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Close and right now several counties are under mandatory evacuations. Other parts of the south are under Storm Warnings as residents brace for days of heavy rain, dangerous winds and Life Threatening Storm Surge. Joining us now nbcs Marissa Parra from pinellas county, Florida And Nbc Meteorologist Bill karins. How are people there preparing for this . Reporter well, you can see some of the preparations happening behind me, and im going to go ahead and give you a little bit of a walk and talk, a show and tell if you will. These are Sandbag Preparations w we always see this when there is a hurricane or tropical storm approaching. It was within the hour, jose, that our phones were lighting up and going off, warning us of mandatory evacuations happening in this county. So were in the Tampa Bay region, pinellas county. This is one of the areas that is under mandatory evacuation for Mobile Home residents and ill tell you, talking to people on the ground here there are several people who are sandbagging for the very first time, because they are worried about this storm and several people who are saying, you know, they have flooding from previous storms, whether dahlia or debbie. Theyre preparing now. We saw one gentleman who was wearing scrubs because he was in the middle of a Work Shift and wanted to make sure he had enough time to get the sandbags he needed. And i dont know if we have video of this, i want to show you other kinds of prep were seeing in this area. This is an area prone to Storm Surge that is prone to flooding, so outside of tampa, General Hospital we saw what is called an aqua fence, roughly tenfoot barrier that protects Eppwa Prof 15 feet of Storm Surge. That is the only level one Trauma Center in the area. Across the state of florida, almost the entire state is under a state of emergency, were seeing school closures, were seeing more sandbagging, were seeing lines at gas stations, were seeing people stocking up. This is what authorities are asking people to do, stock up on the supplies you need now, do the preparings you need, fuel up, make sure you have the nonperishables you need, make sure you have batteries charged, everything you need to do, do it today before it is too late. Thats what authorities are asking people across not just the state of florida, but anyone in the path of this evershifting now hurricane, jose. Marissa parra, thank you so very much. Bill, first of all, it is now upgraded to hurricane. Something you know ive been talking about virtually all week. But what is it showing right now and give us kind of a track forecast. So the first thing were not happy about is that it is already a hurricane. So were not happy that it is now undergone officially rapid intensification. Yesterday at this time it was a 45mileperhour winds, it increased 35mileperhour winds, which is the definition. So it is rapidly intensifying. So we were afraid of that, it was forecast to happen and now it is heading into the gulf. It is going to be over extremely warm water. We expect it to continue to rapidly intensify. So the new forecast from the hurricane center, the path has not changed. Im sorry for my friends in the tallahassee area, Big Bend here, this has been pinpointed at you for two days now. And it has not budged. And looks very assured that that eye is going to cross over the top of tallahassee as we go through thursday night. The intensity, 120 by tomorrow morning, and then 125, they had it at 120 now, they inched up to 125, strong cat 3, almost a category 4 hurricane expected to make landfall. Tallahassee is 30 miles from the coast. Where were expecting this landfall. This storm is going to be traveling very fast for a big powerful storm. It is not going to weaken that much. Youll probably get sustained winds in tallahassee 100 to 110 with gusts up to 120. Ill tell people in the tallahassee area, you should be preparing for weeks without power. Thats how serious of a storm this is pointed at you right now. So if youre in tallahassee, youre charging everything up, youre making as much ice as you possibly can. And if you have to get out of there, an Emergency Manager tells you to leave town, be prepared to get out. That could be happening for the tallahassee city itself. The storm is going to head up through georgia, near atlanta. It is still going to be a 60mileperhour winds. Were talking about Power Outages all over the state of georgia, and torrential maybe historic Rainfall Event too. We havent changed a lot with the watches and the warnings. Everyone is pretty much Status Quo for what you were before this. This storm is still going to be huge in size with tropical Storm Force winds extending 400 miles. We will have scattered Power Outages all through the florida peninsula, even though the storm is going to be about 200 miles off the coast. This is an enormoussized storm and it also looks like it is going to be big, huge and powerful. No real big changes to the Storm Surge forecast either. So, again, the worst of it to the right of that, you know, where we get that landfall, this area from keaton beach, cedar key, this has been decimated by a couple of hurricanes lately. Tampa, 4 to 8 feet of Storm Surge. And then we have really big concerns for the southern appalachians. Some of our Computer Models are saying 12 to 15 inches of rain in mountainous areas, and if you know anything about tropical systems and mountains, theyre a horrible combination. There is a lot of aspects to this. This is kind of a Nightmare Forecast right now Big Bend to georgia. And so, bill, if you could, take us back to the initial slide there, the cone and the forecasting cone. It seems as though it is kind of going way west of most of florida there. You know, im looking at the tampa area, st. Pete there, it is a direct hit apparently on tallahassee area. But im just wondering, it would be the east side of the storm, the dirty side, which would be affecting most of the West Coast of florida. What do you see for tampa, st. Pete, bradenton, and the areas south of tampa as well as going north . Starting on the florida peninsula, well start with the miami area, youll be about 300 miles away from the storm. Youll probably get some squalls, winds higher than you normally would expect, no damage, no reason to make any preparations or anything else. Miami to West Palm Beach area. Fort myers to naples, marco island area, right in here, probably what you probably consider a glancing blow for wind and for rain. Storm surge is going to be worse than you would expect for a storm so far away because it is so big. Thats whats going to surprise people. Same for tampa and all up the West Coast of florida. A lot of people, the wind and the rain, a glancing blow from a big hurricane. The Storm Surge is going to be higher than you expect with a storm like this. Thats what we have been watching. Were still waiting to see if we get any surprises, any shifts in the track. But as youve been paying attention closely too, this has been locked in here to tallahassee for 48 hours straight. I know. And the fact that it was 45 miles an Hour Yesterday when you and i were speaking, and now it is hurricane strength, it reminds me of, not trying to compare and contrast it, but im thinking of Hurricane Andrew that as it was going through the caribbean was relatively, you know, it was a storm, and then it just picked up speed and it went as a cat 5. Ill give you one thats a little more recent. When matthew was down near cancun, a tropical storm, and we know it hit next mexico beach, panama city, as a Category 5. It is not impossible this would be a category 4 and this is much bigger than the other storms. The stronger the winds going to, the further inland the effects will be major into georgia. Everyone from atlanta southward the entire city of georgia is looking at this and probably not believing the wind forecast, how windy it is going to be and Power Outages through georgia could last weeks. Bill, thanks. Lets stay very close to this story and if you happen to be watching us or listening to us on xm satellite radio, this is something that one can be very concerned about. Bill, thank you. I appreciate it. Turning now to Breaking News out of new york city, where just in the last hour ukrainian president zelensky addressed the united nations General Assembly with his country fighting a full scale russian invasion for two and a half years. Zelenskyy strongly rejected any attempts to reach a Peace Deal that did not respect the interests of the ukrainian people. When some propose alternatives, halfhearted settlement plans, socalled sets of principles, it not only ignores the interests and suffering of ukrainians, who are affected by the war the most, it not only ignores reality, but also gives putin the political space to continue the War And Pressure the world to bring more nations under control. And joining us now, Evelyn Farkas of the Mccain Institute and former Senior Adviser to Supreme Allied Commander europe. Great to see you. What does this moment for zelenskyy mean, two and a half years into this invasion . Yeah, jose, i think this is the moment where hes trying to remind everyone, first of all, that ukraine will be victorious, that russia will not be able to control ukraine, so youre either going to have an ongoing war at a low level, or youre going to side with the victor and bring this to a conclusion. And President Zelenskyy right now believes this is the right time to tell the world what is at stake, and frankly part of the timing has to do with our elections. He would like to make sure that he lines up republicans and democrats behind ukraines victory. Not a peace compromise, not a deal that allows russia with some Wiggle Room and some way out or ukrainian territory. But something that is a clear victory for the for ukraine, and frankly for the international order. Yeah, i mean, and, you know, zelenskyy is always looking to use long range weapons to strike inside russian territory. Why do you think that the united states and much of the western world have simply that have been giving weapons and from our side just, you know, Tens Of Millions of Dollars Worth of weaponry, and yet limiting how those weapons can be utilized or even not permitting him to have the weapons that would make a substantial difference . Yeah, jose, i mean, i think it is a fear of escalation that if ukraine uses these missiles against targets in russia, that somehow russia will then retaliate against the united states and nato. I think it is a misguided fear because russia does not want direct war with the united states or with nato. And so it gets back to framing this, the way that President Zelenskyy wants it framed. He wants the world to know russia is an imperial power. It is trying to exert control over ukraine and it wont stop with ukraine. And so it is really important for the international community to give ukraine the tools that it needs, these long range missiles and not to tie its hands behind its backs, not to restrict ukraine and how they use these weapons. Because the stakes are so high, it is so important. Two and a half years of bloody campaigns and all kinds of the capital, the human capital, the cost that this has caused and yet, two and a half years in, zelenskyy still cant have access to those things that could maybe make a difference. You were talking about the election coming up, and we have new reporting that the Trump Campaign has decided now not to meet with zelenskyy, a Campaign Official says that the decision came after zelenskyy implied that he had a meeting with trump, when nothing had been agreed to and after he criticized trump in a recent interview. How perilous is it for ukraine that the president of that country is commenting on politics, so close to the election . Well, i mean, it is probably wiser for President Zelenskyy not to comment directly on our elections. Having said that, you know, the republican maga, you know, leadership with President Trump and Jd Vance at the helm have been clearly isolationists, clearly advocating for policies that only help Vladimir Putin and china, not the united states of america. So, i dont blame the president of ukraine for expressing some frustration. I do think that the there are some guardrails in that congress has senior, you know, powerful republicans in the senate, certainly, who support ukraine, understand what is at stake, that this is a question of u. S. Interests and values. And that President Trump doesnt understand clearly what u. S. Interests and values are in this context certainly. Evelyn farkas, great seeing you. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you, jose. Up next, with Vice President harris is announcing today in an attempt to cut into trumps lead further among voters on the economy. Plus, new revelations coming out of a bipartisan Senate Report on the first attempt on former President Trumps life. The failures on multiple fronts. And later, breaking overnight in los angeles, a bus hijacked, passengers inside. We have got late details. Were back in 90 seconds. Youre watching Jose Diazbalart reports on msnbc. S youre watching Jose Diazbalart reports on msnbc. Super helpful. [ cheering ] what are invoices . Progressive makes it easy to see if you can save money with a commercial Auto Quote online so you can get back to all your other todos. Absolutely not. Get a quote at progressivecommercial. Com. Zyrtec Allergy Relief works fast and lasts a full 24 hours so dave can be the. Deliverer of dance. Ok, dave lets be more than our allergies. Zeize the day with zyrtec. 15 past the hour. New developments in the race for the White House in just a couple of hours in the Battleground State of pennsylvania. Vice president harris is set to deliver what her campaign is calling a major speech. Laying out her economic proposals. And in the next hour, former President Trump will deliver remarks in the Battleground State of North Carolina. Last night he was in savannah, georgia, where he said this about his plans on the economy. But with a vision im outlining today, not only will we stop our businesses for leaving for foreign lands, but under my leadership were going to take other countries jobs. Did you ever hear that expression before . Have you ever heard . That were going to take other countries jobs. It never has been stated before. Joining us now, nbcs Yamiche Alcindor from pittsburgh, Pennsylvania And Nbcs Vaughn Hillyard in mint hill, North Carolina. So, yamiche, what are we expect expecting to hear from the Vice President today . Good afternoon, jose. The Vice President as you said is set to deliver a major economic speech and her Campaign Aides tell me she wants this to be a pragmatic and practical speech about how shes going to deal with The Cost Of Living and challenges as well as the financial challenges that so many vett ervoters are telling theyre dealing with. She has some work to do here. The nbc News Poll shows that former President Trump is plus nine when you ask voters who is going to deal best with the economy and plus eight when it deals with how which candidate is going to deal with The Cost Of Living. And those two issues ive heard over and over again from voters are the issues that are not just at the top of their list, when it comes to their lives and priorities, but also the top of the list when it comes to who theyre going to vote for and how theyre going to make that decision. So the Vice President is going to come and really try to tailor this speech to voters who maybe are still wondering whether or not shes the candidate who is going to keep their challenges in mind. I was told this is really a speech where, yes, she has some policy nuggets. This is about telling voters, i hear you, i understand what youre going through, i want to make a better life for you and all americans. The other thing i want to point out, Terrence Woodbury who is doing polling for the harris campaign, he put out a statement that said first time homeowners, new parents and those dealing with the weight of Student Loan Debt have been positively impacted by the work of Vice President harris over the last four years. He also went on to say she will continue to do that work and build an Opportunity Economy if elected. We should expect to hear that, Opportunity And Economy over and over from the Vice President as she lays out her vision here, jose. Vaughn, what can we expect to hear from trump next hour in North Carolina, a state he won by less than 75,000 votes. One Battleground State he won in 2016 and 2020ing. Notable this will be his sixth campaign stop, underscoring the importance of winning North Carolina in order to get to those 270 electoral college votes here. Hes going to focus on the economy. And exactly as yamiche was outlining, when voters are consistently polled, the economy is at the forefront of a majority of their mind. And for Donald Trump, there is a realization that when you open up those polls, that consistently he was outpacing Joe Biden and now to a lesser degree but still a Tenpoint Margin among voters who say the economy is important to them, that he is doing better than Kamala Harris is. And so, for him this is about Today Painting not only a contrast with the biden administration that lasts for years but more so outlining what would be a very aggressive use of the Executive Branch to implement additional tariffs and to use the power of the White House to try to spur investment in manufacturing, and domestic production here at home. And, vaughn, i mean, part of the whole issue that many refer to as the former president s inability to stay on message, what else did we hear from trump Last Night on the economy . Reporter it was a lot about tariffs. And this is for Donald Trump, i think we have a bite that we can play here, because i think it is indicative of what we saw not only through the first trump administration, when, jose, you and i talked from soybean fields, corn fields, Mail Manufacturing plants, Steel Manufacturing plants, there are major repercussions when tariffs are placed on the imports that are coming in and ultimately paid for by american taxpayers. But for Donald Trump, he is making the case to voters and ill let you hear, hes making the case that it is worth whatever immediate financial pain that american companies may go through in order to secure further advancements in manufacturing here at home. Take a listen. The centerpiece of my plan is for a manufacturing renaissance, which will be a 15 made in america tax rate. We will put a 100 tariff on every single car coming across the mexican border. Reporter now, the results of the tariffs he placed during his first administration, we saw mixed results there. And ultimately one deal that came between china and the u. S. , china never fulfilling its obligations to buy billions of dollars of u. S. Agriculture, but for Donald Trump, he is making his case to the voters it is worth trying to place the tariffs. Yamiche and vaughn, thank you both so very much. Tonight, our very own Stephanie Ruhle sits down for an exclusive interview with Vice President harris to discuss the economy, the upcoming elections and so much more. Thats tonight, 7 00 p. M. Eastern, 4 00 p. M. Pacific, right here on msnbc. Up next, what a new Senate Report says is to blame for the first Assassination Attempt against former President Trump back in july. Well talk about that and a whole lot more with Florida Congressman Jared Moskowitz. Youre watching Jose Diazbalart reports on msnbc. M. Youre watching Jose Diazbalart reports on msnbc. Hpv vaccination a type of Cancer Prevention against certain hpvrelated cancers, can start then too. For most, hpv clears on its own. But for others, it can cause certain cancers later in life. Youre welcome now, as the dad cab, its my cue to help protect them. Embrace this phase. Help protect them in the next. Ask their Doctor Today about hpv vaccination. Mom wheres my homework . Mommy hey hun sometimes, you just need a moment. 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Nbcs Tom Winter is with us this morning. Good morning. What details stood out to you about this report . When we look at one of these reports that are done after the fact, and there is not much question about what happened here, because as you and i have been speaking about for months and the Secret Service talked about, this failure is on them. And thats because obviously somebody came very close to killing a former president and a president ial candidate in this country. So Thats Number one. But then, the big questions are how did the breakdowns begin. Were they technical in nature, communications in nature . And really it is a whole host of things. The idea that for 27 minutes they thought there was a suspicious person as you just saw there on screen, and that it took a while for these communications to occur, there was a period of time where local Law Enforcement alerted the Secret Service to the shooter in this case, Matthew Thomas Crooks told him about him. And there was a delay before the picture is sent around, wasnt sent around with the right type of urgency so the rest of the agents on the ground knew this was a potential serious problem. On the technical side, our colleague Ryan Reilly pointed this out to me this morning, that the Secret Service had a has a counter drone program, they had some signal issues, ultimately the agent that was handling had to call an 800 number for the manufacturer, they determined that the communications within this Drone System were not working right and the Secret Service had to go to the Trump Campaign and their audio visual department to get an Ethernet Cable to get this system to work. The challenge with that is Matthew Thomas Crooks, in his drone, that he had flown, had already been up and down in an 11minute Flight for a half hour after that system was able to get up and running. So i think you look at this, you look at an agency that is stretched, as we all reported, very, very thin, they have an incredible task ahead of them. They have an incredible task as i sit here in new york, less than a little more than. 8 of a mile away, the u. N. General assembly, it is a challenging time for them. The report comes as the man accused in the second attempt on Trumps Life is facing new charges. Right. It is a sparse indictment, five pages, getting the charges on the record. This was already alluded to in Federal Court during his detention hearing. Were looking at some of the sketches from that earlier this week that they would charge him with an attempted assassination and thats what they have been able to hit him with here. It is a number of charges and, of course, the Weapons Charges that he was originally brought to court for in the Control Complaint was filed against him, those remain as well. But there is now no longer any mystery according to the federal government and the fbi and the justice department, there is no longer apparent Assassination Attempt, theyre calling it an Assassination Attempt. Putting all the charges together and if maximum penalties are assigned, he could very much very likely spend the rest of his life in jail. Thats where the case goes from here. Just a filing that was placed in earlier this morning indicates approximately 15day trial according to federal prosecutors and Theyll Draw on some of the evidence that we saw earlier this week including a letter that talked about an Assassination Attempt, jose. Tom winter, thank you so very much. Appreciate it. With us now is Florida Congressman Jared Moskowitz who sits on the House Task Force on the attempted assassination of Donald Trump. Always a pleasure to see you. Thank you for your time. What do you make of the findings from the Senate Report . Well, thanks, jose, thanks for having me. I mean, at the end of the day, it looks like what the senate has come out with is what we already kind of known, been able to come out and many people concluded this at home and people in the news media, the protocols and procedures that day were not adequate. Decisions that were made on the ground were not made correctly. And there was Human Error that failed that day. Thats really what the Senate Report said, it talks about no matter how much money how many officers you throw on the ground, if you dont make the right decisions, if you dont have to write policies and procedures in place, it wouldnt matter. So, i agree with the findings that have come out in the Senate Report that quite frankly the perimeter was too small, that the line of sight to the stage from the roofline was too close and there should have been People Position Oden that roof. Yeah, and, i mean, it was tom, kind of giving us some of the details on the fact that that day, Secret Service had a problem with its own drone, had to call a 1800 number and it is almost comical if you think about it, that there is a need to call a 1800 number to talk to the manufacturer about this thing when the other person had his drone up, no problems. I know that youre going to holding your first hearing tomorrow, in the house. What should we expect from that . Well, going back to that issue, one of the questions to ask is what are the contingency plans, they brought one drone. They dont have a backup . That seems strange. There should be a contingency plan. There was a problem with communications. Different radio systems, and the like. And so we have to ask about those issues. We have seen Communications System issues in other major Emergency School shootings, different Police Departments are on different radio systems. And some of those things have gotten fixed. We got to find out why the Secret Service and local Law Enforcement arent able to communicate in real time. They got it at 22 seconds, they identified the gentleman. Thats all the time you have. Time is of the essence. Being able to communicate in real time is important. Were going to talk about what protocols and procedures have they changed since both the Butler Incident and now the Incident And Trump international Golf Course because thats been added to the purview of the house committee. Congressman, i want to turn to hurricane helene, which is barreling toward florida, could become a major hurricane. I know that in the years of public service, before you joined the house, you were director of among other things the Florida Division of Emergency Management. What are your concerns about this storm and what do you want the folks to know . Well, first, obviously, im praying for the people of the panhandle. This storm literally is going to be super close to where michael was, Category 5 storm that i actually was in charge of, the Recovery Efforts there when i became the director under governor desantis. But both the governor and the division of Emergency Management in florida have a lot of experience. The Florida Division is One Of The Best in the country. Kevin guthrie the director was my deputy at the time. He has an unbelievable amount, decades of experience dealing with this stuff. My advice to everyone is please Pay Attention. Heed the warnings of both the Florida Division of Emergency Management and local emergency manage director. This is a huge storm. It is very wide. There is going to be tropical Storm Force winds, hundreds of miles from the center. So, dont just look where the center is going. Most of the weather is to the east of the eyewall. There is going to be all sorts of Storm Surge. So if you live in a low lying area, in a Mobile Home, if you live in a flood zone, please Pay Attention to the information that both the division Emergency Management and your local Emergency Management director are putting out. This looks to be, you know, like a real event, the first real hurricane that florida is going to see this year. Congressman Jared Moskowitz, im very honored that you would spend time with us. I appreciate your time. Thanks, jose. Up next, were following Breaking News overseas, what a top Israeli Military official just told its troops about a possible entry into lebanon. Youre watching Jose Diazbalart reports on msnbc. Youre watching Jose Diazbalart reports on msnbc. Woman why did we choose safelite . Were always working on a project. While loading up our suv, one extra push and. Crack so, we scheduled at safelite. Com. We were able to track our technician and knew exactly when hed arrive. We can keep working synth Music Woman Safelite came to us. 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Today, for the first time, we are hearing the Chief Of Staff of the Israeli Military, israels top general, talking explicitly about a potential Ground Offensive into southern lebanon. Now, israeli forces last entered lebanon in 2006. They fought a bloody weeks long operation there against very well trained hezbollah fighters. Those are hezbollah forces who have a lot more experience now than they did back in 2006. But before that, israel went into southern lebanon, back in 1982, and, jose, they stayed for 20 years. That was a decision that rewrote the history of The Middle East and it seems now like israel is making another decision to send israeli forces into southern lebanon. I want to read you the key section of this statement from the Chief Of Staff of the Israeli Military, he was speaking to israeli forces here in northern israel earlier. He said, the goal is very clear, to safely return the residents of the north, he means the displaced israeli civilians who live along the border, to achieve that we are preparing the process of a maneuver, which means your Military Boots will enter enemy territory, enter villages that hezbollah prepared as large Military Outposts with underground infrastructure, Staging Points and launchpads into our territory and carry out attacks on israeli civilians. Jose, an intensive Bombing Campaign can be deescalated quickly, which is something the united states is trying to do right now to try to avoid this Situation Hurdling into allout war. If israeli Ground Forces cross the border, just maybe 20 miles or so north of where we are right now, it is very, very difficult to unwind that. It is hard to see how an israeli Ground Offensive does not lead to a very protracted and very deadly conflict. 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Shell be seeking to counterbalance former President Trump who has made an Immigration Issue and has been driving that behind his campaigns issues and messages. Trump currently leads the Vice President on immigration by more than 20 points among registered voters, according to recent nbc polling. Joining us this morning, Nbc News Contributor paola ramos, author of the new book defectors. Paola, you were just in arizona, you were there last week. How is the issue of immigration playing there and how is it different there than maybe in other states . Absolutely, i think lets remember that immigration is deeply personal for a lot of folks in arizona. This is a state where Joe Biden won in November Of 2020 by less than 1 , jose. And part of the reason why he was able to win that vote is because latino voters that make up over a quarter of eligible voters in the Battleground State like arizona, latino voters there were mobilized and inspired by the promise that Joe Biden made specifically on comprehensive immigration reform. They were mobilizing and inspired by this idea that he was able to really distance himself from Donald Trump, from the cruelty and the way he had completely dehumanized immigrants at the southern border and that was a winning message for them. And so, in a state like arizona, where there are so many mixed status families, where there are thousands of dreamers, where there are hundreds of thousands of undocumented people, in a state like arizona, that still carrieds the trauma of Juror Arpaio and that is currently facing a proposition that threatens to take that state back to the days of joe arpaio, i wonder if the Vice President s messaging on immigration which are center right would work in a place like that. I think people are looking for something different. I think theyre looking more for a 2020 message. I wonder if that will really stick with people there. You know, im wondering, paola, i remember how much of an impact sb1070 had on arizona. And not just the impact that it had when it was instituted, but then later as it was chiselled away because that sb1070 still carry a weight in arizona . It carries so much weight. Jose. I was talking to so many people. Right now, so folks understand, theres an Immigration Ballot in the arizona november election. What that ballot would do is deputize officers. Its taking people back. Latino families are going back. I was having conversations with voters that are talking about the idea of selfdeporting if Donald Trump wins in november. They are talking amongst themselves. I talked to a mother that is trying to figure out who would have custody of her u. S. Born children if Donald Trump wins. That trauma doesnt leave. That trauma mobilizes people like it did in november 2020. The question is, will the Vice President be able to reenergize people having a more positive Immigration Message or not . Trump is leading harris by more than 20 points on this issue. Why is this disparity so wide . First, let me say, i just started paolas book. I find it fascinating. I urge everybody to read it. It gets into an area we rarely talk about, that i think is super important. Look, i dont think this race is about immigration. I think that shes going to continue to trail on immigration. But for most people, immigration is not their Number One issue. It doesnt affect that many people. I think to the degree that the Trump Campaign has overstepped this, like what they have done in springfield, it refuses the effectiveness of the message. If you go back to reagan, he announced in front of the Statue Of Liberty as a sign to welcome immigrants. His last speech was an ode to immigrants. He signed a bill that made in the country before 1976 legal. Theres a part of the republican party that finds this whole tone of this to be distasteful and angry and hurtful and not productive. I think were not going to be sitting there on Election Night and say Vice President harris lost on immigration. Paola, i am so proud for so many reasons and on so many levels of you and what you are, accomplishing and your strength and just im not going to get into it. Im so proud. You make me blush. Lets take about defectors. The rise of the latino far right. Among the things you highlight, is the growing number of latinos, many immigrants or children of immigrants who oppose unrestricted immigration. Explain how that apparent dichotomy exists. I think just as a bottom line, we should be alarmed at the idea that someone like Donald Trump in a state like arizona is Polling Close to 40 with latino voters. Part of that is because there is a small but growing group of latino voters warming up to the idea of mass deportation. What trumpism is betting on is this idea that theres a segment of latinos that have become so americanized and so assimilated that they, too, can tap into the nativism and they can tap into the us versus them game. Theres research out there to ground us in the fear that some latinos are feeling in this moment. When you look at the way antilatino Hate Crimes have been rising over the last eight years, you know when it really spikes, when mainstream media, when Donald Trump, when politicians pay so much attention to this idea of and invasion at the southern border, this idea of chaos, of immigrants being criminals. There are some latinos that dont want to be lumped with immigrants, that want to protect themselves from that type of discrimination and hatred. That explains why some latinos in the quest to prove they are american would find something appealing in trumpism. Thank you both so very much. Come back and talk more about the book. Appreciate it. Thank you. Up next, Brain Ingbreaking in los angeles. A Metro Bus hijacked with passengers on board. How police were able to stop it. You are watching Jose Diazbalart reports on msnbc. R. Millions of americans who have Medicare And Medicaid but may be missing benefits they could really use. 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Joining us now is Lauren Coronado in los angeles. What happened here . Reporter we are talking about a chaotic series of events here in downtown l. A. , ending here, i should say. This is a busy part of downtown. We are talking next to the arts district. They are finally able to reopen the street as you can see here. We are told the Metro Bus driver used a Panic Button which alerted police. Officers with the lapd say an armed man hijacked the bus around 12 45 early this morning in south l. A. About 15 minutes from where we are at now. He demanded the driver keep driving and led police on a chase to downtown l. A. Some passengers were able to escape and get off the bus. S. W. A. T. Was called out to help. After an hour, Law Enforcement got on the bus and the Wanted Man surrendered. Officers found a passenger shot multiple times. That person was rushed to the hospital where he died. The driver and another passenger were rescued and not injured. Keep in mind, this happened within Innocent Bystanders nearby as well. Detectives are working to review video from inside the Metro Bus to piece together what led up to these intense moments. As for the man now in custody, an lapd officer tells me he is expected to face Murder Charges because he is the man believed to have shot a passenger while on the bus. Live in downtown l. A. , im Lauren Coronado. Thank you so very much. That wraps up the hour for me. Im Jose Diazbalart. Thank you for the privilege of your time. Andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. Right now on Andrea Mitchell reports, the Battleground Blitz is underway as Vice President harris heads to pittsburgh to give a speech on the economy. Her eighth trip to pennsylvania since she got the nomination. Former President Trump returning to North Carolina today after announcing that u. S. Intelligence briefed him that iran