had the mindset to try to be able to complete a whole picture. >> i mean, the way i think of it as well, we all have ideas, but it's very few. we can take our ideas lengthened together to a full a full consensus. and in this area here reminds me a bill of elon musk. he had that same kind of wild imagination about taking things are impossible a good self-deprecating sense of humor, all that some differences of course, you are, you also have great curiosity and you have often i've noticed taken something from your roles and apply it to your real life. so very famously, your a very we're very active on nuclear non-proliferation and all that came out of the china syndrome, correct i read somewhere that you have taken from ben franklin, his love of marcus are religious. >> i have, i have i have become