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Driving off to mexico. Jeez. In doesnt sound good right now. It became more and more sinister in the fact that nobody had heard from them. We are hoping, thinking we are going find them. People are missing. I think people are dead a Hollywood Screen writer cant come up with this. Theres no other word to describe it. Its evil. Newport beach is the dream that a lot of people think of when they think of california. Skylar deleon and John Fitzgerald kennedy received the Death Penalty, are on death row. Jennifer deleon received two everybody surfs every day. Life sentences for her everybody goes on boats every day. Involvement. Shes in prison now. Its Southern California on steroids is really what it is. Its in between los angeles at the end of the day, they all get what they deserve. And san diego along this only alonso will ever see the light of day again. Gorgeous coastline. We decided that a 20year sentence was appropriate for a lot of people with money l whb him, given his cooperation, given his instrumental role in inudme pretty nice the prosecution of all these other people that were involved in the conspiracy. Yachts, will pull up at the port there. Justice was served because these people were found guilty, but its never a win because its one of the few places in ryan and matt lost their the United States that you can parents. Buy a multimillion dollar home mrs. Jarvi lost her son. And have a dock ready to and now that the governor has accommodate a 50, 60, 100foot taken the Death Penalty off the table, theyre getting three squares a day and living their yacht. Life. So i have really mixed feelings oh, yeah. Im here. About that. And im the captain of this skylar has finally, i think, become the person that she has boat, doing an outstanding job. Always wanted to be. Skylar is now legally a woman. Tom hawks was just one of she has filed court papers and these all around good guys. She has changed her name from he grew up in california. Skylar Julius Deleon to skylar preciosa deleon. One of the hawks. They liked to go surfing. And its worth remembering they liked to go sailing. He was in the military. He saw some fighting in vietnam. I know i do that even as we he became a probation were interviewing him, skylar was already planning how he officer. His brother became a police could live with women in jail officer, and then later a police and not men. Chief. So he came from a law theres some talk about one of the reasons why you wanted to enforcement family. Do this is you want to be in the womens jail . Yeah, i would rather be eventually tom got married and had two boys, ryan and matthew hawks, and he ends up i get along a lot better with raising them after he ended up females than i do with the guys, getting a divorce. So if im going to be doing i met toms son ryan in time, at least maybe i could do it with females than guys. Over time, he was growing Newport Beach when we first started doing this story in 2009. More and more effeminate how close were you guys, looking. He asked for female underwear, growing up, even . Very close. My parents divorced when i was and a bra, and eventually, as the criminal Justice System has probably, like, 5. Been kind of changing with the he pretty much raised me, all the way to adulthood made me who culture, he she was allowed to start wearing those things. I am today. Jackie, hello. And she wants to be called a she. Hes receiving hormones on hi, honey. The state tax dollars. Im so glad to be home. I think hes petitioned to have shes home. Jackie was a very down to earth, really sweet woman. The surgery done, but you shouldnt be rewarded for when he met jackie, he called me and said, hey, i finally met somebody. Brutally murdering three people so you can get your way. Any chance they get to take and if you guys hit it off, i know i finally found the right one. And jackie and i hit it off. Advantage of the system, to get and we did, we did everything some sort of concession or some sort of benefit that they think together. They had a lot of friends, they deserve, we are sending the wrong message. 150 people at their wedding. The lingering thoughts i have about the case are just the the boys called her mom, even though their mother was still alive. Senselessness of it. The more you learned about tom and jackie, the more you liked them. Stupid people doing stupid things and vicious things. This case is probably one of they were rich in love, not so much in the pocketbook. The few that just sheer evil is involved. They saved their money. I was a prosecutor for they were frugal. They worked hard. 26 years. Even though he never made a this is a case i will personally lot of money in his lifetime, never forget. Theyre evil personified. Scariest people ive ever met. He was a saver and he did invest i had a recurring nightmare for years where skylar is running and ive got to chase in a couple of Small Properties him and tackle him. And made a little money on that. But really at the end of the and its one of the most day, he found himself in his gratifying things in my career to have a jury make the right 50s, able to retire if he wanted call. To, and jackie was all for it. And not just once, not just twice, but three times with jennifer, with skylar, and with he had a dream. He wanted to buy a boat and live john kennedy. Tom and jackie hawks were on the boat. Murdered more than 15 years ago, and this is one of the cases he buys the boat. That i still think about when i it was about 300,000. Jkie. King out toward well deserved. Everybody agreed, thats the perfect name because she was. And we just came across these glad joi beautiful dolphins. Arent they beautiful . On our last voyage on well i love how they play with the deserved. Got a few boats here on old boat. Catalina. The well deserved is a 55foot trawler. So well miss it for a while, its kind of a smaller yacht, but well be back. But you can live on it. Tom had outfitted this vessel just incredibly sad, that couple murdered and lost at sea forever. By the way, jennifer and skylar with everything. Inside was beautiful teak. It was immaculate. Faced separate trials. After the trials they got they put in a lot of uptodate equipment and a gps divorced. Tonight theyre in separate prisons. Their son and daughter now in system and all kinds of other stuff that really made it nice. Their teens are being raze by this is our gps. Relatives. This is where our boat is and thats our program for tonight. Im amy robach. Im david muir. Approximately our eta, et from all of us at 20 20 and cetera. Their boat was moored in Newport Harbor, right off 15th abc news, good night. Street, and they would use their small boat to travel back and forth from the dock to the welldeserved. This is the first day of our new cruising season. Jackies kind of at the helm. And there is isla san pedro. They spent their time going from Newport Beach up through the california coastline into mexico. We just arrived on isla coronado. Developing news, new tom is setting anchor, and we are going to get ready and information on the hit and run explore. Tom was a crazy fitness guy. Hes like an ox, look at his death of a bay area mother. Muscles straining. And with burglaries on the how to stay in shape at sea rise, was one of his obsessions. He had weights that he would lift, hed do pull ups off the side of the boat. Heres tom doing his workout. Hes looking good. They had a wonderful love affair. They worked together as a team like no other. They were true first mates and captain. Another picture of the sun. Its getting a little bigger. This is what cursing is all about. So, this is their life for two years, until some pretty dramatic news came their way. Matt, their youngest son was about to have a baby. All right, there he is. What a doll face. It was going to be their first grandchild, and this was a big deal for tom, but it was probably an even bigger deal for jackie. Jackie was involved in a motorcycle accident when she was 22 years old and had some internal damage and, tragically, was unable to have children of her own. When her stepson matt had that baby, she really wanted to play the role of devoted grandmother. Oh, hes so beautiful. They were planning on selling this yacht, taking the proceeds from it, and moving close to this grand baby. Hi, gabe you going to say hi to grandpa . You are getting so big. I think it just hit home with them how important family was. Theres grandpa, holding his little grand boy. How are you . Youre not going poop on me, are you . The hawks decided to downsize. They were gonna go from that huge boat to a small boat, dock it in mexico, get a little house there, and still be close enough to go see the grandson who lived in arizona. So, they were willing to sell the well deserved, and being very frugal, they wanted to bypass the broker, and just sell the boat on their own. So they took out an ad in a boating magazine. Hey wee p to catalina island. Jim hawks, tom brought his boat, and they all had this little party. Okay, here we are on catalina island. This is our last trip to the island because we sold the boat, and we are all having a really good time. So, after this last catalina cruise, tom and jackie had told jim hawks and other people that the sale was going to take place in the next few days. So, well see what happens. Hopefully well be all right, but you dont know whats going to happen. Next thing you know is no one could get a hold of them. For them just to shut off their cell phones and drop off the face of the earth is extremely out of character. And when ryan and his brother matt tried calling them and they werent answering, they knew something, something was up. Ryans in arizona, so ryan puts in a call to his uncle, jim hawks, who lives in san diego. He used to be the chief of police for Carlsbad Police department. Jim hawks jumps in his car and gets down there. Don treffin and jim hawks are looking for jackie and tom, so they go to Newport Beach. There, they find the well deserved, but no couple. When we were there we looked for their car. We,en why, looked around a couple of blocks kind of where they would park. Couldnt find the car. The well deserved is there. But toms not around. Jackies not around. Its pretty quickly evident to everybody thats something is amiss. We went over to where the, the dinghy dock. This well deserved dinghy was there. It wasnt properly tied. , it. Just told jim i go, you meths going on my uncle knew something was wrong right away your dad didnt tie the dinghy, your dad didnt put the motor down. We met with carter ford and went out to the boat. From a distance, you probably wouldnt notice too much, but as you get closer, the first thing you notice is the boat was tied, but the lines were hanging, kind of over the side of the boat. As we came up on the boat, i noticed that the tarps were all off, all the controls were kind of peeled back, and there was a towel hanging out one of the portholes. And i got a sick feeling in my stomach just like something wasnt right. Its the next one. You always drive this slow . How did you make someone i love . That must be why youre always so late. I do not speed. And thats saving me cash with drivewise. My son, he did say that you were the safe option. And thats the nicest thing you ever said to me. So get allstate. Stop bossing. Where good drivers save 40 for avoiding mayhem, like me. 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They were a very closeknit family, so if they couldnt be reached over a certain period of time, all kinds of alarm bells went off. Family and friends are already desperate. They start tracing and backtracking their steps to see what might have happened to them. I knew that they might be selling the boat. Thats what they were hoping to do. They believed that they had found a buyer to the boat, that they essentially gotten the price that they wanted. They were excited. They thought, weve got a buyer. Weve got someone. Were going to sell this boat. Jackie had told me that this person was going to be coming back to take a test drive on the boat the next day. Before you sell a vessel, they take a sea trial. They take the vessel out. Its like a test run on a car. The only thing we know about this trip is that it indeed happened. And thats because jackie calls and leaves a message with a dear friend. They bid me goodbye on the phone monday morning. The next thing i heard was a voicemail from jackie, said that were still at sea and ill be in touch with you again. Rocking and rolling on well deserved. She left a voicemail. It basically said that tom and jackie were out at sea with the purchaser and that shed get back to him. So as far as friends and family knew, on november 15, 2004, they were meeting some perspective buyers and they were going to sail out a bit towards catalina island. The sale would likely happen, and jackie and tom would be home with any luck before thanksgiving. Before they disappeared, tom had mentioned to family members that this guy who was a child actor was going to be the buyer. For me, it was a worrisome mystery. I wanted more information. I wanted to know, who is this would be buyer . Jim hawks wants to talk to whoever brought in the well rdand he wteon the back ut a of it, i am a retired Police Officer and id like to speak to whoever bought the boat. Tom and jackie hawks are missing, and i need to chat with you. He leaves his phone number. And the person that contacted him was jennifer deleon. Jims like, look, did you buy the boat . Yep, we sure did. And she is superduper sweet. Jennifer has an explanation. She tells jim that she and her husband skylar bought the boat in cash, in full. Jennifer says, we dont know where the hawks are, and we still want to find out where they are because we still need some information about how to use this boat that we now have. We bought the boat. They drove away. You know, we havent heard from them, and we dont know where they are either. She says, i think they were going to go off to mexico. Locals playing soccer. Oh, and theres a gringo. And thats pretty much it. Shes pretty short on that phone call. Not surprisingly, jim thought this might be a bit suspicious, so he called arizona to one of their friends. Patricia schutz, who they put in charge of essentially paying the bills and taking care of their finances while they were down in mexico because during this time, way harder to deal with that from a foreign country, especially on a boat which may or may not have internet access. Tom and jackie, if they would have sold that boat, they would have deposited that money into their bank account. But there was no activity on their account, so we knew that something was really wrong. Jim hawks, he told me that he was going to contact the Police Department and file a missing persons report friday morning. Most missing persons investigations, the persons found in a very short amount of time. Heres jackie working the email. Its either a lack of communication, or perhaps they went somewhere else they werent expected to. Jim hawks, tom hawks brother, he had already done his homework onceis own. Ing tohi w ed treally shed been a cop a long time. And hes a cops cop. The minute he sees jim hawks and reads the details of this case, he knew this family had reason to worry. This couple, tom and jackie hawks, lived on their yacht and newport, were in the process of selling, or sold the vessel to this other couple, skylar and jennifer deleon. So Newport Police start to digging, looking at skylar and jennifer. And you know what . They find stuff. Troubling stuff. Skylar happens to be a convicted felon. Hes on probation. I go, jeez. So my first indication, okay, well, this doesnt sound good ut a guy gets to the boat, and hes looking around, and he sees this receipt on the floor. The receipt was from target, and it has a bizarre Shopping List on it. The minute detective byington sees that receipt, he knows somethings off. Have moderate e psoriasis, Little Things can be a big deal. Thats why theres otezla. Otezla is not a cream. Its a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. With otezla, 75 clearer skin is achievable. 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His original name at birth was john julius jacobson. When i think of him when i was raising him, i still refer to him sometimes as little johnny. He wanted to make everyone happy. He was just always right there trying to make you smile, trying to make things better. Lisa left skylars father when he was just a little kid. Skylar grew up in a crazy house. How did you grow up . Tell me a little bit about the situation. I pretty much primarily grew up with my dad. And what kind of guy was he . Not the best. Not the best dad. And in fact he was involved with drugs and was frequently in trouble with the law. Yes. Yes. He was into manufacturing speed and pretty much anything that he could make money with. His father got him into acting, but it was never about skylar. You know, he wanted skylar to act so he could make money off of him. Ed are, and action. He never really made it big in the business. He had parts in commercials, and, i think his biggest role was probably as an extra in t rangers. Go go Power Rangers a tv series which was pretty popular in the early 1990s. Now the problem is skylar could never remember his lines. And his dad would yell at him on the set until the producers were basically like, get that guy out of here. Hes really hes upsetting skylar, hes upsetting everyone else. And skylar hated acting. Youre not good enough for this, youre not good enough for that. Why arent you this . Why arent you that . Theres an expectation or a level that you always try to rise up to, but you can never make, no matter how hard you try. Skylar is kind of a weak kid, kind of a little bit of effeminate maybe. Skylars dad pretty much despised him for that and started knocking him around. So, skylar joined the United States marine corps. He probably never would have joined the marines, but for he thought this would make him look like a man. And as much as he hated his dad, he was also always trying to impress his dad. He said he was Marine Corps Force recon, which for those who dont know, is one of the elite military forces in the United States military. He got a Marine Corps Force recon tattoo. And he would explain that he had attended all these classes and done all this training, had 62 confirmed kills. When he got out of the marines he wanted to change his name to Skylar Deleon. On the paperwork it says, doesnt want to be associated by the same name as his father because his father is a bad person and a criminal. It was right before he met jennifer that he changed his name. Jennifer henderson grew up in a way that was the very opposite of how skylar grew up. She had loving parents. They were very religious. They went to church. We actually met online. We just kind of started chatting and then, you know, we went from there to all of a sudden we started talking on the phone and then one day we were like, you know what . We want to meet. So they arrange a rendezvous at a local mall. They go to a movie, they spend the whole day together, and that was it. From that moment on, they were pretty much inseparable. We dated for about a year, and he proposed to me in catalina. We actually had two weddings, a quick one in Corona Del Mar on the beach. Just family, close friends, barefoot, shorts, very casual. It was very fun. And then the big, formal wedding. Who knows why jennifer ends up saying yes to skylar. Theyre so different in so many ways. He grows up this troubled childhood. She grows up with all these advantages. She has a little bit of a profession going for herself. Hes got no career path that we can see. I am a hair stylist. And ive done that for five years. And he was actually working as an electrician. He had the job. He just hadnt started yet. According to jennifers mother, she thinks that they got pregnant on their wedding night, because the timing of it was just so. So, yeah, they had a little girl, hailie. And then they got pregnant again. They really dont have a lot of assets. Jennifer is the breadwinner. They were deep in debt. They owed nearly 90,000. They were so poor that they were living in the garage next to jennifers parents home. They had no bathroom, they had no kitchen. They had to go to the main house for that. They already had a very young daughter, and there was a second baby on the way. You put that all together, wra tese two young peop look at the boat, and they find a bunch of things that are of interest. At its messy. So, tomahawks has not left it that way. And they find a receipt from a target store. And that receipt shows a purchase of trash bags, tums, and bleach. And Dave Byington goes, thats a kill kit if i ever heard one. If i was going to kill somebody, id have my clean kit. And it would be bags to get rid of evidence and bleach to wipe down the scene, and maybe, if i had a conscience, some tums to settle my stomach after killing some poor people. Target security was able to pull up that specific purchase of these items. And theyre expecting it to be skylar. And they know what skylar looks like because hes got a record and hes in the database. But its not skylar. I was looking at an obese man, which was not Skylar Deleon. Now we have another little straw in the camels back saying, okay, who is this guy . And why is this receipt on this boat . Who is this clown . Dear ms, when we first met. I thought youd control every part of me. Overwhelm me. Define me. But i found a way to give myself more space. I met ocrevus, an infusion treatment thats two times a year. For adults with relapsing or primary progressive forms of multiple sclerosis, ocrevus is proven effective in reducing relapses in rms, and slowing disability progression in rms and ppms. 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He immediately says, yeah, my daughter and soninlaw purchased that boat. It turns out jennifer had sent her dad to the store to buy the bleach, the tums and the trash bags. Jens father brings back bleach and some bags. All, they say, to help clean their new boat. So, logically police ask him, does he know where jennifer and skylar are . He says, theyre helping to clean a church right down the street. I think theyre there now. When i see a family volunteering in a church, i was put at ease a little bit with that, thinking, okay, this is going to turn out okay. The hawks are fine. These people will tell us what happened, and well be able to i was talking to jennifer and basically said, were looking for the hawks. The familys very concerned. And she said, were really concerned, too. And she was very genuine. Its like we know those people. Or you dont really know somebody meeting them, but just your nerves kinda go everywhere. She goes, weve been trying to reach out to them continually since we bought it. She said they have a lot of property, clothes and stuff on the vessel. We dont know what to do. So she was very specific and seemed very genuine in her concern for the hawks and finding them. Skylar says, we purchased it. All the documents were proper. They signed them. We recorded them. I dont know what else to tell you. We told skylar that we needed copies of the paperwork. He told us that he had certified, notarized paperwork regarding the sale, so the sale is legitimate. He produces these documents indicating that skylar and jennifer had purchased the boat from tom and jackie hawks. N it there are fingerprints on it. A notary public had already certified these documents that tom and jackie were present when selling. Everything was legitimate. Everything was on the up and up. I was shaking my head going, okay, i still cant get a handle on this guy. The following day, he agreed to go to the Newport Beach Police Department where we had him in a proper interview and recorded the interview. Have a seat, skylar. We are still in the same position we were yesterday. These folks are still missing. Mmhmm. The family is very concerned, and thats very understandable. Skylar was very forthright. He was very, very interested in finding where the hawks were. How did you hear about the the vessel being sold . In the sport fishing magazine. Sport fishing . Yeah. I get it every month. Were you looking to buy a boat . Im pretty much always looking. Uhhuh. It strikes the cops odd that this young guy who doesnt really seem to have a lot of means had nearly 500,000 to buy this boat. We spent like 485,000 on it. Of course, one of the Big Questions is, well, hey, man, whered you get the money . And he goes, look, as you look at my background, youre going to see i was involved in a burglary. In reality, that was a part of a dope rip. That was a drug rip off. No matter what, the truth will come out. No matter what. At this point, i already knew skylar was on probation for armed burglary. So hes a felon. And now he said, im telling you, sergeant, i want to go straight with my family. Im a father now. I have another child on the way. So im trying to invest this money in a way that i can support them. I have a bunch of money that i have no way to spend. Right. And if i bring it here, im going to get in trouble. I cant really go to mexico to spend it because im on probation. Okay. Im kind of in a rock and hard place. I go, so youre legitimizing this money that was illegal, and he copped out basically to Money Laundering. It is rather disarming when youre trying to find the hawks, and hes admitting to the Money Laundering piece on his side. It was unusual that someone would admit that to the police. You could have told me, hey, man, i inherited the money, whatever. You were very honest with me, and that is all im asking for right now. Who would come up with a story that they used money laundered drug money to buy a boat unless it was really true . Skylar is so cool, calm and collected. He said, look, we went out, took the boat for a run. We all came back. We loved the boat. So youve got the money. And do you initiate a call to the hawks . Yeah. I call him up and tell him, hey, you know, im ready, and ask him if it was okay if i came down with my wife. And they said you know, that would be fine. Okay. Where did they meet you . At the little 15th street . Yeah, 15th street. Okay. Transaction allegedly occurred in the parking lot at the 15th street dock, basically on the trunk of a car with a suitcase full of money. And that was cash, right . Yeah. Which you paid him that day . Yeah. I was asking him, what kind of container was this money . Was it loose bills . Was it all hundreds . All hundred dollar bills . Yeah. All hundreds. Pretty much. In stacks about that big. Okay. I just know working narcotics, that it was just a mish mosh of cash. It was never something where youd go to a bank vault and see perfectly stacked thousands of dollars within bank wrappers. So that kind of raised a flag. And you flashed the cash to him . Yeah. Did you still have the briefcase, or did you give it to him, or how did that happen . No, we went to the back of the car, like, here it is. Hes like, close that thing. Skylar was very descriptive on toms reaction when he opened the briefcase and it was full of cash. He was excited but nervous. And did he say anything to that affect, or is this something you got a feeling on . No, he was just like, lets just close this up. According to skylar, tom asked him, is it all here . Skylar kind of giggled at me and said, yep, its all there. And so they basically said, heres the keys to the yacht. Tom and jackie drove off in the honda, and skylar and jennifer said that was the last time that they saw them. He was saying that him and his wife, they were looking at places in san carlos. Uhhuh. Hes like, we want to get another boat. Hey, im the captain of this boat. They were talking about buying a home in mexico, and we corroborated that from other sources. Tom was interested in that. Skylar, you got nothing to do with his disappearance, right . No. And your wife doesnt either . No. Nobody in your family, your dad nobody, right . No. Okay. When you look at the interview, skylar is leaning over to these detectives and he is so convincing. From what i gather from him, i almost guarantee hes down there. Causing you all this grief. Yeah. Ill almost guarantee it. But the detectives have one more key piece of evidence they want skylar to take a look at. Its this video. Video of jennifer and skylar trying to take money out of the hawks account in arizona. Why is it you guys have power of attorney . This is a big stumbling point for the family. 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Im thinking, oh, my god, oh my god. You can have a seat, skylar. Im going to borrow you for a minute because i had to go over a few more questions on this thing. Why is it you guys have power of attorney . The cops think this is weird. I mean, its one thing to sell somebody a boat. Its another thing to give him power of attorney. But skylar, just smooth as silk, tells them, look, they wanted to buy some property up in mexico. You cant finance a house in mexico unless youre a mexican citizen or unless youve established residency and you have a bank account and all of that stuff. Skylar volunteered that hes very experienced in purchasing property there, that he had dual citizenship. He was of mexican descent and that he could facilitate a sale, you know. Since hes giving him such a great deal on the yacht, he would help them out to get this money. And skylar proceeded to tell us that tom was very interested. I said, well, ill help you out. Ill get you an account down there. I told him like, you know, you have nothing to lose by opening up an account, and, you know, you can take care of everything from right there. We talked to friends and family of tom and jackie hawks. Sure enough, tom had been talking to people about buying a little house in the sea of cortez. He literally said, i had a briefcase full of cash. I handed it to tom and he was thrilled. They had the money and the means now to go to mexico and they did. Skylar tells detectives, i got witnesses. Whos present . Me, my wife, daughter, tom, jackie, the notary, and alonso. Alonso machain, his name was there in full print as a witness on this bill of sale. And when i asked skylar, whos Alonso Machain . He says, oh, hes a friend of mine that ive met, and hes from mexico. Well, our investigation shows that alonso happened to meet skylar while skylar was doing jail time. Alonso machain was actually a guard in the jail. And they became fast friends, really. I think machain was quite young. He was in his early 20s, he lived at home with his parents. Skylar was on a work release program, so he was allowed to leave at certain points during the day. During that time, alonso, they would do things that friends would do. They would hang out, they would have pizza, theyd watch tv. Im going to be contacting alonso because hes also one of the last people to see them, so that helps us. Yeah. Thats fine. They go and they interview alonso, and alonso tells essentially the same story where theyre in the parking lot. I watched skylar hand this money over to this guy. They drive out in their car. The other person they interviewed was Kathleen Harris. Kathleen harris, she was a professional notary, never been in trouble a day in her life. And she told a very similar story. They were down there. She watched this transaction, she notarized the documents. We hit a dead end in this investigation. We had a group of people who were all telling the same story. We had no physical evidence of a crime. We had no word from tom and jackie hawks. We had no break in the case at all. Brother, i dont want to keep you here anymore. I appreciate you driving down here. So the cops are at a little bit of a dead end. Theyre not really sure where to go next. And so they do the thing that a lot of investigators are reluctant to do but often is a Necessary Evil they go to the media. Turning to another story in california this morning, police in the southern part of that state are asking for the publics help in a very mysterious disappearance. Joining us from Newport Beach, california, one of the couples two sons, ryan hawks and Sergeant Steve shulman. The biggest thing that we can do as a family was to reach out in the media and find someone maybe willing to talk, someone that maybe seen them, know of their last location, know about their safety. You know, i think somethings wrong. I think somethings missing. I think something is really wrong. But, um, you know, my First Priority is, you know, to find about the whereabouts of my parents. Many times when theres a missing persons case, the family might provide one or two photos of their loved one. But in this case, ryan came out with probably 15 or 20 photos of tom and jackie. So it really showed that this was a family that cared about one another, and that kind of brought the seriousness of their disappearance up quite a bit of a notch. The biggest thing was their car, and if we could find their car, we know we could kind of backtrace their steps or what happened to them. Right now, our focus is on locating them and also the vehicle that they own, this 1998 honda crv with an arizona license plate. T next day, the Police Department gets a call f won o had seen the show, and she basically said, im looking at this car right now. I live in mexico, and im in a trailer park, and its in the parking lot. I was so relieved. I was overwhelmed and choked up. Please be the hawks. 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I treat everybody nice. Im always everything like that. All right, folks, here we go. Quiet please. Five seconds to charlie. Four, three, two turning to another story in california. This morning, police in the southern part of that state are asking for the publics help in a very mysterious disappearance that occurred three weeks ago. Wed been in a dead end for weeks. And we made the decision that we needed to get some Media Attention to the case. And that proves to be a critical turning point. A couple by the name of thomas and jackie hawks told a friend that they were showing their 55foot boat to a prospective buyer. But then the couple simply vanished without a trace. Days later, the boat was found in its usual spot, but the couples car was missing. Were splashing the license plate, the vehicle description, the picture of the hawks everywhere we could. So, its important for the public to look out for that car because that will give us some clue as to where they went to or if in fact there is a crime involved. Sergeant shulman, what do we know about the buyer of this boat, and is there any suspicion attached to them . Well, our detectives are conducting an investigation, and im not at liberty to discuss their interview. What skylar says is, look, i bought the boat from these people, and last i saw was they were leaving the parking lot with a suitcase full of cash that i paid them. He was saying that him and his wife, they were looking at places in san carlos. He was like, well, now i can go down there and get myself a house and get another boat down there. Once the press hit, immediately our tip line started going off. We get a call from a retired couple that lived in san miguel, mexico. And i go, put it on speaker. And this gal says im looking at this car right now. Its right there. She snapped a photograph of it and sent it to us. And here we are looking at the hawks vehicle. Hundreds of miles in ensenada, mexico, another piece of the puzzle has been found. The hawks suv. This was the first break in the case, and they were pretty excited about it. That car was the missing piece we needed to solve the case. And then the next question well, are they there with the car . Were hoping were thinking were going to find them. Please be the hawks. I wanted to find them alive. At first, the family and frengds are friends are thinking, all right, theres a glimmer of hope. Theyre in mexico. The cops make it down to ensenada right away. Mexican authorities were taking the lead, and they knock on the door of the house. The guy who owns the house comes out and starts chatting with them. Theyre speaking in spanish, but im making enough out of whats going on. And the guy says, no, its not my car. It belongs to some friends of mine. And they went, oh, okay. Tom and jackie hawks . No and in english, i heard, Skylar Deleon. And i remember byington just kind of looks at me and just goes skylar murdered these people. And i go and at that moment, then i just said, any possibility that the hawks were still alive died right there, unfortunately. Because, as soon as i heard that i go, no. They called me on their way up. Its like, yep, we got it on the flat bed of a truck. We got it. We caught him in a lie. It was key. It was so essential. The fact that skylar dropped that car off, huge break. Skylar deleon has already told police, i dont know what they realized that Skylar Deleon and jennifer, who is also described, had been down there. They had now witnesses who knew them. And they said, they gave us this car. Skylar had befriended this gentlemans son years earlier. And skylar was an avid surfer and would go down in the surf and would stay with that family. That family had no idea who that car belonged to or the circumstances. I was about 99 sure that my parents were murdered. But i still had 1 hope. But when they found that car, that 1 was wiped out. The same day the hawks car is found down in mexico, Skylar Deleon is back in Newport Beach talking to the police. Skylar shows up, and he brings his little daughter, hailie, with him. I guess hes thinking, you cant arrest me if ive got a toddler with me. This is the big urgency we have right now. These people are still missing. I am i am fearful that they are not alive. Newport detectives wanted to interview him as much as possible, because this story was starting to fray around the edges. Youre saying you have nothing to do with their disappearance . No. You as far as you know, theyre alive . Yeah. And what youve told us so far is the truth regarding you getting money smuggled up here . Hi. Hi. Yeah. And skylar knows immediately, im in trouble. Skylar became nervous, and that little girl, maybe she sensed it. Ive only got. Oh, baby. We got tissues here . The baby spits up all over him, and so it interrupts the interview. Want to leave the bag, or you all right with it . No, im good. There goes sklyar, thinking hes a free man. But not for long. The very next day, skylar is under arrest. Police have arrested 25yearold Skylar Deleon on suspicion of Money Laundering after he bought the couples boat. Prosecutors say the investigation continues. They have not ruled out the possibility there may be more arrests in connection with the murders of thomas and jackie hawks. After a brief break in court, deleon returned tearyeyed. At the time i can remember, in court, he seemed like such a little man. And in his one of the first court hearings, he started crying. And at first, you kind of think, you know, do they have the right guy . The police searched deleons little apartment in the garage, and its a treasure trove of evidence. They go through top to bottom this little garage turned apartment. And what do they find . One of the first things detectives find is tom and jackies laptop. And the most heartbreaking part of all they find a video camera. Well deserved. Whats the name of the next boat . Or whatever. The film that was in it was of all the hawks adventures out at sea, and then it abruptly and suddenly the footage cuts to skylar and jennifer. Skylar and jennifer were using tom and jackies camcorder to record their family thanksgiving. Theres no way tom and jackie would have left that camera behind. I was at their house the night it was searched by Newport Beach pd. And jennifer was just flat line watching the beginning of her life as she knew it come to an end. At that point, i knew that skylar had killed the hawks. What i didnt know was the extent of jennifers involvement. Did you know anything of this alleged crime . 1 in 3 deaths is caused by cardiovascular disease. Millions of patients are treated with statinsbut up to 75 persistent cardiovascular risk still remains. Many have turned to fish oil supplements. Others, fenofibrates or niacin. 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Come to find out, detective bahena had been helping the Ensenada State Police come up here to california because of jon jarvi, who was found with his throat slit. Jon jarvi was a petty counterfeiter, and he met Skylar Deleon while they were both serving time in the seal beach jail. They kept in contact afterwards. Jarvi, after hes freed from jail, keeps in contact with skylar because he remembers being promised a big score. Skylar has told him that hes from a wealthy family and he has big time investments. And he starts telling him, in fact, ive got a really sweet investment that im going to get into. All jon jarvi needs to do is give skylar 50,000 in cash. And then theyll go down mexico, do this big score. Skylar is on this work release program, which allows him to leave during certain parts of the day. They drive down to mexico. Jon jarvi is thinking, you know, im gonna make some great money here. And they drive down to mexico outside of ensenada. Except jon jarvi didnt come back. Skylar takes him down to a ravine, slits his throat and leaves him to die on the side of a road in mexico. There never was any deal in mexico. He took my brother down there with specifically with the role of murdering him. That evening after jarvi disappears, skylars got to hurry back. Not home, mind you to jail. Dont forget, hes still in jail while this is going on so he has to hurry back from the border so he can make his nightly checkin over at the jail. My wife wakes me up, jeff, theyre you got to get up, your brothers been murdered in mexico. Thinking of his last minutes. What they mustve been. Thats what i wake up to every night. When you think of how good of a con man sky llar was to convie this man to take out 50,000 and drive him across the border and then slit his throat and leave him to die on the side of the road, its horrifying. Mexican police had interviewed Skylar Deleon way back in 2003 about the murder of jon jarvi. But that case was totally unresolved until the Newport Beach case came along. I dont think john jarvis homicide would have ever been solved had it not been for our Department Getting involved. Absolutely not. But then police are looking for a break in the hawks case. The other person they interviewed was Kathleen Harris. Kathleen harris had no criminal background at all. She was a professional notary. Never been in trouble a day in her life. Still trying to track that book down. I just talked to them today and theyre still, uh, theyre still looking for it. Kathleen harris was a notary who was introduced to the deleons. She says she was there when skylar bought the boat from the hawks. I drove down to newport met skylar and his wife and, um, the couple. Her story was that tom and jackie hawks had signed these documents in front of her. She watched this transaction, she notarized the documents. It just didnt make sense. Theres no way Kathleen Harris saw tom and jackie hawks. We had to interview Kathleen Harris, i want to say, four or five times and she would not come off her story. And i got there, and i just notarized the documents. Keith and i were having a pretty heated argument about it. I told him, i said, you need to have someone else interview Kathleen Harris. And he goes, fine. You want to interview her . You call her in and interview her. This is come on in. Hi, im keith krallman. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. I just remember trying to confront her to tell the truth. Im asking for your help. I know. Are you part of these peoples disappearance . No. Did you hurt these people that are missing . No. I knew she was lying. I just i knew it, just by her nonverbal, her body language. Theres no doubt in your mind that two people signed these documents in front of you. Right now. See, youre hesitating. No, baloney. This is what im talking about. Listen to me very well. Tell me right now the truth. Those people that are missing signed those documents is what youre telling me. Yes. I dont believe you. You were hesitant to begin with. Tell me the truth, kathleen. I am. She was nervous, her voice was cracking, she was looking down. Kathleen, these people didnt sign these documents in front of you did they . When i filled out the log they have to sign it and put their thumbprints. Okay, and you took their thumbprints. Im 90 sure. No, theres no 90 . Kathleen, theres no 90 . Its either 100 or its nothing. Youre being wishywashy. Yes. They did. Kathleen. Give me a break. I mean, my 4yearold could do better than this. Kathleen, no honestly. I want to know the truth. I want to know the truth. I know and im telling you what happened. She stuck to her story. She didnt come off it, she didnt change it. I remember keith coming out saying, im sorry, and im thinking, are you kidding . I go, i think you pushed her. I think we got her. The next call we got was from an attorney representing her saying that she wanted to come and make a statement. She finally says, no, we were not in the parking lot like i said before. Shed never met tom and jackie hawks. She was given documents and paid in cash to backdate the documents. And that was one of the most significant breaks we had in investigation, because now we knew skylar and jennifer never had that notarized with tom and jackie and that that was false. That was the first domino to fall. Then we started pressuring everybody else then, because we knew everybody else had lied to us, too. You know, likely this case very easily could have never been solved. It could have, like that, just been another unsolved missing persons case except for one thing. Alonzo machain. Hes about to give cops the break they need to bring the convictions they need. Whether your beauty routine is 3or 57,. Make natures bounty hair skin and nails step one. 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Alonso machain was actually a jailer in the seal beach city jail where skylar was serving time for the burglary, so thats how they meet. We focused on alonso because we thought he would be a weak link too. He is going to save his own skin. Hes not going to go down for this. He turned himself in, and Alonso Machain took us detail by detail, through the conspiracy to murder tom and jackie hawks. When i met skylar, he started talking about that he had all this money, that he was a part of the Power Rangers. The chilling details were laid out by one of the people who was on board that yacht and who took part in their murders. He said that he was going to do something, that he was going to make money, a couple million dollar. Skylar tells him that hes an international hitman. He gets his contracts out on people and theyre all on bad people because hell only kill bad people. He wont kill good people. So hes an assassin with a conscience. He said what i do is just take them out to sea and toss them overboard. Skylar promised alonso 1 million dollars. All you had to do is kill this couple and we could get their boat and their savings, and for whatever reason Alonso Machain thought, thats a good idea. Ill go along with it. Alonso and skylar go aboard the well deserved. Tom had worked in probation. He worked with excons. His suspicions immediately went up meeting Skylar Deleon and Alonso Machain because they just didnt seem like the type of guys who could afford to buy a yacht going for more than 400,000. So what does skylar do to solve that problem . He immediately calls jennifer and says, youve got to bring haley down, their 1yearold, and put these people at ease. Jennifer shows up and immediately charms jackie. Jackie, the one who wanted to go and play with her grandson. My stepmother, definitely fell hook, line and sinker, for that woman and her, uh, baby. Thats actually the linchpin in the whole thing. Like, had it not been for that, tom and jackie hawks would still be alive today. At the same time, skylars sizing up tom, and he knows hes going need more help, because he cant overpower him on his own. He started sizing up mr. Hawk, and he said well, i could, i could take him but its better to have somebody else. Skyler realizes if theyre going to actually pull this thing off, they need to get a big guy to sign onto this. Skylar meets john f. Kennedy through a mutual friend who skylar had worked with. John Fitzgerald Kennedy was an original Founding Member of the long beach insane crips. So he became the muscle in this whole scheme. Theyre leaving Newport Beach harbor like theyve done many, many times before. On board is Skylar Deleon, Alonso Machain, and john f. Kennedy. Tom and jackie hawks think theyre just taking this boat out for a test run. They have no idea whats in store for them. A long beach gang member, a seal beach jail security officer, and Skylar Deleon. Weird. So they just leave Newport Harbor and set a course out towards catalina. As theyre heading out, the plan kind of goes into formation. At some point they get jackie and tom separated. Skylar and john kennedy went downstairs with tom hawks. Meanwhile, jackies in the kitchen and she hears this ruckus. And alonso knows, oh, its going down. Its going down right now. That struggle is kennedy overpowering tom hawks. He was able to restrain tom hawks long enough to get him handcuffed. Meanwhile, its alonsos job to subdue jackie hawks. Jackies here. Alonsos here, and then thats where thomas hawks, skylar and jfk are on the bottom, and jackie hears the commotion. She looks down this way and this is where alonso overpowers her. Theyre laid down next to each other on the bed. Jackie was pleading for her life. She was saying, you know, i just want to see my grandson. Jackie is begging. And she says to skylar, how could you do this . How could you do this to us . You brought your pregnant wife on board. We met your daughter. Shes screaming to skylar, we trusted you. Why are you doing this . Mr. And mrs. Hawks tied up together. Tom is stroking her hand, trying to comfort her. This is when hear the part about tom stroking her hand, it occurs down here, to put her at ease. I dont like being down here. Its one of the most poignant things ive ever heard in my career. Its okay, sweetheart, were going to be together. Where were going, were going to be together. Each of them is brought up to sign documents. Essentially turning the boat over to Skylar Deleon and giving him access to their bank accounts. You need to sign this and if you cooperate, well let you go. But theres something very interesting about the way jackie hawks with a s signed her name. Its hawk. Shes smart enough to mess up her signature. She signs it, hawk instead of hawks with an s. She was sending a signal im doing this under duress. And it looked like somebody went back later and put in an s totally inconsistent with any way shed ever signed her name. This is a woman who knows that she is going to her death. This is a woman who knows that shes about to be murdered and she is sending this flare up into the future for somebody to make it right. Meanwhile, skylar, hes up setting the gps to go out to the deepest point in the ocean. Its 3,500 feet. Its the deepest place. Then skylar said he had seen a an anchor. Went to the front and grabbed this huge anchor and brought it back. Put it in the back of the boat. And they handcuffed them to the anchor. And at that point, tom, his fight instinct kicks in. He kicks backwards and he kicked so hard, he kicks skylar in the groin and hard enough that he almost falls over. That was the last act of defiance. Skylar stands up with a smirk, tosses this huge anchor off the side of the boat. The weight of the anchor, it go tight and sud being pulled across the deck. Jackies head knocks into the side. Bo, you can hear it. N out n doo. And they both fell into the ocean. They were very much alive when they were dumped into the ocean. The weight of the anchor pulls them down to the bottom of the deepest part of the sea. Skylar gives out a whoohoo after it happens and then leans overboard and watches until the water becomes still. And thats what happened. How was skylar acting maybe while this was happening . He was calm. It was like it was the most normal thing. And then they actually turn the boat around. Then kennedy found a fishing pole. Decides hes going to fish on the way back to Newport Harbor. Then john f. Kennedy took a beer from the hawks fridge. Takes one of tomahawks beers. No problem, just ended two peoples lives, lets have a beer. Ridiculous. Its hard to believe anybody could do such a terrible crime, especially a guy like mildmannered skylarth w i the . But maybe that wasnt all as wed learned later. 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How confident are you that skylar had nothing do with tom and jackie hawks presumably being murdered or at least missing . I am very confident, as confident as i can be, that skylar will be home soon. What we still dont know is jennifers role. There was a split of opinions within Newport Beach pd. Some thought she was the ice queen and the Second Coming of satan herself, and others thought that she was just the dutiful wife who got caught up in her husbands nefarious dealings. Did you know anything about the crime . No. We extended immunity to jennifer. We said, look, tell us what happened. It was the ultimate offer. It was the get out of jail free card. All she wouldve had to do was testify against her husband. And incredibly, she turned it down. She had a chance to save herself, and she chose to stick by skylar. They almost completed each other. Jennifer and skylar, before they met, hadnt committed any crimes that were aware of, really, as individuals. But when they met, it was like fire and gasoline. And do you have any fear i know its been speculated that they may arrest you. Most definitely. Not knowing if you know, if that is something that happens. To constantly be wondering, you you know, i nurse my son, is this the last time im going to nurse my child . Is this the last time im gonna tuck haley into bed . Its terrifying. 23yearold jennifer just feet behind her 25yearold husband skylar as their attorneys enter their plea. Jennifer deleon is finally arrested, and that is really surprising because she was not on the boat at the time of the murders. And at that point, everybodys wondering, well, how did she play a part . The attorney for jennifer deleon, who just gave birth to her second child several weeks ago, says she wants her tried separately. The first person to go on trial was jennifer deleon. And i think that she was still operating under the belief that she could blame skylar for everything that had happened. Deleons attorney during the trial insisted she did not know what her husband was planning until after the hawks were killed. She only did what she did out of her fear of her husband. The defense for jennifer was that she was not a part of this whole thing. She didnt know what was going to happen. She was forced into it. But as the evidence unfolded, nobody bought that. Everybody knew who was in charge, and it wasnt skylar. How much in charge was jen . I think our probably we had our roles reversed. Was she the brains in the in the family . Yeah. Skylar did not make a move without running it by jennifer. At every significant event during the murder of tom and jackie hawks, he called jennifer. They get down to Newport Beach, he calls jennifer. They get out on the boat, out to sea, he calls jennifer. They get out where they tie tom and jackie hawks to that anchor, begging for their lives the first thing skylar did is called jennifer. She knew exactly what was going on because skylar kept her informed before, during and after the murders. That woman was physically not on the boat during the murders, but she was absolutely on the boat with guidance in spirit. Jennifer was always on skylar for nice things. She wanted to move out. And she put a lot of pressure on skylar to make that happen for her. Well, i mean, she wanted that fairy tale life. Jennifer is seen with a grin on her face as theyre trying to take money out of the hawks accounts after they murdered them. Her whole defense was she was terrified of skylar. She only went along with it because she was afraid that skylar might kill her, too. And she has a gigantic grin on her face. The look of a woman whose financial problems and debt problems were about to be solved. Not somebody thats afraid of the man that shes with. For her to say that she was not involved in any way was an outright lie. Jennifer deleon was convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison. She was convicted of the murders of tom and jackie hawks and received a sentence of life without the possibility of parole. Although her family suffers because shes loved, they will still get a chance to see her, say their last words and say their last thoughts. They will be seeing her through plexiglass. But, you know, to see my parents, i have to look through 3,600 of the cold pacific ocean. So heres the question. Why did they do it . Why did they go after these complete strangers, murdered them so coldly . Was it just for the boat . Was that it . But maybe that wasnt all, as wed learn later. During the investigation, there were some points that came up where skylars gender identity was questioned, that he believes he was transgender. And that was possibly a motive for not only the jarvi homicide, but the hawks homicide, to facilitate payment for his transgender surgery. I interviewed Skylar Deleon in jail in 2009. Just before the interview, skylar was rushed to the hospital after an incident at the jail. He actually tries to cut his own penis off in jail. I basically took a piece of sheet and tied it around my lower extremity and i went to cut it off. Had this been something you had been thinking about for a while . Yeah, for a long time. Tell me about whats behind that. Well, i guess its something that ive always felt like as soon as i can remember i always wanted. To be a woman . Yes. But im not attracted to guys, and but i wanted the surgery. So when you get to jail, did you figure you were never going get the surgery, sow might as well try it yourself . I guess so. Kind of, in a way, i just said, you know what . Ill do it myself. But they got me too quick. So youre still a man. Unfortunately. Skylar deleon had put money down to get a sex change prior to this crime. 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Hes charged with murdering tom and jackie hawks, and also jon jarvi in mexico. Ryan hawks sat just feet away from the man who allegedly murder his father and mother, thomas and jackie hawks for their boat and life savings. I want them to know that im there. I want them to realize, you know, that this is what he took from me, and the rest of my family. Jurors also deciding if deleon killed jon jarvi, prosecutors alleged deleon took 50,000 from jarvi, slit his throat and dumped him in mexico. For us the trial was not about revenge. Its about protecting society from this man to do more damage. To my surprise, when skylars attorney got up, he went to a large flip chart. Stood before jurors and wrote in bold letters, skylar is guilty of all three murders. Because we were going to lose anyway. He was going to get convicted. They had the evidence, and they had somebody who was there confess. If ive tried to mislead them during the guilt phase, then theyre not going to believe me when i get up there to talk about the penalty phase. His defense was that skylar had been abused as a boy. He was abused at the hands of his father. Not only physical abuse, the sexual abuse, the emotional abuse, but the abandonment issues. Everybody in his life basically abandoned him at one time or another. When you think about your childhood, what do you think about it . Pain. I mean, theres lots of times i wished i was dead. I hated my childhood. When skylar was caught biting his nails, john would stick toothpicks up in between his nails into his finger beds because that would teach him. Your dad physically abused you, beat you. Yeah. And then he had a friend who sexually abused you. Yes. So how does that terrible childhood have any relevance to the situation were in today, where three people are murdered at his hands . You try to explain it as best you can who the person is, and hopefully get some sympathy from the jury that might impact on whether they vote to impose the Death Penalty or not. I think the defense attorney did the best he could, but he didnt have much to work with. Theres only one problem with skylars defense. You have to believe him, and hes a proven liar. He is a pathetic figure in a lot of ways. And he has a hard time telling the truth. In my 26year career as a prosecutor, Skylar Deleon is the best liar that ive ever seen. For example, he said he was Marine Corps Force recon. To hear skylar tell it, he was this deadly trained sniper. He was sent to the middle east where he would take care of business for the government. He did join the marines at one point, but even that he wasnt successful at. He left after about a couple of weeks, went awol. You told people you were a sniper. Oh, yes. You werent, but you told people that. Yeah. Give me a little insight on that, skylar. Why would you do those things . I dont know. I guess just trying to impress people i was around, i guess. Skylar seemed happy to talk about his gender surgery, but he didnt want to talk about his murder victims. Jon jarvi. Was he a friend of yours . Acquaintance, i guess. Just somebody i had met at the jail. I mean, i didnt even really know him that good. Did you kill him . I cant go into that. Skylar deleon is one of the most haunting figures ive ever interviewed. How he tied these poor people up on an anchor and threw them off the boat while they were still alive. It was just the worst thing i could ever think of. Should walk away from this program, this interview, knowing only that you coldbloodedly killed three people . No. What else should we know . Personally i dont think im the person that they portrayed 100 . I mean, i think generally a good person with just a really bad decision. For the most part, i mean, im, well, im nice person. I treat everybody nice. What do you want people to know about Skylar Deleon . Get it out there, im sorry, you know, take some things back. Its probably one of the biggest things. Ryan hawk, who is the spokesman of course for the family, the son, told us that your apology is more about you, youre sorry that you got caught. But youre not really sorry about his family, his parents. Well, i would say, you know, im definitely sorry to his parents. I wish i could go back in time, you know, give him back his parents, because now i realize what hes lost. Deleon was convicted of the murders of thomas and jackie hawks. Skylar was convicted of the murder of tom and jackie hawks and also jon jarvi. The jury took two days to find him worthy of being sentenced to death. I dont think there was any surprise. The jury recommended Death Penalty. Thats what they former child actor got. A few months after skylar is convicted, another accomplice, john f. Kennedy he was the muscle hes tried, convicted, and sentenced to death. 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