Correction notice voluntarily by the permit holder. A lot of people sometimes architects put that down or someone just on their behalf. It could be double that, probably. Depends on the interior work thats being done, as well. So on the demolition, obviously, we spoke on that before, as well. If they end up exceeding the scope of demolition thats shown on the approved plans, or if they get into a situation where theyre potentially seeing inferior framing that is shown on the plans to remain, and it cant because its inferior, they should contact the department of building inspection, get an inspector out there, we will actually issue an inspection notice. The project would have to go back to planning, and that changes the democounts, and thats a process that we have in place for those types of projects. Were trying to get away from people saying oh, it was rotten. We just took it down and ask for forgiveness. Were actually calling people ahead of time and making sure they dont get into that situation. This sounds like they may, based on some of the comments that ive heard tonight with framing and touch with soil and contact with wood, thats never a good thing. So with that, id say its a good enough permit, as long as they go down the line and follow the process. Commissioner honda so joe, is there no excavation here . I dont know, to be honest. I didnt see the drawings, and commissioner honda and im satisfied that because theyve gone through the process here that the Building Department will follow through because we realize how important it is, especially when youre doing retaining walls, excavation, how important it is to make sure yeah. Its a vertical addition, so theres definitely structural work to be done, whether theyre being made to do a new foundation, i dont know that just yet. I can review the plans and get you a rebuttal on that. Commissioner honda you get a second swing on that, and you have 9 42. Clerk thank you. Is there any Public Comment on this item . Commissioner honda come on up. Good evening and welcome. Thank you. Im glad youre all able to retain your sense of human. My name is amy kyle. I filed a card. I live in between mr. Greeman in between the two houses he constructed, so i know a lot about impacts, not construction. And im going to speak to the flood issue because part of my back yard is the exposed bedrock, and part of my hill is really steep hill. Theres a cluster of houses at the corner, and the hill. And its so steep. Its so steep, they dont mow it. They just send the goats up. You just see the water moving on it all the time, so i have flooding issues. Before they fixed it, the reservoir leaked, and wed see a lot of water. But it kind of comes to the corner. Its a chute sort of down toward our corner, so the hill goes in both directions. The street that goes up past my house goes up the hill, and then gladys goes up this hill, and the water will kind of concentrate that way. So im concerned about that, and im concerned about this project because we keep seeing drawings that maybe arent quite showing everything, you know . This has sort of been happened before, and we raised this issue earlier, and oh, no, thats not a thing. I think it is a thing, and you only have to look at the project to be worried about the condition of that foundation. So, you know, the prior hearing doesnt really make me feel too much better about how everything will be taken care of by the system. Will it . I dont know. I think theres a lot of peril with this project because everythings a zero lot line. This thing is already occupying fully whats supposed to be the set back, and were just hoping thisll get figured out later. You know, im pretty doubtful that thats going to happen, so i hope you take the closest possible look here, you know, and give us some assurance that this isnt going to cause our houses ultimately to fall down if water leaks through or, you know, all these walls that are really not i mean, you can look at it and see it. Theyre not well constructed now or maybe not all going to be replaced or whatever. So im not an engineer, im not an expert, but i am concerned about the way this has all come forward and what the impacts are going to be and whether were going to be back here in five years saying this is a colossal mess that no one can fix. Commissioner honda thank you. Clerk thank you. Is there any other Public Comment . Yes, i have one. Commissioner honda come on up. The price is right. Ill be short and sweet. Commissioner honda its okay. I live next to david, one door up. My issue is about the reservoir because i have problems in my garage with the reservoir. I have a river running through, and im very concerned about my property. I just wish if hes going to build, that they really look into that because im just two doors up. And my second concern is the way he wants to build, i have a living room window. Hell look right in on me, so im concerned with privacy. Im 75 years old, and i live my myself, so think did suggest things for him to make the building a little different, that everyone would be happy, and he refused to do that. And so, you know, those are my concerns as a resident on gladys street. Thats it. Commissioner honda thank you very much. Clerk maam . Maam . Will you please fill out a speaker card . Thank you. Commissioner honda were requesting your auto graph. Clerk is there any other Public Comment on this matter . We just need your name so it reflects accurately in our minutes. Is there any other Public Comment . Okay. Well move on to rebuttal, and well hear from mr. Greeman first. Well, i can see where everyones coming. They keep telling me theyre going to catch it, 16, 16 d. B. I. Theyre going to catch it if the diagrams were accurate, but theyre not. If someone had said can we have this on the screen, please. If that was listed as being a demo, that wouldnt have gone through 1660. Thats a demo, too because its up against soil. Had they accurately depicted, and they should have known an architect whos been working in this city for two decades would know that wood up against soil isnt going to fly. I dont want to use the word lie i guess i just did, but i think its really deceptive to send a plan in with wood up against soil on concrete thats been observed to be repaired and capped in a 1941 building, to add a full load on a floor with a wraparound deck with a life human load and claim to 1660 thats going to remain. My biggest fear is they go in there, they discover the conditions, and its red tagged during the construction. I live two buildings up from the applicant. I was broken into five times. Insurance is more when youre in construction. Im terrified that youre going to go discover sure enough that it is in fact a demo, because it is. There is no way to support those floors while cutting away 5 feet of floor to put up that wall. When you do put up the wall, i really, really hope you do what your engineer said. A 12inch drain, a stem wall thats ten, 12, 18 feet has to be 12 inches thick with rebar. Must contain a footer thats 18 inches thick. The rebar must extend 12 inches out to connect with the rebar on your rat pad. Its not true theyre only doing certain facade differences. Thats a demo, too, on their diagram, so all this is wrecked. This is a demo, period. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Commissioner honda thank you. Clerk we will now hear from the attorney for mr. Donofrio. Good evening, commissioners. Thank you very much for your patience on what im sure has been a long evening for you. We have an incorrect scope of demolition depicted and an incorrect story count, even an incorrect cost of what this story is going to cost. Most significantly, the concern is that the removal of the eastern wall, which as weve heard from mr. Duffy if its wood against soil could create problems. The removal of that wall raises significant demolition and float stability issues. And yes, these are issues that we have raised in other forums because of the concern about this uphill reservoir, the impact on neighboring properties. And what we were told by planning at the board of supervisors was that, due to the onsite slope, the project is subject to heightened review by d. B. I. s structural advisory committee. Yet now we are hearing from mr. Sanchez that planning didnt guarantee us that were going to go to structural advisory committee. Secondly, a geotechnical report would be required before a Building Permit was issued, yet we havent seen any further geotechnical reports, so these are some real concerns about what has been analyzed for this project, and thats why were asking for the permit to be revoked. However, if the board is not minded to revoke the permit, were ask that it be referred to d. B. I. Structural advisory committee, and if they make a determination regarding the story count, the slope stability issue or the scope of demolition, it should then be referred back to planning. Thank you very much for your time. Commissioner honda thank you. Clerk thank you. We will now hear from the permit holder. You have six minutes. I guess the only thing i want to respond to is the quote from the planner was, i think, an environmental planner who was speaking about his thought about what potentially might be required at d. B. I. Its not a d. B. I. Representative, and it doesnt conflict with what were saying here today, which is that d. B. I. Will require everything to make sure it complies with safety requirements. I think that everything, Building Permits, site permits is used interchangeably, but theyre Different Things if youre filing a full Building Permit versus a site permit with a future agenda. So ill stop there, and the team is here to answer any questions. Commissioner honda thank you. Clerk thank you. Well now hear from the planning department. Commissioner honda come on, move it along. This is the last case. Get it going, skippy. Dont rush me. Scott sanchez, planning department. Whats shown on the plans is not a demolition. The appellant had highlighted something on the plans that he had stated was a demolition. There were separate hashed lines that depict parking space, but thats not shown being demolished on the plans. Anything thats below grade does not count towards section 317 calculations, so even if all those retaining walls need to be replaced, that doesnt count toward 317. I think this board has heard these issues before, and people will come up and claim its a demolition. Commissioner honda first time. If anybody wants to be out in front of that, its the sponsor usually after the department has reviewed conditions generally not very favorably in several cases going back to what was there before or often wanting to go back to what was there when the building was first built. So it was quite a serious matter. And maybe the project sponsor wants to address some of their thoughts and methodology in greater detail, but you know whats shown on the plans as shown to not be a demolition because mr. Buskovic notes, we have a process for this. And we do have a process for this. If there are changes to be made, theres a process for that. If work is done without a permit out in the field, i think that this project will be very well monitored by the neighbors and if there is demolition or if even this is a demolition beyond what was approved, therell probably be complaints about it, and therell be inspections, investigations. Im sure therell be a close eye on it, and if issues are found that it is a demolition, itll go back to the Planning Commission and require a conditional use authorization, and thatll be the process. Commissioner honda thank you. Commissioner tanner one question around the hydrology issues and drainage issues, i imagine there are requirements that properties deal with drain age issues that properties deal with drain age issues that are not on their property . Thats a d. B. I. Issue. Clerk okay. We will now hear from d. B. I. Joe duffy, d. B. I. Asking d. B. I. To do a s. A. C. Review, if it falls under that type of project, our process would catch that, which is good. I cant tell you people what to do, but a s. A. C. Review commissioner honda attorneys do it all the time. Well, when its not required, its a little unfair on a permit holder. I would imagine its just trying to put a team together. If it does fall under any category, whether its s. A. C. , when its slope stablity, when you put an address in our section, you click on restrictions, itll show you restrictions and slope stablity, and no doubt what mr. Sanchez said, theres a lot of eyes on this project. I doubt it will be missed. You had a question. Commissioner tanner public drain age, during public testimony time, some folks are concerned with drain age in the area which would be seem to be the permit holders issue other than the fact that they might suffer from it, as well. Can you speak to how we address drain age from one property to the other or what would be required . Yes. Its a very good question. Basically, everyones responsible for their own drainage. As mr. Sanchez said, you cant drain on somebodys property. Unfortunately, its going to drain downhill. There are occasions in this project, for example, if theres drainage, theyre going to have to take care of it, the retaining wall, anything like that, theyre going to have to take care of it. Water cant run from their property on to somebodys property. There may be something just because of the area, and for the lady that got up and said shes got water coming through her garage, shes got a water cable table or something, i would imagine. Theres ways she can address that. It may be coming from a neighbor, and she can file a complaint if she thinks there is. If she has clear indication that water it coming over a Property Line from somebody elses property. Commissioner tanner sounds like it may be coming from p. U. C. Property to other peoples property, so that may be the issue. Clerk thank you. Commissioners, this matters submitted. Commissioner tanner i have not heard any testimony that would lead me to believe this permit was not properly issued. I would move to deny the appeal. Commissioner honda just because i was smiling and making jokes does not mean that im not taking this as a serious matter. This particular project has undergone quite a bit of process and just by the amount of dollars per hour in this room, i think there is going to be a significant amount of eyes watching this project alongside with the departments which whether we like or dont like, we have to have faith in our city departments and their abilities to make things happen, and so i would concur with my fellow commissioner. Vice president lazarus as would i, im content to let the normal processes take their place because i havent heard anywhere here tonight that would encourage me to revoke the site permit. Commissioner tanner and just to the woman, you gave testimony just wondering how things would be caught in light of the previous cases, 20year ongoing permit. I think thats very much on the outside and the outlier of our permit system. What will happen, it will be graded and more studies, as mr. Duffy said, related to the project. When we say well catch things, its not that we hope it, it goes through a much more scrutinous review. Thats why we have faith in it and most of the time, it does work. Clerk okay. So we have a motion from commissioner tanner to deny the appeal and uphold the permit on the basis that it was properly issued. On that motion [roll call] clerk okay. So that motion carries, 30, and this adjourns the meeting. [gavel]. Clerk thank you. I pledge allegiance to the ff america and to the republic for, under god, indivisible, with li. This is a reminder to silenc. Fire Commission Regular meetinge time is 5 03. Item 1, roll call. [roll call] item 2, general Public Comment. S the commission for up to three e commissions jurisdiction and ns shall address their remarks to d not to individual commissioners. Commissioners are not to enter a speaker. The lack of a responser Department Personnel does not nt with or support of statements m. If theres any member of thec that wishes to make public comm, please approach the podium. Is there any member of the public that wishes to give Public Comment at this time . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Madame secretary. Item 4, im sorry, item 3, approval of the minutes. Discussion and possible action to approve the Meeting Minutes of october 9, 2019. Thank you very much. Is thery Public Comment at this time on m 3, approval of the minutes. Plee approach the podium. If not, puc comment is closed. Commissioner. I move to approve, mr. Presi. Second. So moved by commissioner cleveland, seconded by vice pret covington. Call for the questiol in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you very much. Madame secretary. Item 4, certificate of appreciation presentation. San Francisco Fire Department to prt certificate of appreciation to o Medardo Rosso for donating timeo teach spanish to San Francisco e department to enable our First Responders to continue to carryt the departments mission of serg all san franciscans and Waldorf School for donating classroom se to that members of the sffd cann spanish, thereby enabling our ft responders to continue to carryt the departments mission of serg all san franciscans. Thank you president , Vice President and commissioners. Chf department nicholson. If i coule dino, could you come up to the m for us . Is there a someone frome Waldorf School . A representativ . Just come on up to the podium. T want to say thank you so much. E appreciate your time, we apprece your space. And in helping us be better at our jobs and be able o serve everyone in this city. Ano im going to come down there ane you certificates of appreciatioo both of you. And if either of yu would like to speak, we can do , and if we want to take a pictur, well do that. So again, thank u very much. [applause] thank you so much. Whats your name . Andrea. Pleasure to meet you. [off m] thank you for having us herei wanted to thank los bombeross r sponsoring me. I wanted to thany colleagues at waldorf where we h spanish, they gave us a classror the summer. I would like to thak ingleside for offering us spaceo teach our classes. I would likeo thank lieutenant baxter for beie champion for this program. We ma few years ago and he was tryingo accomplish the same goal. I rano him, and we just sort of he d me make this happen. Hes been instrumental in this whole proc. There are already some really gt language tools that first respos use when connecting with the community. One of which is there hand held devices you can plug o arabic or canno cantonese, there interpreters, there are trainino this is an additional that First Responders have in their tool bo be able to give a one on one dit assessment. I think its importt that have that personal connectn interesting number here is that 13 percent of households in San Francisco are nonenglish speakt is a fairly high number. 21 perf those are spanish only. So i wod like to again just really thankf these First Responders, firefig, cops, emts, emergency personnely have volunteered their time to e and learn with me. This is not something that they were obligeo do. This is something that they thought was necessary in order o their jobs better. They came toi wanted to talk a little bit aboe progress of the students. I wano mention that beyond just learnig simple phrases, theyve learnedo actually engage and conjugate vs and have meaningful conversatioh people they are finding on a rer basis in general. The last poini want to make is that this realls have a positive kind of bearinge way that we are perceived by the community, by we,i mean you. K it improved community relationsn First Responders are making a concerted effort to reach out te that they serve by learning a le which as an adult is really haro do. So i really commend everyone thats involved in this processs there anything that you would lo say . She is my colleague. She ao works with me on this program. Its great to have meaningful collaboration between school and between the city and also that e continue to build bridges not oy with each other but all the memf the community. Can we do a photo . Sure, yeah. Why not . [applause] come on up here. Sure. [off mic] thank you. [off mic] thank you so much. Really gro meet you. Great job. Thank you o much. Commissioners are going t thank you. A pleasure. So i just stand here . Absolutely. Mr. Rosso . Yes, sir. First of all as an order of business im going to ask for pc comment and then the commissions will comment as well. Is there y members of the public that wisho give comment on this item . Seeig none, Public Comment is closed. Commissioners. Commissioner cle. Thank you, mr. President. Ank you for being here and thank yor what you are doing. When i becaa commissioner on the fire commis, one of the things that i thoughs super important was the people e bring into our department be multilingual, that we have as my languages spoken in the departms are represented on our streets. D having this program, you know, r people who are already in the department, already on the stres working every day is so criticay important. So i just wanted to y muchas gracias. [speaking spanish] we appreciate the work you ae doing to help our department bee culturally relevant and competen the street. Mr. Baxter has donea great job getting the word out t Fire Prevention and its been ah of fresh air to have that kind f exposure to the city. So thank d keep up the good work. [speaking spanish]. Thank you very much. Very, vy nice of you to do this. And the Waldorf School, when i was on te board of the foundation, the waf school was at fort mason, and ts kind of involvement is very mucn line with the waldorf philosopho im not surprised that the class were held at the Waldorf Schools very, very good to see this collaboration. And of course i o everything that my fellow commir cleveland just said. For a whili toyed with the idea of going toe classes, because i but, you , we do fight fires. Thank goodner the city that we dont fight fi. Its such a wonderful thing to e people in their off time go to something that can help the city even more. It really points to w giving the members of our depart are. And its very nice to see u highlighted. So thank you. Thank you very much, vice prt covington. Commissioner hardema. Yes. Since you are not offici can call you by your first namek you for what you do. Great wordf wisdom. I think you make a few s on the side if you can find a rn orthodox. Russian orthodox priest. Sure. Very kind of you to do. Terrific. I didnt know it was n happening. So thats terrific. E should probably. Spread the word. Not only to find somebody cly that would do it in chinese, nou particularly but thats a greatg you are doing. Absolutely. If i can also just reiteraten our thanks to you. And i also wo give a shoutout to captain jackt from ingleside pd who also gaves space. To thank you very much, captain. We appreciate you. [applause] thank you very much. I also d to echo some comments. This is f the more beautiful, exciting, hy occasions being a commissioner h this department. Its not unusu, because the department and cityd county with its citizens and its public, we have also long strivo have relationships. Its not vey often these kind of relationshis happen with this kind of activi. Part of this longevity that i hs part of the consent agreement at of that was representation of de members of our community in thee department. Equally in terms of, with the percentage of members r public that dont speak englishs their first language, ive leard over the years that if you are n trouble or need some help, its reassuring when you can hear a firefighter or fire woman or pac or person of our department como you and have some language famif i, just to kind of engage and fl some comfort zone. Im quite prf this whole program. I appreciate lieutenant baxter, thank you soh for the Police Department and te support that you have within thn terms of the remarks by vice prt covington, i too was thinking ae point of showing up for some clm activities, only because for so, and i get so tired of saying tht i want to learn spanish as welly because our members of our comm, everywhere i go, members of the spanishspeaking. So for me to e to engage a little bit beyond, u know, [speaking spanish] sometho have some relationship, its jut really important. And i am veryy that waldorf is part of this as. Just thank you so much for your dedication and for this work. Ad things will occur from this. Ank you for the start of that. I appreciate it. [applause] any comments . No, just thank you to all ofu and thanks to the fire departmed Police Department for working tr to make this kind of happen. Thank you very much. Thank you. Gracias. Such an honor to be here on f of waldorf. Thank you. Thank you very much. Madame secretary. Item 5, chief of departments report. Report from chief of Department Jeanine Nicholson on current issues, activities and s within the Department SinceFire Commission meeting on october 99 including budget, academies, spl events, communication and outreo other Government Agencies and te public. Thank you very much, madame secretary. Good evening, chief nicholson. Good evening again. Thank you president nakajo, Vice President covington, commissioners, good e you here. Ill start off with or academy. I know chief velo is gg his report, hell give you more detail. But we did start the mes of station 49 in our Suppression Academy this week. So we are gog full bore now. And you will get further information from chief. On the 11th, myself and severaly staff, including chief tom met h the San Francisco general hospil foundation. And we went through, Psych Emergency Services and tao them about how we work togetherd sort of what their capacity is w we can work better together. Ane talked also about all sorts of e that we bring that dont necessy need a hospital, an emergency rd sort of how can we collaborate t and do ems prevention. I know te already doing things at san frao general hospital. They have a ce folks at tree i cant imagine tt wor triage and they will divem because they dont necessarily o be in the er. So im looking fod to working with them in the fut, whether its community paramedir what have you. On the 15th i haa meeting with the doctor about Community Paramedicine and seeit we can do there as well as our y and procedures. On the 15th we o met with local 798 to discuss al sorts of issues. And ems was definitely one of the top ones. E followed that on the 21st with s Labor Management meeting. And we collaborating on all sorts of ts ems related. And its a good, productive relationship. I alsot to a Community Health needs asst breakfast the other day with chf tong and heard from dph and somr folks and met with afterwards w. Bennett who is the director of interdivisional opportunities. E are really looking for ways to collaborate, whether with dph or hospitals, in terms of what we o to impact not just call volume t peoples lives on the street. It to on the 16th, mayor breed andh attended the welcome kickoff Foe International association of firefighters human relations coe conference. We both spoke that morning. We went we had the t shakeout at Rosa Parks School ad thank you for attending, Vice President covington. And then te preed events on the 17th. Thanko president nakajo and vice presit covington for attending the piet that was held up in marina greet was a treat to have jerry shannn there who is a retired firefigho was really made a huge impach his work during and after loma. On the 19th we had the 30year t drill anniversary. As we know, t came out of the loma prieta earthquake. It was founded afte, because they wanted to do somet. We had a meeting with the strest yesterday. Myself and chief veld our chief of health and safety,f parks. We met with them. And wee discussing how to streamline communications from within and s as well as data that we want tho collect in terms of seeing how y people were actually working wid sort of what our resources looke in relation to that. Tomorrow ie ann Rush Foundation burn relay. T will be coming to the division f training at 19th and folsom arod 4 45 tomorrow afternoon, you arl invited. The black Firefighters Association will be cooking dinr everyone. This is the peninsula. So they started down the penins. Im not sure if it was at menlok but theyve gone through there d their last journey is tomorrow o us. And if you dont know, ann h was a child who was severely bun 1970 and died from a backyard be accident. And we had many of our members involved with the alyssn Rush Foundation. We are mother d it as a way to educate folks abt burns, stop drop and roll came f that. And they also assist peopo have folks who have family membs that are burned. We have a meetg with the controller this week tk about, again, ems and sort of ce the dashboard that weve been u. Weve been very reliant on juste going to expand that dashboard o include all sorts of things froe beginning to the end of the calk at the system from a really holc perspective. And yesterday i weo station 49 and did a meet and gt with probably 20, 25 members. Is very wellreceived. Chief tong d chief were there. We are havinga conversation and really openinge door for more of that and collaboration and it was prettyl received. And i believe that cos my report. Thank you very much chief nicholson. At this particular te will call for Public Comment onf nicholsons report. Is there any member of the public that wisheo give Public Comment . Seeing non, Public Comment is closed. At the commissioners, any questions fof nicholson . If not, then we will proceed to move onto the reportm the administration, deputy chiee velo. Thank you, mr. President. Jue question. You mentioned that yoe having conversations with local8 regarding ems and some of the initiatives that you are going e putting together. Can you elaboe without divulging any confidenc, of course, can you elaborate wht these might be with 798 . Sure. We are working with th, looking at the entire system anw it impacts theyre very concernh the members as i am as well, bum also concerned in being able toy out our mission effectively. Ane of that does making sure our mes are scared away. So we are lookt the entire system from time of l that comes into dispatch, so wee looking at that, to response tio onscene time, to time it takeso get to the hospital. We know trc is getting worse. So we are usil these sorts of data and statisto really drill down on our case is of what our resource ask will bd so its been helpful collaborat. Im hearing what they are hearim their members. Of course i am gg out, we are going out to the sts and talking to folks. But we rey want to figure out how we can ry make sure we have a resilient workforce at station 49. Do you see this [off mic] no. If we determine that we actually do need more resourcest would be an ask in the budget. E just want to we want to dialn on all the data, all the detailo if and when we do go to ask, wee solid and we know exactly [off mic] exactly, yeah. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, commissr cleveland and secretary for thed 527. Commissioner veronese has d us. Are there any other commentr questions other than that . Did l chief velo already . No, we did not. Report from administration, y chief jose velo on the administe divisions, fleet and facility ss and updates, finance, support services, and training within te department. Thank you very much, madame secretary. And good evening pre, Vice President , commissioners. [speaking spanish] there we go. This is my report for the mof october. Like ive done in the t few meetings, i have a comprehee report for you. Im going to bry go over some of the highlights e report. And im happy to answery questions at the end. So some oe personal projects im working om continuing to attend meetings tt the feedback to give the administrations view and visior the work thats going on. Aattea workgroup that came up with goo, positive ideas that we are goino dial down a little more. The war supply committee. Every time i n opportunity i attend the meetini attended this mondays very pose meeting with 798 on health chece have a really good ideas of whae hurdles were in the past and hoe are going to move forward with. We are going to collect informan from different parts that we ne. In regards to the contract partt so we now have a clear path of e we are going with this. Well ha contract with the vendors that e this. At the start of the meetie are saying we want the best forr members and make sure we get thk in place. So we agree that is te mission and vision. So it was ry good to have that meeting. Contg to review our plan. And we are focusing a lot on management tr. We are bringing up more traininr our members, management trainin, Operations Training that we are bringing along to make sure thae have a good upper level, midmanagement training for our members so they can succeed in e endeavors if they come into the position of management. So we ae working on that a lot. We have n the works. Ill update you moren we have more con treat programsn place concrete programs in p. Like the chief says, its a Good Opportunity to get firsthand information from the folks in to see what they experience. I wily its very positive feedback fros going to the stations and gettit feedback. And some things they e know and we take care of them ae solve them quickly. Academying academies are starting. Some ofu attended the graduation of the s and some of you were at the cer. The mayor was gracious enough to appear and give a speech. It way nice. We also had a fleet week. D opportunity to train some marind folks from the navy and it was enlightening to find out in the initial meeting, some of those s that back in 2011 with this tra, they were able to use it at they earthquake when they rpo