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Injuries he sustained when he was hit in the head by members of the rightwing maga mob during the Capitol Insurrection Last month. Just four other private citizens have laid in honor in the rotunda, including two other Capitol Police officers killed in the line of duty, rosa parks and reverend billy graham. Today House Impeachment Managers laid out a searing argument for why the disgraced former occupant of the white house should be convicted by the senate for his role in inciting the riot that led to the death of officer sicknick and four others. With an impassioned trial brief saying simply his responsibility for the events of january 6th is unmistakable. Arguing the senate can try the former president because his conduct endangered the life of every Single Member of congress, jeopardized the peaceful transition of power and line of succession and compromised our national security. Adding that instead of accepting the will of the american people, the man whose name we would love to excise from this show, donald trump, quote, summoned a mob to washington, exorted them into a frenzy and aimed them like a loaded cannon into the capitol. We know thats true from the president s own words and video of that day. We certainly know that the senators who will consider the case against them were in fact themselves witnesses to the events of january 6th, with the Senate Chamber a crime scene and many of those same senators who incited the riot themselves and those now defending his actions hunkered down in the same secure rooms with their colleagues. In a frank testimonial shared on Instagram Live last night, congresswoman alexandria ocasiocortez shared the trauma of that day, highlighting the personal toll the capitol insurrection took on her as she took cover in her office and then in a bathroom. The whole time she was gripped by the mortal fear that she might not survive. Then i hear these huge violent bangs on my door and then every door going into my office. There were no yells, no one saying who they were, nobody identifying themselves and just boom, boom, boom. I hide back in in the bathroom behind the door. And then i just start to hear these yells of where is she . Where is she . This was the moment where i thought everything was [ bleep ] over [ bleep ]. I mean i thought i was going to die. Luckily the person at the door was a Capitol Police officer who hadnt identified himself. And even then she said the situation was so intense that it was hard to tell if he even intended to help her. But its especially harrowing because theres no question of what that angry mob would have done had they found her first. Under the circumstances she had every right to question who was at the door, given that since the moment that she and the rest of the squad ran and won, they have been turned into hate objects by the right. Replacing the old republican connard of excessively attacking nancy pelosi or president obama. The apprentice actor and his minions on the riot have made Vilifying Aoc with sexist attacks and insults an almost singular focus of the last two years. We all know that aoc and this crowd are a bunch of communists, they hate israel, they hate our own country. Aoc plus three. You know aoc . [ crowd booing ] not a good student. Not good at anything, but shes got a good line of crap, ill tell you that. They run that party and they run the american left and theyre not going to let some young uppity come in and upset the apple cart. She is a viciously dishonest person. Shes got a great line of [ bleep ] thats about it. Some day the aoc moment will pass. Its too stupid to continue. Did i mention good old marjorie q. Greene posed with an Assault Rifle as her campaign for congress. Her ad was so incendiary that facebook took it down and then a bunch of North Georgians elected her. Then just as with nancy pelosi, aoc, president obama and the squad, the Maga Cult Leader even put a big ole target on his own Vice President during the riots during the rally. I hope mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so. Because if mike pence does the right thing, we win the election. And later attacking pence in realtime during the insurrection for not having the courage to overturn a democratic election, to which the mob chanted hang mike pence. In their impeachment response today lawyers for the disgraced florida retiree denied that he incited the riot and said the trial is unconstitutional because hes no longer president. They also say his remarks at the Ellipse Rally that preceded the riot were free speech, protected by the first amendment. Joining me now is congresswoman Maxine Waters of california, chair of the House Financial Services committee. Congresswoman, its always didnt to talk with you, but i specifically wanting to talk to you today because you have been where aoc is, as somebody whos been obsessively attacked by the right, villified, treated to sexism and racism because youve been an activist member of Congress Since youve been there. Were watching you now back in the 1990s after the insurrections in los angeles. Can you just tell us how you feel hearing somebody like congresswoman alexandria ocasiocortez tell that harrowing story and also your own experience having to be in that capitol on 16 . Thank you so much, joy. As i listen to aoc, my heart went out to her because i know what she was experiencing, and particularly when she connected with the trauma that she had experienced when she was sexually abused. And so she described in a very vivid way what was happening with her when she heard them calling out where is she . Where is she while she was hiding. And as she said, she thought this was the end for her, that she could be killed. I know how she felt because i have been threatened also so many times. And youre absolutely correct. Because i took on this president early, i called for his impeachment early, i have been threatened time and time again. The oath keepers who were part of the domestic terrorists who came to the capitol and invaded our capitol attempted to come to my office in los angeles. They tried to organize other domestic terrorists to join them. My community discovered what was going on and they turned up in big numbers and of course the oath keepers had a change of mind when they saw that the community was not going to stand for it. I had to put out a notice to all of my community to say, please dont come. Dont engage with the oath keepers. Dont allow them to get you involved in a confrontation because i was trying to keep the peace because i know that if they actually showed up and there was a confrontation, it would be bloody. And so it was not only been the oath keepers, as we went back and took a look at how many times ive been threatened and what has happened to manufacture these people, in April Of 2018 a man named Anthony Lloyd scott got three years of probation and 100 hours of Community Service for threatening to kill me. The oath keepers who as i mentioned who tried to come to my office and was turned back and they are very bloody, and they white rightwing supreme ists. There was a a man in florida that pleaded guilty to leaving a threatening voice mail message with my office. So i discovered that he was also sentenced along with several others. This anthony lord scott who is a trump supporter in california pleaded guilty to threatening me in a voice mail and so he also was sentenced and so it goes on and on and on. I am of course accustomed to being threatened, but i have to be concerned about security and i have to watch my back and i have to make sure that im not putting myself in a position where i can be harmed. I have to know, you know, where im going, when im going. I oftentimes have security, i had it all during my campaign. I have to make sure that im not allowing people to walk behind me. I have to look out before i step out to see if there are any, you know, strangelooking people loitering around, on and on and on. But i and other women, minority women in congress, are often threatened. Were at risk. And just as aoc was threatened that day, i was lucky, i was locked in my office. I would not leave it even when they tried to get me to go to where they were gathering all of the members in one room. Im glad i didnt, because of the contagion that took place there and the members that ended up with covid19. Yeah. But i recognize what she was saying and how she felt. And i know how i have to live my life. But whats so interesting about all of this is they tried to make themselves the victim when indeed they are following the president of the United States of america who had advance planning about the invasion that took place in our capitol. And even theres information that some of the planning came out of individuals working in this campaign. As a matter of fact, he absolutely should be charged with Premeditated Murder because of the lives that were lost with this invasion, with this insurrection. And so yes, we are threatened, but we cant back up. Weve got to fight as hard as we can to see to it that theres some justice. For the president of the United States to sit and watch the invasion and the insurrection and not say a word because he knew that he had absolutely initiated it and as some of them said, he invited us to come. Were here at the invitation of the president of the United States. When he rallied, he said go to the capitol, fight hard. This is take back your country. And so if thats not inciting the kind of violence that we witnessed, i dont know what is. Indeed, congresswoman. I want to note for our audience that the speaker of the house, who also was hiding under a table with some of her young staffers, i know a lot of the staffers who work for you all has issued a Dear Colleague letter. Its important to facilitate an accurate personal record for the Healing Process and its also clear that we will need to establish a 9 11type commission to examine and report on the facts that happened on january 6th. I want to thank you, Maxine Waters, for that and please stay safe. Definitely please stay safe and thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I want to now turn to neal katyal, former acting solicitor general. You heard the congresswoman. Neal, the reality is you have officer Sicknick Lying In Honor in the capitol now because he was beaten to death by the rioters. That is the definition of a lynch mob. And the reality is if they were willing to beat a Police Officer to death, imagine had they gotten hold of one of the people who have been made negatively famous by rightwing media and by the former president , donald to turn aoc, to turn Maxine Waters, to turn otherem ask you this defense for this lynch mob that the former president sent. The argument thats being made by the trump side is that he cannot be impeached because hes no longer president and that what he said in whipping up that crowd is free speech. I just want to note for the audience, this is the brief that theyre arguing against, this is this thick brief which im going to spend the day reading, and this is their little 14page response, okay . Your thoughts, neal, on their argument. Exactly. So Donald Trumps lawyers an trump are trying to distance themselves from this horrific attack. Its like the January 6th Mob is the only thing donald trump has ever made that he wont stick his name on in giant gold letters. Sadly for him, the upshot of those briefs is that this is what hes going to be most remembered for, joy. And i absolutely agree with you, the briefs today just make this really, really stark and clear. And just starting with the writing itself. The house brief by the Impeachment Managers tells a story elegantly. Its an ugly story, its an evil story, but its linear and tells the reader what she needs to know. And the trump brief by contrast is schizophrenic, its hard to follow, it misspells United States on the second line of the brief. It weighs in at 14 incoherent pages. And the upshot of that brief is theyre trying to say trump is engaged in free speech. Give me a break. Weve got president s for 200 years. We never had Impeachment Proceedings against them because president s dont say the kinds of things that donald trump said. And i think the House Managers captured it so well and yesterday as you were pointing out, aoc in an even more powerful way, a very visceral way. I think thats the problem trump has is his lawyers are trying to make it out like hes just some crazy Guy Screaming at the tv. Hes the president of the United States when this stuff is happening. And as congresswoman waters just said, while its happening, what does he do . Nothing. If you were president , if i were president , any normal person on january 6th would have been horrified and done Everything Possible to stop it. This isnt free speech, this is incitement. Indeed. And let me play you one of the more ridiculous other arguments that they are making. This is one of trumps lawyers, david schoen. And hes saying that video of the actual insurrection should not be shown in the trial. Take a listen. Does this country really need to see videotapes . We know now apparently that mr. Swalwell and the other managers tend to show videotapes of the riots and people calling in, people being hurt, Police Officers talking. Why does the country need that now . This has nothing to do with President Trump and the country doesnt need to watch videos of riots an unrest. We need to heal now. We need to move forward. Im not a lawyer, youre the great lawyer here, neal. But this strikes me as me telling a gang of my friends, go in there and rob that bank. They go in, they rob the bank, some people get killed in the bank robbery and i say, you know, it shows people being shot by my friends who sent in there, but we dont need to see that, thats traumatizing. Dont show the video. Dont show the closed Circuit Video because thats just going to make people upset. Have you ever heard an argument like that . Well, ive heard it only from people really afraid of the facts. Im sure hes terrified of showing the Gabriel Sterling video, the Georgia Official of december 1st who went to the cameras and said, mr. President , cut it out, someone is going to get shot. Someone is going to get killed. What does trump do . He says the incendiary nonsense again and again and again. And thats the real problem. Some of this stuff you can say if you were an Alien Landing from mars. The statements by themselves might look like speech. The problem is they come in a context of trump egging this on and after hes been warned by the Georgia Election officials no less, someone is going to get shot. Its going to be a fascinating trial, but it is going to be a trial with evidence. And thats why donald trump has a lot to fear. Yeah, indeed. Some of that evidence is the person whos lying in honor in our capitol right now, because these people are also cop killers. They may not want to have to address that either, but theyre going to have to. Neal katyal, thank you very much. Really appreciate you being here this evening. Up next on the reidou, as we were just talking about, youve seen the briefs. The little one, the big one. Its now time for republicans to decide are they going to be the party that has some honor or the party of bizarre conspiracies and marjorie q. Green or what . 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Were going to have an inperson meeting in the capitol where were going to be talking through a lot of these issues internally. First of all, were very united in our opposition to the devastating economic hits that President Biden has been doing in his first two weeks. In normal times that would not have been a tough question for republican congressman Steve Scalise to answer. You have two conservative lawmakers in the same party. One voted to uphold her oath and hold the president accountable and the other espoused Conspiracy Theories that a plane did not hit the Pentagon On 9 11 and the deadly shootings at sandy hook and parkland were actually staged. Now of course these are not normal times. For this Republican Party youre more likely to face repercussions for following the constitution than for following qanon. In fact more House Republicans have been outspoken on the dire need to remove liz cheney from House Leadership for voting to impeach than to denounce marjorie q. Greene for her lies. Senate Minority Leader Mitch Mcconnell jumped in defending cheney calling her a leader with deep convictions and the courage to act on them and saying she is an important leader in our party and in our nation. Not mentioning greene by name, which would counting as courage in our distopia he said that loony lies are the congresswoman fired back the real cancer for the Republican Party is weak republicans who only now how to lose gracefully. Joining me is david fromme. I feel like the guy defending the party for not expelling the lady who thinks that jewish people have lasers that they aim at california is also the guy who said that hes david duke without the baggage and then got put in leadership. Because thats a thing that happens in the Republican Party. So i feel like the answer to his question is obvious. Of course theyre going to support Margie Greene over liz cheney, right . Well, lets look at this without ethics, without morality and lets look at this the way a professional politician would, very cold bloodedly from the point of gaining, holding and using power. Republicans have a terrible trap and its expressed by polls from the state of georgia. In the state of georgia, georgia, joe bidens Approval Rating is now in the high 50s. The support for President Trump and the feelings about the capitol coup are in the low 40s. Its pretty obvious where georgia Public Opinion is. But among georgia republicans, 85 support President Trump and majorities are defensive of the attempted capitol coup. So republicans are in this whipsaw between the voters they have and the voters they need. And thats the thing the dccc, i never remember how many cs to use, is using right now. That ad where they are identifying people with qanon, thats running in Swing Districts like Ventura County in california, like miami beach in south miami, where republicans got lucky in 2020 and could get unlucky in 2022. And just to make that exact point, running on the 2022 ballot in georgia will be Raphael Warnock who has to run again for reelect, kemp, the governor whos being villified by trump because he didnt flip the election and Margie Greene. Theyre all going to be running at the same time. So georgia is going to get to have a referendum on whether they prefer the pastor of Ebenezer Baptist church or that lady in terms of who symbolizes georgia. But i want to play for you because you make a great point. Speaking of cruelly and viciously and coldly using power, heres mitch mcconnell, Senate Minority leader. Well, with regard to the former president , were going into an Impeachment Trial next week. Were all going to listen to what the lawyers have to say and making the arguments and work our way through it. President trump is 100 within his rights to look into allegations of irregularities and weigh his legal options. This process will reach its resolution. Our system will resolve any recounts or litigation. Were going to have an orderly transfer from this administration to the next one. What we all say about it is frankly irrelevant. And the point thats made there is that the first thing that hes responding to is the answer to the question should he have spoken up earlier about the big lie about the election. He doesnt even answer it, he skips that question and goes on to something else. He, the rob portmans of the world who voted with trump 99 of the time, who excused him, pretended they didnt hear what he said and didnt read when twitter happens, isnt the problem that the party itself has laid down for the far right for so long they dont know how to stand up anymore . Mcconnell was caught in a very specific quandary. Marjorie greene comes from the extreme upper lefthand corner of georgia, an exurban district. Of course she won in November Of 2020. Her corner of the state is one of the places where the Voter Turnout dropped most between November Of 2020 and the runoff in january 2021. I mean theres a real argument that she helped to cause the loss of the senate, the two senate seats in georgia and helped to cost the senate the majority. Mcconnell, that has to be driving him crazy. Hes worried about even further losses if he drives people like that away. Hes got his fingers in one of those christmas finger traps. You keep pulling and theres no way out. Yeah, there is no way out. We are now confirming nbc news has confirmed that miss Marjorie Taylor greene is currently meeting with the House Minority leader, kevin mccarthy. Im not sure if hes giving her a high five, a hug, i dont know, but i highly doubt that he is reprimanding her. Just my guess, david fromme, thanks for being here. Up next, Congressional Democrats are pushing ahead with a nearly 2 trillion covid relief package. Ohio senator Sherrod Brown joins me next on the reidout. The. Things are getting clearer yeah i feel free to bare my skin, yeah, thats all me nothing and me go hand in hand nothing on my skin, thats my new plan nothing is everything woman keep your skin clearer with skyrizi. With skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90 clearer skin at 4 months. Of those, nearly 9 out of 10 sustained it through 1 year. And skyrizi is 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. I see nothing in a different way and its my moment so i just gotta say nothing is everything skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. Before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. 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I just want you all to join us and call your senators and get mad about this, people. This is unjust. As the white house pointed out last week more than 10 million americans are unemployed, 14 million renters are behind on Rent Payments and 29 million adults along with 8 million children are struggling with food insecurity. Im joined by Sherrod Brown. Senator, i dont want to just pick on joe manchin, but he is her senator, this woman who just spoke. You just heard her speak. And he has said that he is for reconciliation, but he does not support raising the minimum wage to 15 an hour. Hes quibbled about who should be getting the stimulus checks, whether it should be limited and hes spending a lot of time getting in his feelings because the Vice President of the United States went on tv in his state without his permission. Apparently she needs his permission. Are all the democrats on the same page as to the need and the scale of the response . Yes. Joe biden spoke to the caucus, to the Democratic Caucus today, so did janet yellen. They both said go big. Janet yellen was on longer. She took questions for probably half an hour. She said over and over, we have to go big. Theres no its better to overdo this than underdo it. Overshoot it than to undershoot it, whatever term she used. But over and over she kept going back to going big. That means money, that means some unemployment extension benefits, it means the direct payments, it means significant Rental Assistance dollars, it means help for small business, it means opening up our schools. Mitch mcconnell simply refused to support Public Education really for his whole career but especially now in terms of dollars to schools. You cant really get the economy going again unless schools are open for children because of parents work life. All of those things. Weve got to go big. Theres just no question thats the right way to go. So lets just to be clear, the republican, what they put up is actually sort of insulting to the american people. They say only 1,000 but they want to stop it at those making 50,000 a year. They only wanting to throw in 300 for unemployment, down from the four. No federal eviction moratorium, no change to the minimum wage. That plan is dead, right . The biden plan is what youre going to vote on . Yeah, were going to vote on it. It would be great if the republicans want to do bipartisanship, but they dont. Early time for me in the senate was 2009 and 2010 and they slow walked and cost us from getting medicare at 55 and cost us from getting our economy has paid for it, the American Public has paid for it for a decade. You could argue we paid for it politically too. Thats obviously of lesser importance for the country. They are really good at slow walking, really good at feigning bipartisanship. They forget about the suffering out there that you started, with the lady from west virginia. People are hungry. Were going to see a wave of evictions in the middle of a pandemic and in the middle of the winter if we dont act, and if we dont act decisively and go big, the chair of the federal reserve, jay powell, wants us to go big. The governor of west virginia, a republican, wants us to go big. Its Republican House members and senators and these Interest Groups that say, oh, no, youve got to do less. Well, theyre wrong. Does go big mean 2,000 or 1 1,400. Yeah, id like to see us do an additional 2,000. It should be 2,000. But i mean theres so many other things. The Rental Assistance is really, really important. Keep people so keeping them out of foreclosure on their homes, making sure theres money for schools so that students can go back to school in person. Its all of those things are what going big means. Republicans just dont want to go big. They want to slow walk, they want to restrict government. They want to make they want to show that government cant work. Back in march when we did the c. A. R. E. S. Act, we showed Government Works in this country. 12 million americans stayed out of poverty because of what the congress did. Then congress did nothing for eight months. By august when all the benefits were starting to fall away, thousands of people a day were falling into poverty in this country. So we know what works. We know going big matters. We know the biden plan will work for this country and well defeat the virus and get the economy back on its feet much more quickly. And i know that one of the things thats happened is that you have seen this phenomenon of people who are desperate, who are taking the last bit of their money and trying to play that game, you know, that they had on reddit where you go in and try to beat the stock shorters. Weve seen a lot of that happening. Are you concerned that the level of desperation will mean that people will suffer even more if they lose money when the bad guys jump back in and the Hedge Funders win in the end . Yeah, the damage by not doing enough. One of the things janet yellen today said, this could scar the economy for a generation. It will mean more suicide its already meaning more Mental Health problems for people, problems for our children missing a year of school and all the socialization and the academic learning that come with that, people that lose their homes, what that means for them for the next decade. Everything goes upside down. All of these kinds of things is why we need to go big and why biden is right about this, why democrats are going to stick together from Bernie Sanders to joe manchin. Were going to stick together and were going to do this right. All right, were going to keep an eye on manchin, though, so thank you very much. We appreciate you, senator brown. 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The Trump Administration was the most openly hostile to immigrants in decades. So its no surprise that the man who called Mexican Migrants Murderers and rapists would embark on a campaign meant to demonize and terrorize immigrants and Asylum Seekers. She stranded 10,000 Asylum Seekers in mexico, forced to live in squaller. The president went about detaining and separating families. The goal was to inflict maximum trauma by caging babies, toddlers and orphaning innocent children so in hopes the word would get out and migrants would be terrified into staying away. Like so much about the Trump Administration, the cruelty was the point. My colleague, jacob soboroff, talked to one of the victims that remains separated. Are you hoping to get anything for your birthday . Yeah. What do you think youre going to get or what do you want to get, buddy . My dad. You want to get your dad for your birthday. That would be a nice present, huh, bud . Yeah. Almost immediately after taking office, President Biden has set about undoing that damage. Last week the Justice Department rescinded a memo that established a zero tolerance enforcement policy for migrant border crossings. That policy resulted in thousands of Family Separations because children were not allowed to stay with their parents while they are in custody. Lawyers say they still have not reached the parents of 611 children who were separated during the previous administration. Today the current president signed Executive Orders to reverse his predecessors policies on Asylum Seekers and refugees. He announced that he would establish a task force charged with reunifying families separated by a policy that can unironically be described as evil. And the newly confirmed secretary of the department of Homeland Security and the firstever latino immigrant to serve in a cabinet post, Alejandro Mayorkas will head the task force with the Secretary Of State and health and Human Services playing su pouring role. Im not making new law. Were going to undo the moral and National Shame that literally ripped children from the arms of their families, their mothers and fathers at the border with no plan, none whatsoever, to reunify the children who are still in custody and their parents. First Lady Jill Biden is also expected to play a role. Its quite a departure from the previous first lady, who visited the epicenter of the family separation crisis while wearing a jacket that read i really dont care, do u . Overcoming the stain on American History is a daunting task. After the break, how President Biden plans to do it. Stay with us. Plans to do it stay with us the experts at Safelite Autoglass came right to me. With service i could trust. 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Jacob, having seen this policy break families apart up close, just from your Point Of View, how coherent is the Biden Policy Response and do you think from what youve heard about it so far it will work . It doesnt go as far as and families and lawyers would like but it is a historic first step on a historic day thats four years in the making. We all know that the deliberate on the first day of Trump Administration and after separating 5,500 children, torturing in the words of for no other reason than to scare other people we are now seeing what President Bidens promise is going to look like and what i was surprised by and i have been the white house will tell you, badgering them for details is the Attorney General will be on the task force in addition to the secretary of department of Homeland Security, health and Human Services and other important organizations and members of the u. S. Government and what that signals is accountability could be an important piece in all of this. When you heard that the president of the United States President Biden called this criminal as he was running for office theres questions whether or not he meant it. This sent a strong signal but not a definitive answer that may be the case. Maria, theres policy that took place in this country but number one it didnt work because people kept coming because theres broader issues internationally in Central America that continue to draw people despite the terror inflicted on the children and families here but also the mexico part. Theyre going to need a partner, mexico which has not always they seem real friendly with trump. Will they help . Well, look, the situation is that mexico needs to help undo again these hurtful, torturous policies of the Trump Administration. Look. This gets into very intense mexican politics right now which of course it is geo political but in its simplest form the mexican president was very happy to cooperate with donald trump in Milwaukeeing Mexico the entire wall. So, joy, im still getting Phenomenon Calls from people who i have reported on who are stuck in mexico trying to get here for claims, for refugees. This is not a question of like this is not a good time to come to the United States. Maybe you should wait. This is not were trying to get things in order. This is not a choice for people. This is not an immigration question. People coming here are desperate, joy. They an are people that dont have a choice, theyre running for their lives so as jacob says this is a historic day. This tone is so important and needs to go further because whats radical is not what biden may do. Whats radical is whats been done until now. Taking womens uterus and the babies from their parents. That State Department Piece is important because you have a lot of part of the search is going to have be international, find out if parents were sent back to places like honduras, if theyre stuck in mexico, are they in guatemala, is the child in the United States . The match for the 611 it is going to be an international challenge. I think it goes beyond that. That number, 628 and then 666 now and now 611 and parents not reached by the u. S. Government to this day. Over three years after the separation began but talk to the aclu. They will tell you its probably 1,000 parents and children who remain it is an important subgroup that the Biden Administration has not yet now deported in the home country without an assurance today from the Biden Administration to be brought back. This is all playing out while parents and children are being deported today. The Biden Administration signaled to stop expulsionings of unaccompanied Migrant Children. So there are a lot of policies that intercepted this policy. Different ways to be separated ongoing to this day and the Administration Needs to answer for those. Thats the issue, right . This Immigration Policy has to also presume, we are presuming it is making it more open for people to come. That is not 100 clear. You have the Biden Administration saying they want to stem migration and erase the evil that happened. Just talk from your Point Of View about how realistic that is and how much better thats going to be. Not the evil policy but your thoughts . Joy, if we can figure out how to send a man or a woman to the moon, then you have to be able to tell me and others who is going to be Vice President bidens wifes chief im sorry. The first ladys chief of staff, the lawyer afrodominican. They have the best of intentions but this goes way beyond those numbers and i would say to jacob and the aclu, this is much, much more. Well get into complicated territory here. You have parents here in the United States taking the children and fostered them. Theyre going to have to return the children to their parents. We have created the government of the United States and not just the Trump Administration because, of course, this is going on for democrats and republicans. Have created a humanitarian crisis. It is an International Humanitarian crisis so theres no patience now for, well, it will take sometime or we have to figure this out or another commission. No all of the emphasis, they need to stop it now and frankly i would go even further that joe biden needs to make a much larger statement, a national day of mourning and healing, something that makes it clear this can never, ever happen again. Yeah. Indeed. Maria, jacob, thank you for your incredible reporting and journalism on this. Okay. So thank you both but we want toened on a positive note. This is the second day of black History Blopt and here is a fact i bet you didnt know. On this day in 1897 that one of the greatest and simplest Kitchen Utensils was patented, the ice cream scooper. Do you know who you have to thank for that . Alfred cralle. He came up with the idea calls it an Ice Cream Mold and disher. 124 years later the design still holds up and that is tonights reed reidout. Get your desert and watch chris hayes because he is coming up next. Tonight, donald trump summoned an angry mob and aimed them at the capitol. Tonight what democrats are alleging, the trump response and how anyone paying attention should have seen this coming. We knew in advance that violence was planned. We knew that that violence needed someone to tell the lie. Then dr. Fauci on what may be exciting new vaccine news