Charges against huawei including conspiring to steal trade secrets we have from the need for caution in considering license applications the u. S. Continues to have Major Concerns about way this comes as america heightens its Global Campaign for its allies to ban wall was equipment into their next generation of 5 g. Networks but just weeks ago in a blow to the United States u. K. Dismissed terms claims and they said that it would allow always 5 g. Into the country at least into its nonsensitive parts. We for us at least the. People of this country the consumers. They will. Want you to whatever. Does your family who. Are Critical Infrastructure security. Are. Working together with other. Cars right. Now despite the u. K. s decision the Trump Administration is now moving on to warning germany u. S. Ambassador to germany Richard Grinnell said President Trump personally called him to make clear that any nations who chooses to use an untrustworthy 5 g. Bender will jeopardize that u. S. Intel sharing at the highest level of the move also comes just one week after u. S. Officials accused weiwei of spying for the Chinese Government using a backdoor is designed for use by Law Enforcement although no evidence was provided on the access of the alleged back door u. S. Officials said they have been aware of it for over a decade u. S. Leadership is still issuing warnings saying choosing walk away is choosing a talker see over democracy. This is very dangerous this is that choosing to see over the sea and these nations the way its. Putting the state police in every consumer in these countries because of the chinese way. While we has repeatedly denied the allegations that it serves as a spy for the Chinese Government well to clear this all up and more were now joined by always chief Security Officer andy purdy thank you so much for your time were very excited to dig right in but i want to start with these latest allegations that while we install these back doors into equipment for the 1st time the United States is saying that they have proof have you or wall anyone from always been presented with any evidence was interesting the u. S. Government says that the declassified the information so we welcome the opportunity to see what the evidence is but we really have to look at this in the broader context of the ongoing geo political dynamic between the u. S. And china the u. S. Has some major issues with china and right now the u. S. Wants to hurt china so badly that theyre going to hurt america in trying to her way and thats really a shame it is and right now the Trump Administration is trying to move forward with these chip regulations to block shipments from the Worlds Largest contract chip maker taiwan ts and c. And thats always one of big always biggest suppliers so its all even prepared for Something Like this to happen there weve been very working very hard on this socalled plan b. I got back from some very intense meetings in china more than 2 weeks ago and saw the progress that were making right now were selling our 5 g. Equipment around the world with no american components as you may know more than nearly 300 American Companies want to sell the water we spent over 11000000000 dollars last year this can impact 40000. 00 american jobs directly so these jobs are on the line if america decides for some unknown reason theyre not going to allow American Companies to sell the wall which would be a big mistake now i want to go back to these these back doors that were looking at the u. S. Accusing wall way of. I mean weve weve seen the United States ask a lot of these tech giants like apple and facebook for example to build these back doors they however have said no is this kind of the same thing that were seeing then with wa is it is it true that we should just believe that every single private company has some sort of back doors to the government well if you look back some years ago when i brought snowden revealed information about the u. S. Program prism and about the 5 Year Campaign of the u. S. Government to spy on operation shop giant where they monitored all while we network for 5 years and could not find any Improper Communications and in the Prison Program they found that the u. S. Government used for example cisco equipment to spy round the world most recently the Washington Post crypto 8 g. A Swiss Company that turned out is controlled by the cia so theyve been monitoring encrypted communications of all the countries in the world except for china and russia so the fact is it is important to recognize the role of the equipment vendors and the telecom and mobile operators all the countries in the world have laws that basically say to the Telecom Equipment. The telecom and mobile operators that when there is a lawful process they have to provide access we saw in the equipment we dont provide the access we just have the equipment that they can prove there are equipment into to have that access we dont have access to that is there then a back door there is a lawful backdoor by the telecom the mobile operators that is triggered by lawful action by government such as the u. S. Government of china government we dont have that access we dont control that data and that brings us back to that 2017 law China Chinese Companies are then required to work with the Chinese Government is that right well the fact is thats not right and its really interesting where you hear 2 different points of view one is the u. S. Government says that while way and other companies are required to put in back doors and are required to spy the law says no such thing the china government says the law does not apply but then the u. S. Government says well the law doesnt matter because china is not a little rule of law a nation. China would force wall way to do whatever they want but we have protections in place in our partnership were trusted around the world we cant send the china government or the u. S. Government data that we dont have there are processes and technologies in place to make sure that we only access what were given permission to and then every keystroke is logged and recorded so the carriers the customers they can see whats been accessed and by whom what happened to it fully automobile so we can prove were not subject to the young do influence of the china government in that respect now real quick while i have a few lawsuits against the us the latest was against arising for its plans arguing that rising needs to pay for the variety of technologies patented so whats the update to that well the fact is that litigation is pending but we have to remember when you look at things like patent protection why way has received about 1600000000. 00 for the use of our patents weve spent 6000000000. 00 over the last 5 years for multiple companies to be allowed to use their patent their intellectual property over 80 percent of those companies were American Companies so right now we look at all these unlike your property lawsuits in the last 10 years apple had 596 lawsuits samsung had 526 we had 209 lawsuits this is common in that industry i want to ask you one thing before we go on to the next topic why do you think that the United States and the media who has presented this whole information sometimes like you said even without evidence why is the media is so strong and so aggressive toward weiwei whats your take well some of the media it looks like they want to get access to information and exclusives so that they can write a story and get attention of being the 1st story so weve seen some situations recently where the u. S. Government apparently with a special relationship with the news media outlet puts a story out that is not based on facts and sometimes we get to respond sometimes we dont but the fact is weve got to use facts such as the u. K. Government is used to make a. Their decisions about war now from what it looks like chua way is basically a private company that is unfortunate kind of caught in the middle of a spat between the u. S. And china and the u. S. Kind of wants to make an example out of them the u. S. Now spent millions of dollars and went on this entire 18 month Long Campaign around the world to ways awareness of the so humiliated when the u. K. Refused to exclude from its 5 g. Broadband network now make no mistake this is a total humiliation not only is the u. K. One of the strongest allies of the u. S. But also never in the course of all of americas history have so many said too much to so little effect so we spoke about all the allegations and accusations aimed directly at huawei but now lets move on to what perhaps a represents and why that might be the bigger threat that the u. S. Perceives so to sort the u. S. Defense from those so the consequences to the United States are going to be very great and because of this hostility toward china america is not thinking about this in the sense of based on whats best for the United States and thats the you talked a little bit earlier in the show about the geopolitics that comes with all this and a little bit about the u. S. China trade war now the phase one deal was signed off not too long ago where it included some some wording on i p intellectual property theft do you expect while we have been at the heart of this trade war for a while kind of since the beginning when people in the u. S. Didnt even know who i was until this trade war started i you one could argue but do you think the Chinese Government will vouch for awhile way do you think while we will be included in some sort of phase 2 us china trade deal no i think thats pretty unlikely and im not sure that its very likely that there will be a phase 2 i hope for the benefit of the Global Economy that the u. S. And china can reach some major agreements so the trade can be enhanced this idea of somebody does a tariff and somebody increases the tariff somebody does this and somebody escalates that doesnt help anybody we have to look at these issues and try to. To fix these issues without continuing to escalate because escalating is going to hurt the citizens of both countries and in fact a Global Economy now exists outside of law where the us and actually most Global Regulators for that matter have all in recent years have somewhat been threatened by Technology Things that they dont understand or dont have control of our Technology Like quality Facebook Google alibaba amazon comic cetera all of them have come under attack in recent years as policy makers attempt to curb their rise to power because lets face it kind of in this new age the most powerful people in the world are now beholden to Companies Like google who indiscriminately collect data on them or facebook deciding whats news and whats fake controlling the narrative of its audience of over 2000000000 active users so while this is an obvious type who are now between the u. S. And china with ali caught in the middle do you think that there could be a sort of reorganization in the global hierarchy as tech leaders rise to power and influence and the old guard kind of becomes irrelevant well i certainly think there geopolitical consequences around the world i do think issues between the u. S. And china we have to remember the role of europe we have to remember that europe sees itself as a major competitor in the global marketplace and europe wants to be taken seriously and some of the recent geopolitical dynamics of the europe may feel like theyre not being treated fairly well things we want to encourage is china has some advantages some ways china can make Big Investments and do big projects and clear away obstacles and make things happen but of course they can make stupid mistakes and waste an awful lot of money in the process the u. S. For example needs a Public Private partnership to Work Together to figure out whats in the strategic interest of the United States how can the United States advance its innovation its that technology how can we roll out that technology to benefit organizations benefit individuals weve talked about the force and just your revolution kind of the Technology Revolution so this technology can enable that job growth enable bringing Computing Power to the endpoint for the benefit of organizations insists it is. In a lot of different ways so weve got to have those smart folks come together to develop for the u. S. A Technology Industrial strategy as to what needs to happen how we can measure progress and what the most important things are in research and development but globally the public and private sector working together to create and strengthen uniform standards conformance programs and independent testing to make sure the Telecom Operators and mobile operators are doing what they need to do and to make sure the Equipment Suppliers are doing what they need to do because cyber risk is really a shared responsibility. Technology stand by because we have more to discuss in just a few minutes. Time now for a quick break but hang there because when we return and he pretty of comes back to discuss the fate of 5 g. Around the world and what this ordeal has done to the companys business as we go to break here the closing numbers. So. Leg. Length. The. Simplest stylists. Playing. Very well now continue watching on since last. 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Advanced than the competition and lets welcome back andy pretty chief Security Officer with weiwei technologies usa and the lets start with simplifying it for the average viewer 5 g. What is the difference between a walk away and its main competitors which are ericsson and nokia what differentiates weiwei with the 3 major areas that 5 g. Is bringing which is going to help bring Computing Power to the edge one has to do with the speed and the amount of data that can pass in a quick manner the other is latency so that the Response Time is short dramatically so when you look at autonomous driving you look at the the ability to stop the car based on the most current data rather than stopping in one meter maybe youll stop in one centimeter terms of remote surgery the ability to have the really fine tune connections so there is theres really no pause the ability to have sensors and machine to machine communication to make very important decisions on our vertical industries and finally the the multiple connections a particular area some of this can benefit in the consumer space for example so if youre at a sports stadium for example and youve got your mobile device and maybe there are 50 cameras around the stadium youd be able to play back whichever of those videos you want to because theres so much connectivity its going to be a very important thing so this is going to would enable this 4th revolution bringing Computing Power to the end then its going to make the lives of people that i was that different from your competitors nokia and ericsson so we can handle more speed more amounts of data in terms of latency we are at the front end of the of the latency of the shortening of the Response Time and in terms of multiple devices we can we can service a whole lot more devices and our equipment provides a much smaller Carbon Footprint so the Energy Efficiency can be absolutely tremendous eriksen recently said that a isnt actually that far ahead in the 5 g. Space and thats what they said they its that they are just as competitive on 5 g. So. What do you have to say to that well let me say this in a couple respects last year the chief Technology Officer of British Telecom one of the major Telecom Operators he said there is really only one provider in the world of Telecom Equipment talking about why and what i would say is rather than me saying were better one of these we ought to encourage in the United States and around the world is lets have open competitions lets have opportunities to demonstrate the different aspects of the technology so people can see for themselves and similarly we ought to have some of the equipment like right now in mobile devices you know we open up our Telecom Mobile equipment to the white house hackers to see whether their vulnerabilities the Telecom Equipment vendors ought to do the same thing in a recognized Alive Networks but get the equipment and that white house to hackers to look for the vulnerabilities lets encourage this kind of transparency this kind of competition to help drive everybody to do better and give a little more of an objective basis for knowing where folks stand in the competition do you consider while way a capitalist company are you capitalists oh absolutely and in the sessions that we had in china recently as we are trying to adapt this plan b. Of where were going to have to find other technologies to support what we do around the world and we try to prioritize those things that are most important because if we have to find more sources we dont want to keep supporting products that arent as good so this is going to enable us to have a refresh and i predict that in the next 2 or 3 years when you look at the manifestations of the kinds of briefings i receive you will see that in that period of time theres going to be a much greater recognition that while we as one of the most Impressive Companies in the world driven by an entrepreneurial spirit a spirit to meet our customer demands within the context of laws and regulations now are looking at them and tayshaun what markets currently hold. You know im not really sure what the markets are as im thinking its like 20 or 30 percent when we look at the market though i think we see you have to have a Business Case for the. Tickler Telecom Operator who is going to be trying to advance of technology and 5 g. Is going to be rolling out in stages over the years the 1st one is speed which is really the Consumer Devices but a number of the other ones are going to be over time and so the Telecom Operators they dont want to invest any more than they have to because they want to invest and get a recoupment of their investment so around the world as we look at the situation and the vigil countries so its not just global you see well were used to be on the spectrum thats necessary where do you stand on colocating the poles getting rid of the regulations making sure you comply with the electronic the e. M. F. Exposure to make sure everybodys going to be safe so its every country in the world has to make those decisions and it makes it a fascinating situation around the world. Now in light of the recent indictments the clearly trying to turn on the pressure for a while like painting a picture of a company that has reportedly misappropriated intellectual property but how much of that is actually true microsoft president and chief legal officer brad smith says that the way the u. S. Government is treating way is quote unamerican citing that u. S. Regulators have failed to demonstrate to microsoft any concrete proof of wrongdoing so lets talk about the business of how this giant mess has affected business and competition so andy huawei has been on the u. S. Black list for nearly a full year now how does this actually impacted business and reputation now that need to spend so much time on p. R. And legal matters rather than focusing on are indeed it seems like a colossal waste of time money and resources well its interesting when you look at our global revenue numbers year over year for 29 to 18 percent you compare that to to our competitors theres no question that there was an impact on our ability to buy from the American Companies our revenues would have been quite a bit greater than that. And in fact as we move into 2020 its going to be a challenging time. Statement by our rotating c. E. O. Talked about the fact that the global environ. Right there is concerned about that the Business Environment may be slowing around the world the environment of individual countries it depends on their situation in terms of their capability to buy the transition moving into that roll out of 5 g. Is going to affect the speed and timing of the of the realization of revenue flows this strengthening then your position working around having to work around it well we think that in the next year or 2 our position we much stronger than it was but theres no question that this will be sort of a difficult year we expect to have an increase in revenue but compared to what it might have been it will not be as robust but as i said by the new things were doing the efforts were making both internally and with other suppliers and increasing our research and development from 15000000000 dollars last year to 20000000000. 00 we believe the pair forward is very bright now one idea of limiting dominance surface recently again this idea that us should take a controlling stake in nokia and ericsson or both even to battle hallways dominance in 5 g. So isnt this not hypocritical when one of the oldest accusations where the way has use these unproven chinese ties to the government with backdoor so wouldnt this actually be worse as the u. S. Government would have a controlling stake with an undeniable backdoor will we encourage competition so if the United States efforts whether its investing in tokyo ericsson or creating a new American Company if it can create real competition i think it would be good for cyberspace right now nokia and ericsson Great Companies theyre not really as strong as they need to be they cant really invest in the amount of research and development they need to be i just hope when the United States is going to make these decisions of whether and how and when to invest in what way that smart people come together to make determinations not just based on gut reaction to china but whats best for the United States whats best in terms of the technology what is possible what is necessary and one can actually come to fruition because if youre going to spend a whole lot of money thats not going. Come out till 6 thats a different calculation that if you can come out later this year or so i just hope people make informed decisions about what is possible and what can really benefit United States and if they do that thats great well thank you so much andy purdy chief Security Officer at walkway technologies usa weve learned a lot today a hopefully we could that weve been able to tell the audience and the average viewer what wall weighs about and asked all those important questions and well see whether or not this chip manufacturing band moves forward because again the trumpet werent sure of trump will sign off sign off on it but we will keep up the development thank you so much and youre welcome thank you for having me well thats it by this time you can catch boom bust on demand on the brand impossible t. V. Available on smartphones the google play and the Apple App Store by searching for both t. V. Or streamers to your t. V. By downloading the portable t. V. App on apple t. V. 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