When so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. Nuclear power plants have become a battleground in the u. S. In vermont people are demanding the shut down of a local plant from my yankee is right now my focus because its a very dangerous oh no clare power plant the owner is attempting to run the reactor beyond its operational limit this case just sort of puts a magnifying glass on wheres the power in this country wheres it going is it moving more towards corporate interests who or is it more in the idea of a traditional participatory democracy is a power lie with the people this case demonstrates that struggle in the very real way. The struggle on r. T. One on one with alexei like a c. E. O. Of russias Atomic Energy corporation rosa tom on this edition of paula take a. Look at the politicking on larry king a few days ago i had a chance to talk to alexei look at shelf director general of the Atomic Energy corporation russell an office he has sold in 2016 missed the linkage of joining me for an interview during which we talked about cooperation between the United States and russia in the Nuclear Industry and why that cooperation has lessened in recent years bilateral security and the impact of the emerging green energy field on Nuclear Energy among other things heres the 1st part of that interview watch. L. M. C. Thanks for being with us this year marks the 75th anniversary of the russian Nuclear Industry and were going to talk about that anniversary in a few moments but does the term does the term Nuclear Industry scare a lot of people in russia. No just go to medical environment so you have a thought well frankly speaking i havent heard anyone saying it scares them since the 1st days of Nuclear Energy even in the soviet union this industry was a vector of developments one of the key vectors of development of our country and my teachers those who taught me to manage this industry they always spoke about 2 key projects the soviet atom and the soviet space. These were the 2 main project that helped our country to stay actively ahead of the curve. And these were the drivers of our economic and technological progress. And we maintain this vector even today. Were looking at new technologies and new vectors new fields of science. I meet a lot of people a lot of specialists in our industry and lot of people in russia. When they think about the Nuclear Industry they think of it as a matter of pride. Of course there are always opponents but there are always people who dont like something though the number is minimal we continue to work even with these people and i would like to emphasize that the majority of people view the russian Nuclear Industry as a kid vantage of russia its a matter of National Pride why Nuclear Energy over hydropower. What i thought we could anybody say well have you ever lived close to a hydroelectric power plant no. Not yet i go out because actually i would love all year i grew up near the volga near to artificial lakes when we create these artificial bodies of water you change the climate fundamentally and the consequences for the rivers a drastic and quite negative a lot of artificial bodies of water were created where i lived and still there are a lot of issues that persist ecological and otherwise. But in russia we have many rivers a lot of territory and it is possible to use our land actively crispy king of countries with little water with mountainous landscape where the climate is very hot or maybe where rivers freeze over in the winter hydro energy is difficult to walk a nice them but youre correct in terms of c o 2 emissions hydro electricity is of course still a leading source of energy but in terms of c o 2 emissions and 0 effects on the environment its of course the Nuclear Energy which takes the 1st place. This summer it was announced that preparations are underway in russia to build 4 new power reactors is construction started and is it underway and what impact has the coronavirus had on these 2 projects. Let it. Hit us that you on steroids thought so we see bia well mr king we continue to build Nuclear Power stations power plants in russia for 2 reasons 1st of all we have to show our foreign partners that we can create safe and productive Nuclear Power plants those that we present to them as reference so that they can build them in their countries so we create these reference plants in russia and the 2nd reason is that president putin said the trend towards increasing the share of Nuclear Energy in the total production of energy in russia i think that in russia and in u. S. Nuclear Energy Accounts for about 19 percent of all Energy Produced in the absolute champion in this respect of course france where Nuclear Energy accounts for 75 percent of all Energy Produced we dont wish to energy units at one Nuclear Power plants and there are a couple of other energy units launching 2 that were Building Nuclear units at the core sky Nuclear Power plant and as you said we decide to build 5 more energy units has that coronavirus slowed any of this down. News crew oil got on those vehicles thats also why you really are near the well to tell you the truth kevin 1000 did have some effect on our progress in the 1st half of 2020 we did not complete the plans in full but we will do everything we can to complete these plans until the year is over and weve been very disciplined even before the pandemic started in russia there was a headquarters of the Nuclear Industry which we launched and we isolated key personnel key staff at Nuclear Power plants so these people were living separately from everyone else even from their families and this way they were able to maintain a cycle of work which was unchanged and it didnt stop even during the cave in 1000 epidemic so we had some very good results currently there is some growth in terms of infections in russia this has to do with the seasonal flu and other reasons that have to do with the full butts we accrue prating with all the installation cities and Nuclear Power plants and i hope the 2nd wave which is probably coming in autumn we will be able to overcome it but i have to agree with you that there were some effects from the pandemic but most critically the effect of the pandemic was felt in the way that affected our foreign partners because some of them were able to effectively overcome them for example in china theyre working ahead of plan but in india theyre lagging behind weve been working with them for quite some time and unfortunately weve lost a lot of time there but were still optimistic even in the most difficult times in april and may we have thousands of people transferred from one plant to another. Here in the United States more d and more consumers especially younger americans are demanding a Green Energy Alternatives to fossil fuels and nuclear. Is there a similar push for that in russia. In the wash so say the look what i came out i was here to me one of the chance to get the whole place in on there that again well your question consists of 2 parts lets divide it up to the question of issue of green energy and Nuclear Energy and the challenges associated with it so speaking of green energy the Current Energy balance in the world looks this way to thirtys hydrocarbon so Energy Production of coal oil natural gas. One 3rd is Renewable Power sources Wind Solar Energy hydroelectric energy. And a 3rd of a 3rd to 11 percent is Nuclear Energy this is the Energy Balance in the world today after the paris climate agreement was signed and i hope the u. S. Will rejoin it in the future there is a goal to change the paradigm by 2050 so that 2 thirds are about 70 percent of all energy in the world is produced through Renewable Energy sources without Nuclear Energy its impossible to solve this problem there is a very telling example with germany chancellor merkel decided to freeze the german Nuclear Industry and as a result of that the cost of one kilowatt hour price rose from 11 year a sense to 31. 00 euro cents so and the consumer now in total has to pay over 11000000000. 00 euros in Nuclear Energy production was largely replaced not just by wind energy but by coal currently the french Energy Production produces a 3rd less amount of c o 2 compared to germany i would like to emphasize that all ways of producing energy in the world known to science can only be used together in unity. Is what we called green square hydra electric Energy Solar Energy wind energy and Nuclear Energy these a 4 key sources of green energy but not all of the source is a playable in russia for example solar energy do you know how many sunny days we had in moscow last december. And no. One last and once we have the 1st one to come here and you just the same but we had only 8 hours of sun well i think i have smug about it but i see what youre as you know when youre so speaking about the use of solar energy in russia is a difficult matter. Neither in russia where were talking about moving from 20 percent of Nuclear Energy to 25 percent of Nuclear Energy nor in the world where this energy shift would require us to give up hydro carbons neither of these issues can be resolved without the use of Nuclear Energy. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking about the ecological aspect of the green aspect of the Nuclear Energy indeed i have to agree with you. In general of course youre right Public Opinion has a lot to do with Nuclear Energy production. Well. There are 2 things there are preventing us from moving forward. One of these is the accidents of the past that we have to remember to take into account and learn lessons from them. That the 2nd reason that keeps us behind is the need to work with what we call the new clear legacy. And he human activity results in waste industrial waste general waste sometimes harmful waste. But. Some waste can even be as harmful as Nuclear Waste. You know you can harm the environment as well as Human Society but you can store this waste or you can recycle it so the plan that russia has is to recycle waste. And we treat spent nuclear fuel not as waste but as another different type of fuel. We take this spent nuclear fuel from the stations that we deliver it to the east at 24 countries. We produce this is fuel and we use the resulting products. So we inject it back into the fuel cycle thats reducing Nuclear Waste to a minimum. But there is the problem that we face not all technological issues have been resolved. But we do not support storing Nuclear Waste we support recycling and reusing fuel. And we have technologies for that we call it a closed fuel cycle american specialists know very well about this unfortunately in the u. S. At some point work on closed fuel cycle projects were phased out at some point. But not european counterparts and some other countries and many members of the international Atomic Energy agency still believe that this is the future of Nuclear Energy. And they believe that the use of thermal neutron reactors and fast neutron react is a way to use spent nuclear fuel to recycle it. Politicking continues right after this. We did a survey just about a month into the pandemic and found that people said they lost 35 minutes a day less to unwanted interruptions at home which was kind of a surprise because you know with all the things that are going on until right now this is not the best of times to be to be doing it. And so thats one element the other element is they tend to give back 50 percent of the time that they would have otherwise spent commuting. To politicking or turning now to my interview with alexei look at each of the director general of the Atomic Energy corporation russia. In the 2nd part of this interview we talk about the 1st of its kind floating Nuclear Power plants in the arctic which critics have dubbed that show no bowl on ice and a little bit about the possibility of mining in space heres part 2 of that interview. The United States and russia have a unique position of influence and expertise in nucleus Security Matters the 2 nations have worked effectively on these issues in the past bilaterally and together the cooperation seems to have lessened in recent years is that true and what do you attribute it to. What would our absolute power have yes. If up off yes you are correct theres a number of stages and the development of relations between our Nuclear Industries between the us and former soviet union now russia of course most importantly the political atmosphere dictated the way we communicated if you remember the projects we were implementing in the 1980 s. Was the thermo Nuclear Energy project. Starting from the 1993 to 2014 the Nuclear Industries were communicating in cooperating quite actively. We had some projects that had to do with enriching uranium and for quite some time any 10th lamp in any light bulb in the u. S. Was shining thanks to russias uranium. Weve had delegations coming from the u. S. To russia and the other way around between russia and the u. S. Nuclear cities Los Alamos Livermore sneakiness all of you. We discussed a number of issues that they built contacts and they still remember these meetings quite fondly. For the past 7 to 8 years the Political Developments that weve seen globally cost a shadow on our relations but we still have business contacts as an example we have had corporation with General Electric on a number of International Platforms we have been implementing some Global Projects on turbines on Nuclear Power plant equipment. And in this respect our cooperation is worth several 1000000000. 00 is all of the oregonian that you source is that come from mines in russia. Nami morgan what i would say. Not all of it so. You are a little bit short of our own uranium we import some from abroad we cooperate with kazakstan. Because of. The boys you know we have a big shame kazakstan is mining companies. But the only thing but you know in the more anya that shook the thought what do you think were let go but we also reducing the need for new uranium by recycling fuel as i talked about before. When we used spent fuel and reuse it. Also used weapons grade plutonium is also a large part of our fuel. Walks. And the new types if you like remakes fuel for us the basis for innovative reacted. So the Energy Systems that will allow us to reduce the radioactive exchange with nature to a minimum or rather there will be balance but we will bury as much Nuclear Material in the earth as weve extract from it. Because. Thats restoring the natural balance. Because it will be. A russian mines opened to companies outside of russia for mineral extraction. Whats money to. Slow up here. But. Its but but it will not war on the us which is the days when. You know 6 ports you radio we export enrich uranium products at some stage and it is something we have contracts about across the world in 1903 and i believe that up the profumo mural. We see were not such that on mira. Will. Just lay out what in latin but not have so far we also work with our partners in the us in europe in latin america in south africa. You could have a glove of this a lot of the what he shared in national when you got in there some heads of state of also visited our Uranium Mines and people and theyve seen how good our safety requirements are like that i would it not. Is there a future in space mining. Not. Let your hero get in or on that look i guess you recently acquired to now but up to me is actually taking a look 1st of all if we optimize Current Technologies the minerals that we have here on earth would be quite because when you talk about mining these minerals on the moon or on mars is something for Science Fiction at this point. Even if we do that this time your brain will be more precious than Precious Metals in terms of its cost. You your company developed the 1st is 1st floating Nuclear Power station has been in service about 9 months sun critics have dubbed the show noble on ice or the floating machine noble what happens in the event scary enough of a Nuclear Incident in the arctic. Bloody civil. War which im sure a lot would have more than the whites. You can attribute this label the floating chernobyl to any Nuclear Aircraft carrier or any nucleus submarine. The point is that are floating Nuclear Power plant we have special marine react is that have a capacity to work accident free for millions of years. Weve tested that operation in our ships icebreakers it means that any parallel to chernobyl is absolutely groundless furthermore we have a comprehensive system in place aimed at monitoring the station and the adjacent area which hosts the city of pavlik. It is the northern most Nuclear Facility in the world and vie in to visit this place and see for yourself we will handle it just sticks and you will see the most important thing how warm hearted me this facility was welcomed by local citizens it is establishment is a major impetus for the Regions Development a total of 86000000 kilowatt hours have already been processed. Apart from electricity it also provides heat now the city looks absolutely different at the same time you have raised a very important topic ecology of the arctic to be honest in cooperation with the International Community in the 1st place with our neighbors fin way norway sweden as well as other European Countries including italy france spain where running a major project unfortunately all post generations it does not pertain to the soviets only it covers those from other countries as well to put it mildly. Those that did not take really seriously the Nuclear Legacy. It is resulted in stockpiles of large volumes of process nuclear fuel toxic heavy metal submarine reactors pieces of nuclear floating vessels surface vessels for the last 5 years weve been working hard to recycle this radioactive waste. Im proud to tell you that our work is a benchmark you will not find anywhere anything similar to our project aimed at managing the Nuclear Legacy our foreign partners go there not only to oversee but also to learn from our experience they open similar enterprises based on our technologies. This year marks the 75th anniversary of your company where do you see your industry going in 75 years from now oh yes i do so i hope that in 75 years ill be able to invite you to celebrate our 105th anniversary. Well except when it starts we will do our best that were going to technology is in medicine create miracles. Look larry our goal for the upcoming 75 years includes 2 pots. These parts are as inseparable as the 2 sides of a coin 1st of all well be developing nuclear technologies. I refer to what ive talked about more than Nuclear Energy with a closed fuel cycle roughly speaking it refers to waste free Nuclear Energy. And of course the thermo Nuclear Industry the future of Nuclear Energy it is a small star which mankind will open sooner or later for itself. But the technologies which have come out as a result of our work are another side of this coin. They include new materials Carbon FibersAdditive TechnologiesDigital Products and quantum computing. It also involves major ecology projects apart from radioactive waste weve started managing industrial waste from the 1st and 2nd catch agrees more dangerous ones a government granted us the authority to carry out this work so i guess apart from our capability to restore order in the industry in russia we can claim the world leadership in this field of course it spans nucleus signs and an Indepth Research of the matter space projects and the exploration of outer space so in 75 years we would like to achieve success similar to one in Nuclear Energy in those industries we stem from a work. Out as russia look at the american elections so if the excess goes euro about the well thats what it looks were starting to listen if i answer this question now later russia would be accused of meddling. Im afraid of causing a whole string of allegations against russia and god forbid sanctions against myself thanks so much for talking with us thank you i think we have a watch out so i thank you i was very glad to get to know you its a big on of for me. Thank you for joining me on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on my Facebook Page or tweet me at kings things dont forget use the politicking hashtag about saul so this edition of politicking. My name is sucking. On the media thats exactly what i dont see just a. Bit over there. When you know weve got to get it out. Can you help me move. You know the speech and i use that down 6 to make it a date easier and also to make school on drugs used to focus. Who support the school clubs because the clubs do really hes trying to fit life music that. I love to jazz because he makes me happy i love to dance because he makes me unhappy playing with to food. And when you go. Beyond. 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