehistorical i think the biriwell, the only sation. Prehistorical i think the biriwell, the only we, n. Prehistorical i think the biriwell, the only we, the only well, the only we, the only National Country with laws with its own currency, with a king. Right. The only sovereign state was israel. Everything since then has been controlled by the romans, everything since then has bee syriansilled by the romans, everything since then has beesyrians and by the romans, everything since then has bee syrians and various romans, everything since then has bee syrians and various other1s, the syrians and various other naļ¬ons up the syrians and various other nations up the ottoman nations as up until the ottoman empire, until the british took it over as british mandate it over as the british mandate of palestine. It over as the british mandate of iright. 1e. Right. Right. So never been another so theres never been another country israel, country there since israel, since kingdom judea. Since the kingdom of judea. Right. Right. You feel youre fairly so you feel youre fairly solid ground in of of solid ground in terms of sort of the constitutional history of antiquity. This is not a colony. This is not a colony. Thats the whole thing. This narrative of colonisation is the absolute opposite. Its the only case a colonised people case of a colonised people actually being able to take their land back. That said, in the i mean, that said, in the last sort of looked last 60 years, it sort of looked a bit more colonising, you know, its not been quite so quite so clear cut. So i mean, yeah, i mean theres been mean obviously theres been theres been wrongdoing, both sides there been tit sides and there have been tit for but at the end for tat battles. But at the end of day, theyve had various of the day, theyve had various wars, pretty horrific wars of the day, theyve had various wars, pyouv horrific wars of the day, theyve had various wars, pyouv horrifthears of the day, theyve had various wars, pyouv horrifthe countries where, you know, the countries round tried to wipe round about israel tried to wipe it you know, they to it out. You know, they said to the palestinians, know, get the palestinians, you know, get off going to off the land. Were going to wipe you can wipe them out. And then you can have land back and the wars have the land back and the wars that they lost. So why . I dont know. Seems well, i know. It just seems well, i mean, also mean, and theyre also complaining that, you know, theyre going against International Law with these airstrikes. I mean, fair enough. They of they are killing a lot of civilians. Looks horrific civilians. It looks horrific like dont trust that they like and i dont trust that they know i think, know where hamas are. I think, you not as its not you know, its not as its not as precision as the idf would have. You believe. But, i mean, its a war. Its not like when the uk bombed dresden, we were like, know , trying to like, you know, trying to minimise casualties. Minimise civilian casualties. The issue find still the issue that i find still confusing after two weeks, josh, is the extent to which everything is just playing out as it inevitably would do. And i just cannot fathom what could have been hamass motivation in taking hostages if they didnt intend to release them. Was it simply to provoke israel into committing crimes against humanity that would trigger a shift in in World Opinion . Is that the question is whether they are, you know, committing crimes against. Im not saying they have, but certainly to control to make that the narrative. No , my understanding is they no, my understanding is they had the backing of iran. Yeah who also back hezbollah in lebanon also have agents in syria. So the idea was to distract the idf down south and then they would attack from the north, which is what weve seen some bombings coming over from hezbollah. But of course, america was like, well, were going to send some warships here. Said to here. And it basically said to iran, if this happens, were going for you. So that put going for you. So that has put a stayed to that plan. Theres another actually stayed to that plan. Theres anothe meant actually stayed to that plan. Theres anothe meant to actually stayed to that plan. Theres anothe meant to be actually stayed to that plan. Theres anothe meant to be thatally wasnt meant to be that successful. So. Successful either. So. Well, i certainly would believe and witness reports seem to back up the idea that these were there. Was there was an overarching plan two weeks ago, but the individual raiding parties had quite distinct approaches to it. Some of them seem to have been unbelievable, bloodthirsty beyond imagination, others relative lovely, sort of orderly and disciplined in their activities. I dont know whether activities. I dont know whether that just is activities. I dont know whether thatjust is human nature, that just is human nature, whether thats just, you know, an artefact of their decentralised system, you know what i mean . Yeah. Well, not really. I mean, the things that ive been seeing coming out from the people theyve captured and from bodies , who were stopped is bodies who, who were stopped is that theyve, they had detailed plans. They had like the they were told. Now were seeing some of these interviews come out with people whove been with with people whove been captured alive. And they were basically told by their commanders that that to basically kill all the men and to kidnap the women and in some cases, to commit these most horrendous, horrendous. So lets theres a slightly different take on the guardian although the front pages are saying, its really saying, well, its really interesting, actually. I mean, look at both i mean, if you look at both papers they basically do papers here, they basically do look the same. Look pretty much the same. Theyve theyve theyve got the photo, theyve got got two theyve got the photo, theyve got different got two theyve got the photo, theyve got different ways got two theyve got the photo, theyve got different ways that got two theyve got the photo, theyve got different ways that they wo very different ways that they present that information across. And one here, its and in this one here, its basically anger is the daily mail anger is un boss attacks israel and of course the guardian has gone for un calls for immediate ceasefire end for immediate ceasefire to end epic suffering in gaza. Well, you know theres also epic you know what . Theres also epic suffering where not suffering in israel where not only are they dealing with this mass onslaught against the people, a huge people, but theres a huge exodus of people coming moving from south of country. From the south of the country. Theres a huge exodus moving down the north the down from the north of the country. Going back to this country. But going back to this original speech , and thats original speech, and thats partly my fault. Im sorry, leo, because i excited this because i so excited about this story excited is the story and not excited is the wrong word, but thats word wrong word, but thats the word that. Yeah built up all day and is this speech that was given at the un by the un general secretary is like the most inverted ridiculous warped when he talks about here hes talking about the land steadily devoured by settlements. Gaza, israel pulled out in 2005. They havent been there. There are no jews there. Their economy stifled there. Their economy stifled israel left them a multi Million Pound industry that they instantly destroyed and destroyed all these warehouses that were flowers. That were flowers. Gaza is not under the same authority as the west bank. The west bank has got is where the settlements are going on. But thatis settlements are going on. But that is under the same that is not under the same authority, so know authority, is it . So know completely can we completely separate. Yeah can we just at the times just quickly look at the times as on this section , which as well on this section, which is obviously a similar story, you have to hold this one is obviously a similar story, you so have to hold this one is obviously a similar story, you so timesa hold this one is obviously a similar story, you so times. Hold this one is obviously a similar story, you so times. Ohd this one is obviously a similar story, you so times. Oh yeah. One is obviously a similar story, you so times. Oh yeah. Soe up. So the times. Oh yeah. So the times has arrived to read it. My nightmare goes on. Cries freed oh no, not freed hostage. Oh no, its not that doing the that one. Were doing the rights. Drops trans inquiry rights. Body drops trans inquiry into leader. So the into its leader. So the equalities human rights equalities and human rights commission, which is the human rights body in the uk, it basically there was an internal investigation against baroness faulkner that was viewed to be a witch hunt. She faulkner that was viewed to be a witch hunt. She had faulkner that was viewed to be a witch hunt. She had the faulkner that was viewed to be a witch hunt. She had the wrong or what people would say is the wrong attitude to trans and that she just didnt. You know, didnt believe just didnt completely swallow all the trans ideology for the transubstantiation. Yeah, yeah. Transubstantiation. Yeah, yeah. So they had this this investigation into her but it was all prejudged. They leaked it to channel 4 news. So can we badenoch got wind of it. It was very worried that it wasnt going to be a fair investigation. And so she called investigation. And so she called in independent legal expert in an independent legal expert to handling to review the handling of the complaints. That complaints. And upon that happening, you happening, the hrc decided, you know were not going to do know what, were not going to do this investigation were this investigation because were not able to stitch not going to be able to stitch her was going to her up because it was going to be hunt. So they had be a witch hunt. So they had they just completely collapsed. Yeah they just completely collapsed. Ysuppose thats good news, i suppose thats good news, although it it does although it does it does indicate that there a kind of indicate that there is a kind of rottenness heart the rottenness at the heart of the state of denmark, it . State of denmark, doesnt it . Well, i mean, to see this play well, i mean, to see this play and see, as you say, play out and to see, as you say, a playing out in the a stitch up playing out in the real time, was quite an real time, it was quite an extraordinary thing because i think times people think a lot of the times people arent aware that stitch arent aware that these stitch ups, reports ups, you know, these reports come complaints come out, these complaints and whatnot. And happened whatnot. And here it happened and called and it was immediately called out. If kemi out. And because if Kemi Badenoch called badenoch hadnt and called for this then baroness this inquiry, then baroness falkner would be tarred for life as some sort of bigot when the reality was all she was saying was competing of was theres competing set of rights here. And she laid out that it says very clearly the that it says very clearly in the hrc women have the right to hrc that women have the right to safe spaces. Was all i do safe spaces. That was all i do remember. Cant what it was, i cant remember what it was, but there was one particular phrase i remember phrase which i remember thinking seemed that seemed perfectly reasonable that people screaming people were screaming and clutching about and clutching their pearls about and this was some time ago now, though, wasnt it . It was. It was about six months ago. They started something they started this or Something Like that. Seen all it to i havent seen all of it to remind myself. Ive also heard this, though. Can be bad not remains favourite to remains i think favourite to take from russias next leader. Yes i think they made a big mistake. I think they should have with her when they had have gone with her when they had the a year ago. The chance a year ago. But i think she would probably now as well. Probably have lost now as well. Maybe the thing. Maybe they did the right thing. Give it a fair crack. Exactly. Yeah finally, the star. Yeah. Well , red bugs under the bed. Well, red bugs under the bed. So weve had a lot of bed bug stories and the idea behind this story is that actually its all putins fault and its all propaganda and its all to sort of undermine the west. It. But of undermine the west. It. But the bugs are real or well , i the bugs are real or well, i dont know. Do they exist . Is there such a thing as bed bugs or is this bed bugs . Well, okay. Yeah, theyre horrible and its when you find its horrifying when you find them. The most horrifying them. Its the most horrifying moment of. You think was russian do you think it was russian agents possibly them there . I actually think i was living on road. I think on edgware road. So i think it was the there was was actually the there was a kebab shop, golf criminals who were living in the flat before me. Oh, really . They did it . Well, they probably working with russia hand in hand. Cant remember if i it i cant remember if i told it on here or somewhere else. No i think was there was another think it was there was another channel. Mention. When channel. I wont mention. When you of when i had you had the story of when i had scabies. Was 25 years ago. Scabies. This was 25 years ago. I like travelling overland scabies. This was 25 years ago. I likasia velling overland scabies. This was 25 years ago. I likasia and ng overland scabies. This was 25 years ago. I likasia and lg overland scabies. This was 25 years ago. I likasia and i goterland scabies. This was 25 years ago. I likasia and i got scabies. Scabies. This was 25 years ago. I didntiasia and i got scabies. Scabies. This was 25 years ago. I didnt knowand i got scabies. Scabies. This was 25 years ago. I didnt know what got scabies. Scabies. This was 25 years ago. I didnt know what got scii ies. Scabies. This was 25 years ago. I didnt know what got scii had i didnt know what i had. I had no medical services, just a lot of scratching. Yeah how did you get them . Is it like get rid of them . Is it like sheep you basically. Sheep dip . You yeah, basically. Yeah. Cover yeah. You have to cover your body of embrocation yeah. You have to cover your bodjit of embrocation yeah. You have to cover your bodjit burns of embrocation yeah. You have to cover your bodjit burns in f embrocation yeah. You have to cover your bodjit burns in allmbrocation yeah. You have to cover your bodjit burns in all the ocation yeah. You have to cover your bodjit burns in all the really| and it burns in all the really sensitive places, like incredibly, like, youre leaping around. Is that what youre doing . Walked in . Yeah, doing . When i walked in . Yeah, i almost it. Wouldnt mind almost miss it. I wouldnt mind it of living on the edge. It sort of living on the edge. Anyway, thats it for part one. Coming up, differing views on hamas continued and the hamas continued jihad and the real villains in the british gallery city bankers. Well see you in a couple of youre listening to gb news radio. And radio. And welcome back to headliners. Im simon evans , still here im simon evans, still here with leo aukus and josh howie. We have the telegraph now. Josh Emmanuel Macron i think little terrier that he is a little more aggressive in his stance. Yeah. West would fight hamas like it fights islamic state, says macron. And the idea is says macron. And the idea is that there was a sort of coalition but it would be slightly awkward because there were countries like qatar involved in that coalition. But and is where all and obviously qatar is where all the leaders are. Im going the hamas leaders are. Im going to try saying hamas, like the israelis. So hamas. And israelis. So hamas, hamas. And but but hes right in that this isnt just about israel and but but hes right in that this isntjust about israel and gaza isnt just about israel and gaza and hamas. Its larger than that. Its about islamic fundamentalism. And his country, fundamentalism. And his country, france, that has suffered arguably as much as any country in the west. And is a huge problem. And some something that needs to be tackled head on. Now, this is something i should probably have researched beforehand. I genuinely dont know. But obviously france is a colonial past is algeria. Algeria is the big one. Algeria is the big one. Yeah. And they dont get mentioned very much when it comes to islamic fundamental. Obviously theres a theres an integration problem. Theres the banueue integration problem. Theres the banlieue and all that. You know, theres a of economic theres a lot of economic inequality, but i havent heard of that a of of that being a source of potential jihad behaviour. Yeah. No no, i mean its a slightly different i assume it is, but i wonder if its, if theyre even more religious in france than they would be if they were back in algeria. Yeah. It it may not right. Yeah. It it may not cause them the same problems is what possibly in what im thinking, possibly in the we as soon the same way that we saw as soon as britain kind of you as britain had any kind of you know, stand with israel immediately. The streets of london are full people not full with people who do not stand israel. Stand with israel. Well, they are having these massive over there as massive protests over there as well. Also the well. And theyre also the French Police are much better at deaung French Police are much better at dealing not going allow certainly not going to allow someone be hamas. Someone to be hamas. Is pretty sound on macron is pretty sound on this stuff, isnt he . Seems this stuff, isnt he . He seems to be. Well, he says he says a lot all european lot of things. Like all european leaders, very tough and leaders, he talks very tough and does absolutely nothing about the weve the problem. So weve still weve completely open weve still got completely open borders, porous borders. Borders, very porous borders. And also, anybody come in, and also, anybody can come in, claim and were seeing, claim asylum. And were seeing, you attack a belgium you know, the attack a belgium attacker was is was an asylum seeken attacker was is was an asylum seeker. And weve seen you know so the Manchester Arena bomber he was hed been rescued from libya by the but sorry to interrupt what hes talking aboutis interrupt what hes talking about is a coalition of forces rather than a coalition of intent to tighten up the borders. Hes actually talking about fighting. I mean, this is something thats a fighting and weve talked about the un sending peacekeepers , troops, sending in peacekeepers, troops, and think, a and that, i think, remains a controversial and probably controversial idea and probably not, effective. Not, you know, very effective. But coalition but a coalition like an Aggressive Coalition of fighters to into gaza, is that is that to go into gaza, is that is that something think . Well, i think its to be i mean, this its going to be i mean, this urban fighting that theyd be theyd like did in theyd be doing like they did in mosul, which was the coalition to eradicate isis. Mean, to eradicate isis. I mean, thats its very its very bad for the civilian population. For the civilian population. Its also very bad for the for the troops. You lose a lot more troops than you do with i mean, israels airstrikes arent you know, no israelis are putting themselves doing. Thats themselves at risk doing. Thats always calculation, isnt themselves at risk doing. Thats alvicivilian calculation, isnt themselves at risk doing. Thats alvicivilian stand ation, isnt themselves at risk doing. Thats alvicivilian stand in on, isnt themselves at risk doing. Thats alvicivilian stand in for isnt it . Civilian stand in for anyway. Male now, leo keir starmer was pro israel stance. Well, following on in what weve just said, the least popular stance with labour councillors since theresa mays power stance. So heres the top labour mps face councillor mutinies in their constituencies amid growing party revolt over Keir Starmers middle east stance in wake of hamas attacks. So yeah, wake of hamas attacks. So yeah, most civilised people were appalled by the hamas attacks, but these are labour mps and labour councillors and theyre not as appalled. So keir starmer not as appalled. So keir starmer appeared on lbc and he, you know, people interpreted his remarks as saying that he backed israels right to besiege gaza, cutting off supplies of electricity, food, fuel and water following the terror attacks. A lot of people, 37 attacks. So a lot of people, 37 labour mps, signed a parliamentary motion expressing their deep alarm. Um, so just to their deep alarm. Um, so just to be totally cynical about it and just put it out there , are they just put it out there, are they thinking about their constituencies which are majority muslim . Well, this, this is the thing. I mean, the muslim vote replaced the sort of white class vote a White Working Class vote in a lot labour constituencies lot of labour constituencies that are sort of post industrial in the north in places like that. And 85 of british muslims voted for voted labour under jeremy corbyn, which is a huge i mean, thats just an insane swing to one party. I dont know if its the same under other leaders, but you have to assume starmer, you know, if he has a reputation for anything, it is for sniffing the wind, right . And attempting to, you know, play and attempting to, you know, play the percentages. Well, hes got to starmer has got to appeal to the middle. Hes got to appeal to daily mail readers, as well as guardian readers, which i think is what hes doing. So i dont hes as so i dont think hes as dependent the muslim vote. Dependent on the muslim vote. No. I think that actually no. And i think that actually this bit of a godsend for this is a bit of a godsend for him youre getting out him because youre getting out a bunch cranks who they need to bunch of cranks who they need to get get out. People get out of to get out. People like myself who have to vote for seven mean . Seven councillors, you mean . Yeah. Councillors. Yeah. These 37 councillors. Youve 37 mps, but youve youve got 37 mps, but youve also the councillors , also got the councillors, theyve identified theyve just identified themselves, gone. These themselves, theyve gone. These are the people who to be are the people who need to be out the labour party. In the out of the labour party. In the next have zoe watts next section you have zoe watts named sultana. She put up named zara sultana. She put up a tweet five days ago saying israel killed 500 people in a hospital. Its like and she still left it up, even though it wasnt israel. There wasnt 500 wasnt israel. There wasnt 500 people died wasnt people who died and there wasnt a hit. And shes still a hospital hit. And shes still got that up days later. Got that up five days later. The labour party i would say the labour party i remember from university i remember from my University Student days, the student politics days, the labour pro Palestinian Labour Party was pro palestinian in the in the mid 80s, you know, and theres been a lot and obviously theres been a lot of passed under the of water has passed under the bndge of water has passed under the bridge as if bridge then. But its not as if it purely corbynite it was a purely corbynite tendency or indeed a pure demographic in the north demographic shift in the north of england. It is it is generally speaking, it has been the labour party. Yeah, well, its a left. Its a leftist position or a far left position that has sort of taken over where you had those dreadful the labour dreadful shots in the labour conference of just everybody with the palestinian flag. Its ridiculous. Ridiculous. Its metro now. Josh and i begin to think if we just let shamima back in in the first place, she probably gone again by now. But we are shamima begums citizenship removal was unlawful. Court of appeal told so this has obviously been going on for quite a while now, but the latest tactic is to say that she was a Trafficking Victim because it turns out the person who took her across the border. Yeah through i think was through turkey, i think was a canadian agent or sort of not not like a james bond agent, more like someone who probably was just like, passing information. Yeah, passing information. Is it Something Like statutory rape just because shes too. Because she was 15. Saying she so theyre saying she was a sex. Yeah. Sex trafficking. Sex. Yeah. Sex trafficking. I can see the point. I mean, i you know, its easy to be jocular about this, but i can see the argument that she was too young to make an informed decision. And some, however appalling that decision was, some latitude could be granted. And also citizenship is something that shouldnt be. And also, she was a problem made in britain. Yeah she was born in britain. Yeah she was born in britain. She was created in britain. So britain should should of should deal with it instead of trying some easy excuse trying to find some easy excuse like her off, putting like fobbing her off, putting her refugee camp somewhere. Her in a refugee camp somewhere. We to face up to the fact we need to face up to the fact that these these that weve got these these siloed cultures that are fermenting some pretty horrific views. But it has to be said also, 15 year old girls have been doing extraordinarily wacky things in the last few years, joining isis begins to look quite traditional. Just just a gap shes the one who gap year. Shes the one who shes the one who groomed her friends. She was the most of she was the most extreme of that. And sure if it was that. And im not sure if it was her, but i know definitely one of the parents. Remember of the parents. I remember seeing interviewed at the time goingfailed the local been failed by the local council. We the council. We failed by the government, by the police. They let it go and this stuff and let it go and all this stuff and then found of then they found footage of him at being like, to at a march being like, death to israel. Kill west and israel. Kill the west and whatever. Its like, mate, come on. On. Hes a labour mp down there. And news and finally some good news for city the city bosses. Seize the opportunity presented by opportunity as presented by brexit. Does. Brexit. If nobody else does. So yeah. Cap bankers yeah. So the cap on bankers bonuses scrapped next bonuses will be scrapped next week. If there are any bankers week. If there are any bankers staying up with with a bag of staying up with a with a bag of charlie. Basically this cap was charlie. Basically this cap was introduced in 2014 to deter bankers from the risky behaviour that caused the 2008 financial crisis. Yes, im not exactly sure how it would. I guess like if youre giving money reward for short term gain , then it can for short term gain, then it can set things up for long term. It encouraged a culture of gambling, playing gambling, essentially playing high didnt high risk because you didnt lose went high risk. But lose if you went high risk. But if you you big. Yeah, lose if you went high risk. But if you yeah. You big. Yeah, lose if you went high risk. But if you yeah. Yeah. Big. Yeah, lose if you went high risk. But if you yeah. Yeah. So big. Yeah, lose if you went high risk. But if you yeah. Yeah. So underļæ½ ah, lose if you went high risk. But if you yeah. Yeah. So under eu right. Yeah. Yeah. So under eu rules, this cap was was brought in, know, people found in, but you know, people found workarounds and they they basically the base basically increased the base salary and i dont know why governments feel the need to get involved, involved in voluntary arrangements. You know, if arrangements. You know, if a bank agrees to like pay this guy this much, if he does this, why is the government getting involved . Know, its involved . You know, if its a regulatory issue, change the regulations to stop it happening. You. It happening. I agree with you. It was all sorts of people was i think all sorts of people from and have always from left and right have always said it a very blunt said it was a very blunt instrument, if not an entirely inappropriate one. They obviously felt they needed to do something and they realise something and they did realise that under blair years, the that under the blair years, the blair and brown years, you know, all that all kinds of regulations that have after the have been brought in after the previous bad crash, which i think the 70s or think was in the 70s or something, know, something, you know, were gradually because gradually eased off because they were hinder smooth were found to hinder the smooth flow of which is what flow of trade, which is what these thats got back these things thats got us back into again into the same position again every they drop these safeguards so they drop these safeguards and then guess what and then suddenly guess what happens. Also, is happens. But also, this is terrible for the terrible optics for the government. Obviously government. This is obviously something that was that they tried bring in under our tried to bring in under our short term. Minister the Prime Minister last year , kwasi minister last year, kwasi kwarteng, was going to do it and then that didnt happen. So now this kind of seems to have just kind just happened in a cost kind of just happened in a cost of living crisis. And obviously, of living crisis. And obviously, like you said, though, theyre getting paid, their base rates have so theyre have gone up. So theyre actually because compensate actually because to compensate for bonuses, for those lack of bonuses, theyre already getting paid for those lack of bonuses, theynmoready getting paid for those lack of bonuses, theynmoready gnow1g paid for those lack of bonuses, theynmoready gnow theyre also loads more and now theyre also going to get the bonuses on top of like of the bankers bonuses, like the harry sketch, the Harry Enfield sketch, the bankers, the bonus, bankers, bankers, the bonus, the bankers, the the bank of bonus but the bank of Bonus Calculation you calculation was that you couldnt than calculation was that you coultimes than calculation was that you coultimes your than calculation was that you coultimes your base than calculation was that you coultimes your base salary than calculation was that you coultimes your base salary asan calculation was that you coultimes your base salary as a two times your base salary as a bonus, pretty bonus, which sounds Pretty Healthy , obviously. Healthy to me anyway, obviously. So they werent. So to compensate theyll compensate for that, theyll give your basic give theyll pay your basic salary is now 200 k or whatever and then now theyve removed that. Going that. Exactly. Its just going to i think we need to to go. But i think we need to recognise how much wealth bankers generate country bankers generate for the country and how much tax the country rakes these bankers. And rakes in from these bankers. And they could, you know, the financial could to financial industry could move to new frankfurt. New york or frankfurt. Absolutely so should, we absolutely so we should, we should grateful. And should be grateful. And i think this a move, this is this is a great move, relief that it didnt leave after brexit. I was seriously worried about that. All worried about that. Yeah, we all love bankers, but love to hate the bankers, but the is absolutely the truth is that is absolutely a everything. A for everything. But its also been huge but its also been a huge generator wealth generator of wealth for the bankers. True. Bankers. Yes, thats true. Then i. I work for the but then i. I work for the bankers. Oh, dear , oh dear. Bankers. Oh, dear, oh dear. People make money for themselves, know , it is themselves, you know, it is funny how much hatred the bankers. There was a banker who bankers. There was a banker who was at my daughters was a father at my daughters school. After i think it school. And after i think it might have been the brexit might have been after the brexit vote or something and something might have been after the brexit vote or so anyway. And something might have been after the brexit vote or so anyway. And something might have been after the brexit vote or so anyway. And everyoneg happened anyway. And everyone decided shorted happened anyway. And everyone decided or shorted happened anyway. And everyone decided or somethingshorted happened anyway. And everyone decided or something. 1orted happened anyway. And everyone decided or something. And d happened anyway. And everyone decided or something. And i the pound or something. And i mean, he was there was he was almost violent, you know, he was like people kids were like people were told kids were told that they couldnt speak to his kids no yeah. Yeah. It his kids. No way. Yeah. Yeah. It was it is weird sometimes how virulent it gets. At least he can pay for friends for his kids. Yeah, thats true. Yeah, thats true. Thats it. For part two. Coming break, we coming up after the break, we have donald trump on robben island. Workers island. We have british workers shivering work shivering all the way to work and for oxfam, does not and for oxfam, charity does not begin at home. Well see you youre listening to gb news radio. And radio. And welcome back to headunen so the telegraph now josh, typically malicious attempt to suggest that donald trump is not a martyr on a par with Nelson Mandela. Mandela. Yeah, donald trump compares himself to Nelson Mandela. This is doing a big 90 minute is him doing a big 90 minute address where he basically yeah, he basically said im you know, im like Nelson Mandela and i feel like he for me, hes more a gandhi figure. You know what i mean . Its like i think of him as antonio gramsci. Oh, really . As antonio gramsci. Oh, really . Yeah. Okay italian communist writing the diaries in his jail cells. Okay. Diaries in his jail cells. Okay. Set the agenda for the next hundred years. I think hes always a little bit tongue in cheek with these things. He said, if i have to be the mandela, you know, in order to be the political prisoner or whatever, it for whatever, then im doing it for a purpose. But he has definitely i mean, whether or not he believes it, i think he is starting to present that figure to a large part of his base. I mean, you know, if they if they pursue him in this manner for the next year, i think they can very easily. The only the only way doesnt match. Nelson way he doesnt match. Nelson mandela he hasnt mandela is that he hasnt endorsed violence. No. So he hasnt got a homicidal wife . Yeah. Yeah and a football team. Yeah. Yeah and a football team. Well, he is and he is. Well, i guess he is fighting against the apartheid towards rich. Yeah. Yeah. So rich people. Yeah. Yeah. So well i think people, you know, especially when the world is in such a state, people want a strong man leader , or at least a strong man leader, or at least somebody can up some a strong man leader, or at least someiand can up some a strong man leader, or at least someiand well, up some a strong man leader, or at least someiand well, i up some a strong man leader, or at least someiand well, i thinksome stairs and talk. Well, i think there some truth that. There is some truth to that. Although second term, although in his second term, after he may after four years away, he may not ideal person for not be the ideal person for that. But he to have that. But he seems to have convinced americans that convinced the americans that hes position than hes in a better position than i cant his name. The cant remember his name. The texan governor dos santos. Dos santos. Yeah, but florida, i do think also i do think people are noticing. I mean, i have this row every couple of days. It flares up on twitter. But the reality for all hype reality is, for all the hype about a madman he was, his about what a madman he was, his four years on the throne were extraordinay. Pretty placid. Extraordinay. Pretty placid. Yeah. Compared with what came before certainly compared to before and certainly compared to what weve endured since. The state but that was that the state protecting system im protecting the system im against because some of the stuff heard was stuff that we heard that he was trying implement that kind of trying to implement that kind of got thwarted nationally , got thwarted nationally, internationally and what do you think he was trying to implement that prevented doing that he was prevented from doing . Was just told some pretty . I was just told some pretty mad stuff. Im sorry if i would have done my research, but i remember there were people there were these cases. The were lots of these cases. The book that came out and there were of like his were lots of people like his defence who was defence secretary, who was just like, going do like, were not going to do that. No government best no Government Works best when you somebody in you know somebody, somebody in government something you know somebody, somebody in gowtheyznt something you know somebody, somebody in gowthey cant something you know somebody, somebody in gowthey cant anything. Nething and they cant do anything. Government it Government Works best when it does people can does nothing and the people can just with with running just get on with with running the country and generating the wealth was he wealth and overseas. He was he was great because he terrified everybody. Mean, everybody. Nobody would i mean, if russia had invaded ukraine, you would have been you know, putin would have been worried hed have been worried that hed have been turned rubble. Well, yeah. Turned to rubble. Well, yeah. Glass is the term glass, isnt it . Yeah. I think there is an element that. I do also element of that. But i do also think he genuinely was quite pacifist instincts. Pacifist in his instincts. I think who did think he was somebody who did not really believe in the military complex. Military industrial complex. I dont think he believed in permanent for war permanent peace. I dont think he believed that to that it was Americas Mission to continue to police world continue to police the world indefinitely. Very isolation. He indefinitely. Very isolation. He just to he wanted europol just wanted to he wanted europol pay just wanted to he wanted europol pay know, pay his own way. He you know, and laughed he and he was laughed at when he told germany that they needed to get their act together stop get their act together and stop relying energy. Relying on russian energy. I mean, saying everything mean, im not saying everything he did was wrong or disagree he did was wrong or i disagree with everything. By the way. By the way. Up, daily mail. Leo, next up, daily mail. Leo, i think take this one think you better take this one as is in danger getting as josh is in danger of getting as josh is in danger of getting a bit too close this story. As josh is in danger of getting a bit ijosh. Ose this story. As josh is in danger of getting a bit ijosh ise this story. As josh is in danger of getting a bit ijosh is in this story. As josh is in danger of getting a bit ijosh is in this s story. As josh is in danger of getting a bit ijosh is in this story. 1. As josh is in danger of getting a bit ijosh is in this story. So yeah, josh is in this story. So a celebrity agent clients a celebrity agent whose clients include katherine and jamie include Katherine Ryan and Jamie Demetriou apologises for naivety over social media posts about the hamas terror attack on israel. So this is kitty lange, israel. So this is kitty lange, whos the head of comedy at the Talent Agency united artists. Huge, huge agency. Yeah. Their huge, huge agency. Yeah. Their clients include james corden and keira knightley. Theyve got keira knightley. Theyve got some talented people to and basically shed been tweeting or retweeting some pretty horrific stuff following the hamas attacks. She said that the israelis and the people who support israel were excited to see the dead babies. She also see the dead babies. She also she also said that she was basically yeah, she was basically yeah, she was basically saying the dead beheaded babies were not real, like it was fake stuff. And then sorry. And then sorry. Yeah, and she also and yeah, and she also described israelis as as paramilitaries. So israeli civilians as paramilitary. She civilians as paramilitary. She said that was the thing she and it was interesting because she seemed to be referring to the people been taken as people whove been taken as hostages. Said it hostages. And she said it doesnt seem right to refer to settlers civilians. Perhaps settlers as civilians. Perhaps we a new term like we can use a new term like settler paramilitaries or something which elide smoothly over the very controversial, if not just downright wrong proposition that those people were settlers. Not at all. They theyre not settlers. Theyre in israel. Theyre not uncontested land by means. They were by any means. They were civilians , children, babies , civilians, children, babies, beheaded, children sexually abused to the point of breaking right into that kind of we should probably see what happened to her. Yes, go ahead. Yeah so, yeah. So basically, you know, one of a comedian from the underground underground whatsapp hate group, the allah akbar group, spotted these sent them to josh, whos these sent them to josh, whos the attack dog . And josh josh the attack dog . And josh josh posted them. Then lee kearns, whos just a crazy man oscar nominated for a terrible film, then shared it and this whole pile on started. Its great seeing these pylons happen to walk people now they used to just hand to guys like me and basically as soon as this pile on started she deleted her twitter account. You could almost the wine almost hear the white wine getting the cat getting knocked over and the cat litter, food going litter, you know, cat food going flying she she deleted it. Flying. And she she deleted it. And then shes shes posted this this sort apology and this sort of lame apology and deleted it again. Please let me keep my job, please. Ive never told her again. Ive never told her again. No, that i actually no, its not that i actually want keep job. This want her to keep her job. This is weird this very is the weird this is very surreal. Never happened surreal. This has never happened before. Was last night. My before. I was last night. My night in my kitchen, night off. I was in my kitchen, got the message from someone saying, god, you believe saying, god, can you believe these i was like, these things . And i was like, oh, just going to tweet oh, im just going to tweet about then its all about this. And then its all kicked from here. She its kicked off from here. She its not because because , as not about because because, as you say, these kind of witch hunts on so against hunts have gone on so against people whove said women people whove said that women shouldnt should have their fair sports whatnot. So i dont sports and whatnot. So i dont its not about trying get its not about trying to get people fired, just to expose people fired, but just to expose the of these people the hypocrisy of these people and the that theyre and the stuff that theyre disseminating they disseminating and the fact they get. Yeah. But the get them fired. Yeah. But the fact they werent she fact that they werent she wasnt many wasnt called out. How many famous her and are famous people follow her and are seeing disgusting tweets seeing these disgusting tweets that shes putting out into the world called her on world and no one called her on it. Were up there for weeks it. They were up there for weeks and hugely powerful and shes hugely powerful or she was know and shes hugely powerful or she was today know and shes hugely powerful or she was today. Know about today. We should have a word. See if Katherine Ryan wants make Katherine Ryan wants to make a comment. Times have Katherine Ryan wants to make a con benevolent times have Katherine Ryan wants to make a con benevolent effects nes have Katherine Ryan wants to make a con benevolent effects ofs have Katherine Ryan wants to make a con benevolent effects of the ve the benevolent effects of the fuel crisis. Britains ditch working from home to cut heating bills. 1 in 5 workers in a survey said that free heating had encouraged them to commute to the office often. Now that the office more often. Now that doesnt mean that theyd that was the sole reason for them to do it. I mean, children do it. I mean, yes, my children are the boardroom at are asleep in the boardroom at the. But yeah, obviously the moment. But yeah, obviously its expensive. Its going to be theyre saying now that the heating bills are going to get more expensive again and theyre going make more profit. Going to make more profit. Not been an expensive its not been an expensive yet, think weve sort yet, has it . I think weve sort of had mean, thermostat or of had i mean, thermostat or whatever. But, you know, i havent felt the house. I havent felt the house. I havent thing where you havent had that thing where you walk in and like the house is warm you get angry. Know walk in and like the house is warnfeeling. U get angry. Know that feeling. But saying may but theyre saying it may well to that point again well get to that point again this year. You think people would have invented suits invented duvet suits or something i something by now . Because, i mean, its to be new mean, if its going to be a new trend, weve got to get trend, then weve got to get them. Just called them. Theyre just called puffer jackets. All have jackets. Simon we all have individually in our home an individually in our home now an electric blanket a sort electric blanket each a sort of yeah, in. You know, yeah, plug in. You know, unfortunately, they are plug in, which annoying. If youre which is annoying. So if youre going if you want to go going to move, if you want to go and make cup of tea, you have and make a cup of tea, you have to unplug it, take you with you to unplug it, take you with you to stand the to the kitchen, stand by the kettle. Yeah, kettle. And like share. Yeah, but no, theyre, theyre wonderful. Theres wonderful. You know, theres a number different of number of different sort of shapes of control number of different sort of shap them, of control number of different sort of shapthem, but of control number of different sort of shapthem, but i of control number of different sort of shapthem, but i findyf control number of different sort of shapthem, but i find them trol number of different sort of shapthem, but i find them very over them, but i find them very cosy. The thing that could ruin cosy. The thing that could ruin things this winter things for us this, this winter is were in the middle east because we stopped getting our hydrocarbons from russia. So qatar other countries and qatar and other countries and iran well start filling the iran as well start filling the gap. But, you know, obviously thats looking dicey and. Gov think well be fine. Oxfam in the crosshairs now, we love a bit of Charities Behaving badly. This is in the independent. Yeah. So oxfam workers are set to strike over pay as the Charity Staff rely on foodbanks to survive. I thought they were to survive. I thought they were volunteers. I thought so , but volunteers. I thought so, but apparently not. They get a survey of 150 oxfam workers found 8 used food banks. Found that 8 used food banks. 22 had not been able to pay their rent and 34 have had to choose between heating their homes and feeding their families. Some cant even afford child in haiti. This child prostitutes in haiti. This is really is really hitting the staff hard. And oxfam isnt even cheap now. It used to be, you know, itd famous, you know, know, itd be famous, you know, for going in, getting a cardigan for going in, getting a cardigan for ten. You in the for ten. P now, you go in the same cardigan, still same cardigan, its still second hand. Ā£25. Its second hand. Its like Ā£25. Its like and get this cheaper in primark. Theyre for the primark. Theyre going for the vintage are they . Vintage market now are they . I only use the books and music, mainly books now because music obviously free. I do like obviously is free. But i do like the oxfam bookshop. I got this from oxfam. Okay, but yeah, but they need to be. I nearly swore there , but they nearly swore there, but they should. They need to start a charity, a new charity, oxfam, oxfam, oxfam , oxfam, oxfam oxfam, oxfam, oxfam, oxfam squared or or oxfam 2. 0 for people who work at oxfam. People who work at oxfam. Yeah, it was the oxford Farming Charity originally, wasnt it . But i suppose shop farm or something, i dont know. But the. Was there a famine in oxford . Yeah yeah, it was terrible. Didnt hear about terrible. I didnt hear about that. 1234 yeah, really . You that. 1234 yeah, really . Do you remember it just before the peasants revolt . Yeah. No of course there wasnt. There was a famine in africa, and some oxford students. Proto wokeist. Oxford students. Proto wokeist. Anyway josh tinder news now, which you think doesnt affect you because youre a married dad, but actually, maybe it does. Yeah. This is really exciting. Tinders new feature lets friends rate your matches so you swipe left and right and all that and you can now send up to 15 friends and family and then they can approve your the people you kind of fancy or not. I love this idea so much because i got together with my wife like before all the social media thing happened. I always felt like id missed out on the whole dating thing, like just the logistics of it and how it all works and stuff. So this is a great if people could email great way if people could email me they youre at josh me if they if youre at josh howie at gb news. Uk, i will help you to choose because i want to get in on this action. You know what the funny thing is, though . This probably does replicate the experience you have your wife, have when you meet your wife, because dont because what people dont register always is register consciously, always is that theyre in of that when theyre in a group of people , they realise is people, they realise who is generally as generally regarded as attractive. Quite attractive. And its quite important psychologically. Okay, important psychologically. Okay, we tend to be interested in people that we notice. Everybody else is in. Sometimes were Strong Enough , confident enough, Strong Enough, confident enough, quirky we kind of quirky enough that we kind of 9 quirky enough that we kind of go, i know else seems to go, i know nobody else seems to like you, but i like you. But thats thats a romantic comedy notion. Thats a movie trope. The most social the truth is, in most social groupings we pick up, we kind of monitor the signals that were getting from everyone that our friends approve of this, like, possible partner. And on dating apps, you dont have that. So its actually kind of restored its actually kind of restored it experience you had. It to the experience you had. Yeah, technique yeah, and thats a technique in pickup. Yeah. So its pickup artistry. Yeah. So its called proof. So if you called social proof. So if you if you walk into a room and the beautiful woman on your arm , beautiful woman on on your arm, people be like, oh, people are going to be like, oh, he attractive is he must be attractive as is peacocking, obviously peacocking, which is obviously what been doing for that what youve been doing for that working. Working. Will you be doing , amelia so will you be doing, have been peacocking . The have you been peacocking . The audience peacock audience shes just been peacock peacocking. Everybody. Josh has been pigeon ing. Josh has been pigeon ing. Josh has been pigeon ing. Its part three. Done in our final quartile. Halloween controversies. Uber ambulances and emerging artworks in the amazon. Well see you welcome back to headliners for our final fourth quarter. We have the telegraph now. Leo and it is extraordinary how seriously americans take halloween. Yeah. So striking hollywood actors have been banned from dressing up as characters from blockbusters for halloween because this this union Actors Union Strike the sag aftra after yeah which sounds like sounds like some sort of militant group in south america or a potato and spinach dish at the local. Yeah. So dish at the local. Yeah. So theyve been on strike since july and these strikes can be devastating for hollywood. Theres a Writers Strike which so the people making the films didnt know how to crowbar in lgbtq propaganda or turn all the white characters into into black characters. It was really hurt. Their creative process. Yeah, their creative process. Yeah, but George Clooney is leading. But George Clooney is leading. Hes actually being quite magnanimous because he obviously makes a lot of money. And he said , look, ill forego my said, look, ill forego my money. You know, the rich people should forego some of the money so the poor people can get paid first. Is thats not first. Is that is thats not going help it, it . They going to help it, is it . They are striking, i understand it are striking, if i understand it correctly, same strike. Correctly, its the same strike. They are striking over some fairly changes that fairly fundamental changes that could them could be about to render them redundant and do redundant forever. And i do understand that like that existential threat, theyre a bit the aslef guys who bit like the aslef guys who realise trains dont need realise that trains dont need them anymore. Yeah, you know, trains are clinging on with their bit of leverage. Their last bit of leverage. Thats right. I mean , what do thats right. I mean, what do you think josh is . Feel a bit you think josh is . I feel a bit torn, generally speaking. You know, torn, generally speaking. You knoyeah, but they need, as you yeah, but they need, as you say, its an existential thing for them because. But i dont for them because. But i dont think actors are going to go anywhere. You need real people at the end of the day. But the fact that their images can be used a lot used after death, theres a lot of that be sorted of stuff that needs to be sorted out health care. Out and health care. And i mean, we feel i feel like we to draw lines in like we need to draw lines in the face up to the sand. We need to face up to where the future is. Is you know, before we get there. But i will say, six months ago, we were horrified, think, by were all horrified, i think, by the sudden in al art and the sudden surge in al art and the sudden surge in al art and the bot and then it the chat bot stuff and then it sort receded, isnt it . You sort of receded, isnt it . You sort of receded, isnt it . You sort i are. It sort of go, actually, i are. It always looks a bit like you always looks a bit like then you never like just a series of never get like just a series of iconic album covers. You know, better and better. But yeah , but the industry is but yeah, but the industry is still closed down even though the strike already the Writers Strike has already finished. I think this finished. I think in this particular halloween, particular case for halloween, they could sort of british they could use sort of british halloween people because theres like were not covered. Like us, were not covered. Yeah, go covered as yeah, they could go covered as us. Theyd as like us. Yeah. Or theyd go as like a dalek something. But i, i dalek or something. But i, i just want it to be over because just want it to be over because just strike came in, just before the strike came in, i first big acting job. I had my first big acting job. Oh. And weirdly, i called my agent united agents, and agent at united agents, and shes back them. Agent at united agents, and sheyoure back them. Agent at united agents, and sheyoure going ck them. Agent at united agents, and sheyoure going to them. Agent at united agents, and sheyoure going to regretn. Agent at united agents, and sheyoure going to regret it, youre going to regret it, guardian. Now josh, it seems theyve used the wrong kind of rock on rock. Yeah, thats good. Dwayne. The rock johnson wax statue to be redone after star criticised his its white skin and i think we have some images and its basically racist theyve theyve just absolutely whitened him up ive whitened him they have and also its made because hes got quite a sort of oh there we go particular look anyway thats thats hull and thats a bouncer in hull and theres the rock i mean he looks, looks like a nasty looks, he looks like a nasty piece of or white doesnt he. There is, there is an element about it. He looks kind of jolly and though hes and benign, even though hes huge hes normally himself. Huge when hes normally himself. Yeah, the waxwork version yeah, but the waxwork version looks like he really is just going to start something. Its because hes smiley, the real one, didnt actually one, smiling. I didnt actually know the rock was black. Like i didnt know that Meghan Markle was black until she i think hes hawaiian this year or Something Like that. Hes a half hawaiian and black. And half black. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Samoan. Anyway, samoan. Samoan. Theyll a spray. Theyll give it a spray. Yeah, well, but they said something really racist and the museum they want to museum said they didnt want to dark made dark tint because it made the face too erasing its face too hard and erasing its warm aspect. Yeah, that sounds pretty racist. Yeah. Scumbag news now, liam yeah. Scumbag news now, liam in the independent i think what upset me most here was the mention of the george eliot hospital. Yeah. So a man faked being stabbed to get a free lift home in an ambulance. You wouldnt get that in middlemarch . No yeah. I mean, im just, like, ordering a pizza and getting a lift off the delivery guy. But yeah, this guy, christian monreale , he guy, christian monreale, he dialled 999 claiming hed been knifed outside supermarket in knifed outside a supermarket in wannickshire. They rushed to wannickshire. So they rushed to see him but found him uninjured. See him but found him uninjured. And he told ambulance crews he dialled 999 because wanted dialled 999 because he wanted a lift but the ambulance lift home. But the ambulance doesnt home . No. It doesnt take you home . No. It takes hospital. But then takes you to hospital. But then he was stoned, right . They found loads marijuana. Yes. Loads of marijuana. Yes. They live next to the hospital. Phoned. Thats they phoned. Oh, yeah, thats a yeah. Mean, a good point. Yeah. I mean, maybe hes in the psych ward because. Yeah, he was first hospital. You hospital. Hes like, if you could. Put here now, hospital. Hes like, if you coulyou put here now, hospital. Hes like, if you coulyou just put here now, hospital. Hes like, if you coulyou just take here now, hospital. Hes like, if you coulyou just take me here now, hospital. Hes like, if you coulyou just take me back 1ow, hospital. Hes like, if you coulyou just take me back home can you just take me back home again they that. Again . They should do that. Thatd be way for the thatd be a great way for the nhs to earn a bit of extra cash. Uben on nhs to earn a bit of extra cash. Uber, on the way when uber, uber on the way out when theyre hospital, theyre leaving the hospital, theyre leaving the hospital, the they get the ambulances, when they get called out, theyre like, does anyone to prestbury . Anyone want to go to prestbury . Because just a thought because ive got just a thought then. Then he spat on a bloke right . Yeah. Then. Then he spat on a bloke right . Yeah. He spat on the ambulance crew flicked ambulance crew also flicked a cigarette, a lit cigarette at one of the guards at the at the hospital as well. When he was. Hospital as well. When he was. Hes a nasty piece of work , hes a nasty piece of work, isnt he . Yeah. But then again , isnt he . Yeah. But then again, you know, life is no doubt. You know, life is no doubt. Maris reefer madness is this marijuana . Yeah. Three whole buds of Cannabis Found on him. Its a lot stronger these days, isnt it . You can smell it on oxford. I wouldnt know. I wouldnt know. Im not like the old oxo telegraph now, josh and some of the original art you can the best original art you can find amazon. Find on amazon. Good. Ancient rock very good. Ancient rock carvings of human faces revealed in amazon after record drought. Theyre believed to be 2000 years old and they are the sort of oblong. And there we go. Of oblong. And there we go. Theyre pretty basic. Theyre pretty basic. Yeah. And they havent been seen. They found some of there was a drought about ten years ago and they some of them. But this is the first time these might have been seen for hundreds of sort of hundreds of years, sort of contemporary graffiti contemporary new york graffiti vibe. Vibe a little bit, yeah. Impressed by five people impressed by that. Ive got a tree in dumfries thats going to blow their even signed. Their mind. Its even signed. Yeah, its got a big heart for me. Big heart dies. Guys yeah, its got a big heart for me. Big heart dies. Guys love, me. Big heart dies. Guys love, you know , no square heads could you know, no square heads could be like aliens. Be like aliens. Those could have been the auens those could have been the aliens that were here. 2000. Yeah. Im just saying. Yeah. Final story well, yeah. Our final story for the evening. The for the evening. Leo is the daily have a story daily mail. They have a story which suggests well do anything daily mail. They have a story whlonnggests well do anything daily mail. They have a story whlong as|ests well do anything daily mail. They have a story whlong as its; well do anything daily mail. They have a story whlong as its avell do anything daily mail. They have a story whlong as its a simulation. Thing as long as its a simulation. So, an unofficial ryanair so, yeah, an unofficial ryanair simulator teenagers simulator created by teenagers in carried out in the metaverse has carried out its millionth journey with hundreds of users flying in the Virtual Service multiple times a day. So basically , this is day. So basically, this is created in roblox, which is some nerd nerds. Its like nerd thing for nerds. Its like a thing. And a computer thing. Yeah. And you can virtual worlds, can create these virtual worlds, sort of like my minesweeper or whatever its called. And so whatever its called. And so they, you know, some minecraft , they, you know, some minecraft, that one. Yeah. Some guys never spoken to. A woman created this simulator of a of a Ryanair Flight and its been hugely popular because going on a Ryanair Flight in a simulation is more pleasant than going is much more pleasant than going in real life. And also also you end up about as close to the place going you on place youre going as you do on ryanair. But theyve said theyve of theyve created the sense of being seats you being in cramped seats that you must physically must have to physically do that. Even metaverse, mustnt even in the metaverse, mustnt you . Cd tray slides you . I think the cd tray slides out of the computer right against it is against your knee. It is interesting, though, it, interesting, though, isnt it, that do in the that people will do in the metaverse that they metaverse things that they wouldnt to do if they were wouldnt want to do if they were in real life. They were considered to discomfort, considered to be a discomfort, a an irritating obstacle to get through in order to achieve something. But youd say, oh, i can simulate this , and suddenly can simulate this, and suddenly it becomes so bizarre. Well , he supposedly set up well, he supposedly he set up when he was 15 and the idea was that it allow people to that it would allow people to train because train other people because you invite people into your world and theres like real money that exchanges and whatnot. And theres like real money that echits|es and whatnot. And theres like real money that echits become and whatnot. And theres like real money that echits become andgotatnot. And theres like real money that echits become andgot fullt. But its become hes got full time employers, employees now. And one them is a 16 year and one of them is a 16 year old. And that she had old. And she said that she had to like ten days training to do like ten days training about air and this about air safety and all this other and other stuff. Amazing. And because they want ryanair because they want their ryanair system , as you say, to work system, as you say, to work better , i think i might set some better, i think i might set some up based on my daughter 19 spends all her spare cash on vinyl records, which are a ridiculous encumbrance that you dont need. Dont need. Now, i think kids really crave sort of analogue difficulties. Yeah. And also , if difficulties. Yeah. And also, if you backwards, you you play them backwards, you sometimes messages. Sometimes get devil messages. Yeah. Got the reefer yeah. If youve got the reefer madness behaviour, very dangerous to show is nearly oven dangerous to show is nearly over. Lets take another quick look at wednesdays front pages. Look at wednesdays front pages. We have daily mail anger as we have the daily mail anger as un boss attacks israel over gaza crisis. The guardian and un calls for immediate ceasefire to end epic suffering in gaza. The Financial Times un chief denounces clear violations of International Law in gaza conflict. The i news un chief warns of violations in gaza, provoking fury from israel. The metro brit cargo ship sinks in collision and the daily star red bugs under the bed. Those were your front pages and that is all we have time for. Thank you to my guests, leo kearse and josh howie. Were back tomorrow at 11 pm. With leo hosting panellist paul cox and lewis schaefer. How ienvy paul cox and lewis schaefer. How i envy leo. If youre i envy you, leo. If youre watching a 5 am. Stay tuned for breakfast. Othennise, thank you. 6 00 wednesday, the 25th of october. Today the united naļ¬ons october. Today the United Nations chief, Antonio Guterres, has sparked fury from israel overnight, warning the situation in the middle east is growing more dire by the hour. It comes as israel again then vows to destroy hamas , ending vows to destroy hamas, ending any hope of an immediate ceasefire. Mark white has the latest in tel aviv. Latest in tel aviv. Well, the un secretary general comments have sparked real anger here in israel, accusing Antonio Guterres of being out of touch with the reality on the ground across the uk. The clean up continues in the wake of storm babet. Its a grim picture for many, though, as more heavy rain and flooding is predicted with anti social behaviour and youth crime on the rise , could boxing be a way of rise, could boxing be a way of getting young people in and off the streets for us . We are allowing them to gain control of their thoughts. So control of their thoughts. So what you have to always realise is consequence. So actions have consequences. Consequences. Well, look, as many of us continue to battle with wild weather, alex will have all your forecasts this morning. Forecasts this morning. Good morning. The heavy rain in the southeast will clear this morning, but there is further rain to come