Vandalism, ad the indian consecrate. Law makers in congress have set a deadline of april 18th for a response to be formulated on what action to take. All right, lets cross now live to uh, all right hand do American Foundation co found dies to hodge. Sure. Blah. Is nice to have you join me right now. Uh, yeah. So hodge. So lawmakers are demanding action. But what exactly is the Hindu Community expecting the f b i and the d o g to say and do. What are the chances that the p u would even simply be ignored or something will been done about this . Well, 1st of all, where you know this has been a really welcome alarming of the, of the bell. Because this is something that weve been keeping a close eye on. Not just since december, when weve seen an uptick of attacks on hindu monday, are specifically in a bit of one region of california. But unfortunately, this is kind of a global trend of canada. Our neighbors to the north have seen 6 such attacks on temples. And what were seeing, at least if we look at the trends in canada, that they are becoming increasingly violence. The last one where 14 rounds were fired into the home of the president of one of the temples that had been vandalized. So you know what our hope is from the department of justice is that they pay close attention to this in our interactions with local Law Enforcement. I think one of the things that we face is that when the average american Law Enforcement personnel sees this, they see maybe, you know, one Indian Community and another in between it. And they dont see necessarily the difference that there are religious differences between these 2. They may not have the context of the color Style Movement and the violence that it brought on. Not only in india, but also in canada, where there was the terrorist attack with the bombing of the air india flight, which saw a 182 passengers. And crew all killed. So this is to us a kind of message from the top leadership to say that this issue needs to be taken seriously. And thats what our hope is that they will do. Now, what are the cases of hate crimes against the american hindus that you see and why do you think they are as being properly investigated as well . You know, we make up a micro minority in this country. We make up less than 2 percent of the population and were distributed, meaning that there are certainly some areas where there might be high concentrations of him to americans. But on the whole, were kind of spread out across the entire country. And as you know, the United States of america is a very large country. So theres that you know, reality. The 2nd is just, im familiarity with the tradition with our houses of worship, with our culture. So sometimes theres not a close connection of communication between Law Enforcement and the local community. So if and when an incident occurs, often times or community may not know where theyre supposed to go, sometimes Law Enforcement enters, but they dont know whether theyre welcome into the, the temples or what the, you know, culturally respectful way would be to engage with the community our message to our community has been build those bridges of communication with Law Enforcement prior to any crisis, so that in the time of crisis, it mix addressing those issues far more smooth. While we have to leave you here now hand do americans Foundation Co founder and executive director. So hodge pluck. Thank you so much for talking to us on this. Thank you. All right, thats the update this ill, ill be right back with more stories that top of the on the part or body program. Note we now post to show every single day, not weekly, but daily. And we hold no punches as we do so. So look for it. Trust bob. Number one, joe rogan, comes out and says what most americans are thinking. And were going to play it for you. Trust fund. Number 2, you want investigators released their long awaited report. 1 israels actions in gaza. Its both critical comprehensive truth. Ive never tre. How does the Us State Department react to this report that i just mentioned . Well, they call the author of the report. An anti semite surprise. Im like sanchez, im not. And this is a direct impact and the all right, so lets get going. Here is what the polls say. The polls say that most americans right now are sick and tired of us giving away their money to ukraine. And israel and most americans in particular seem especially incense about the horrors that seem to be coming out of gaza, which they watch on tv all the time. And on. Obviously, social media terrors that appear to be occurring with u. S. Compliance and exclusively with us weapons. You know and spat. Right. You know, its bad when the president of the United States gets a nickname that is attached to his name, genocide, joe genocide. Joe, it looks like its here to stay and will likely be a part of mr. Bidens legacy. But lately, its not just the pills that are turning hard on the issue of gaza. Its nose makers, both on the left them on the right. Candice. Oh, its to the popular uh, African American speaker, who is beloved by the ride for giving it to the lives when she criticizes blacks and hispanics in the United States. She is celebrated. Yea. But now she criticized is real. Not so much, no celebrations, no fireworks, no applause. Shes not alone. Joe rogan, arguably the most important voice in the world of podcast and non traditional news. Hes talking about candace owens, getting fired with some of his reaction. What did she say . I want to know what was, what she was fired for. Cause was a criticism of israel. Was it . I mean, did she show that Edward Snowden video that he put up on twitter that shows that maybe jerome bombing, those kids that are, or those men i should say on our people that were walking towards the rubble, they clearly werent causing any danger to anybody. Yeah, right bomb them, theyre always saying theyre only targeting, come us, and everybody else has a casualty. Well, if those guys are just on arm civilians and theyre walking alone, thats what they appear to be dressed in and you just blast them from the sky with robots. No one knows what to think now because you cant talk about that. If you cant say thats real, then youre saying that genocide is okay as long as were doing it. Joe rogan, interestingly enough, using the term jet aside, is a milestone for those who have argued that genocide is the proper term. I mean, this is the guy who people turn to in the United States and around the world in many ways who dont trust the news, but they trust him. So for him to say it is important. Now lets talk about the institutional side. An even bigger acceptance of that term came from a woman named francesca albany is. She is a special rapid tour. Interesting word. Essentially, it means investigator assigned by the United Nations to look into the attack on gaza and conclude whether what israel is doing is or is not on active genocide and here and its long, but i want to play it for you. Here is her conclusion, and i find that there are reasonable grounds to believe that that threshold indicating the commission of the crime of genocide against palestinians as a grouping guys as being met. Specifically is right. Lets go to meet the 3 acts of genocide we 30 presenting tent, causing seriously serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group. Deliberately inflicting on the Group Conditions of life calculated to, to bring about its physical destruction the whole or impart an imposing measure as intended to prevent birth within the group. The genocide in gaza is the most extreme stage of a long standing, subtler colonial process. So very sure of the 9 native palestinians for over 76 years. This process has oppressed about his team and tons of people in every way imaginable. Crushing their in the, you know, the animal right to self determination, demographically, economically, territorially, culturally and politically. Hes role as attempted to displace them, expropriate the land and other resources and ultimately replace them in his darkest hour. The International Community can not continue to ignore that. Its israels project to read palestine of palestinians in defense of International Law and the worlds failure to go to 0 to account what sri appears to lay out in a very meticulous report, much longer than the portion that you just heard. Is that what israel is doing does fit the definition of genocide. This is the United Nations right. She describes actions taken by the israelis meant to quote uh, destroy. Busy the palestinians, physically in the whole or in part was there her words. So she also makes the point for a historical standpoint suggesting that this has been taking place now for the better part of 76 years. And that the attack has been comprehensive and certainly look, look, lets go back to the words, uses territorial, economic, cultural demographic and political. Thats the way the palestinians have been dealt with for decades. Those are the things that are taken away from them. She describes. So the official you um report you just heard it is finally out. How will or how did or how would the us respond to Something Like this . That is what the world waited here. Knowing that the us normally use as the un. Remember when were going into iraq, afghanistan, we go to the u. N, we have him write a report that says yes, go and then we do it. And the, this country, our country use usually use as a us to legitimize actions and places like ukraine and a ron and then as well in cuba. So it wouldnt say in this case, okay, that report sounds pretty convincing. Given that finding, we will no longer continue to provide as real, with the support and the arms to conduct and said, quote, genocide. Or maybe it would take a more cautious approach, right, and say the us and as well, well come together to find a way to satisfy the reports concerns or but, or maybe theyll just say no, its all b. S. We disagree completely with the report. Its no good and were here, were going to explain make our case and explain why we disagree with the reports. Did they do any of those things . You know a, b, c, 123 . No, no. Did not. So what did the state department do right after that report came out, matt miller spokesperson for the state department, came out and said, this moment francesca albany is, shes gonna have tests of might we have lots for long standing i, for a long standing period of time a pose the mandate of this special rubber tour of which we believe is not productive. And when it comes to the individual who holds that position, i cant help but note um, history that i submitted comments that she has made. Theyve been reported it to me that i submitted comments and she has and comments she made in december that appeared to a justify the attacks of october 7th. So i think its important to take that into account and go through the whole thing out, cheese and that does sound like camp trustor cancelled. And some obviously though i did my due diligence, im a journalist. So upon hearing his words, i went and checked to see if indeed albany is did have a history of being an anti semitic. So i pulled the place where they have written this, the most times of israel, right. I looked at the newspaper of the times of israel and i read what they had written. Then heres basically what i found. While theyre headlines, sounds ominous when you look at it. Upon reading their report, what i mostly found was criticism of her use of the past of the term jewish lobby. Jewish lobby is what many people call a pack the lobby group, and political pack that uses money to influence leaders, media, and politicians in the United States. Thats not controversial. Thats what it is. Thats their mandate. Right now. Maybe theres a mistake that she made sure she had use the term israel lobby instead of jewish lobby. Albany is yourself a grace, and maybe she should have been more careful of how she used the term. But lets suppose that you use the term incorrectly. Does that make sense . I some, i really dont. Most is rarely politicians refer to israel as an exclusively jewish state. This whole thing gets so damn confusing, right . Who can save jewish . Who can say is, well, what is it is real one is a jewish. What, whats not confusing is how easily uncomfortably the Us State Department can dismiss an entire report filled with pleasant day and historical references with one simple word that they attached to the person who wrote the report. Just say anti semite. It is the ultimate cancellation, dirty word on that no doubt pays hand to a very important prejudice which most of us respect cant dislike somebody simply because of their religion because of their jewishness. That is anti semitism. But one that is also more often than not used simply as a very effective bludgeoning tool to prevent criticism and even to prevent contrasting points of view. To discuss this, im joined today by former pentagon official and friend of the show, michael maloof, as well as political commentator and Award Winning cartoonist. Ted rall. Michael, you are to depend of gone. If youve seen us use the United Nations when we needed them out, you were there. You were working there. Well, where we went when we went into iraq, for example. How is it that when we like, what do you and does on our behalf, theyre great. And there are reason for doing things, but when we disagree with them, theyre an anti semitic organization. Really, michael, as well, thanks for having me. Right. I, i, its unfortunate that, uh, that this is occurring in, increasingly it doesnt, uh, the United States used to control the un when it was in full control, the u. N. And what it does in what a did. Mm hm. They can get whatever res. Busy wanted today thats not the case, and were hearing another voices. This has been being called anti semitic, just because you oppose this really policy is like when, during the obama administration, if we didnt like obama was policies, we were all accused of being racist. And that term is still used with the, with anybody who criticized obamas policies. We werent going after him because of his race. Were going out because of his policies the same here. If youre, if youre against israel, your automatically as you somebody, well, im a symmetric, they can accuse me a bit into some edits and, and, and i oppose the genocide that is occurring today. Tim gassert and its got to be filtering over into the west bank and think that this genocide, not notion of israel, is going to be extending ultimately into a 11 on as a result of actions that are, thats just occurred to that. To ted rall is a put a commentator and Award Winning cartoon as d e studies. Geo politics is as well as anybody around here that we have an opportunity to talk to what, what do you make of this up . This firing off of the state department, calling this woman an anti semite. How did you set it up . Strike you a well ad hominem attacks. Always raised my suspicion that content theres a lot of the content is media and therefore you have to distract from it. I mean, for the sake of argument, logically, even if she were an anti semite, that still wouldnt address the concerns in the document. Now theres, as you say, rick, theres no evidence that she is. And its really truly discussing how the, the into that, that accusation just been thrown around so fast and loose against people without any evidence whatsoever. What we need is a few more libel suits, you know, really, truly. I mean, youre someone, its a us government, a spoke official spokesman, dared to call me, you know, to somebody. I guarantee you, id be on the phone with my live a lawyer right away. And there needs to be more of that. The reason that they do this is because it works out, the supporters of israel has been for, you know, a better part of 70 years accusing anyone who criticizes is really government policy or seller, colonialism on the west bank or got as an answer. Somebody did. Its a really effective cultural, i mean, because of that it pro cartoonist and call this. I have often try stuff before i draw or write something. Do i have about the middle east crisis . Do i really want to deal with this . Im not gonna know, could i lose work . Could i be weird to buy these bullies . And thats what it is either Online Police and this case, the televised bully and its discussing. At some point someone needs to stand up and say, you know, at long last said, you know, to decency yeah, im not tolerating. Listen, joe rogan comes out. Candace owens comes out, a battery of people are suddenly coming out and theyre saying something about this situation and theyre, theyre using the j word. I mean theyre using the genocide word. And its interesting because these are people who sway or carry influence over millions of miss as of people. And especially the people who dont watch regular news and even some who dont. Im going to take a quick break when we come back. I want to talk to you guys about you live here in the us. What you see are you feeling that thing is starting to get away from the government, especially from the bite and administration. Thats important. Were going to talk about that in just a little bit. You stay right there. We have lots to discuss when it comes to this situation and how its uh, someone cascading now. And well talk about that on the other side. The. Okay, welcome back. Im rick sanchez. So ive been thinking of myself just over the last uh week or so what i have seen in terms of the folks or the organizations where the institutions or suddenly coming out and saying, look, this things out and israels gotta be controlled. And this very much looks like a genocide to me, joe rogan, the president of turkey, who made his statement once again a couple days ago. And candace owens, uh, for mentioned, the United Nations, you know, in, in a, in a special report. So it seems to me that there seems to be a movement afoot working against what the United States directly is doing. I guess, michael, i go back to you. Do you see it . Do they see it over at the white house that and republican circles as well as both parties and, and how do you think theyre going to react to it if at all . I think theyre, i think theyre very concerned about it. And i think thats why you saw um schumer, hes the majority leader of the senate. Mm hm. The top democrat, jewish come up because he saw he sees the threat to the Democrat Party because of the ink because of the upcoming elections. Thats political. But its, but its reality on the ground and let me start. All right, lets let me stop you right there. You mentioned that, and i think thats a great point, michael, that im so glad you made it. But im going to push you on that a little bit. Maybe ted, you want to get in on this . Im hearing that from people. Oh, its a great country. Theyve never done anything wrong, and theyve always been fine until be became a long its all babies fault. So dont criticize israel just criticized b b. Is that what theyre doing and is that accurate . No, i think its due to the fact that theyre getting closer to the election, but theres a 5th street. This didnt happen in a vacuum. What happened on october . The 7th was awful. It was, it was very, very bad. It shouldnt have happened the fast 1200 people were killed. However, the response has been a total over reaction, the total overkill of more than 30000. 00. Now, people innocent people, women, and children, and this is a, this is what people are reacting to. We have, there are palestinians, there are errands today so, but we want nothing to do with the United States. You bomb us on the, on the one hand through giving this Material Support to the israel is on the other hand, you start parachuting food and we want nothing from the americans. This is what were hearing mean to us is very telling. Let me get, let me get started on this. I ted. But my question again, the idea that a top Congress Person stands up and says, im still 100 percent. Everything is real, has done and is doing, but we need to get rid of bb. Netanyahu is, is really the real culprit here. Is it all about the, or is there Something Else involved here that people dont or not discuss as well. Of course the, the president of the palestinians goes back at least to 1947 and the creation establishment of the state of israel by the United Nations. I mean, you know, the income looking for a fight, they reminding their own business, living in their homes. And then a foreign powers, including Great Britain in the United States and the u. N. Keeps basically gave away with what was not there. So can house to the land and in territory. Right. And so its been obviously, and they, they didnt do that. That wasnt, that wasnt baby. So its easy wasnt very limited for the job is right. And its been, its been a long time. And this has been obviously, you know, politicians are always trying to thread the needle and try to have things both ways. Its, and its the nature of the beast, and theyre trying to separate the state of israel as a concept to support from the government, which theyre characterizing as extreme as to the far right. And therefore kind of road. And it is true that they are far right, is extreme as that is true, but the pop and the policies go further. I mean the work and scholars at this time around as opposed to 2014, lets say, yeah, hes more a street than it was in the past. And i think that is true. But you, i just, i just like the reason, the reason, listen, i know that i just did some have argued that these being scape goat in here when in fact the problem is bigger than just b b. And i wonder if schumer is basically using b b at this particular moment to try and salvage the presidency of his friend and fellow democrat, joe biden. And then you know that theyre not getting an argument can be made. Let, let me move on. Theres another story i want to get your reaction to listen to this. Imagine if someone from the government showed up at your d. Busy or, and asked you about something that you posted on facebook. Would that be weird . Weird, right. Of course, if you are threatening to, you know, threatening the president or giving away plans to make a new gore announcing that you had tons of weapons in your home. And you hit your neighbor and you might be using it sometime very soon. It wouldnt make sense. But somebody say the f b, i might pay you a visit to ask you what was going on. But what of all you have is an opinion about a current event in the United States, say, whats going on and gaza, what tens of thousands of civilians are in your opinion being massacred. And you put that on facebook. Well, that is what happened to many people, including this woman, youre about to hear. Shes in oklahoma, she recorded the f, b i showing up on her door because they didnt like what she was posting about god. And so you said you were with the f b r and why wont you show me your credentials . I couldnt, i didnt really take a look at them. I said one second, ill be right back. Are you gonna show me your credentials or no . Yeah, we did already so and we identified ourselves. So what wed like to do, i didnt look at your credentials again. I didnt verify them. I told you to wait and i went inside. Thats correct. Cool. Wed like to do is just have a conversation with you about maybe would you be willing to talk to . No, i would not. I would like you to later talk on with my lawyer and then look a little scary to you. I mean, in the video we said 3 f, b i, agents on her doorstep as apparently they were as last confirmed. Theyre armed with screenshots, allegedly provided by facebook. Their claim is they just want to have a conversation with the woman has no idea which of the things that shes that has gotten on there. And it gets even more troubling when you consider the matter of the parent company. Your facebook has chosen remain silent on the matter. We do know that they do have a possibly a place where they share stuff with Law Enforcement under specific circumstances. All right, lets bring the guys back up to that. Let me, let me get. Can you get a started on this thing . Well, how do you react to what i just showed you . This is not american. You know, its an american of the 1st amendment protects our rights to express opinions, both popular and unpopular. And as you said, rick, im us, theres a credible threat of violence, or you may have or something, or either the human trafficking. Lets say you should be left alone, but you have the right to be unlisted in your home. And theres better ways to handle this. I mean, you know, they couldnt, by the way, but let me, let me just stop you for a minute. Let me just argument. You have a right to be wrong. You have a right to have a stupid opinion. You have a right to be an ignoramus. You have a right to be a drunk. You have a right to do whatever you want in the privacy of your home writing, whatever the heck you want to write about as long as youre not hurting someone. Or obviously maligning someone who cannot insure you for what you said about that. But the f b, i checking to see what you said at y maloof, i give you the last 45 seconds of the show. Well, the way there have been concerns and mounting concerns that the, that the federal government, particularly the f b i has tried to coerce and co and, and, and control what is being shown on social media. They have just gone overboard in this, in this regard. Secondly, i, i do have some question about the, the procedures by these 3 individuals. Generally, if you ask to see the credentials again, they have no problem showing you their credentials. Yeah. But this, but you know, the site, they refused. And, and im just wondering if, uh, this was all, uh, you know, i cant rule out the possibility. No, no, no, yeah, i can do no. Yeah. Go ahead, finish your lot of the other hand. I do not know that they are trying to control. Uh, what is going on in this case, history of that. Yeah. Well, i will check on it to make sure it certainly looked like they are opposing or identifying themselves. Is that the, if it turns out as we, as we look into the story that we werent, we certainly will immediately report it. But in, in many ways its still troubling. Gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us today. And for sharing your points of view, before i go remind you of the mission, really what we call it. Its simple. The silo the world stop living a little box and stopped thinking its only your side the times. The truth truths dont live in boxes. Truth, youre everywhere. Im rick sanchez and ill be looking for you again right here. 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