Transcripts For KQED PBS NewsHour 20240711

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I think if every Health Care Worker realized how transparent and independent the process is, they would feel much more comfortable about getting vaccinated. Woodruff well rto the vaccine story, right after thery news sum u. S. Attorney general william barr has dea a fresh blow to President Trumps claims of widespread election fraud. Barr told the sociated press today that, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a diffent outcome in the election. Meanwhile, the president sued to disqualify 221,000 ballots in wisconsin, which already certified a win for president elect biden. The Biden Economic team was introduced today. Leading the list is janet yellen, former chair of the Federal Reserve, for treasury secretary. She called for urgent new action to address economic damage done by the pandemic. Well look at all of this, later in the program. Get Economic Relief moving in the lameduck congrea. Partisan group of senators pitched a 900 billion proposal. But, both Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell and minority leader Chuck Schumer insisted that th other side give ground. We just dont have time toe wame. We have a couple of weeks lefthe. Obously it does require bipartisan support to get out oe co, but it requires a president ial signature. He knows darn welhouse is democratic majority. Ed he knows he democratic votes in the senate since a number of his people wont vote for any proposal. And yet he connues to negotiate in a partisan way. Woodruff schumer and house wneaker nancy pelosi sent a new version of theirroposal to mcconnell last night. In brazil, a criminal gang carried out a brazen attack on a city overnht. Police say at least 30 gunmen armed with assault rifles invaded criciuma, taking over streets and assaulting a bank. Thtakeover lasted about two hours. Theres no word on how much money was stolen. Su china says iessfully landed an unmanned craft on the moon today. Chinesesupplied animation showed the probe leaving orbit and landing. Ea its to collect rocks and soil and return to earth. Only two nations, the u. S. And soviet union, have ever brought back material from the moon. Back in this country, the u. S. Er soccer fion and the Womens National team reached a settlement on working conditions. It calls for charter flights, Hotel Accommodations and onal Staff Support thats on a par with the Mens National team. Pu an ongoing d over equal pay was left to further ittigation. And, wall streetew highs today on hop that covid vaccines will boost economic recovery. The dojones industrial average gained 185 points to close near 28,824. The nasdaq rose 156 points, to , record finnd, the s p 500 added 40, also reaching a new high. Still to come on the newour breaking down who will get the first covid vaccines. What president elect bidens picks say abt how they will tackle an economic recovery. How the pandemic is forcing more millennials to move back home with their parents. And much more. Woodruff the recommendationa late today by the c. D. C. Advisory committee about whom g shou the earliest doses of a covid vaccines kick off a t e coming weeks. Ions in todays vote is nding. But it is expected to influence how states make their ow decisions about distributing the vaccine. There are many tough questions ahead. Re amna nawaz expsome of them. Nawaz judy, the committee did indeed say 24 Million People, healthcare personnel and Older Americans living in Nursing Homes anesother facilishould receive the first doses of a vaccine. Ut but even distrg those early doses will take more time than people may think. C. D. C. Officials say there will only be enough doses to vaccinate between two and five Million People a week initially. Determining who gets priority after that initial wave is even more complicated. This all comes as nearly 37,000 americans died of covid19 last month, the most in any month since the early days of the pandemic. Doctor paul offitt, who is a member of f. D. A. Advisory committee on vaccines, is he is director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Childrens Hospital ofel philia. Dr. Offitt, welcome back to the newshour. When we look at the 24 Million People who have been given thegh t priority, thats still a lot of people and they cant be vaccinated aevl at once. Within that group, how do you decide who gets it first and who makes that cal . Its going to be hard. I know at our hospital were trying to prioritize among the healthcare workers, which are most at risk. E, thor example, in the Emergency Department who are constantly coming into contact wth childo potentially are excreting this virus. So it willbe a challenge. The hardest part is initially we available, which is 20 Million People. Of the 24 million in jufit the t group, then we have to go to the second and third and fourth gup before we get to the general population. Were not quite there yet. Were still in the science by press release moment here. These phase three trials, the large trials by pfizer and moderna havent been published yet. The f. D. A. And the Advisory Committee to the c. D. C. Needs to approve this, i think that will happen in december, and then these vaccines willstart rolling out. Whats hardest is, obviously, this virus has killed more than 260,000 people this year, the next couple of months will be enough to vaccinate everybody. We dont. It will be a limited addition vaccine and that will make it very valuable. Nawazkpeople tal about classified that da way byheirs state or municipality and youre talking about millions moreop. 87 million americans qualify as essential workers and that includes police, firefighters, education workers, food service, agriculture workers, transportation and waste workers. Dr. Offitt, when you look at the next potential tranche of people, 87 million more, two to five doses a week, how long ar we talking about just to get through the highest priority groups . The hardest part is making the vaccine, getting it out there and making sure people are getting a twodose vaccine. You get the first dose and make sure you come back three weeks late tore get the second dose. One to have the vaccines has in that itas to be shipped and stored minus 70ntdegree rade which means dry ice. It then can go into the o refrigeraty a day or two, and then you only have about six hours to give it and it comes in multidose vials. Theres many challenges for this much needed product. This is our way out of this mess. This is a product that could save our lives. I justish we hd enough all a the beginning and we dont. Nawaz you menoned the challenges, one is trust in the vaccine. When you look at the latest numbers of whether or not Americans Trust the vaccine and say theyll get it, gallup conducted a recent poll at the end of october and asked people about it and 58 saired the willing to get the vaccine. That number is slightly up. 42 of american adlts say they will not get the vaccine. That a significant number of people youre talking about. How much of a challenge are you talking about when youre talking out getting to the light at the end to have the pandemic tunnel. The poll was conducted in october. Were asking that you get a th tretical vaccine becau vaccine wasnt in existence yet. Topline data it appears to be 9d 5 effective, that it appears tas perfective in people over 60 and 90 to 100 effecve in preventing severe disease. When you ask people the questioh way, then how will theyer an the pfizer trials, 44,000 first trial, moderna 30,000 firs trial. Thats as big as any pediatric vaccine trial. That the length of time in which youre seeing effectiveness is relativen short. You ly say its effective for a few months. You cant say necessarily its b going highly effective six later. Or a year or two yea on the other hand, youre not going to do two or threeyear trials with these vaccines when a quart million peodyple arng per year. Its not exactly a leap to believe something is 95 effective after two or three months, its heil likely to be effective six months or a year later. Nawaz briefly, how many people are we looking at need to be vccinated, these need get this vaccine before we can consider ourselves at a safe level of immunity . I would imagine twothirds of the American Population would need to be vaccinated before we say comfortably weve stopped the spread of this virus. Allllight, weollow in the weeks ahead. Good news for people. Dr. Paul ofitt of Childrens Hospital of phk adelphia. Thu for your time. Thank you. Woodruff now, to president elect joe bidens rollout today of his teaof economic advisers. They come with a new agenda thats intended to make a sharp break with the trump years. Lisa desjardins reports. Desjardins the president elect slowly made his way into wilmingtons queen theater, wearing a walking boot after he fractured his fo playing with his dog over the weekend. But inside, he said hes moving ahead full speed on the nations economic troubles. I know times are tough, but i want you to know that help is on the way. Desjardins at the tableske around him, hiEconomic Team and a theme repeated by each, to not just regain a full economy, but to tackle einequality and make it m fair. We can build a new American Economy that works for all americans, not just some. All. We need to act now though. In desja its a team of policy heavyweights former Federal Reserve chair janet yellen to serve as treasury secretary; neera tanden, the president and c. E. O. Of the f cent american progress, a liberal think tank, to lead thea office of ment and budget; and, labor economist cecelia rouse to chair the president s council ofconomic advisers. We will be an institution that wakes up every morning thinking about you. Your jobs, your paychecks, yr struggles, your hopes, your dignity, and your limitlessl. Potent desjardins if confirmed, neera tanden would be the first womaof color to be o. M. B. Director. She reflected on being raised by a single mother, an immigrant from india. I am here today because of social programs, because of budgetary choices. B desjardin tandens become a lightning rod for some republicans, like arkansasm senator tocotton, who say she has been a partisan, divisive figure. I think neera tandems nomination, like so ma of the nominations joe biden has made, show that he is not committed to unifying the country. Desjardins among the other biden selections princeton deae lia rouse would be the first African American to lead the council of economic advisers. This is a moment of urgency and opportunity, unlike anye weced in modern times. Desjardins nigerianborn attorney and political advisor wally adeyemo, who worked with biden when he was Vice President to serve as deputy treasury secretary. Longtime biden advisor Jared Bernstein would serve on theun l of economic advisers, boushey, the presint, c. E. O. , and cofouer of the Washington Center for equitableh. President trump continues to fight, suing wisconsin to try and throw out 221,000 ballots in two heavily democratic counties. He repeated baseless claims of voter fraud, this thme day as attorney general william barr said there is no evito support those claims. Woodruff and lisa joins from wilmington, delaware, and Yamiche Alcindor is here in washington. Hello to both of you. So, lisa, picking up on that, now that weve seeen th Economic Team that joe biden wants advising him, what does thas tellout what they want to do now and once theyre in office . Well, this is a team that faces unprecedented double crises and rarely a new president taking over with them at the sme. However, this team is also unique in that the president who is elected, will be their leader, has had many plans in the works for a long time. Ght off the bat, judy, we know this team is working on aarger plan, bigger stimulus, bigger covid relief coming next year, in ahition to what tey hope will be perhaps relief coming in the next few months, and i think we see in this am some of th hints of how they hope to get this done, and i think what ll see from more ben announcements, this is a team of expericed people, they are diverse and known for doing the hard work of policy. Also what i noticed todaythey e disciplined and very coordinated right down to the masks, each one wearing the exact same mask that was hat nd them beforehand. Theyre also coordinated in another goal, trying to not just respond to the economic crisis, but to try and smore than one problem at once. Listen to the coordination on these talking points. We heard from yllen shes concerned about the disproportionate impact ofishe , from tannedden, she wants a fair shot from american workers, frm adiamo, he wants to reduce inequality. R biden is vy aggressive in signaling he is concerned about inequality in america. He wants whatever plan theyome up to address the crisis to scwawrl tackle inequality and perhaps Climate Change as im told by some who are working with him that thats something wepaould also see a of their plan. Ite other thing, judy, that they have to continueh, of course, is congress and whether or not any immediate relief will come out. As we reported earlier, this is a tricky situation for a newt, presidoesnt want to spend any capital before he comes into office, but they also would like to have soe kind of stimulus moving now. I want to als add saker pelosi sent out a statement late today saying inrestingly enough that she says there must be some covid reef passed in this lame duck session of congress, thats the next two weeks. So we sees both es at least acknowledging they need to do something, whether they will is weve heard it before. Time. See if its real this lisa, thank you. Earlier, the attorney generaled bill barr said today in an interview the department of justice has found no widespread evidence of fraud that would change the ou of the election. G w is the president , how is his campaign respond this . Well, attorney general william barr has really angered the president s campaign as well as allies of President Trump mply by telling the truth, and that truth being that the election was not full ay sort of voter fraud that would have tipped the scales and changed the outcome, thus lending credibility to president elect biden is in fact the projected winner and President Trump is in fact the projected loser. Who are close to the president all day about this, they say they think attorne general william barr is a total failures and s a complete betrayal on his part talking to the Associated Press in that interview william barr told the Associated Press that some see the department of justice as a fixitall. Fahe was hinting at tht that people want to look at the courts and the criminal justiceu system that verturn this for President Trump and try to do that. Attorney general bill barr is making it clear hes not goi do that. As this goes on, the rhetoric is getting more tense from the Trump Campaign. We heard yesterday a Trump Campaign lawyer sug christopher krebs, the former u. S. Head of Election Security that preside trump fired, th he should be shot, judy. He said those words and now christopher creb says hes all of this is hang as a republican official in georgia tonight is saying someone is ing to get killed. We need you, President Trump, to really low down t rhetoric, calling out to the president. The president has not done that as of yet. Another thing to note, as all of this is happening, the president has continued to fund raise for this election defense fund. Hes raised at least sources. Lion, were told by so as the president is dealing with all of this, hes continuing to get supporters toe give him for what is really now a longshot bid to try to win back ne electn some way. Woodruff so disturbing, those reports about theia potefor threats and for loss of life, reabilly dist. Yamiche alcindor, lisa desjardins, we thank you both. Woouff while president elect joe biden won a decisive victory in this years president ial election, down ballot democrats across the country struggled to hold on to se8. S they narrowly won in 2 representative dna shalala, a democratic congresswoman from south florida, was among those who lost. She joins me now. Congresswoman swlal shalala, thank you for joining us. You ere one ofhe firstterm democrats who are defeated. What happened and how much of it was republicans targeting latino votes for . First of all, my district is 70 latino, so, yes, republicans did targ latino voters, but not just for this election, they have been doing it for four years. And in an offyear election, ige was able t elected. This year, with the president ial, with donald trump running so strongly here in orida, it did make a difference. They had a tremendous tornout. They had a grund game that was up believable. They turned out 85 of their we turned out 75 . I lost by 2 . At made afe difnce. And then, of course, what everybody is talking about, the socialist attacks. But it was a combination of things. Politics. Ry complex, miami its anything rag wans and venezuelans and cubans, and they keep their ties to their country. Theyre very different from other s atinos in other pa the country. Down here we say hispanics, and the politics are complex, but trump and his administration worked them forur years and, so, overcoming that took a lot more than we had. Woodruff is there a lesson, then, for democrats . Because it wasnt only the targeting of the latino vote, i was also the charge that democrats were socialists, even communists. What happened when you had that thrown at you, and do you think theres a better way to respond to it . F urse theres a better way to respond because whatever we did did not work as wel in my first election, i laughed it off because i hd created many jobs in the community, and i was clearly a capitalist. Im a centrist. I fit right into this district. Woodruff if thats the case, then what could democrats be saying to respond to at . Well, we can demonstrate ovea and ovin that were the party thats going to rebuild,t the econohat were the party thats going to create fair jobs. Listen, we passed a 15 an hourr resolutione in the state, and thsands and millions of people voted for it. So fair wages, rebuilding the economy, getting control of covid, thats what joe biden will be doing in the net few months, and well be able to demonstrate that were the party jobs, of fair jobs. Party of good woodruff and do you thi thats an argument that will work . Coming up in 2022, theresce already co about how democrats will do in theouse of representativesdefending seats that they now hold. What lesson should democrats learn from this year . T that we have toave a ground game, that we have to go back to some oldfashioned r. Litics, go door to doo we avoided going door to door because of covid. Ou well be bacthere building precinct by precinct, making sure we ddminate social mia, and that our messages are very clear, but well he a rec to run on, and i believe well be able to hold the house and regain some of the seats, including my district. Woodruff do you think democrats were too cautious in avoiding going door to door,g meetople directly, as President Trump and the republicans di . You know, i cant say that because we folled the science, we were being careful for the people in ourmu comty. Do i wish we had had more of a ground game . Yes, there no question about it, but the reason we lost had a lot to do with turnoff turnouts by republicans,es, huge energized to vote with donald trump and down ballotns deates that. It wasnt just message, it was very complex, and every districi isferent. Woodruff and do you have a sense, findwall congresswoman shalala, of how hard its goingb for joe biden to govern with this kind of enhusiasm out there for donald trump this year . Surely its going to be difficult, particularly if we cnt regain some trol over the senate. The senate has just stopped working, waiting for donald trump to put thumbs up before theyll pass anything. So, yes it will be difficult, but joe biden has a working class economicteam. Were going to bring the economy these people that think peopleof are wrong that theres going to be a large group of people that arent going to take up the vaccine. Economics trumps, business trryps eving and, at the end of the day, people want their jobs back, and theyren going to rund get that vaccine as fast as they can to get immunized so they can go back to work, and none of this nonsense that there are large groups of people that arent going to do it. Woodruff congresswoman Donna Shalala joininonight on the newshour. Thank you very much. Youre welcome. Woodruff the pandemic has accelerated a change in housing in this country that began well before covid19 spread. Millennials, adults between the ages of 24 and 39, continue to move back home in siificant numbers. For some, its by chce. But for many, its a matter of necessity. Rampell, a columnist for theine washington post, has ourre rt. I was an ugly child. People would tell myom that my sister should be a model liket ri front of me. And then id emerge from behind my momsegs like nosferatu what should i be . Reporter at the start of 2020, comedian nikki glaser was riding high a racy nel, speciaational tour, tv shows in development. Everything started shutting down. And i was like, ill just go back to st. Louis for a week o so, you know reporter seven months later. Im a 36 year old woman who is living with her parents and theres no end in sight. Reporter little did nikki glaser know back in march that shed be a poster child for her generations response to the pandemic young adults moving back home with their parents. This the highest its ever been, stretching back to 1900 in the historical record. R reporconomist richard fry just cowrote a study showing that a majority of yound ts are now living with their parents, though the share had been rising for a while. Many of us expected that it was going to peak and begin to decline after the great recession. That d not occur. It continued to rise. And now it has sharply accelerated again in the space of, you know, five months. Reporter millions of millennials have moved back home. Many, like eric rivera, lost their jobs his, in public relations. I got laid off kind of the weekend before shelter in place ppened. Reporter goodbye pricey williamsburg, brooklyn. Hellrentfree Hamilton Township new jersey. Yes, im back in my childhood bedroom. Its no longer lime green so i very happy about that. Te rep others, like whitney conkling, hoped to save money on not just rent but childcare. She, husband Scott Oldebeken and baby oliver are back home with her folks in houston. They were supposed to send their last child offllege and enjoy the pty nesting life. Yeah. Theyve inherited three more of us. Reporter Management Consultant molly le, working from home, fled the then epicenter of the pandemic for somewhere with room to roam her parents house in north carolina. Its way better than my new york shoe box apartment. Repter jon benitez, working remotely for a nonprofit, moved back to his chdhood home in the quintessential suburb, levittown new york, partly to help his parents. Because of the economy, my parents havent been working. I was helping with the h grocerieping with any expenditures the family had. Reporter and some just had more personal reasons. Theres something really about is time that makes you want to be with people you love and who love you unconditionally. And for me, thats just my parents. Reporter but even this big star had some financial motives for heading home. Theres been a lot of things that have just stopped in their tracks. And that got you know, c. I just signed a lease march 1st york. Enartment in new ive paid fullfor a really expensive place that i never for this whole yeaor even once rr Marcellus Adams never even got a chance to sign his lease. Exce for college, hes lived with his parents his whole life. I did not want to leave and thy, come back and be like, well, im back. Reporter butecently hed been saving up, working two jobs one in a hospital emergency room, the other as an auto mechanic. He found possible roommate, and had been planning to move out in the spring. Then his hospital hours were cut and his mechanic job was eliminatedltogether. At 29, hes back at square one. Theres literally er words at pla on that, its disappointing. Reporter millennials have been unusually unlucky. Burdened by student loan debt, theyve also been hit by two major recessions within the first decadef their careers. Those formative years of entering theobs market really set the trajectory for not only your career, but your, your wealth and income over time. Reporter economist nela richardson. And this is key here because Home Ownership typically is a way of growing wealth as an adult. So the longer you delay that the less time you have to build that wealth over time. Reporter and the longer millennials wait to move out of their parents homes, period, the bigger the drag on the onomy. Ol fewer hous being formed means less spending on everythi housingrelated. Housing, if you add in all those Housing Services and inying appliances or renov its about 15 to 18 of the economy. Five, 10 years out, if we stillh have peopl who lost that initial step into adulthood, this ia missing part of the economy that could be felt for ars. I turned 30 while we were still in shelter in place. Ceso in my mind, in this pn my life, i wanted to live on my own. I wanted to have really nice furniture thats not from ikea. I wanted to have kind of a senior role in my career. That kind of was just turned upside down. And then moving home. Its like i feel like i took a couple of steps back. Reporter these setbacks are part of the reason why millennials are behind on non economic milestones too. Like marriage. In terms of sort of the share aof 23 to 38 year olds th married, among the millennial generation, about 44 . Gen x back in 2003, it was about 53 . Reporter underandably, perhaps. Its hard to date when youre living with mom and dad. Some women are definitely thderstanding because they are going through sog similar. And then i believe theres the otr side of the coin. Oh, you live with your parents . H its lik, i dont know if i like you that much, you know . Reporter and do your parentb know about thefriend . No. Reporter during emic of course there are other risks to dating, like exposing your rents to illness. A guy asked me on a date or like tsome party. And i texted him, im sorry, i cant go. My mom wont let me. And the last time that i ever ld a boy im sorry, i cant, my mom wont let me ive never done that, i never texted that beheuse texting didnt exist last time that that was an answer to anyone. You know, like landlines did. Reporter other than coagion risk, how do paren feel about having their adult kids back . Some are thrilled. Having them here is fun for us. We enjoy it. We enjoy it honestly. My mother is over the moon. Esofcially having all three reporter yes, both his brothers are living at home too. Im 33. Im 30 now. Im 26. Reporter santiago was laid t off from a movater; mauricio furloughed from his job as a chef. Its a full house. Hey love it. They wish it could stay like this. But unfortunately, we are all grown men. Reporter molly les parents even bought a new, bigger house in m, to entice her to stick around. I wish it forever. Reporter but its not all idyllic. Were in an Election Year and we dont necessarily see eye to eye. We just dont talk about it reporter e glasers, the fights are less about politics, more about personal hygiene. I still have a messy room. And so i venmo my mom sometimes to just clean. Reporter really . Yeah, im living re for free. Ill venmo you and she gets so excitehe reporter time together may be winding down, at least accoing to her father e. J. So i think youre gonna get a place in the next month or so from what kkis been saying. Well, i just found that out. But no. Thats what ive been talking about. I think that they need to, like, have their space. Reporter but shes still getting used to the idea. I think they call it failure to launch. Classic millennial, like millennial traits. Reporter she takes comfort in knowing shes not alone. Mfor the pbs newshour, i catherine rampell. Ma woodruff scores of g cities are urging the berlin government ttake in more refugees and Asylum Seekers, whore stranded in italy and greece. The proposal has generatedve conty in germany, whose chancellor, Angela Merkel threw open its borders in 2015 when europes so called refugee crisis began. Critics say merkel was responsible for encouraging millions more to head towards the europeannion, and provoking a right wing backlash. Correspondent Malcolm Brabant began reporting on this Historic Movement of people. Hes been to former east germant to assess thist initiative. Reporter for the past five years, the europea sunion has beengthening its defenses againsAsylum Seekers. But not everyone, is unwelcoming, especially here in the former east german city of potsdam. Kathrin matejat believ she has a civic duty to boost integration. She runs coffee sessions wre sympathetic germans help migrants with language and other problems. Theyre working, o person at a time. To counter the growing influence of the right wing and ti immigrant stance. translated i think its human nature to hold others responsible for your problems. If people who are right wing or not or for example your neighbor who is not an extremist who feels cheated because they cant get kindergarten place or who s a hard time finding a place to live, then its easy to blame others for that. Reporter Massiolah Molassadah is 19 years old and from afghanistan. He came to germany via greece, and managed to reach western europe jusbefore the greek border with macedonia was irrevocably sealed imber 2015. Stalemate and many refugees have been stuck in greece, unable to progress. translated i s germany as my second home. I am free do whatever i please n there one telling me you cant do this you cant do that. That makes me happy. Th i k if i can work or i can study then i think i have a future here. Reporter molassadah was a beneficiary of chancellor gela merkelsecision to throw open germanys borders five years ago when fleets of overcrowded rafts began landing on greek island beaches. The overall impact is a disaster when itomes to crimes, when it comes to money. Its something we cant afford. Reporter beatrix von storch is the deputy leader of the right wing alternave for germany party. Its anti immigrant stance has lured conservative voters away from Angela Merkel who will step down as chancellor next year after four terms. I think historians will regard her as the chancellor who has taken the worst decision ever after the world war. Which has changed the face and the country for decades. Reporter but at potsdam town hall, they approve of Angela Merkels grand gesture. Mayor mike schuberts passion was fuelled by a visit to the notoriously overcrowded moria t fugee camp on the greek island of lesbos beforerned down earlier this autumn, and he agreed to take in a number of unaccompanied minors from moria. translated nyone who has seen the conditions here knows that we cannot keep waing any longer and its m expectation that we will find solutions because weve been talking enough. Reporter germanysior minister Horst Seehofer is resisting calls from cities like potsdam to accept mo migrants. Germany has taken in 1. 7 million refugees since 2015. And seehofer says theres no way germany is going to throw open its borders as it did five years ago wh eopes migrant crisis began. He says to do so would be to gravate germanys European Union partners. But schubert and his growing band of so called safe haven cities are determined to press ahead. translated we should distribute people among communities with the capacity for integration. We can tackle this problem together and through voluntary coitment by the safe haven cities. Then the question will no longer be how does th compare to five years ago . Itll be what are we doing here today and now . Its not up to single regions with germany to decideho or who cant enter the country. This is a federal issue. Reporter but the wkness of schuberts position wasin rced as he staged a public web call with a german rescue boat in the mediterranean among those watching, a group of nigerians, whose asylum claims have been rejected. Moussa khalifa lives in a temporary hostel and hes afrain that immigratiuthorities will soon swoop to implement a deportation orr. translated i ran out of now, if i go back ven worse than before. Now you say i should leave the country. Ive been in libya for four years, passed through the mediterranean sea, passed rough the sahara deser a lot of people died in the dert. A lot of people died in the mediterranean sea. But today ialive. But im being threatened by the police that i have to go back to my country where i came from. That means i dont have the right to live. Te rep nigeria is facing a violent insurgency by islamist extremists, and clashes with police are common. Nigeria is not on germanys list of safe counies, so theres a chance rejected Asylum Seekers wont be deported, but that doesnt calm the fears of umeh lucky. tranated returning me to nigeria is like sending me to hell. Its just a direct way to death. Repter fred momper is keen r integration to succeed and helps migrants to draft c. V. S si they crove their job prospects. Momper believes immigration is good for germany. Hi i they bring a different kind of thinking. We are going one way, and if yor haugees, they open our ideas, they have other ideas, they have another culture. They help to start thinking differently at the end of the day. Ng the world is cg, and unless you change i think you get changed. Reporter germany remains europes driving force over imrggration. Itsg other e. U. States to speed up the asylum process and take in more refugees. But the former commu nations are resisting. They are almost exclusively white and christian and have no desire to change at all. For the pbs newshour, im Malcolm Brabant in potsdam. Woodruff tay with us, for the latest edition of the newshour book club. But first, take a moment to hear from your local pbs station. Its a chance to offer your support, which helps keep programs like ours on the air. Woodruff many Older Americans are living a minimalist lifestyle on the road. This encore filmed before the pandemic is part of our making sense series. This whole entire industry is just exploding right now. Reporter at nomadikcustoms, marc vroman and his crew retrofit vehicles to live in. I think with the combination of just how things are in the world right now, people arean really wng to jump into vans and buses and, just, alternative housin rsituations. Orter these days the hashtag van life business is booming. Vromans hired eight new workers, but still cant keep up. At last count, i think i had Something Like 180 estimates to write, probably another 400 emails to return. Think yesterday alone, we we received 37 phone calls. I feel like i hopped on to a rocket ship, and i have just been doing everything i can to hold on reporter the last halfyear of lost jobs has spuesed a desire tpe. Cheap mobile living enables it. Eft lots of folks, many older, were on the roade the van life hashtag, inspired by this 65yearold. Wouldnt you like to be out here and see and live like this . I love my life. Reporter youtube celeb bob wells mod into a van 25 years ago when divorce left him unable to meet the rent in anchorage, alaska. I knew i could live comfortably in a van on 1,400 b montause no house payment, no utility payments. I had solar, i was my own utility company. I enjoyed it. That was the amazing t reporter enjoyed it so much, cheaprvliving. Com, and then a, Youtube Channel, to teach others to downsize and thrive on wheels. Finding heat in your van is a really important issue for a lot of us. Everything you need to stayer clean is right the topic of today is poop. Reporter wells videos, viewed over 80 million times, preach the simple life, especially appealing right now to those ages 55 to 70 some three million of whom have been shoved out of rkforce. S 25 of americans dont have a penny saved watirement. So in five, ten, 20 years, that 25 are going to be living on Social Security, and Social Security wont be enough for them to live on. Thas for all you do. Reporter every winter in artzsite, arizona, wells devotees convene at the rtr the rubber tramp rendezus for seminars and community. I feel like im a disciple. laughs youre moses and im thedi iple. Youre spreading the word. Reporter wells, a self describeintrovert, is their celebrity guru. Theres a lot of us here who are on Social Security, theyre and their Social Security is anywhere fro 600 to 1,000 a month. And so you can see they couldnt rent a home on that. But when they move into their vans, most of them slowly have to start dipping into their savings, their emergency fun and so most of them will have to work sometime to replenish it. Reporter Youtuber Linda mastromonaco lives in her s. U. V. , sleeps in the front seat. I curl up, i stretch out this way, i stretch out this way. Reporte two years ago, stromonaco gave up her apartment, quit the last of her lowpayingnobenefits jobs. E now lives on the road, hawks inspirational cards online, has posted hundreds of videos to her Youtube Channel. Up to nearly 30,000 subscribers. Im thinking more people are feeling stuck right now and maki a plan when they can th leave the traditional lifestyle. Reporter hows your Youtube Channel doing, in terms of income . Income has exploded over the last couple months vewas averaging, you know, 600 a month, and imtwo grand for this month. Reporter steve turtle ves his youtube followers the down anddirty on workamping working seasonal jobs while camping,hat is. Im going to show you how i clean toilets. explosion thats how you clean a South Carolina toilet right there reporter turtles been hamming it up for over two years. And youtube rewards you for people watching your videos and the commercial. Reporter carol meeks has a youtube Cooking Channel for nomads on a tight budget. Some people are living on 500 to 600 a month. So, i mean, were not going to be having salmon and crab legs. Fyou can do a lot of thin a dollar a serving, if you know uw to shop, and if youre creative in how cooking. Im planning on becoming the Anthony Bourdain of van life. Okay . Reporter but how many itinerants can support o themselvyoutube earnings, like bob wells . For most people, its not reistic. The idea of making thousands, very few do that. Reporter consider stevtu turtles y take. I was somewhere around 150 a month, and then in march, it sort of fell apart. There was just not a lot going on. Reporter turtle stopped livestreaming when covid hit. Hes back at it, but hasnt reached youtubes pay threshold. I dont think im going to try to survive off of youtube. Reporter but if you, like bob wells, manage to go viral pardon the expression you make 75 grand a year from youtube . I make an amazing amount of money from youtube. Reporter more than 75,000, i take it. An amazing amount of money. You wouldnt i wouldnt believe it. Reporter what do you do with the money . I give it away. On what do i need for . I live in a van reporter indeed, wells has started a nonprofit to provide homes on wheels for folks in need, in tune with his Youtube Channels goal to lend a helping hand. He gives. S llowers receive. Carol meeks Youtube Channel has grown since we met in the winter. Ust under 4,400 subscribers. And i actually think that thats been impacted because of covid, because so many people ag lookr entertainment and engagement and theyre doing it online. Reporter in january, she was forming friendships with fellow nomads in the flesh. Since the pandemic . Virtual bonds. I have met so many people s online amany other people who have channels who are in this type lifestyle, so, i feel like i have that community. Reporter meekslike so many Older Americans, seems to have found a new tribe on the road, online. E for s newshour, this is paul solman. Woodruff finally tonight, our now read this book club conversation. Our november pick was the poet e a comingofage novel, written in verselizabeth acevedo. Jeffrey brown talks with her for our ongoing arts and culture series, canvas. as a teenager in new york city, elizabeth found r vce through poetry, first writing it, and then guided by dedicated teacherst at open mics and publicmlam copetitions. In 2014, she won a national title. Wh she later workedas a middle school teacher, she wanted to share her passi with young students. That became her impetus for her 2018 debut nov telhe poet ex. I was a teancherprince georges county. I had 150 people in my space. I was an eighth grade english teacher in prince georges county, maryland. I had about 150 young people in my space and i realized that i had grown up loving poetry, loving performance poetry, and that they didnt have a Reference Point for that. Brown why a novel in verse . It is a coming of age story set in harlem about a young woman who is dominicanamerican who wants to be a poet, but shes a secret poet. Shes in a really religious household and thes a fraught situation with what does it mean to take up space with what you believe, not just your brown why a novel in verse . Why did that make ense . It didnt make sense, it didnt make sense all its a really difficult thing to, i think, pull off well youre trying to hold 350 pieces of poetry and see if they can nk. And trying to figure out the form was probably the mostic dit thing. But heres a chacter who has all of these secret feelings and i wanted people to see her. Brown theres a passage when she says, and ill just read it, were difrent, this poet and i, in looks body in background. But i dont feel so different l whenten to her. I feel heard. It seems that thth is something perhaps happened to you yourself . When i was young, i had anin amteacher named abby lublin when i was in high school who snuck me to open m and it was pivotal to me to see real live art and rere people who aking a living out of art and to believe that it was possible to say certain trhs and be okay . Right. That there was no shame in saying certain things out loud. And i think seeing women and women of color on a stage in front of audiences just just being proud and brave was really inspiring. Brown you have been a real strong advocate for grter representation in young adult literature. Has that world changed . What have you seen happen . I think its changing and i think theres a lot more folks coming forward. We have julian randall, who has both a poetry collection and is coming out with a middle grade novel. We have yesenia montilla, who is an incredible poet. We have naima coster, whose novel halsey street wasus incredible, kirize nominee, and she coming out with another book called whats mine and yours. I think were seeing a rich moment. Im still pushing and hoping that publishers are always considering the second book and the careerf writers, not just the debut. Brown all right, were going to continue this conversation online fve now. Our nomber book pick is the poet x, elizabeth acevedo. Thank you very much. Thanks, jeffrey. Woouff and our december Disease Control is short ning guidance foruarantines after being exposed to covid 19. New guidance out this evening decreases the time from 14 to seven days when a covid test shows negative. Recommended quarantine time is down to ten days whenhere is no test. Good news. And some sad news before we go. We learned and some sad news before we go. We learned today that award and author tim obied inorney florida yesterday. On he was aibuting correspondent on pbs religion amd ethics news weekly pro and his work there occasionally appeared on the newshour. Previously, tim spent more tn 20 years covering the Supreme Court and law at abc news. 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