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He died like a coward. The world is now a much safer place. Brennan mr. Trump detailed the raid and albaghdadis death in graphic terms. I got to watch much of it. He died after running into a dead end tunnel, whimpering and crying and screaming all the way. He had dragged three of his Young Children with him. They were led to certain death. He reached the end of the tunnel, as our dogs chased him down. He ignited his vest, killing himself and the three children. His body was mutilated by the blast, but test results gave certain, immediate, and totally positive identification. It was him. Brennan and Vice President pence is on his way here from an interview across the street. He will be speaking with us, but while we wait, we are lucky to be able to turn now to cbs News National security correspondent david martin. You are here, david, listening with me to the president describe in longer than 45 minutes in graphic detail this raid. He said he was watching it from the situation room happen. What stood out to you . Well, in the first place, we should say one of the headlines is no u. S. Casualties, except the dog who he described went into the tunnel after albaghdadi and was injured by the blast when albaghdadi set off his suicide vest. And then the question was, well, if somebody is going to blow themselves up, how do you identify their remains . He said they had d. N. A. Samples with them and were able to make a match within 15 minutes of albaghdadi blowing himself up, and then they collected all the body parts and brought them out with them along with some unspecified number of prisoners who had surrendered. And he gave some idea of the scope of this operation. He said, all told it took about four and a half hours, an hour and ten minutes in, two hours on the ground, an hour and ten minutes out. Brennan we dont know where it was launched from. We dont. Were going to have to do some backtracking to see where you can get from in an hour and ten minutes. But this was a large force, eight helicopters to just put it in perspective. The force that went into bin bin lade compound two helicopt5 ners, 2y seals. They had some others in reserve, but this sounded like it was a bigger operation and one which had been in the works for a number of weeks. He said they had somehow found out his travel schedule but that one of albaghdadis security procedures is to change his mind about where hes going next at at the last member. But he went to this one place, and the president said they were able to confirm that he was there, gave a launch, and it took off shortly after 5 00 p. M. Yesterday. Brennan the president was narrating it in such detail it was almost movie like in his description. But as he described baghdadi, he talked about the others in the room, including many new members of his National Security team. He also did acknowledge the c. I. A. Director who was key to so much of. This you learned it was Delta Force Commandos who told this out. Thats what ive learned. Brennan the president didnt reveal that detail in his remarks. The army equivalent to the navy seals. I havent had anybody tell me. This i would imagine there was small group of delta force that would go into the compound, the compound would be surrounded by a larger group of probably army rangers providing security to keep anybody from coming to the compound. Brennan david martin, you have been busy reporting. Thank you very much for joining us. We doant to take a closer look at Abu Bakr Albaghdadi, who he was, why he was such a highvalue target. He was not only the leader of isis, he was blamed for that rea fnd followers allve. Around the world. Foreign correspondent Holly Williams has more on who he was. Reporter he proclaimed himself the caliph or leader of the socalled islamic state, but in reality Abu Bakr Albaghdadi was a hate preacher who presided over a death cult of utter barrty. With a 25 million reward offered by the u. S. , he was rarely captured on camera. This video released in april was his first appearance in five years and apparently hi last. Its thought he was born in iraq in 1971. After the u. S. Invasion of iraq in 2003, baghdadi was detained in a prison camp that became an incubator for justice departmenties. When he was released, he join al qaedas offshoot in iraq, rising to become its leader. He later proved into the chaos of syrias civil war and split from al qaeda. At its peang, isis ruled over an estimated 10 Million People in iraq and syria. The loss of their last group of territory in march, and new bad daddy wont be the end of their ideology. Brennan thats cbs news Foreign Correspondent Holly Williams who now joins us from istanbul, turkey, this morning. Holly, the president describes baghdadi as the numberone terrorist in the world. Does removing him from the battlefield actuly kill isis itself . Reporter , no it wont, margaret. I mean, for isis, this is a very significant and symbolic loss of their socalled caliph. It shows the u. S. Will spare no effort in hunting down the leaders of terrorist organizations, but in the end, isis is not about one man. Its the expression of an ideology. Its not the first terrorist group of this type, and it certainly wont be the last. Albaghdadi and isis were particularly blood firsty and by setting up a socalled caliphate, by seizing land and territory, holding on to it for a while, and implementing their investigation of islamic law. With other jihadist group, when they have lost their leaders, they very quickly replace them. I think we will see that happen here. One potential successor is a character named abu abdel la kardash. He apparently spent time in a prison camp involving the u. S. Invasion in 2003. Brennan holly, he is, as you say, a symbolic loss, but since you spent so much time on the ground inside of syria, what is the state of isis today . Reporter margaret, you heard President Trump say we obliterated his cal fate, and thats true in the sense that isis lost its last remaining group of territory back in march, but the pentagons own watchdog said in august that isis still has between 14,000 and 18,000 members in iraq and syria, and Kurdish Forces in Eastern Syria are saying they say around 12,000 accused isis fighters in their prison. We spoke with a u. S. General in syria just last month, and he described those prisoners as a contained fighting force. So, yes, i has lost all of its territory now in syria and iraq, but, no, it is not a spent force. Brennan Holly Williams there reporting from istanbul. Thank you. And joining us now here in studio with more details of the raid is Vice President mike pence. Good morning to you, mr. Vice president. Morning, margaret. Brennan you were in the situation room watching this as it happened. I was. Brennan tell me about the decision behind when was it made . Who made it . Well, first let me just say this is a great day for america. Albaghdadi, the most wanted man in the world is dead, and its a tribute to the courage of our armed forces, special forces that executed the raid on the compound last night, but its also a tribute to the decisiveness of president donald trump. We first received information early in the week about the possibility of his location. Brennan through the c. I. A. . Through our intelligence agencies that the president rightly commended today through a combination of intelligence, surveillance surveillance, reconnaissance. We believed we knew where he would be. By thursday afternoon the president and i were informed that there was a high probability he would be at the compound in idlib province. The president immediately directed our commanders to develop military options. Those were presented to the president at the white house on friday morning, but it was saturday morning that we received the actionable intelligence that allowed the decision that the president had made to move forward to happen. And it is it was incredible to be in the situation room and to see this unfold in realtime as our special forces were on the ground, to see their professionalism over a period of two hours. But america and the world are safer today with the leader of isis dead. Brennan according to u. S. Intelligence, isis has about eight branches. It had that battleground it has lost in iraq and syria, but it has a significant force in afghanistan and inspiration all around the world. So what impact will taking out baghdadi have on the rest of those tentacles . Well, as the president said today, what the United States demonstrated, this president , this country will be unrelenting in our fight against isis or any terrorist organization that threatens this country. Brennan what does that mean for the drawdown of u. S. Forces from columbia . Has iraq agreed to host the majority of the presence being pulled out of syria . We have a military presence in iraq. We have an ongoing military presence in parts of syria, but to be clear, you know, the president looked at the deployment of American Forces in between traditionally kurdish syria and the turkish border, and essentially believed that that was not the right place for our forces to be. American forces went into syria, worked with our Syrian Kurdish allies to destroy the isis caliphate. The last inch of territory the isis caliphate was captured in march, and the president looked at the circumstances, where we had American Forces essentially providing a safe zone patrol on the turkish border. That was not the mission. I have to tell you, as the father of a United States marine, i couldnt be more grateful that we have a commanderinchief that is always asking about whether or not American Forces have to be in harms way. And if theyre not on a mission, isis, the caliphate had been destroyed, the president said, well bring them home, but last night, the president of the United States proved to the world that our fight against isis is unrelenting, and by killing the leader of isis, the active operational leader of isis who it was reported two weeks ago was giving orders to isis fighters in syria, we believe well have a measurable impact on the effectiveness of that terrorist organization, but were not going to let up, were not going to stop the fight, and at the same time, well continue to work with our allies to establish that safe zone between kurdish syria and turkey that the president had myself and secretary of state mike pompeo negotiate in ankara just a week ago. Brennan but do i understand what youre saying is that the number of u. S. Troops remaining in syria is still being determined . You havent locked in at a number yet . Well, we have troops, and the president has made it clear we will have forces to secure the oil fields in Northern Syria in order to then create a collaborative relationship on that brennan more than 200 roughly . With our kurdishsyrian allies. This operation last night was real testament to the relationship weve formed with Syrian Democratic forces, who i cant detail, but played a role in this in terms of information that we were provided. Turkeys cooperation during the assault last night was acknowledged today by the president. They fully cooperated with the deployment of special force, but all the credit goes here to the decisiveness of this commanderinchief and to the courage and professionalism of the special forces of the United States. We literally watched in realtime, margaret, as those helicopters set down, as they assaulted the compound, and we heard those words that albaghdadi had been killed, and i knew fromha moment america was safer as a result. Brennan mr. Vice president , i also want to ask you while youre here, you have been clear in saying there was no pressure put on ukraine, no quid quo pro as it pertains to what is now being looked at for grounds of potential impeachment of the president. But we have had at least four u. S. Officials under oath say that they had knowledge of a deal being offered that made military aid and a meeting with a president con the unjet on opening a investigation that relates to the company joe bidens son served on the board of. Are they all lying . I can only tell you what i know. And what i know is that the transcript of the president s call with president zelensky shows there was no quid quo pro. He did nothing wrong. Brennan but were you aware of that deal that they i can also say in all of my interactions with president zelensky, we focused entirely on president zelenskys agenda to bring about reforms to end corruption in ukrainendo bring together the European Community to provide greater support for ukraine. President zelensky said there was no pressure. We had a good meeting when the president had to cancel to stay home for a hurricane, and i met president zelensky. The aid was released after that meeting. And brennan but did you have knowledge that the deal that these u. S. Officials have described under oath . What i can tell you is all of my interaction on this issue with the president of the United States and president zelensky focused entirely on three things number one, the United States of americas support for ukraine following the russian invasion of crimea and the war that russia has been fomenting there. We actually this administration, different from the last one, have provided lethal weapons for ukraine. Brennan but these officials did you have knowledge of what theyre describing or no . We stood with them to restore their sovereignty and territorial integrity. Number two, president zelensky was elected in an historic landslide on an agenda to end corruption in ukraine. An we very much wanted to understand the progress on that. And thirdly, President Trump believed that it was time for the European Community to step up. Those are the issues we made clear to president zelensky and ukraine, and i think as the facts continue to come out, the American People again will see that in the president s transcript, my interaction, there was no quid quo pro, there was no pressure, it was entirely focused on i havent got an clear answer from you on that. I do have to leave the interview from there. But are you saying you did not ever hear of such a deal . Is that what i understand youre describing . Im telling you that all of my interactions with the president , all of my conversations with president zelensky were entirely focused on the issue of importance to the American People, ending corruption and listening to european support, in supporting ukraine in a way that would restore its territorial integrity and stand by ukraine for its sovereignty. Mr. Vice president , thank you very much. I appreciate you joining us. Thank you, margaret. Great day for america. Well be back with in one minute with former ambassador to the u. S. Susan rice. No two patients are the same. Predicting the next step for them can be challenging. Today were using the ibm cloud to run new analytics tools that help us better predict and plan a patients recovery. Ultimately, its helping thousands of patients return home. And who doesnt love going home. count time for one chore [thunder crashing], ah ahh my mower burke the number one. Seen it, covered it. At farmers insurance, we know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. bert mmm. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum but one blows them all out of the water. Hydro boost with hyaluronic acid to plump skin cells so it bounces back. Neutrogena® and for body. Hydro boost body gel cream. Brennan we are back now with president obamas forkballer National Security adviser and u. N. Ambassador susan rice. She had planned to join us to tell us about her new book tough love my story of the things worth fighting for, but it is such tremendous news this morning. Madam ambassador, thank you for joining us. You weret of the administration at the moment the u. S. First took military action against isis. What is your reaction to the death of albaghdadi . Obviously its a major milestone and its one we all should be welcoming quite plainly, but it doesnt mean that the fight against isis is over. And it doesnt mean that we can declare Mission Accomplished and just walk away. What weve seen time and time again in this part of the world is that when the pressure is relieved on terrorist organizations, whether al qaeda or isis, they are able to reconstitute. So we need to be vigilant. We need to maintain a minimal presence in orderensure that the pressure stays on isis and they dont come back roaring. Brennan it is pouring rain out there right behind you. I was just standing in the pouring rain. Brennan well, i appreciate your bravery coming out. Were on the roof of jones day here in washington, bringing you face the nation. But back to the issue at hand, do you know, was president obama informed of the death of albaghdadi by the administration . Did you know before the news today . No, theres no reason why i should no. There is a tradition of common courtesy of president s informing their predecessors of things of significance like this. Since the white house seemingly didnt feel it necessarily to inform the leadership of the intelligence committees on a bipartisan basis, im quite confident they didnt do the normal protocol with respect to predecessors either. Brennan during the Obama Administration when say Osama Bin Laden was taken off the field as matter of courtesy. Brennan as a matter of courtesy. Well, you write in your book about the rise of isis, and that in 2014 when they took the city of mosul in iraq, that it took the Intelligence Community by surprise. It took policymakers by surprise. It was underestimation of how weak the Iraqi Government was and just that isis could use the battlefield thway they did as effectively as they did. Are you saying you see the risk now with the drawback in syria, that it appears is still happening, of creating the same kind of vacuum . We have learned in afghanistan, in iraq, and now in syria, repeatedly, that you cant take the pressure off and expect these groups not to reconstitute. They may come back with a different name and a different leader, but the ideology remains and the ambition remains. And so, yes, i think its very concerning that President Trump made the decision a couple of weeks ago to withdraw our forces from Northern Syria, leave the kurds exposed essentially, enable the turks to come in from the north and wipe them out of their traditional homeland and the russians to come up from the south and claim territory that had been denied to them by our president s and by that of the kurds. I think this is still very dangerous. We have isis that can come back even with new leadership, and we have over 100 isis prisoners already that have escaped according to the secretary of defense. And this has been a decision that seemingly was taken without consultation by the president with his closest advisers, and its been hugely beneficial, not only to isis, but also to russia, robb, and, of course, assad, as well as turkey. Brennan thats why i was pressing the Vice President for the detail on the number of forces left in syria, because it doesnt seem we have that granular decision making. And this motion that somehow were moving handful of forces out of syria to send them home, do the American People understand that since may, President Trump has deployed 14,000 additional u. S. Forces to saudi arabia and the gulf at a time when hes saying he wants to take the United States out of the middle east. This is not on the level. Brennan i want to ask you about something you write about in the book, you know, the public may remember in the wake of the attacks in benghazi that you were the person put forward by the Obama Administration to explain what happened. On that first sunday. Brennan on that first sunday on shows like this one. You say, obviously that had tremendous political blowback for you professionally, but you reveal for the first time some really personal blowback. Your daughter had to seek medical help because of what happened. I describe in the book how my nineyearold daughter at the time, after some weeks of this very public and sustained pill loring of me, started having what can only be described as hallucinations. Of course her father and i were terrified. She was seeing men coming out of walls at her. We took her to be evaluated. The doctors at Childrens Hospital here in washington were looking a is this psycho kiss, a brain tumor, skits friend, yeah a vision problem. Thankfully, after several weeks they were able to rule all of that and determine it was a stress reaction the hearing through the television what i was enduring. 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