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Attempted murder, two counts of grievous bodily harm, aggravated burglary and possession of a bladed article. Hell appear at Barkingside Magistrates Court tomorrow. Well, Police Believe tomorrow. Well, Police Believe a piece of glass may have been used as a weapon during an incident at a school in sheffield. 17 year old boy has sheffield. 17 year old boy has been arrested for attempted murder after three people were hurt at the Birley Academy this morning. Police have praised the morning. Police have praised the actions of school staff, describing the events as a frightening ordeal. Describing the events as a frightening ordeal. The frightening ordeal. The government looks set to face more legal challenges over its rwanda plan. After detaining the first group of migrants to be deported, both men and women have been taken into custody in a series of operations across the country, officials wont confirm how many people have been detained or where they were taken from. So far, the fda trade union, which represents senior Civil Servants, is threatening legal action over the plan. Well, meanwhile, gb news can reveal that more than 1700 small boat migrants have crossed the English Channel in just over a week. Early this morning , a boatload of around 70 morning, a boatload of around 70 people was taken to dover harbour by lifeboat. In total, harbour by lifeboat. In total, around 400 people have been taken to the border force Migrant Processing Centre today. Migrant Processing Centre today. Scotlands snp government has survived a confidence vote at the scottish parliament. The leader of scottish labour, anas sarwar, tabled the motion after a power sharing deal between the snp and the greens collapsed. The motion was defeated by 70 votes to 58. Meanwhile, two msps thought to be considering running to replace scotlands first minister have held private talks together. John swinney and kate forbes met at holyrood yesterday. Both have received support from senior members of their party after humza yousaf announced that he was stepping down. The meeting has been described as informal. Both politicians are still weighing up their options well. For the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to news. Com. Au. Its time now to news. Com. Au. Its time now for headliners. For headliners. Thanks, ray. Hello and welcome to headliners. Im nick dixon, taking you through tomorrows top stories for the next hour. And im joined by resident scientist steve n allen. Scientist steve n allen. There he is. And resident science denier lewis n schaefer. How are you both doing . Well, hes facing away from me, in case you catch the science, isnt it . No. Im going to win. Im going to win because we all know that the science is completely alive. You dont even need to know which science. Youre just like the science is wrong. You know, whenever they say the science, its wrong. What about a science . What about a science . What about a science . Good point. A science can be right, but theres no its not the science. He used the words the science. He used the words the science. He used the words the science too. And thats the kind of robust debate you can expect on tonights show. But lets have a quick look at the front pages. So the daily mail has data. So the daily mail has data. Rwanda became a reality. The telegraph ireland sends police to border in migrant row. The times labour plan for channel migrants to get asylum. The express heartbroken family paid tribute to wonderful child. The i uk rwanda plan could be delayed as Civil Servant sue government and finally the daily star. Were going to need a bigger lilo , which is about bigger lilo, which is about a shark terrorising sussex. And those were the front pages. So those were the front pages. So what the daily mail going with louis daily mail has has this the story , which is a true the story, which is a true scarlet daniel 14, killed in sword attack, was teachers son and he was killed at at 14. I dont know whether this is a picture of the kid at 14. Looks like a lovely kid, but hes hes hes dead. And theres people are so happy that it was a white guy that that was, spanish, brazilian national, wasnt it . Yeah, i know what you mean. On online, theres been some unfortunate, very tasteless sort of debate about with different political sides trying to score points off the who the perpetrator was. Yeah all right. Daniel. Andrew. Yeah. Tragic story. And we got the rwanda as well. Yeah. Day that rwanda became reality. This is this is became reality. This is this is what weve been. I dont know, waiting for. I havent been waiting for. I havent been waiting for. I havent been waiting for because i didnt think it was going to happen. And it probably isnt going to happen. What it is, is that it got passed in, in the house of lords and so that they, theyre going to be starting to send people to rwanda, but theyre going to give them £3,000 and theyre not going to say , they theyre not going to say, they might say, please dont come back, but the people are going to come back anyway. And its and at the same time , its being and at the same time, its being fought by people at the, in Civil Servants are fighting it. Yeah. Steve, what do you think . Im a little bit suspicious. Im a little bit suspicious. Weve got 800 officers launching operation vector , and my thing operation vector, and my thing is, its funny how you can suddenly get things done when elections are coming up. Mind you, its not been the most efficient process. So maybe im wrong. What do you think . Yeah, i think this is going to be my theme for the evening, which will make me even more hated. Now, this is not that story, theyre making this as rwanda becoming a reality. Well this is just that these raids that could have happened three weeks ago, but wouldnt have then definitely ended up in a rwanda outcome should have been happening anyway. So on that i agree its the timing. Feels like they left it until the bill was passed so that they could say these raids. Are the rwanda plan working . No, these raids should be happening anyway. So and the point about the civil service, sorry to, you know, diddle on someones chips again here. This is about the Civil Servants wanting to try and get, the clarification on their role. Their role is that theyre the rules that they work by, is that they have to stick to international law. They want the government to clarify that they wont be held responsible for breaking it. So its not that theyre launching a legal bid to stop the flights taking off. Theyre wanting legal clarification. Theyre covering their own backsides, which i think id do as well if someone said, could you be in charge of this . Id be like, yeah, brilliant. You definitely get sued for it, though. Not me. Thats what theyre doing. Oh thats rubbish, thats rubbish, steve, because at the end of the day, these people know what theyre doing. Theyre Civil Servants and theyve been told what theyve been told what told what theyve been told what to do. And so theyre not going to do. And so theyre not going to be held responsible. What was the last time you heard of a Civil Servant there . Guideline says that if someone asks them to do something that breaks international law, they should not do it. So theyre wanting clarification on actually doing it. How else should they proceed . Yeah, maybe youre right back down very, very quickly there. But i do like steves attempt. Remember we go out at 5 am. So diddle on someones chips was a wonderful way of getting around that. All right. What about the times then, steve . They have labour plan for channel migrants to get asylum. Nah, its not really what this is. Is saying that if you make your way to the uk through illegal means, they will consider asylum cases. This was the status quo before. Anyway, and this this is fine. Wherever you dont have another option, its always been that weird situation where as a nation, we have a requirement to offer some sort of asylum, and quite often people are really anti migration. Ian can often go along with the argument that, you know what, there are some cases where we should step in. People would not argue about ukraine and afghanistan. Those are some of the few places where theres a legal route. Without that, how do you manage to get to the uk . Will you break the law . And then if the rule is, well, thats it, you broke the law, now you cant actually have an asylum claim. What you need is an asylum system that filters out more hos. Nos. So do you think valid cases and do you think this is the times just trying to sabotage . Keir starmer. Well its the times spin on it. Yeah. The headline very much makes it look like theyll just be letting you come across the channel and theyll be dishing out all the asylum applications. Now, this was the way it always was until we changed it recently. So why did it say they vowed to overturn the governments hardline asylum ban then . Yeah, theyve only just recently brought in this. So youre talking about the one in in july last year, the illegal migration. Yeah. But the problem is what what do you make of the timess claim then, that about presently about 90,000 expected to rise to 115,000 by the end of the year. These people who are still in the system will be entitled to claim asylum if labour wins, which would effectively increase the asylum backlog seven fold overnight. Yeah, well, thats unfortunately what happens. The backlog has been building up since the change of the law. Youve got people who now have just been automatically not allowed to apply. Well, they cant apply. Allowed to apply. Well, they cant apply. So if then you remove that restriction, suddenly all of these people whove been waiting will be allowed to. That backlog is already there is what im saying, i suppose. But they do have a different line on the boats in general, dont they . And theyve been grilled on it, you know. Where are they going to stay . Neil coyle mp couldnt answer where the Asylum Seekers would stay. I mean, do labour have a realistic plan to tackle it . No one has a realistic plan because no politicians are willing to actually say the things that upset their base in either direction. Both sides are guilty of this. The conservatives should just be a bit honest about the fact that, no, weve been fiddling the numbers because we actually like what it does to gdp. We like to boast about the economy. So weve been deliberately failing on the asylum side of things, on the migration side of things, and then blaming it on lefty, whatever you want to say, lawyer doctors probably, or whatever. Whereas labour make it look like, oh no, were not going to bnngin like, oh no, were not going to bring in any restrictions. Youll have to if you want to win elections. Well, dont. Oh i dont believe that. I dont believe that because i think the people that because i think the people that are coming in are left leaning people who would vote laboun leaning people who would vote labour. So i dont think theyve got any intention of trying to stop this from happening. Okay. Theyre like, gb news. Viewers who we learned the other day mainly prefer keir starmer, who knew . So youre home . Yeah. Yeah. Lets do the telegraph then. And people said the rwanda scheme wouldnt work and hardly any migrants would actually leave. But thats not true. Weve sent loads over to ireland already. Lewis yes. And this is what, rishi sunak was saying talking to the irish ministers. He was saying, he was saying dont send the send police to the irish border to stop migrants, sunak tells dublin and because people people are coming in through england into ireland, because the irish people are a lot nicer to them, generally speaking, than the english people have been. And so hes saying dont, dont stop it. Like two weeks ago you would have been sat there saying, the problem is england. The uk is too nice to people who come over here. We dish out all these benefits left, right. Thats the normal moan. And now the moan is the irelands too nice and were not nice enough. I i, im not. This is me third one. Yeah. Its not the story i think theres something very suspicious about suddenly saying all of these , suddenly saying all of these, migrants are making their way from the uk to ireland because of the passing of the rwanda bill. I think this was happening anyway, and this is a really Good Opportunity to blame it on the bill, try and make it seem like the uk should receive people back. This has given us a lot of empathy for the french. Yeah, response to what are you going to do about getting people back . Yeah, you say blame it on the bill. Its the opposite. Take credit for the for it is what you mean with the with sunak. Hes taking credit saying its brilliant. Were getting released people to ireland but hes falling for it because i think a lot of these, the numbers that theyre looking at, which even in the article theres a lovely article where they say around 90 of migrants claiming asylum in ireland are coming from the uk , ireland are coming from the uk, but that is not a statistically accurate 90. Then dont use numbers if what youve got is a guess. Thats what you mean there . Yeah. The uk prime ministers spokesman said that the government does not recognise the figure. Thats how i feel when i see myself on tv. Im like, im much better looking than that. All right, lets end with the daily star then. Steve were going to need a bigger lilo, a great white shark is feared to be patrolling off the coast of sussex, but it could also be that kid from jaws with also be that kid from jaws with a fin strapped to its back, says the daily star. Nah, im actually, i dont. I cant disprove this one. There might be a great white shark out there, there. Lets hope theres there, there. Lets hope theres not. I mean, i aint going swimming either way, so im fine. No, ill never go into sea. But they are around a lot more, arent they . Sharks . Now, have you noticed that we seem to get big sharks hovering around this once very moderate island . Is it climate change, louis, no. 110. No. Theres always been sharks. And we dont know that its a white shark. And there are tons of there are tons of sharks. Theres some of the nicest, from what i can tell. Theres, like, what i can tell. Theres, like, really nice sharks going on. There were nice sharks on both sides. Theyre just. I hate to say i hate to use that word. I think its a lie, i think. What shark . Yes, yes. Sharks are lie. Yes. This is the latest Conspiracy Theory from louis. Even i dont know this one. Even i dont know this one. Water dehydration. I know that shark. Oh, thats a white that shark. Oh, thats a white shark. Thats a white shark. It could be one of those basking sharks, right, i think. Oh, nice ones. And great white shark. How great. We dont even know it. Maybe its actually its misanthrope. Maybe its feeling bad about itself and its lowest right now. And i think it could do so. It just wants to be left alone. Shark empathy here on gb news thatis shark empathy here on gb news that is the front page is done. But coming up, dads army becomes real deadly e bikes and why the bbc grind you soon. Welcome back to headliners im nick dixon, still here with steve allen and louis unemployed soon. Schaefer i just i ripped that one out. Hes fine. Hes staying. Dont worry. Lets do the times with a tragic story staying. Dont worry. Lets do the 1showsvith a tragic story staying. Dont worry. Lets do the 1shows usi a tragic story staying. Dont worry. Lets do the 1shows us howagic story staying. Dont worry. Lets do the 1shows us how urgently staying. Dont worry. Lets do the 1shows us how urgently we that shows us how urgently we need to solve this small boats problem. Steve. Exactly. Yeah. The sea was the only choice i had, says father of girl who died in channel. Youre right. A reminder that the people traffickers are the worst type of criminals. Not only because we know the rules and the laws that theyre breaking, but theyre allow situations like this to happen. When this dinghy was so crammed full of people that it led to to the several deaths, including this, this quys deaths, including this, this guys daughter. And its so sad. And he says, i couldnt protect her. Ill never forgive myself. Totally understandable emotional response. And this is a response. And this is a difficult situation. Its when a family goes through a tragedy, you feel like you dont want to knit , pick you feel like you dont want to knit, pick some of the details. But he said it was their only opfion but he said it was their only option and i feel incredibly sad about the fact that if you read through the details, his wife was born in belgium, so surely not all of that family had to travel by dinghy. Even if you somehow take the argument, travel by dinghy. Even if you somehow take the argument , the somehow take the argument, the only place they could go to have a life is the uk. Only place they could go to have a life is the uk. The wife and a life is the uk. The wife and the kids could have flown and it would have avoided this death. And maybe thats a terrible take on it, but it looks like its true. And i understand why hed be saying i had no choice during this situation, but it it feels like you did you are you saying its true . Are you saying its true . Steve because you cant just get on an aeroplane and fly to england just because you know, youre youre from belgium or something. So i dont think that thats thats thats true. He had to get on the boat. I take i see what the guy is saying. The guy the guy saying he didnt want to lose his kid, but his other kid, he survived and his other kid, he survived and his other two kids survived. Yeah. Other two kids survived. Yeah. Its very brutal, isnt it . I mean, maybe, yeah, he took the risk , obviously. I mean, belgium risk, obviously. I mean, belgium denied him asylum because basra was deemed a safe area. So he he couldnt get asylum. But then is couldnt get asylum. But then is it its not right to just say, well, ill just try and get into england this is why we need a deterrent to stop these tragedies happening. I mean, he said there was no chance of any, any sort of life or his kids going to school if he didnt do this. So he just had to risk everything. But people dont seem to really believe that from what ive seen. And there are the two counters to that would be the lefty side of it. If we had an a way of applying a legal route, that means you didnt have to try and make it across the busiest waterway. Theres that argument, but theres also the right wing argument. If you were in france, so you had the ability to be in a safe country without risking the water. But again , it feels horrible in the again, it feels horrible in the stomach to Say Something that feels like youre laying blame in the direction of someone whos going through the worst thing anyone can go through. Well, we dont know that. I mean, this this guy, he he was raised he was living in basra and he and his daughter was living entirely in, in, in belgium. So he wasnt he might not have been that close to his, his daughter. Im sounding a bit unsympathetic to the guy, i think at the, at the end of the day, when you take people from other countries, you prevent them from becoming the country that they could could have become. Yeah. And they might become. Yeah. And they might have been in sweden, but born in belgium, theyre in sweden anyway. Its not clear. He seemed to move around a bit. All right. Well its a very, very grim story. Lets do the male and female presenters are complaining that the bbc breaks you. The complaining that the bbc breaks you. The one was paid 139 k. I mean, id consider being slightly broken for that, louis, i know youre a big fan of the bbc. Yes not enough money for me. The bbc grinds you down. It breaks you. For female news breaks you. For female news presenters suing the corporation after missing out on top roles and taken off air, telling employment tribunal that the Selection Process is rigged. And Selection Process is rigged. And so these are four women between the ages of 48 and 50. I dont know who they are really. Martine croxall , karen croxall Martine Croxall, karen croxall yeah. Craig snell gianoni , kasia yeah. Craig snell gianoni, kasia madera. Anita macveigh need your madera. Anita macveigh need your reading glasses. Lewis. Yeah no, i can read it. Some of them are right. Some of those were. Yeah, some of those or whatever. And theyre saying they, you know, theyre saying they, you know, they were basically kicked out of their jobs and forced to, to employ. And now its going to theyre going to an employment tribunal. But you know, when these people were given jobs and theyre saying it was horrible for the bbc to do this, but when these women were given jobs 20 and 30 years ago, there was some guy like you, possibly me, who says, we dont need this guy anymore. We can get a woman for work for less money. And i dont think that they complained about it. Well, im a little sceptical, steve, just because im less sceptical about the age aspect. But the sex aspect , i aspect. But the sex aspect, i mean, the bbcs journalist training scheme has just been shown to be hiring seven women for every out of every ten people, meaning hardly any men and a tiny percentage. 1 in and a tiny percentage. 1 in 3 were white britons. So its been shown to be very biased towards women and towards non white people. Could i just join in on that point . My favourite thing about that article about the Training Course and where its staffed . Course and where its staffed . When they were asked if there are any white men there, the response was we dont have that information relevant. It just check your paperwork. You know how many white people are there . You know how many women are there, do the maths. There, do the maths. You do the math. Yeah. So i find it very hard to believe that the bbc, uniquely , you that the bbc, uniquely, you know, discriminates against women. There is this thing about pay women. There is this thing about pay and it has been shown, i think women are less likely to negotiate for higher pay because its a very sort of tough business. Theyre too nice basically. I mean, im too nice. Yeah. Why am i so low . But i mean, there are some cases, like if you remember the asda one where the women who were working on the cashiers wanted to be paid the same as the people in the warehouses. And i think you could make a solid argument about, you know, if you had to choose on a cold day which job you wanted, you didnt want to be out in the cold warehouse. So it would be right for one to be paid more than other legally. Im wrong in that the court found that they should be paid the same. But if you are a newsreader and you think you should be paid the same as someone else doing it, have your tribunal. Fair enough. Have a crack at it. Have a swing at it. I do think the bbc is doing something terrible by. This is when they merged bbc news and bbc world news, whatever that channel was called, they merged them to the one channel, so they had to lose some people. But my word, theyve lost some good newsreaders. Martins a really good newsreader. And have you good newsreader. And have you seen some of the newsreaders on the weekends . I mean, i know you need to train new talent, but some of them could barely read. Its difficult to watch. It makes you turn off. Obviously. I know you turn off for other reasons. So theres something going on with the age side of it because theyve employed a lot younger readers, but their readers, i mean, i mean, you should be you should be able to read. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so this is i mean, do you want to take another swing at the names again . Sorry. Well, theyre like weirdly, but we do a lot more. Weve got to be funny and suddenly learn 20 new stories. We now have no training for this. Im coming up with funny jokes. Im writing my own jokes. Theyre just reading. Reading. And theyre getting paid 139 k to read. Is that what they said . They were being paid one of them. Yeah i didnt read there, Martine Croxall said. She revealed she she was paid 139,000. It doesnt say like dunng 139,000. It doesnt say like during what period it could be the entire 20 years. I think its probably presumably a year or was it as a payout . I think it was a year. Whats strange to me is theyve sort of been loitering while still presumably being paid. I could be completely wrong on that. But shes been sort of shes been sort of not on the telly for a yean sort of not on the telly for a year, but still discussing things with the bbc. How does it work, steve . Youve worked there before you were cancelled. How doesit before you were cancelled. How does it work . Youre just allowed to sort of be on the payroll for ages while youre not on the telly. Its very difficult to get sacked from the bbc. I know people have. There are some Amazing Stories of what people have done and theyre just unsackable. And if you try, if the bbc tries to get rid of someone, they just call a union and they go in and say, this person needs more training, they blame the bbc for the actions of the staff. Yeah, i sympathise to an extent if theyve been mistreated and i wasnt there and im showbiz, you know, mead is a tough business. But thats the thing. Bbc is a job for life type of approach. You cant have a job for life in this business. I mean, i sort of work on the assumption we can go any day. I mean, should you really expect to have a its not even a business. The bbc takes 160 something pounds a year from from everybody, whether they like it or not. So its not a business. Its, its a, its what do they call that, a money laundering. Its a campaign. Laundering. Its a campaign. I mean youre right. The licence fee needs changing. Its a ridiculous way of doing it. I dont think it makes it a ponzi scheme or other insults, but yeah, the way its funded is wrong. And then it goes. Its being going to the employment tribunal, which is such a british idea. The idea is every british idea. The idea is every single time someones fired, its got to go to an employment tribunal, and it means that it can be. Tribunal, and it means that it can be it tribunal, and it means that it can be. It could be called back. Wow. An american accusing us of being too legalistic. Weve truly hit rock bottom. All right, lets do the i and who do you think you are kidding, mr putin, if you think you can beat our new volunteer army. Steve. Yeah. Uk senior ex military figures back plan for new voluntary army in case of war. And they make a lot of sense because were going to need some numbers. And the idea is to have what they call the mass citizen army, which feels like where theres blame, theres a claim. Like if you get all of these people volunteering, someone trips over and were going to be paying a lot of money. Theyre si king 200,000. And the idea is to try and get veterans , people who are and get veterans, people who are already trained up, basically. And that makes a lot of sense. And that makes a lot of sense. But the army is losing people every single year. Just people not wanting to join. Its not losing through the normal army way of doing things. Wonder why theyve been so welcoming. When the raf said useless white males and all that. Anyway, sorry. Carry on. The bbc. Carry on. The bbc. Just inserting my own agenda there. Go on. Yeah. So i mean, its a plan that makes some sense. I mean, i hear what you say. Theres something embarrassing. If your army is staffed through volunteers who used to do it and, you know, now theyre back in it, its like like doctors keeping their hand in doing one day a week, i suppose. But its better than nothing. And they say that if we suddenly have an extra 200,000 soldiers, effectively, that putin would have to Pay Attention. Yeah , a little bit sceptical. Yeah, a little bit sceptical. Sorry, liz, im just a bit sceptical. Putin is looking at us and hes not deterred if he sees there are 200,000 reservists being stood up, hell think again, will he . If theyre all like 70. This has nothing to do with putin. This has to do with the People Living in this country. And what this guy is saying with these leaders is lord dannatt or whoever the other people are. Theyre saying theyre saying theres hundreds of thousands of ex soldiers who are our kind of people and theyre going to be fighting the people who arent our kind of people who arent our kind of people. And thats what this is people. And thats what this is all about. This is about getting people who are proper english people who are proper english people to fight for england or britain, whatever this country wants to call itself. Britain its for fighting for the for the true country. But is the the true country. But is the problem i mean just quickly on that they had there was this thing that came out that was given to sort of top army brass, as they say, and it was this warning indicators of far right extremist views. And one of them extremist views. And one of them was patriotism. I mean, i havent the army caused this party themselves with this bizarre sort of wokeism thats infected the whole thing. Im infected the whole thing. Im not sure theyve caused it. I think the people, the people in the government, whatever, have caused it. But i think that they these are this is the guy probably hes in his 60s. These these people. And theyre not these people. And theyre not the ones who are setting these kind of crazy, crazy rules. Okay. Fair enough. Well, lets do the telegraph then. And when i first heard the phrase e bikes, i thought it was just an old man from yorkshire complaining about bikes. But its something far more sinister. Louis e bikes and, 40, 40 mile per hour right in myself. Wheres my 139 ks . Very funny. Martin, youre going to be fired when they replace you with some with some cheap woman, the, the 40 mile per hour death trap, quote unquote, death trap, e bikes wrecking havoc or wreaking, wreaking, wreaking havoc, havoc on britains streets. And this is this is streets. And this is this is a complaint that was made by the motorcycle industry association, who are like bmw and honda and yamaha. And theyre saying that the motorbike shapps go a bit too fast and people arent trained and theyre not buying insurance and theyre making it harder for us whove got the really nice bikes to , to, to use really nice bikes to, to, to use them. Okay, this , you know, them. Okay, this, you know, actually, im torn on this. I started reading this going, yeah, its ridiculous. All these e bikes, they are going fast. Part of my brain was just doing my e scooter response because they wind me up more. But actually the argument theyre getting more people biking in, its healthy. The e bikes doing a lot of the work. Thats like going to the gym and asking a big lag to lift something for you because you want to put your back out. Are you really getting that much Health Benefit from being on an e bike . But legally, theyre capped at 15 miles an hour and i cycle i and i theres where i live, theres one of those little speed traps, and one of my favourite things to do is make it flash red. You just go through there at 21 miles an houn go through there at 21 miles an hour. So actually 15 miles an hour. So actually 15 miles an houris hour. So actually 15 miles an hour is a bit slow for a bike. When you can do it, you know, some manly thighs can get you 21 miles. I believe thats one of your favourite things to do. But fill it in. Its not. Theyre not going 15 miles an hour. Theyre going 15 miles an hour. Theyre going much faster because theyve been theyve been improved or whatever theyve been done to them and theyve been done to them and theyve been and theyre not being checked. Well, i have to say, i felt personally attacked. It said, these illegal e bikes, are they designed to be able to stop quickly at high speeds with a person weighing 13 stone . I was like, how dare you . Although ive lost £2. 8 today, so im down to 12, 11. 8. You could stop quicker. You could stop quicker. The nation didnt need to know that. That is it for part two. But coming up, why slavery didnt make britain rich. Why you should let go of your anger, louis, and why ofcom is looking into porn. See you welcome back to headliners. Lets crack on with the telegraph. And apparently, slavery didnt even make britain rich. Im starting to slavery didnt even make britain rich. Im starting to think slavery didnt even make britain rich. Im starting to think the rich. Im starting to think the whole thing wasnt worth it. Steve. I knew wed convince you eventually, yeah. Slavery did not make britain rich finds report. Theres a new book that reveals that colonialism delivered only modest gains. And if you do the maths, there are some gains. But all the military extra that you have to spend for going around doing all the slavery costs. So theyve said actually it didnt make the nafion actually it didnt make the nation rich because theres a lot of outgoings associated with running a slave trade, and you could also add in the end of the slave trade to add some maths into it. But im not sure thats exactly what reparations are based on the prospering ness of the doers. Its also the impact of the nations. This same report says there is a cost to the people who were taken from countries. And i suppose if you view it this way, you know , if view it this way, you know, if you get mugged and you want your wallet back and the police say , wallet back and the police say, yeah, but you had to get an uber to come and mug you, you wouldnt care about the costs that the perpetrator did in this , but what i think is the best finding out of this, it made some families rich. Weve had some families rich. Weve had some cases of some families giving money. Reparations should come from the rich families, not the rest of the nation. Get the rich posh people playing paying if its going to happen, not the people from working class backgrounds who slightly socially climbed. Im on board all of a sudden. But you know what . Thats like 200 years ago. So youre asking the descendants of people from 200 years, and theres no more. Theres no money from those trevelyans did it. They still had the dosh. They still had the dosh. Heres the thing. This is he. You know what . I hate to say it. Youre basically right. Because the danes didnt have any slaves, and theyre very rich. And the norwegians didnt have any slaves , and theyre rich. Any slaves, and theyre rich. And i dont think the, the germans did. The germans have any slaves . Dont think that they did. So they probably i mean, the belgian, one of the worst ones he cites is the belgians rule over the congo. So lets not let the belgium, belgium. But they werent slaves in in belgium, i dont think, i think they were just oppressed people. Well, it was colonialism. Thats what were talking about. Its about talking about. Its about colonialism. So this is kristian niemietz. We should shout him out because he follows me on twitter and i follow him. So hes hes an interesting guy and hes hes an interesting guy and he has this new book, imperial measurement. And hes just going through this, overturning some myths. I think we should do that because although it turns out, you know, we didnt get rich of it. And as you say, it turns out it. And as you say, it turns out it wasnt good for the people, which we might imagine we do need to get rid of the idea that were just uniquely evil and that, you know, it was i mean, thats one thing thats maybe thats one thing thats maybe thats not relevant to this book, but the idea we got rich off it, probably most kids think that in school that we just really it was just bad all around for everyone. And it was going on a lot and we ended it as well. We never hear about that. That worries me a bit because kids in school, there was a piece by Michael Deacon in the telegraph, a group of 13 year olds were asked, you know, do you hate britain . All the hands went up immediately. I mean, we could teach a different history, even if its this, even if its okay. We didnt get rich. It was bad for the people and nuanced history, but we need and nuanced history, but we need a more nuanced, accurate history. And even if we did get rich. So what . So what . The hell with these people. Let them. Let with these people. Let them. Let them get. And you know what . You go to. You go to , go to nigeria go to. You go to, go to nigeria or ghana or whatever. Half the people were stealing the other half of the people and putting them on boats. We didnt go in. We didnt go into africa and enslave anybody. We were we were given we and not me, but we, we, the british people were given these people, so they should just take it. They should just take it. Not that theyre going to take it easy, but this is where were hating each other too much. Too much. No, its a sudden redemptive message at the end. There you went, all hippie in the middle of that sentence. Okay, lets end on that upbeat moment. Lets do the telegraph. And have you considered letting go of your angen considered letting go of your anger, louis . And then well get on to the actual story. Yeah. Why let it go. I have thought about it. Why let it go . Of angeris about it. Why let it go . Of anger is good for your health, and it is good for your health. And this is what this is like an odd story, which with columbia universal, the irving medical centre, thats down where i used to live down on between 13th and 14th streets on avenue b. Yeah, we need to get the exact street names, please. Yeah. 221 avenue b, right. I names, please. Yeah. 221 avenue b, right. I lived names, please. Yeah. 221 avenue b, right. I lived there for b, right. I lived there for middle england between night. You know what is that . Its probably. I havent been there. Well i was there a few not moved. No, its still there. I respect youve continued this riff though. And youve, youve kept going with this joke which is just listing american street names that no one cares about. Well, do you want to know something . Yes, yes, i think because people want to hear it because theres some people watching it and theyre saying, oh my god, im on avenue b right now. Im im in 221. This story is about anger and youre making it happen. Youre making youre making us angry. And ive got very ive got ive got a im a very angry person. Yes my, my Blood Pressure is like 200 over 120, 48 beats per minute. Ive got 48 beats per minute. Ive got very high Blood Pressure. But theyre saying that people who dont get worked up are happier. Very well. Yeah. Theyre saying that even remembering past experience is can mess with your blood vessels and make you all make you die earlier, steve or something. Yeah, basically. And they dont know the, the link between probably adrenaline and cortisol. The two hormones that increase when you have these experiences. But if you cling on to anger, you get more of those hormones. They dont know how. But then that impacts your blood vessels and youre going to die. And they say by studying this, they might be able to find some sort of a treatment. And i say, no, if you cant rein your anger in die young. Thats what you should do. I get a little bit annoyed by people who act like theyre the victim of their own temper. Angry people. Oh, what am i meant to do . Be in charge am i meant to do . Be in charge of your own emotions. Dont be so weak as to i say this as someone who is very angry in his 20s, and now im like the most zen person i know. So i do think if you dont have the ability to rein in your emotions, stay in. Because if you cant drive, we dont let you put behind the wheel. If you cant rein in your angen wheel. If you cant rein in your anger, how bad . How bad is it that somebody says, hey, calm down, take it easy. Whats wrong with that . Well, that don young and also angry people, theyre the ones that do all the violent crimes. That do all the violent crimes. Chill out. Chill out. A lot of them arent angry. A lot of them. This is their this is their job that theyre doing. You see fair though, steve, the world is very annoying and people are awful. So just i do i do understand in the same world. And somehow ive realised that the angry response is childish. 0h, that the angry response is childish. Oh, i got so upset. Itll be a grown up. Yeah, but youre a kind of sciencey, you know, robot person. So i had a dissociative moment. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Anyway, so maybe somebodys getting angry now. Maybe somebody needs to be told, hey, you know, getting angry is going to cause a heart attack or a stroke, so dont do it. Yeah. Its good. Its a good disincentive. Lets do the independent. An ofcom is investigating onlyfans. And to me, ofcom regulations, one of you will have to be pro ofcom and the other pro porn. Which do you want steve . Well lets find out. Onlyfans investigated by uk regulator ofcom over fears that bbc newsreaders could access porn. Young people could access pornography. That was a different news story, wait until you hear about the rest of the internet, because if you dont find it on onlyfans, literally like one click away on many search engine. So ofcom, our biggest fans, well, search engine. So ofcom, our biggest fans, well , they watch biggest fans, well, they watch a lot anyway. Theyre looking into this. Its a bit its another one of those stories that is upsetting. What only fans failed to do is have a proper system that checks the age of the people signing up, and they were earning on the other side. Theyd set a limit of 20 year olds, and it was only letting people join. If they were 23 or above. Then theyre investigating to see if this error meant more. But, you know, the headline makes it look like theyre letting two year olds join and they werent. You need a credit card to join. So a credit card to join. So theres still was a restriction in place. But still, we like headunes in place. But still, we like headlines that make people look like theyre wrong. And what the question is, what what is ofcom doing and which stands for office of censorship of media. What are they doing involved in this . This is like an independent thing. How could they be involved with onlyfans . You think 11 year olds should be able to join onlyfans . No, i think i think its a valid point. Louis, which is porn, is very damaging for teenagers and so on, definitely. But also ofcom expanding its remit more and more. Is that also pretty damaging . You know , also pretty damaging . You know, there used to be tv, now its there used to be tv, now its the internet. Where does it end . Its i agree with that. Its like, would they just stop it . The guy whos in control of this is what is a grade one . Im one of the grades. And his uncle was the guy who paid for having the prisoner made. Do you know i agree with you now its just disgraceful. Any idea what hes talking about, steve . So, Michael Grade and lew grade are the two grades are talking about. Yeah. And the prisoner was a tv series in the 60s by lew grade and Michael Grade is the guy whos head of this thing. And i guess hes hes in his 80s and he wants to keep busy. And so hes like , hes having and so hes like, hes having his people do things. No idea what that was. All right. Well, lets move on to i want to say i love ofcom, but, you know, go easy on jacob. Lets see the times. And women make absolutely brilliant footballers. Its set when theyre on their period. Not my words. Blame the scientist louis. Its pure science. Its the it is the science. Its the it is the science. A female football is six times likelier to get injured before a period , and the injured before a period, and the penod injured before a period, and the period is, you know, the bloody thing down there. I think the viewers probably know. I think they do know. And i dont know that much about it. Im finding out more and more about it when i get older. Out more and more about it when i get older. Im a bit too. I never paid attention to it when i was younger, and i dont want to Pay Attention to it now, but im constantly told by that, by some woman that her period and everything but it says basically that women, women get periods and then they get injured during the periods. And if they didnt get periods, theyd be a lot healthier. Word for word. Word for word. Word for word. So yeah, well, thats what the science says. Its the science thats your business. Its not. Yeah. Okay. So they get injured more the far more likely to get injured during this premenstrual phase. And of course they presumably synchronise the whole team together. So if you get them on that one week, youll just destroy them. Ten nil. Yeah. Right so sadly, not sadly, that seems harsh. This looks like you imagine injured by just going in for a tackle. Thats whats whats happened. The hormones whats happened. The hormones have taken over. Its more likely to get muscular strain. So actually , that makes some so actually, that makes some kind of physical sense. You imagine, you know, you might be less supple during a certain time because i imagined it would be. The time because i imagined it would be. The hormones kick in. They see the ball as an egg and just want it. Thats not what happens. No. Do they get, sent off more during this period for arguing with the ref . And then to do shoplifting and things like that . Thats also what they do . No, i think this looks bad for vigorous sex because this is on your way into getting pregnant and youre more likely to put, you know, the time when you could conceive. Time when you could conceive. Youre more likely to pull a muscle. Thats a shame. Okay , well, if they were if okay, well, if they were if they were really good athletes, they were really good athletes, they wouldnt even have a period. They would, they would. Whatever it is youre thinking of, men. Thinking of, men. No, im thinking women. When women exert themselves , they women exert themselves, they dont have periods. And what was the end of that sentence . We have to move on. But i also want to know. Im just i just said it. Maybe. Maybe its okay. The nafion it. Maybe. Maybe its okay. The nation will get it home. I wasnt listening, but do you know what you can tell . This is the womens game. Maybe ill get in trouble for this, but because it says theyre concerned about the pain and suffering of the players, if its a mens game, theyll just be like, this is going to stop us winning the league. Thats all they care about, right . Yeah, i dont know. Thats a weird kind of mens rights point at the end. All right. Lets see the telegraph with a story about a school that the soviet union could only dream of. Steve. Yeah, a private school had parents investigated by social services in row over trans daughter. That is what your money is paying for, this is, charles says that charles mother says that George Watsons college in edinburgh. Remember, were talking scottish rules then, arent we . Up there . Would rather defer to controversial lgbt charity than listen to clinical advice. What happened was they had a child who was questioning and they wanted whats the phrase, watchful waiting . This is the approach where you wait and you watch, you observe and you dont do any action. And this is effectively in line with the results of the cas report. The being cautious about it. So this is before that. Oh, thats what it sounds like steve, let me finish this. Let me finish the thing. Then the school was like, no, were going to affirm whichever gender they want to go for , and this is they want to go for, and this is you like this part of the story. Theyre called in social services. The social services intervened, interviewed the parents, totally agreed with the parents. Yeah, but it was absolutely disgusting that the school is calling social services on parents because theyre worried about their child becoming trans. I mean, how this just dystopian soviet, as i said, sickening. What do you think, lewis . I agree, i agree with that. Its but thats whats happening right now is all of the, all of the, the strong, wonderful things that make this country good are being under attack. Yeah, right. Well, the attack. Yeah, right. Well, the neoliberal state wants to own your children instead of the family. Sorry, lewis, we got to go. I want to do a more on that story, but that is it for part three. But coming up in the final welcome back to headliners. Now, this is the light hearted section of the show where we do funny stories. So lets look at this times article about local government debt. Lewis. Well, it is funny because im a warning of more council bankruptcies as debt doubles. This is whats going on in councils because the councils borrowed a lot of money. They basically the governments i guess, stopped giving them money. I dont know what the hell happened. They just they like my, my borough which is southwark because im in nunhead and this is whats happenedis in nunhead and this is whats happened is that theyve run out of money because the Interest Rates have gone up and up and up. And rates have gone up and up and up. And 15, that the amount of money that each borough is spending on the debt for, for their like little area is 15. And it used to be 9. And the council, the councils average net worth is down 80 billion. So these we should convert that into pounds for a start, pounds sterling pounds pounds okay. And so theres nothing theres nothing came out there okay. Lewis is devastated by the debt of these councils. I mean steve heres an idea for you, aries should be privately run councils privately run. Right. Lewisham sponsored by sony because theyre doing such a bad job. Lets make it private. Thats whats happening now. Nice talks. But i asked steve. Hes back. Go on then. No you go steve. No, no , you know that steve. No, no, you know that thatis steve. No, no, you know that that is whats happening. Like instead of like they want to put one of the tallest buildings, i think in southwark and not in southwark, in london, in southwark. And thats what theyre doing. Theyre building tall and taller buildings. Whos benefiting from that . The council is either benefiting from it or and the people who are putting the buildings up. I have a bit of sympathy for councils though, because what also happens is the government gets to decide who does what, keeps moving things in the direction of the council has to do it and then stops giving them money. So of course its going to happen. Its also true that councils arent allowed to be in debt. They have to declare bankruptcy, whereas governments dont. Otherwise the shame that every i think it was like 1695, the last time that the uk wasnt in debt. So theres a bit of hypocrisy there. But i dont like the idea of our council tax going to pay interest. You should be paying for the services you get, okay, lets do the times with a vaccine story, which i know is strategically not gone to lewis. Steve. Steve. Yep. Fierce immune response from vaccine. And ill tell you why im doing quote marks in a bit offer hope for glioblastoma. So were talking about a brain cancen so were talking about a brain cancer. And this is just last week. There was the story of a vaccine for skin cancer. They vaccine for skin cancer. They work by the same things. You take a bit of rna from the cancer. Take a bit of rna from the cancer. You then train the cancer. You then train the immune response of the body to attack that protein, that rna. Attack that protein, that rna. And then you kill the cancer. Its working. Its working in other animals now. Its working in humans as well. Quote marks not a vaccine because its a treatment. So you cant actually have this done before you have the cancer. You take a bit of the cancer. You take a bit of the cancer. You take a bit of the cancer and you program the immune response. The big problem with cancer is our immune systems dont fight it. If you can get the immune system to do all the work because you cant get anything thats as good as the immune system. And this is what it does and it seems to be working. Im impressed by your knowledge. Im a bit gutted that the fun section has horrific illnesses and council debt. I think theyre trying to stitch me up. Lewis. Anything on this lot on this thing . This thing, this thing is one of those stories about dogs and they basically they they they said they were they they they said they were they normally would, would have died between 30 and 60 days if theyve got this thing. And because theyve been giving, given this thing for this glioblastoma, theyre living 139 days. So its like its not like theyve been given five more years or ten more years. Its quite a while. It is complete. The point is the point is, is that glioblastoma is one of those diseases. Its cancer of the brain. So they dont have the brain. So they dont have the kind of treatment that they would have for other, other, bodies. Would have for other, other, bodies. Number one and number two, number two, the treatment of that, they actually theres a guy, his name. Im not going to guy, his name. Im not going to say what his name is because i forgot it. But basically all you need to do is you need to you need to do is you need to you need to do is you need to you need to starve the cancer. Its a cool. Okay, well, theres the light hearted section. Lets do light hearted section. Lets do the mail. And why the cool kids dont sleep literally. Lewis tired kids. The most popular children at school, get the least sleep, especially if they are girls. Study finds. This is are girls. Study finds. This is this comes out of sweden, and sweden is a country thats a lot like our country. And if i call this my country , my kids this my country, my kids country, and its my kids country, and its my kids country , and it says that, it country, and it says that, it says that, popular teens get the least amount of sleep. But only if youre a girl. Basically, if youre a boy, it doesnt really affect them. Quick hot take on this. Its correlation versus causation. No, i think youll find people have had a lot of sleep are intolerable. Oh, i slept really intolerable. Oh, i slept really well last night. I dont like you. So well last night. I dont like you. So its not that popular. People dont sleep. People who sleep well. Oh, they whine you right up. Oh, okay. We got one more story in this last minute. Oh, okay. We got one more story in this last minute. So story in this last minute. So lets do the mirror. And are young people afraid of the telephone , steve. Telephone, steve. Right. So a quarter of young people never pick up the phone when you call them. A new study finds. Take the hint. Stop calling. New Research Says that this generation dont refuse to pick up the phone. They dont do proper phone calls, which makes you feel sorry for the samaritans. The volunteers. Theyre theyre going to be quiet, arent they, you dont need to call now. Thats the difference. When we were growing up, phone calls were the only way to get information across. Even i look at my phone when its ringing, thinking like, oh, just, you better be calling to explain why youre not texting me, because you never know. A phone call could take too long. Okay, lewis 20s on this i agree. I agree totally. Steve is agree. I agree totally. Steve is hes a scientist. That was only six seconds. I mean, thats the most thats the first time youve been concise. Is when i wanted you to be more verbose. I cant believe it. Yeah ask him about an address. Ask him about an address. Ill give my take on it. Which is that. Ive blocked lewis when he calls, so it never comes up. All right. The lewis when he calls, so it never comes up. All right. The show lewis when he calls, so it never comes up. All right. The show is pretty much over, but lets take another quick look at thursdays front pages. So the daily mail has day that rwanda became a reality, which is about the scheme finally kicking in. The telegraph ireland sends police to border in migrant row. The times has labour plan for channel migrants to get asylum. The express heartbroken family paid tribute to wonderful child, which is the tragic story of daniel benjamin. The eye news has uk rwanda plan could be delayed as Civil Servants sue government. And finally, the daily star. Were going to need a bigger lilo, which was about a potential large shark in sussex. We cover all the big stories. Thatis we cover all the big stories. That is all we have time for. Thanks to lewis and steve, were back tomorrow at 11 pm. With some other people, and if youre watching at 5 am, then stay tuned for breakfast. 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Southern england some warm sunshine as well, but in between outbreaks of rain continuing even some thundery showers on saturday. The fine weather moves north, but therell be further rain coming up from the south. A brighter outlook with boxt solar for sponsors of weather on gb news. Good evening. Its 7 00, and this is farage with me. Tom harwood this evening. Now, the rwanda detentions are beginning today. The home office has released footage of the detention of Illegal Migrants earmarked for removal to rwanda. Could the scheme be finally getting off the ground . Well getting off the ground . Well speak to the one and only nigel farage. Live from the United States. And speaking of the United States campus protests from coast to coast, violent clashes have erupted within large pro palestinian demonstrations and occupations across multiple states. Riot police have been called in as serious disorder worsens, will be live at one such protest and Brexit Border chaos as this weeks imposition of eu import border checks that brexiteers did not want to implement has sent heads spinning and we speak to the ceo of the Fresh Produce consortium , who believes that consortium, who believes that there was another way through this , all of that to come on the this, all of that to come on the program just after your news update with ray anderson. Update with ray anderson. Thanks, tom. Good evening. Thanks, tom. Good evening. Our top stories tonight. The 14 year old boy killed in a sword attack in North East London yesterday has been named as daniel anderson. The met police says a 36 year old man remains in custody on suspicion of the teenagers murder. Daniel was a pupil at bancrofts. Thats the pupil at bancrofts. Thats the same school in east london attended by grace omalley kumar, who was murdered in a knife attack in nottingham last summer. Four other people were injured during that attack